[Q] Restoring: Rom Manager vs. Clockworkmod Recovery - HTC Inspire 4G

I just recently purchased rom manager premium and havent been backing up and restoring as often as I am now as I'm trying CM7 Nightlies almost daily. I havent had to restore until today as I didnt like the dl/ul speed I was getting with the latest cm7. The last backup I did as my latest ones has been when I updated cm7 and rom manager asked if I wanted to make a backup before installing the latest cm7 and I would choose yes. When I restored today I noticed it didnt remember all my settings, some apps were missing, I had to sign in to my google account again, and I had to restore some system settings/contacts/bookmarks etc etc..I almost doubted I had restored to my previous backup but the build.prop still had the changes I had made and my dl/ul speed was good.
I guess my question is, should I be making my backups directly with clockworkmod to avoid this. The reason I ask is when I've used clockworkmod to make backups and restore in the past it would put back the rom with all my apps/settings exactly the way I left without me having to set everything back up again. Not sure what I'm missing, or has something changed with backups using either of these tools? Maybe I'm just doing it wrong?

nandroid backups aren't always perfect. I've run into issues from backing up both ways. for instance one time I restored a backup and my statusbar was completely missing. It may be placebo effect but I personally have run into less issues backing up and restoring from cwm. just my .02 cents

Dude what gives!? I'm baffled - I swore I posted on this thread - twice!? I'm Losing It Guys...
What I thought I wrote was I had noticed that too and went to test it out. It got me curious. Well what I realized when I went to ROM manager to make a backup was that though we name it from there, all the magic happens in recovery. I am gonna go out on a limb and say that it wouldn't matter which you use, as they are the same. ROM Manager essentially boots into recovery. And I'm not positive but doesn't it restart into recovery? And rebooting into recovery powers you off, then into recovery - where you have to work over to it, but all in all - It's actually only recovery that creates the backup. The one difference is I notice every now and then Thru Rom manager my phone just reboots. So when I put it down and let it do its thing, I've learned to be sure the backup was created.
I came back to see.if there was any more insight into this.... And my posts were gone? Am I trippin????
Edit: yeah I checked the time of OP and I'm positive I did. Even came back and the second post I talked about the recovery doing all the work..... Wild ....

Yes you are. It's time to take another break.

Wolf_2 said:
Yes you are. It's time to take another break.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LMAO! Wolf - I just don't know. I mean I edited the first post even. It is that time though - and I found out were moving this weekend. So wifey has me a big ole to do list..... Crazy cooter busted me today. Smart pants got online herself, made an account - boom. This user is currently viewing .......
But baby, when I start my internet my home page is XDA! So if its not off, of course it shows me....
Edit: My phone has literally been buggin. wondering if its Rom related, or if I might need to unroot. And start over. Heard it helps. Ok - back to Rom manager

yeah dyliho is right either way u look at it recovery is backing it up. my train of thought it why not go straight to recovery and avoid the middleman (rom manager) and u would think there would be less problems. like I said could be pure coincedince but I have run into less issues just doing it from recovery
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA Premium App

Im not sure at this point but I'm definitely backing up the long way into recovery.

I like to give them names like bob or sue. You can't do that from the disco. LOL.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using the power of the dark side.

Related

What are the chances I can recover my contacts?

I rooted my captivate, backed up everything (I thought) I was supposed to, and then downloaded and flashed over to Cognition. It all worked pretty flawlessly, I customized everything the way i wanted on my home screens and restored all my apps... and then I realized all my phone numbers were gone.
I've tried every strategy I can find for recovering them except flashing back to my backup, which I remember reading might work. I'm not sure that will work either, and I don't want to go through the hassle of undoing all my work if it's unlikely to save all my contact info anyhow.
So I guess I'm hoping for some kind of miracle here... is there any way to recover these that I may not have tried? I thought titanium backup would preserve them, or at the very least I thought syncing my google account would but neither seems to have worked - i've scoured the backup files I made but can't see which of them might contain that information, if any.
Sorry for the lengthy post - just want to cover all my bases to save time for responders. I apologize for asking an all-too-often asked question also, but nothing I've searched and tried seems to work for me.
Any help out there? Thanks.
If you still have the stock contacts app and you synced with AT&T before, try and resync it. As a general rule, I always export my contacts to my sd before doing anything.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Nitroburner77 said:
If you still have the stock contacts app and you synced with AT&T before, try and resync it. As a general rule, I always export my contacts to my sd before doing anything.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hey thanks for the response. i did not sync with AT&T, only google. But that didn't actually work I found out too late.
If I have to re-build my entire contact list then so be it, but if there's anyway you think flashing back to my old setup might restore them (or i could extract that data and import it into my current setup) - I'd much rather do that.
I just don't wanna flash if it's not likely to work.
What app did you back up your system with?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Always, always, always, copy all your contacts to your SIM before you do anything like this to your phone. You might lose the formatting, but you will always have them.
insaneturbo13 said:
What app did you back up your system with?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I used clockwork recovery after rooting. then i installed titanium backup and thought i made a backup of everything on my phone - but when i restored them after flashing cognition, the contacts didn't come along.
I am not sure if that's where my mistake was or not. I thought I had them backed up with my google account if nothing else, but that didn't take either. (I just got the phone about a week ago, hadn't messed around with much on it before i started playing right away)
But regardless, do you think there's anyway I might be able to recover them?
craftsy21 said:
But regardless, do you think there's anyway I might be able to recover them?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
there is a slim chance that if you flash back to stock 2.1 and restore your titanium backup that your contacts would be there, my theory is that the differences in 2.1 contacts storage and 2.2 contacts are in a place that tb wont restore them to there correct places. someone please correct me if im wrong...
miztaken1312 said:
Always, always, always, copy all your contacts to your SIM before you do anything like this to your phone. You might lose the formatting, but you will always have them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, I learned my lesson now. I thought I was following the procedures given all the reading I had done before starting, but I guess I overlooked this part or it wasn't specifically harped on enough. If only I had known I could be so happy right now with this phone.
insaneturbo13 said:
there is a slim chance that if you flash back to stock 2.1 and restore your titanium backup that your contacts would be there, my theory is that the differences in 2.1 contacts storage and 2.2 contacts are in a place that tb wont restore them to there correct places. someone please correct me if im wrong...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it makes a difference in your thought process, I actually installed the eclair version of cognition. The top selection on the right hand side of the ponack.net page
Although maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.... as I said, I just got my first android phone a week ago, I've done a lot of reading the last week and could very easily be confused here on something simple.
if you flashed the eclair version then that voids my theory.
insaneturbo13 said:
if you flashed the eclair version then that voids my theory.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well at least that takes care of one thing. Still not sure if I should try flashing back.
I guess I don't need most of those people's numbers any longer....
craftsy21 said:
Well at least that takes care of one thing. Still not sure if I should try flashing back.
I guess I don't need most of those people's numbers any longer....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea this is the perfect time to clean out some of those old contacts lol

Sudden issues with my phone

I've had this phone since the day it released and generally had no problems with it. But a couple months ago, I started having issues with the home screen loading the icons up every time I went to home. Random reboots for no reason, too. I read that it seemed to be a common issues for the phone, so I thought I'd wait for Gingerbread. But today the phone wasn't begin responsive when I tried to text, so I tried rebooting and now it's stuck on the endless reboot. It seems the only way to stop this is to get it to factory reset itself, but I'm hoping I don't have to do that because the phone did a factory reset by itself a month ago and I don't want to deal with starting over again. Is there another trick to it?
Maybe I'm better off getting it replaced. Are the newer models free of all these glitches or is it all still more or less a crapshoot with the problems I've had, screen bleeding, ect?
Just so it's out there, I rooted my phone with SuperOneClick, but I didn't flash or install any roms.
yea i would sumtimes u just get a bad phone when u flash it!! but i'd try another rom and see what that does!!!
But I never flashed it to begin with. It this happened 6 moths after already having the phone.
But if I can fix it by flashing it, maybe I'll try that. I've been wanting to try that cyanogenmod since it's lookign better than my stock froyo.
Yea I would flash it b4 tryin a new1...n if that doesn't wrk then u no what to do
Sent from my HTC VISION using xda premium
If I flash it, is my phone going to reset itself anyway? Totally new to this.
yup thats y i always flash lol
If you have Clockworkmod Recovery try to just clear the Dalvik Cache. Reboot loops are usually Dalvik Cache issues. The first boot after clearing the cache can take around 5 minutes so be patient.
I went ahead and factory reset it, since I have never flashed it or have any of those apps. If I decide to look into installing Cyanogenmon on my phone, where should I start reading to get all the information to learn how to do it? I've rooted my phone, but that's it. I've stuck to pretty much what was on the phone.
C16MkII said:
I went ahead and factory reset it, since I have never flashed it or have any of those apps. If I decide to look into installing Cyanogenmon on my phone, where should I start reading to get all the information to learn how to do it? I've rooted my phone, but that's it. I've stuck to pretty much what was on the phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you rooted it, that means you installed Clockworkmod Recovery. To install CM7 you download the zip package, go into recovery, do a factory reset and wipe the dalvik cache, format the system and flash the zip you got from CM.
I rooted it in Superoneclick though, I don't know if I have Clockworkmod recorvery, unless it's not supposed to show up in the app tray like Superuser does.
Isn't there a way to backup my current state on my phone so I keep all my settings in place? I'll probably get into this tomorrow after work.
Check out tgagunmans nvflash method to get cwm 5.0.2.0 on your phone in dev section.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium
Alright, now it's really ****ing up and pissing me off. I haven't done anything new to it. I was browsing the Market today and now I see that the home button doesn't work at all, I can't snap any pictures, there's no screen lock screen, I can't even change it to airplane mode when holding power, it only gives me the off option. What happened to this thing?
C16MkII said:
Alright, now it's really ****ing up and pissing me off. I haven't done anything new to it. I was browsing the Market today and now I see that the home button doesn't work at all, I can't snap any pictures, there's no screen lock screen, I can't even change it to airplane mode when holding power, it only gives me the off option. What happened to this thing?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you loaded a lot of apps that autorun when you turn on the phone? Many do and you could be unaware of that. If too many apps are running, or a badly programmed app is running, it can cause issues such as this with your phone.
Also, it sounds like you are still on Froyo with the old baseband. You might want to consider factory resetting it again and running the LG Updater to get GB and the new baseband. Then use the One Click Flasher to install Clockwordmod so you can do backups (basically snapshots of the current state of your device) and then you can play around with alternate roms.
if that doesn't fix it then your device is defective. If you have a warranty you might just want to get a swap going on it.
Yeah, I'm still stuck on Froyo. Is the LG Updater working now? Last I read, it was bricking phones. If it works now, I'm guessing my plan should be:
Factory reset
Use LG Updater
Use One Click Flasher to Install Clockworkmod
Install a rom (Cyanogenmod)
Alot of this terminology is totally new to me, so I'm totally lost reading these tutorials that seem to rely on knowing what these terms mean.
Anyway, would be nice to get rid of all these errors. I can't even install anything from the marketplace anymore, I get a force close.
Alright, tooling around on Cyanogenmod 7 now. I don't like that it doesn't have the LG camera or Swype, so I switched to Weapon G2X. Liking it. Any other recommendations?
Weapon G2x is awesome i keep coming back to it my self.... but for the record i've only owned my phone for about a month and i havn't had any problems at all with i love actually .. i just can't find a kernel that doesn't mess things up back on subject i pretty sure GB took care of most of the problems people were having with the phone i don't know if they did any hardware updates to the newer models
Yeah, it's great. The only issue I have is that Swype doesn't give me a list of alternatives when I double tap a word, so I need to re-Swype the word "if" when it was supposed to be the word "of".
Last question, Can I make multiple backups with Flashworkmod? Now that I've fully set up all my phone, apps and fully configured all my settings, I wanted to back it up to this point so my personalized settings are still accessible. Or is it only one backup?
C16MkII said:
Yeah, it's great. The only issue I have is that Swype doesn't give me a list of alternatives when I double tap a word, so I need to re-Swype the word "if" when it was supposed to be the word "of".
Last question, Can I make multiple backups with Flashworkmod? Now that I've fully set up all my phone, apps and fully configured all my settings, I wanted to back it up to this point so my personalized settings are still accessible. Or is it only one backup?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you mean Clockworkmod Recovery? The backups are coded by date and time so you can make as many as you want. Consider each one a snapshot of the exact state of the device at the time you made the backup. It will be restored exactly the same.
Yeah, whoops. Clockworkmod Recovery. Thanks for the help!
jboxer said:
Do you mean Clockworkmod Recovery? The backups are coded by date and time so you can make as many as you want. Consider each one a snapshot of the exact state of the device at the time you made the backup. It will be restored exactly the same.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Should I be deleting old back ups how much memory does each back up take?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

Two very annoying issues with this phone

Rooted, CM 7.1.0, T-Mobile
Not sure if these are CM issues or HTC's crappy hardware issues, but...
1. When I try to turn on the screen using either the top button or bottom trackpad button, the screen will flash on for a second and then go off again. It will do this two or three times until the screen stays on at the lock screen. Didn't do this before CM, but also didn't start until months after I modded to CM.
2. When using the on screen keyboard(in vertical mode) sometimes it's like the touchscreen is responding very slowly to my taps and CERTAIN KEYS will not work at all. So I'll be typing and the keyboard will be kinda sluggish and suddenly I'll notice that none of the a's I'm hitting are registering. I'll hit the area of the screen over the "a" key and the surrounding keys will register but not "a". I will usually have to turn the screen off and then back on before it starts working again. I think it did this the first time before I modded, but can't quite remember.
Anyone else having these problems?
The first problem has happened before on some roms.
I don't recommend using CM 7, its old, outdated and hasn't been fully patched.
I had that same touch keyboard issue with my HTC EVO shift and my HTC Inspire....an of course all my phones were on different ROMS
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk 2 Beta-4
The first issue... are you oc? If so how much? Really no need to oc this phone. Also, it could be a wake issue, if you are underclocked to much, there is a minimum amount that sometimes has to be higher on some phones than others.
It seems to me these could be kernel issues.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
mrbmg said:
The first issue... are you oc? If so how much? Really no need to oc this phone. Also, it could be a wake issue, if you are underclocked to much, there is a minimum amount that sometimes has to be higher on some phones than others.
It seems to me these could be kernel issues.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unless CM over or under clocks by default, then no changes in cpu.
You should run the HTC stock software for a few days or a week to see if the problems you have are persistant across ROMs, or something specific to your current software package.
Just a thought.
Sent from my Bulletproof_Doubleshot using xda premium
Blue6IX said:
You should run the HTC stock software for a few days or a week to see if the problems you have are persistant across ROMs, or something specific to your current software package.
Just a thought.
Sent from my Bulletproof_Doubleshot using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I've thought about doing that, but I also use my phone for business and switching between roms is kinda disruptive, so I haven't done that yet. Hoping for more feedback from others.
Preparing for backup
Return to Contents Page - doubleshot Developers Reference
Backup Guide
AviatorJud said:
Yeah I've thought about doing that, but I also use my phone for business and switching between roms is kinda disruptive, so I haven't done that yet. Hoping for more feedback from others.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea, that is something that impacts us all. I could get a lot more dev done if I didn't have to have my plan phone set and ready a specific way each shift to be able to do my job the way i'm expected to.
Best bet would be to wait until you had a day or two off, maybe a weekend or something and when you finish with your obligations before that free time starts:
-try to have near to a full battery or a full one waiting.
Installing a new ROM always works better with a full battery on install, so if you can already be at that step you can start right away instead of waiting for it.
-Make a clockworkmod backup of your device as it sits, and copy that backup to a computer somewhere.
-Get all the ROM files you need to re-install it in a folder with that clockworkmod backup you just made. When you go to put the phone back together to go back to work, if the backup doesn't work for some reason you can at least install fresh and go from there.
-On that note, backup all your apps too. If you do end up having to re-install your ROM you are running right now, being able to install all the apps right away again off the sdcard saves a lot of time and hassle.
Make sure to get those apps backed up to a computer too.
-backup all your contacts. Export everything you can to the sdcard, and then copy that to the computer too.
-Make sure you have all the passwords and account names you need for anything you have installed. (Gmail(s) - Games - accounts tied to apps or services you use)
If you do have to reinstall everything, and you use internet services like dropbox or an internet faxing service you don't want to have to track down those logins if you don't type them often. Make sure you check all your apps and write them down ahead of time.
-Lastly, since you are on CM7, use titanium backup to backup everything and copy that also to the folder on the computer. The word backup in the computer industry is synonymous with redundant, and if it's not you're doing it wrong.
The reason why I said to copy all these backups off the phone and onto a computer is because if something catastrophically bad happens to the phone then what?
By catastrophically bad I mean you format the sdcard by mistake on a factory reset while you're playing with different ROMs - what then?
If you do need the device for work, and you are serious about trying to test the errors against being a phone-specific hardware issue or a software issue with the ROM you are using, then jogging your process by putting this all out there might help you get started.
When you get that downtime, you'll know ahead of time so you can prepare, and then when it hits you have an immediate plan of action to put into place to maximise the time you get for testing.
Also, have the ROM you want to put on it ready to go, and if possible alternates to that - so research the 3 software versions available from HTC for the device.
Also become familiar with this process:
Restore to stock
...maybe download all 3 software versions before your free time hits so you have them already. If everything goes sideways you can always use one of them to restore the device.
If you are S-OFF you have nothing to worry about for doing any of the software updates unless you manually re-lock the device, so just don't do that and you'll be fine.
If you are S-ON speak up and i'll lay out your possible headaches along the way and what we know about them if someone else doesn't first.
If you have prepped before the free time hits:
1 - passwords/account info written down and at the computer you'll be using...
2 - all software packages (restore files, roms, anything else...) that you need downloaded and on the computer you'll be using...
3 - all the apps you use backed up and on the computer you'll be using...
4 - any media like pictures and music or anything else backed up to the computer you'll be using...
5 - a full battery or close to ...
...you are still looking at almost an hours worth of backup time to do the clockworkmod backup, titanium backup, transfer them to the computer, and then you might run a little over that time when you test the clockworkmod backup.
( you always test the backup - the only thing worse then not having a backup is having a corrupt one you thought was good )
...which cuts into your time testing the other ROM enough as it is, but if you aren't ready to do it like this it will take significantly longer.
Since you'll know when the time hits getting a majority of the media, pictures and user generated stuff plus most (if not all) of the apps you use backup up the day before helps cut down on a lot, but that hour is still lost to making a way of putting it back together again.
You also need to leave yourself a solid 4 hours to put the machine back to the way it is before you started on the other side. Again, on install, you want to have a full battery so plan for that too.
4 hours gives you enough time to get everything slapped together from a fresh CM7 install and manually doing all your apps and setting up the phone for work, if the CWM backup fails for some reason and you have to start over.
I just want to see everyone have their phones running right, and if it's a hardware issue then you should get it repaired, if it's a software issue then you should seek a solution - but the quickest way to a result, and the one for your issue, is to directly test it yourself.
Since you sounded like you came to that conclusion too, your only issue now is squeezing it into a time slot you can get so don't hesitate if you have questions on the processes involved.
Edit - also:
If you have multiple MicroSD cards you could use for this, then you can save a lot more time.
You could take the one you have in there now out, and put it to the side so that when you installed your work setup again the memory card and all it's stuff is right there.
Then you could take different memory cards and have them pre-made to what you need, so as soon as you are done backups you power off and swap memory cards.
First one you swap in has the PG59IMG.zip restore file (and nothing else) renamed that way and ready to go, so when you power back on to hboot that installs itself and you save the time spent copying that over before you can install it.
When that finishes, you are back to stock and ready to go, and you didn't change any of the info on your work sdcard.
Something to think about, if work stuff is that important that's what i'd do (and what I do myself, so thought to add it)
Wow Blue, thank you for taking the time to respond. I think I will have some time this weekend to give this a shot. I am S-OFF. And you're right, as long as you plan everything ahead and allow for the time to get set back up, it's not too bad. I'm just trying to decide what rom to try switch to. I really hate sense, so I don't really wanna go back to stock. Wish there was a good stable vanilla to use. Any thoughts?
Oh and if I want to update to the newest radio, which is listed in your "return to stock" thread and then perhaps use another custom rom, like bulletproof, will that radio stick? Do roms not ever update the radio? I just noticed that I am on the original one for the doubleshot, which came out last june.
AviatorJud said:
Oh and if I want to update to the newest radio, which is listed in your "return to stock" thread and then perhaps use another custom rom, like bulletproof, will that radio stick? Do roms not ever update the radio? I just noticed that I am on the original one for the doubleshot, which came out last june.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't even know what radio I'm on that's a sad thing...but yeah once you update your radio, no Rom will overwrite the radio unless it somehow has one in it you know...
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk
AviatorJud said:
Wow Blue, thank you for taking the time to respond. I think I will have some time this weekend to give this a shot. I am S-OFF. And you're right, as long as you plan everything ahead and allow for the time to get set back up, it's not too bad. I'm just trying to decide what rom to try switch to. I really hate sense, so I don't really wanna go back to stock. Wish there was a good stable vanilla to use. Any thoughts?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My pleasure, it's what makes XDA work - people taking time to share what they've learned so others can benefit from or add to the knowledge.
If you are trying to bug-check, honestly, the stock official ROM is a good one to use. It's not something you are so much doing to enjoy the phone, as much as to check on a specific aspect of it.
Further, you are already halfway home on putting the phone back to factory settings if it is a hardware issue, so then you just have to S-ON it and send it in for repair - though you probably won't get it back with S-OFF ability, you will at least be able to unlock it.
Just from directly developing things for the device, and having to go through these testing procedures time and again, I try to set the process up to keep moving, so by going to bone stock if it is broken you already have taken steps to make it what it has to be to send it in, the next looming goal if you aren't going to restore to your work setup.
AviatorJud said:
Oh and if I want to update to the newest radio, which is listed in your "return to stock" thread and then perhaps use another custom rom, like bulletproof, will that radio stick? Do roms not ever update the radio? I just noticed that I am on the original one for the doubleshot, which came out last june.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This was just answered above me, but you can always go back to previous radio installs if you are S-OFF...but only if S-OFF.
I've run Bulletproof on the new radio and it runs fine, so doesn't matter either way on that one - other ROMs you'll have to ask the author.
ROMs can update the radio, or only work on specific ones, but for our device I don't think it's been an issue yet, pretty sure everything works with everything on that part.

aeon 1.4sl

ok i have this rom on my phone and i think its pretty good, there are a cuople little issues that get me ,like sometimes my screen wont come on at all. its only happened twice though and i take battery out and it fixes it. and sometimes it wont send a picture text at all until a reboot. and lately i will be in a place where i know i have at&t service and i will get the no service icon, just outta the blue then it comes back in service. but dont get me wrong i am still happy. my question is are there any more roms out there that you guys consider as stable, wi-fi,bluetooth and gps working that is. if so could ya tell me so i can try some. thanks.
cain308 said:
ok i have this rom on my phone and i think its pretty good, there are a cuople little issues that get me ,like sometimes my screen wont come on at all. its only happened twice though and i take battery out and it fixes it. and sometimes it wont send a picture text at all until a reboot. and lately i will be in a place where i know i have at&t service and i will get the no service icon, just outta the blue then it comes back in service. but dont get me wrong i am still happy. my question is are there any more roms out there that you guys consider as stable, wi-fi,bluetooth and gps working that is. if so could ya tell me so i can try some. thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
....it is a listing of all the stable ROMs...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610374
thanks i will have a look, one question though. can i with titanium backup or some other way back up my phone exactly as it is now in case i dont like the new rom. i am talking like getting everything the way it is now without reinstalling all the individual apps and everything. like a picture of the phone now and if i dont like new rom come back to it like it is. i know that sounds confusing and i am sorry.
cain308 said:
thanks i will have a look, one question though. can i with titanium backup or some other way back up my phone exactly as it is now in case i dont like the new rom. i am talking like getting everything the way it is now without reinstalling all the individual apps and everything. like a picture of the phone now and if i dont like new rom come back to it like it is. i know that sounds confusing and i am sorry.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go into CWM and under backups and restore, backup your current ROM from there.
Everything from text messages to every app you've downloaded will be backed up.
If you end up not liking the new ROM, go to CWM and choose backup and restore and restore from there.
Sent from my Saurom'd Infuse
cain308 said:
thanks i will have a look, one question though. can i with titanium backup or some other way back up my phone exactly as it is now in case i dont like the new rom. i am talking like getting everything the way it is now without reinstalling all the individual apps and everything. like a picture of the phone now and if i dont like new rom come back to it like it is. i know that sounds confusing and i am sorry.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
use zen toolkit....works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702026
Trolling via Tapatalk 2, on my GNote...

My SK4G Story

Hi all,
I finally decided to add a custom rom to my SK4G. I had retired it for a year or so, not from getting a new phone, but rather my youngest child dropped it in a mud puddle. I had put it in rice and all that good stuff. I was able to get it to turn back on, but it has very very very low battery. So I put it on the charger, and it would briefly show the charging symbol and disappear. So I had assumed that it was totally shot, And while I was disappointed, because I love this phone, it still was not surprising. I mean it was in a mud puddle right. LoL
Well about 2 weeks ago I got bored, and figured what the smudge, I will ticker with it. I figured, I couldnt do any worse to it than what was already done. So I once again tried to see if it would charge. Tried by wall charger, by car charger, and by USB charging. But alas once again nothing. Well my husband also has a SK4G. So I ganked his battery for a little bit, and lo and behold, it worked. Turned on flawlessly, and not one issue in the operating system at all. Well at least as flawlessly as a stock SK4g could get. lol
So I was thinking maybe the charger slot had shorted out for whatever, from it being in the mud puddle. I put the battery from my SK4G in my husbands phone and agin tried all 3 charging methinds, and still nothing. So I pluged my phone in with his battery and it went to charing just fine. Okay so, new battery. Not that bad, but I dont order anything over the net. I hate waiting, I live in a big enough city, I figured I could go to one of the electronic stores and get one.
So I tried 5 different places, no one had a replacement for it, but once gain I was impatient and didnt want to wait. Did some googling and found out Batteries plus carries a replacement for it. Wasnt thrilled by the fact that they charge 2 to 3 times more for it that other places. But whatever, if it got my phone running again, okay. I had my oldest son pick me up one on his way home from work. Gave him the stock battery numbers and all that. He brings it home, and I go to put it in and..................It is not even close to being a compatible replacement for the samsung battery. Went back down there and returned it. Told the sales clerk that their website was completely wrong. Upon looking through their wall of replacement cell batteries, I did find another battery that was a perfect match. Only to have the "Battery Expert" argue with me about it being the right one. Finally got him to stop running his mouth and bought the battery.
I had just recently ended my contract with t-mobile, and wanted to take my SK4G with me to a new carrier. Well in order to do that, I needed to unlock the network. So it was research time. Googled and found XDA. Which from then on has ben invaluable to the process. Found Sidekick 4G Unlocking *Follow Directions Closely written by troby86 and SuperOneClick - Root/Unroot Your Samsung Sidekick 4G by Ayoteddy .Had a few problems with SOC. It kept freezing at step 7. Took me a few to find the reason why ( answer is in the forums here, just took some digging and reading to find. The culprit was the "Exploit setting needed to be set to "psneuter". Changed that and finshed rooting with out any more problems on that part.
Next had to unlock the network, following the above mentioned thread. Tried it 2 or 3 times to no avail. Then it dawned on me that I hadnt rebooted after I got it rooted. So rebooted and tried the terminal part of it again. And Bingo! It took the commands or whatever you would like to call them. SK4G was now unlocked. Yay!
SInce I had already been in the forum looking at the unlock and root guides. I decided why not go ahead and put a custom rom on it too. I loved my SK I just loathed the software on it. Constantly freezing while surfing the net or trying to use facebook. I spent a bunch of time browsing the forums, reading the comments on all the roms and trying to decide which rom I wanted to use. I had orginally choose CM6-Merged.
So read the thread on it, and even watched a youtube video by sinesolder. The next task was to chase down all the files I needed to install that, plus the CWM stuff too. I flashed CWM using the app "Root Manager" in the play store. Next was to swap out the "recovery" file. Took a few mins to find it, but did. Placed it in the root of the SDcard along with the update zip. Downloaded Astro file manager from the play store. Went to bottem of list and copied the recovery file, then pasted in system/bin folder. Rebooted, clicked reinstall packages on the stock (blue) recovery screen. But it was a no go. it would not give me the orange CWM. It just ket saying E :file invalid, or some such rubbish. So back to combing the forums again. Had stumbled upon a post some where here, that said something about MNT/SDcard. And sure enough, I copied the recovery file from the MNT/SDcard directory, then pasted in the system/bin. Reboot again, reinstall packages and BAM Orange CWM! But before I flashed my first rom, i wanted to get the red CWM/voodoo recovery. That way I didnt have to worry about mounts while flashing. After much reading again in the forum, I found that the red CWM was already included with the Bali Kernal. Reboot again, then install from SDcard, choose Bali Kernal and installed. Woo Hoo red CWM was up and going. phew.... lol or so I thought. Plugged phone in and put CM6 - Merged on the SD. Back to recovery, wipe factory, wipe cache, wipe dalvik. Then install from SDcard again, chose CM-6 Merged.
This is where I had a bit of a panic. As I was not paying atternion the what Kernal or Baseband the rom was made to run with. So that ended up soft-bricking my phone. But yet again, XDA to the rescue. Searched it out and found the "ODIN to stock" thread. Just had to track down the right TAR and PIT files. I was orginally on KJ2 stock before I did anything, but I could only find the KD1 TAR. No biggie tho, just used the ODIN to stock method and I was back in business again.
Since I am far from having any real knowledge about roms and their internal workings and what-nots. I went about just trying to find roms that would run off of the Bali Kernal and the KD1 baseband. I did find working links to a few of them, not exactly sure how many, but I had serval choices. I went with GingerClone v.2.
Back to reboot, wipe factory, wipe cache, wipe dalvik. Install from SDcard, chose GingerClone and installed. Booted up and everyhting was all hunky dory again. Ran that rom for a few days. And yes it was a really nice rom, and it was faster than stock. It just was quicte what I was looking for.
Back to looking for ROM files, seeing which links were still good and trying to figure out which one I thought would work best for me. Tried TouchMIUIwiz v3, and again very good rom, but still not quite right. Decided to spend a whole day just comparing roms that would work with Bali and KD1. There are only a few roms that are made with KD1. So I wanted to go back to KJ2. I was thinking the only way I could do that was if I wiped again and the hooked up to Kios (or whatever it is called), But no, I found a working like to a KJ2 file. After another set of wiping in recovery, then Flashed the KJ2, then Flashed Nexus CM. Been messing with in for fwe days, and have to say I really really like this one. It has been smooth as glass and quick as a rabbit. I am thinking as long as I dont run into any major problems or bugs with it, this wil be my daily driver.
But I do have a question, since most of you have been here for awhile, and have been able to try out alot of these roms when they were new. Whick rom, in your own opinion, would make web surfing fast and smooth, and also works awesome with facebook? have already rooted and unlocked my husbands SK4G, but he surfs the web and does his facebooking from his SK, and it loves to freeze up and lag out when using both of those things.
Now that I am at the bottom with this, very sorry if my post seemed to long or anything else. Thanks in advance!
That's quite the story there. Crazy to believe it still works.
As for the ROM question, really all of the ROMS for SK4G are outdated. Due to software available. The only ROMS that I would say are up to snuff now are the neXus GB and JB ROMS by RicAndroid. They are chock full of tweaks and scripts. But keep in mind, you're not going to be on the actual newer Android versions. So it may run better, and it may be faster, but only so much.
Hope this helps
Zydrate_blue said:
That's quite the story there. Crazy to believe it still works.
As for the ROM question, really all of the ROMS for SK4G are outdated. Due to software available. The only ROMS that I would say are up to snuff now are the neXus GB and JB ROMS by RicAndroid. They are chock full of tweaks and scripts. But keep in mind, you're not going to be on the actual newer Android versions. So it may run better, and it may be faster, but only so much.
Hope this helps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was pleasantly surprised when it turned out to be just a battery issue.
Thanks for the answer on the roms. I realized that these are older roms now, and its not the most crrrent version of android and all that, and I am totally fine with it. I am just looking for something that is better, smoother and faster than the stock stuff on the phone, for my husband. He still uses his SK4G as well. In fact I dont think I could get him to upgrade to a new smartphone phone/ android device anyways. So I was just looking for something to stop his constant frezzing issue while he is web surfing and things like that. You were very helpful tho, so thanks a bunch.
I agree with Zydrate_Blue; the Nexus JB ROM is about as good as it gets with this phone.
Thanks guys! I will have to d/l and flash it.
CupCakeBombardme said:
Thanks guys! I will have to d/l and flash it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For a smoother internet interface. Get yourself NakedBrowser. They've got a free version that works just lovely. I haven't tried the paid version myself, but if may very well be worth it for someone who uses it a lot!

Categories

Resources