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Let us all pray that the same exploit will work for the Sensation.
Amen.
That would rock
what that was fast... I pray to god
I followed that thread pretty closely and it sounds like we'll be able to use the same exploit. They hinted it's in the kernel.
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what that was fast... I pray to god
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yup they sure have a lot of dev support over there , that's what making me think about jumping ships over to the evo , here is like the devs don't care about the sensation at all..........
Now we don't have to go by htc rules yay,now let the bricking begin.
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I followed that thread pretty closely and it sounds like we'll be able to use the same exploit. They hinted it's in the kernel.
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Yeah, the hardware is very similar between the two devices, there are good chances the same exploit will work on the Sensation!
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yup they sure have a lot of dev support over there , that's what making me think about jumping ships over to the evo , here is like the devs don't care about the sensation at all..........
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Your very mistaken, there have been people spending countless hours in attempt to achieve root-just so happens that the group that achieved it were working on the evo 3d. Don't accuse the developers of not caring about HTC'S flagship device. Be appreciative
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yup they sure have a lot of dev support over there , that's what making me think about jumping ships over to the evo , here is like the devs don't care about the sensation at all..........
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That's because there really isn't much of an option for different Android phones over on Sprint. Over here on Tmo USA there are a ton of different good options for android and the Dev support is split because of that. Many are taking a wait and see approach on the Sensation. Once we get root and S-off I think you will start seeing many more from the G2/Vibrant/MT4G/HD2 coming over to the Sensation. Has there been a phone that has historically had more Dev support than the EVO? Perhaps the HD2 but that's probably about it.
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Your very mistaken, there have been people spending countless hours in attempt to achieve root-just so happens that the group that achieved it were working on the evo 3d. Don't accuse the developers of not caring about HTC'S flagship device. Be appreciative
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then you may know something that is not posted in the sensation forum because i have not read anything about a team of devs working on the sensation like in the evo forum they said who and when they started working on the evo 3d and keept everybody up to date on what was going on the way it was supposed to b.....
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That's because there really isn't much of an option for different Android phones over on Sprint. Over here on Tmo USA there are a ton of different good options for android and the Dev support is split because of that. Many are taking a wait and see approach on the Sensation. Once we get root and S-off I think you will start seeing many more from the G2/Vibrant/MT4G/HD2 coming over to the Sensation. Has there been a phone that has historically had more Dev support than the EVO? Perhaps the HD2 but that's probably about it.
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u may b right , im coming from the hd2 a device with so much dev support it was crazy unreal fun and i figure the support was gona b the same or close to it but not even !
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u may b right , im coming from the hd2 a device with so much dev support it was crazy unreal fun and i figure the support was gona b the same or close to it but not even !
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Like you I'm coming from the HD2, support there was incredible. Whether the Sensation gets that much support or not: there will still be a good amount of development.
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Super excited! I just followed all of the guys from teamwin! Seems that they are working on s-off now. Might be a little bit before they release the root to make sure htc doesn't force an ota but just to know that they have the possibility is great! Thanks for the news!
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Like you I'm coming from the HD2, support there was incredible. Whether the Sensation gets that much support or not: there will still be a good amount of development.
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i hope u r right but up to today i have not seen it and i think we all know that the s off will not come from htc is not the first time they said they r gone release something and nothing happens thats why we depend on the devs more then ever i just wish we had more dev support , its great that they almost have s off over at the evo forum but will it work with the sensation ? because if it doesn't we r back to square one ......
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i hope u r right but up to today i have not seen it and i think we all know that the s off will not come from htc is not the first time they said they r gone release something and nothing happens thats why we depend on the devs more then ever i just wish we had more dev support , its great that they almost have s off over at the evo forum but will it work with the sensation ? because if it doesn't we r back to square one ......
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I'm confident that the exploit will work with the Sensation, considering the phones have the same hboot (correct me if I'm wrong). As to HTC lying about unlocking the devices, I think they will follow through and do so, just not fast enough for the community
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WOW I really hope this translates to the sensation! lets all hope that this root opens teh door for s-off so we can reclaim our phones!
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I'm confident that the exploit will work with the Sensation, considering the phones have the same hboot (correct me if I'm wrong). As to HTC lying about unlocking the devices, I think they will follow through and do so, just not fast enough for the community
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i read over at the evo forum that it was device specific and i also read that it was an kernel exploid those two things tell me that it would not b the same for the sensation but im hopping that im 100% wrong and we can use it o ours sensation because thats all we have up to now ......
It seems that they used a pretty vicious attack to get root. So while it does seem to be device specific, im hoping that with the same amount of time and dedication, our beloved sensation make actually be rooted. For me, even temp-root would do for right now. ive only started my phone over once since i had it because it never dies on me. The only problem im forseeing is s-off. Shinzul said the hboot is definitely nand-locked, so I can't just push the eng hboot and win.
Will keep looking. I do however have great confidence in our devs.
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It seems that they used a pretty vicious attack to get root. So while it does seem to be device specific, im hoping that with the same amount of time and dedication, our beloved sensation make actually be rooted. For me, even temp-root would do for right now. ive only started my phone over once since i had it because it never dies on me. The only problem im forseeing is s-off. Shinzul said the hboot is definitely nand-locked, so I can't just push the eng hboot and win.
Will keep looking. I do however have great confidence in our devs.
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thats what i was talking about , now if anyone can just tell me who or whom are the devs we have working on sensation s off ? i just will like to know because some people said there are some devs working on it but i have not read a dev thread were it saids the name of a dev team working on s off
Yeah, i haven't really read any threads about devs working on it. There was a thread asking if there were devs working and someone suggested that they werent announcing that they were so that people wont constantly pm them asking for an ETA. That doesnt really make sense since an exploit for the Sensation has yet to be found(or maybe just announced) so I would think that would start a thinktank thread but im guess not. Usually devs let you know that they are working with actually revealing exploit. So i dunno whats going on with that, I have been wondering the same.
i was wondering if someone could try porting sense to the sidekick, maybe from the salsa since thats default is in landscape or an actual sense 3.0 phone would be cool.
All of you people are making the Dev's run away from the Sidekick 4G , they were willing to do work without the actual phone & now there not doing anything . There is 3 thread's of these open now & it get's dev's upset when you ask ETA or a Request , If you want a HTC Sense look alike Download HeLauncher & use the HTC Sense Skin & get a HTC Clock .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172460
Or test my rom .
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i was wondering if someone could try porting sense to the sidekick, maybe from the salsa since thats default is in landscape or an actual sense 3.0 phone would be cool.
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You'll never have Sense on the Sidekick 4G. If the Nexus S is closely related then maybe, otherwise no. And just like Revolution said, there were people willing to do work without the actual phone. I was going to, then I opted to buy the phone but after seeing this community i decided, hell no.
Yeah from the looks of it I don't even believe well even see a gingerbread rom or miui or cm7 at this rate. What a shame because I feel like ill have to get the mt4gs now.
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You'll never have Sense on the Sidekick 4G. If the Nexus S is closely related then maybe, otherwise no. And just like Revolution said, there were people willing to do work without the actual phone. I was going to, then I opted to buy the phone but after seeing this community i decided, hell no.
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Exactly. I just sold my sidekick and got a mytouch
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He wasn't asking for a ETA or demanding it or anything out of hand like that. He simply asked a question, it's his right, when people ask questions, it shows interest and points a direction for people to go in right? If devs want to go ahead and leave because of THIS then nobody is stopping them, however..i dont think they are obligated to do it and meet everyones demands and such, SO WHAT if someone wants something ROM related and makes demands and stuff? shoot, then go make it yourself, learn to develope roms. and if you cant, i guess you'll just have to deal with it right? a dev shouldnt leave because of a hand full of whiney people. nobody is MAKING them leave when they leave for THIS reason.
I know ICS hasn't been released yet, but HTC runs a different OS then the ones with Gingerbread so are they gonna release it for HTC Inspire to?
Hope so cause i would like to check it out.
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I know ICS hasn't been released yet, but HTC runs a different OS then the ones with Gingerbread so are they gonna release it for HTC Inspire to?
Hope so cause i would like to check it out.
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uhhhhhh.......
and where did you hear that HTC phones dont run Gingerbread???
because thats completely false....
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I know ICS hasn't been released yet, but HTC runs a different OS then the ones with Gingerbread so are they gonna release it for HTC Inspire to?
Hope so cause i would like to check it out.
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You see, this is the kinda stuff that should be in the q and a section. Complete noob kinda material.
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WoW
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I know ICS hasn't been released yet, but HTC runs a different OS then the ones with Gingerbread so are they gonna release it for HTC Inspire to?
Hope so cause i would like to check it out.
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Listen up pal, lemme help ya a bit.... (To be honest, re-reading your post, and again reading, I can't make heads or tails of what your asking. Will ICS be an available base for Inspire Devs to work with? Is that closer to what your suggesting, or asking?)
When the Inspire was released it was running Froyo, and when GB leaked the Devs with thier almighty wizardry developed a Rom(s) based on GB that could be flashed on rooted phones. Then HTC provided OTA updates for folks not rooted, which in turn gave most (all) Inspire users a Gingerbread based Sense Rom. Now that may not be all perfectly explained, but maybe it will help you to reassess how your question or statement is asked.....
Check this out. Opened a new Tab - Googled Ice Cream Shop Android and there it was.
Google wants ICS rolling out soon to compete with Apple - and it will be an available upgrade for existing smartphone users capable of running 2.3 (or 2.2 don't remember) They want all capable Android devices to be able to integrate with this new OS. SO my bet is this, once it drops those wacky wizards will be all over it - and a rooted user will see it before HTC pushes it out OTA
Edit: Your not grasping this the right way mate, so let me sum it up better. It's not a question (referring to thread title) of is ICS for HTC. ICS is an Android OS, which means its for Android powered devices. HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc will use ICS for thier newest ANDROID powered devices, following that will probably be the dev versions, then official OTAs will follow - HOPEfully. Damn. That was tough........ ....... ...... .......
Sorry for the confusing question.
In other words, you're saying that all android phones (Running Sense or other OS) will be updated ICS?
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Sorry for confusing question.
I guess what i was trying to say was if i go out when ICS is release and buy a HTC Inspire will the OS be ICS or Sense?
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Sense isn't an OS. Its a UI. Sense is built on top of android OS 's like 2.2.1, 2.3.3. The HTC inspire will not be getting ICS. But as an EXAMPLE if it did, the OS would be ICS and sense would be built on top of it as a UI.
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Sense isn't an OS. Its a UI. Sense is built on top of android OS 's like 2.2.1, 2.3.3. The HTC inspire will not be getting ICS. But as an EXAMPLE if it did, the OS would be ICS and sense would be built on top of it as a UI.
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Ok that was the answer i was looking for. Thank you.
Just curious do you happen to know WHY its officially not getting ICS?
SBasham said:
Sorry for confusing question.
I guess what i was trying to say was if i go out when ICS is release and buy a HTC Inspire will the OS be ICS or Sense?
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Lol, no apology necessary bud, but please don't be offended when I say you really should read a little something or other (Google "What is HTC Sense UI") to better inform yourself about your Phone. One last try bud - here we go. Ready?
Android powers your phone. Sense is a UI (user interface) which allows you to navigate through your phones OS or Operating System. Think of it like this bud - if Google is your car - Sense is the steering wheel. So if you go and buy another Inspire, The O.S. will be Gingerbread, How you will tell the OS what to do next, will be Sense. If that doesn't answer anything - then its someone else's turn...
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Lol, no apology necessary bud, but please don't be offended when I say you really should read a little something or other (Google "What is HTC Sense UI") to better inform yourself about your Phone. One last try bud - here we go. Ready?
Android powers your phone. Sense is a UI (user interface) which allows you to navigate through your phones OS or Operating System. Think of it like this bud - if Google is your car - Sense is the steering wheel. So if you go and buy another Inspire, The O.S. will be Gingerbread, How you will tell the OS what to do next, will be Sense. If that doesn't answer anything - then its someone else's turn...
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I got it with this post
trell959 said:
Sense isn't an OS. Its a UI. Sense is built on top of android OS 's like 2.2.1, 2.3.3. The HTC inspire will not be getting ICS. But as an EXAMPLE if it did, the OS would be ICS and sense would be built on top of it as a UI.
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gingerbread is the skeleton, sense is the skin.
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Ok that was the answer i was looking for. Thank you.
Just curious do you happen to know WHY its officially not getting ICS?
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In my opinion, HTC devs wont see a reason to rebuild sense over a new android build when they just released gingerbread. But more than likely there will be ICS roms
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Ok. I hope there is a stock ICS rom cause i want to check it out but not have stupid add ons.
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Ok. I hope there is a stock ICS rom cause i want to check it out but not have stupid add ons.
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Hmm. We will have to wait and see
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In my opinion, HTC devs wont see a reason to rebuild sense over a new android build when they just released gingerbread. But more than likely there will be ICS roms
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I was just asking your opinion on this and my battery died. They said ICS would support devices less than a year old. So we know the Devs will get thier hands on it, but it might be in HTCs interest to upgrade as Google is wanting a multi-device compatibility and interaction like iPhone, IPad, etc.... What I hope doesn't happen is HTC holding out an Update solely to encourage upgrading.
Edit: Sounds Promising, Looks and Sounds Stellar, we shall wait and see indeed. SBasham - I re-read my post and wanted to apologize for sounding snarky. Totally didn't mean to be a downer bud!
That's my cue its pillow time....
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I was just asking your opinion on this and my battery died. They said ICS would support devices less than a year old. So we know the Devs will get thier hands on it, but it might be in HTCs interest to upgrade as Google is wanting a multi-device compatibility and interaction like iPhone, IPad, etc.... What I hope doesn't happen is HTC holding out an Update solely to encourage upgrading.
Edit: Sounds Promising, Looks and Sounds Stellar, we shall wait and see indeed. SBasham - I re-read my post and wanted to apologize for sounding snarky. Totally didn't mean to be a downer bud!
That's my cue its pillow time....
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haha its fine you didn't sound snarky to me.
It looked like you and Trell were the same person cause the AT&T icon.
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haha its fine you didn't sound snarky to me.
It looked like you and Trell were the same person cause the AT&T icon.
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Trell is a lot more informed than I am. I would probably take his advice, or answer as wielding more authority.
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Trell is a lot more informed than I am. I would probably take his advice, or answer as wielding more authority.
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Thank you!
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So do you think the un-rooted inspire 4ag get ICS?
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So do you think un-rooted Inspire 4G will get the ICS update?
I guess I can count EVO out :'(
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The best we can hope for is a ported rom as I don't see ATT giving another update to this device. Now I hope I am wrong but past prices other wise
Why can't we get any rom for the mt4gs? I have been waiting and nothing is coming but the sensation has a lot of roms....
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We're all waiting and hoping as well, and some of us have even pledged money to whoever can help us out, but for now we just continue to wait. The Sensation has been out for a bit longer now, and I'm sure in due time we'll get ROMs, but not soon enough... It's not that we CAN'T get ROMs, it's just that no one has developed one yet...
i wish theres a way to learn how to develop roms, cuz our phone is similar to the sensation, so there would be a slight changes to the ROMs they have no?
Yeah it seems like for the most part all we have is a newer H-Boot and probably not much else... I put a thread in the Sensation forums asking for a dev to try out the MT4GS but no luck so far...
on of the more daunting hurdles to jump the the difference in screen size between the 2 devices
im tryin to get androidspin or androidcentral to tweet saying that we need a new rom for the mytouch 4g slide
Although I'm used to the wait for the first ROMs, I am surprised that we haven't had a CM dev (new or existing) popping in to say they've picked it up and are working on it.
Also not sure if this thread belongs in the dev forum...
yea sorry for posting it in the dev forum but its not like we have any dev yet... and BTW androidspin Retweeted my tweet, lets see if we get anything.
my twitter: motown9987
*holds breath and crosses fingers*
I sent a PM to Cjward23 and Evil D: who are part of the Virtuous team, I would LOVE to have any one of their ROMs for this device! I told them there would be money offered, as I'm sure many of us are willing to do! He said he'd pass it on to the team - hopefully things will start to happen for us!
yea i tweeted virtuousteam team telling them to make a rom for us, so lets see if they respond, *crossing fingers*
MT4GS are similar to the G2 yeah? Same res, etc. I dont think it would be that hard. Im a dev for the DZ, and could probs port some over, but it would be pretty hard without MT4GS. Too bad they aint available in the uk D:
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We'll be the testers =)
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Hehe, ill probs try my hand at it =) im using the doubleshot rom on my DZ, its sikkkk
Seen as iv never been in this forum, heres a little about me:
Im 15. In the UK. Last year of secondary/highschool.
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i think we will see a lot of woek now that every one has s-off
soon
is there any resource where we can read if you want to get started as a newbie developer?
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is there any resource where we can read if you want to get started as a newbie developer?
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http://developer.android.com/index.html
This is the best place to start, it has just about all the resources you'll need. It's overwhelming at first, but just take it one step at a time and you can make some progress. I say all of that, of course, and I haven't actually done any dev work myself...
I already have a mt4gs stock ROM deodexed, debloated, optimized, busybox, and some other enhancements all ready in the works. I will also add a data app folder so the bloat can be easily removed. Just give me a week or so to get settled in. I'm coming over from the mt4g so patience will be needed. I think this mytouch slide I have is defective so I wanna test this ROM before i release it.
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MT4GS are similar to the G2 yeah? Same res, etc. I dont think it would be that hard. Im a dev for the DZ, and could probs port some over, but it would be pretty hard without MT4GS. Too bad they aint available in the uk D:
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they are, try eBay .
Are there any sources yet?
I would like to try a port as well, I have a MT4G slide, but it is my daily phone .
i love the default rom, running evil D: 's port on my G2
I would like to try MIUI on the MT4G slide, but with a rotating launcher.
CM7 + go launcher is pretty good as well, using Theme installer
Man what is this crap?? The G2 already has a rom ported from the Mytouch 4g slide..this is bull. Has anyone heard an update on how much longer it might be till we see some roms??..im having Custom ROM withdrawl..lol
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Is there a way that the mt4gs can get any of the sense 3.0 lockscreens without root or roms. And is there any way that the device can get different themes i do know that its technically impossible to get it from the market or from the htchub/htcsense website. Ive also email htc about the ics update and sense 3.6 for the device. Ive done it twice and i will upload both replies.
Here's one of the messages they sent to me..........
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Is there a way that the mt4gs can get any of the sense 3.0 lockscreens without root or roms. And is there any way that the device can get different themes i do know that its technically impossible to get it from the market or from the htchub/htcsense website. Ive also email htc about the ics update and sense 3.6 for the device. Ive done it twice and i will upload both replies.
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Try Go locker, and Go launcher. Go locker has all kinds of lockscreens, and Go Launcher has all kinds of themes.
We are not getting ICS officially ever. I contacted my "connection" at htc and he said the HTC Doubleshot will not get updated due to "Tmobiles Add on Skin" meaning expresso. We are the red headed step children. Stop asking htc when we are getting an update cause we are not. We will be lucky to see 2.3.5 officially.
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Is there a way that the mt4gs can get any of the sense 3.0 lockscreens without root or roms. And is there any way that the device can get different themes i do know that its technically impossible to get it from the market or from the htchub/htcsense website. Ive also email htc about the ics update and sense 3.6 for the device. Ive done it twice and i will upload both replies.
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Widgetlocker.
Shoupdve got a sensation.......trading my phone does any body know some one that wants it?
K7Cobb said:
Shoupdve got a sensation.......trading my phone does any body know some one that wants it?
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My dad has a sensation its complete **** don't get it
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K7Cobb said:
Shoupdve got a sensation.......trading my phone does any body know some one that wants it?
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Dont do it. You will regret it.
Does any1 know how long it takes to mod your mt4gs and root it and get 2 roms? Can some1 give me the link for team freedom sense 3.5 rom and the sensation 4g rom.
K7Cobb said:
Does any1 know how long it takes to mod your mt4gs and root it and get 2 roms? Can some1 give me the link for team freedom sense 3.5 rom and the sensation 4g rom.
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Team Freedom never got the rom working.
You need to have ADB (Android Debugging Bridge) Setup.
Then goto the "Unlocker.Com". They have guides for our phone, alongside a video to help.
There's no Sense 3.0 Roms that are worth flashing on XDA. Over on Rootzwiki there's a Sense 3.0 Rom called "Rubix Sensation".
We have an ICS 3.6 Rom. Great since we have WVGA 3.6 parts now.
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I could mod my phone its just my old pc that is messing my process up.
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We are not getting ICS officially ever. I contacted my "connection" at htc and he said the HTC Doubleshot will not get updated due to "Tmobiles Add on Skin" meaning expresso. We are the red headed step children. Stop asking htc when we are getting an update cause we are not. We will be lucky to see 2.3.5 officially.
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Someone's cousin/friend/uncle etc. has been telling someone crap for decades. 99% of the time it is bullsh*t. People claimed the original MyTouch would never be updated, yet HTC updated the whole lineup, even the old, ancient original one, up to Froyo.
I'm not counting out an official ICS update for the DoubleShot just yet. It might be late, but I think we will get one.
How do i get the trace input to work on this device id perfer it rather than the swype kb.
How do i get the trace input to work on this device id perfer it rather than the swype kb. Its enabled and everything just doesnt work any help.