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hey!
which 32A NR rom got best 3d drivers so far? trying play icommando leaves me in like 1-2 frames per sec... so i wonder what rom should i use to have the best 3D GPU support?
at the moment I'm using robocik's last rom.
from what I've been reading HTC MAGIC's CPU is dual core with hardware GPU for 3D. So i can only guess that the performance I can see now is probably due to not perfect GPU drivers.
thanks!
Use a 1.6 rom. Easy as that. In every 2.1 rom thread the devs say you will have problems with video and 3d. So if your really into your games and videos I suggest going to Cyan, Super D or a hero rom.
crypysmoker said:
Use a 1.6 rom. Easy as that. In every 2.1 rom thread the devs say you will have problems with video and 3d. So if your really into your games and videos I suggest going to Cyan, Super D or a hero rom.
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but some people says that 1.6 roms got no 3D drivers for the hardware GPU. so unsure...what do you say about it?
thnx
rommark said:
but some people says that 1.6 roms got no 3D drivers for the hardware GPU. so unsure...what do you say about it?
thnx
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all the 2.1 roms still have issues with 3d and video, and until theyre fixed, i suggest stick with 1.6
Same question though... Does 1.6 have 3d drivers? I thought only cupcake has drivers.
would icommando and exzeus games will work smooth/fast on 1.6 roms?
since now it runs on 1-2 FPS :/
thnx!
rommark said:
would icommando and exzeus games will work smooth/fast on 1.6 roms?
since now it runs on 1-2 FPS :/
thnx!
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icommando is not designed for your phone period
until you upgrade to a nexus one it will play like ****
you cannot install it on roms < 2.1
In my opinion, the XT720 is a piece of junk. I'll take the Galaxy S over the XT720 any day. As far as "hacking" goes, you can only root it, overclock it, install app2sd, and install JIT. There are no custom ROMs because of the locked bootloader. The phone isn't smooth at all even when overclocked at 1000 MHz (Unless you have like two homescreens and 1 widget). The only good thing about this phone is that it has a 8MP camera with Xenon flash. Take note on spiderx_mm's post, he has everything covered.
If you'd like, I'll sell you my XT720 if you're in the Toronto or Ottawa area. It's lightly used and has no scuffs or knicks.
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In my opinion, the XT720 is a piece of junk. I'll take the Galaxy S over the XT720 any day. As far as "hacking" goes, you can only root it, overclock it, install app2sd, and install JIT. There are no custom ROMs because of the locked bootloader. The phone isn't smooth at all even when overclocked at 1000 MHz (Unless you have like two homescreens and 1 widget). The only good thing about this phone is that it has a 8MP camera with Xenon flash. Take note on spiderx_mm's post, he has everything covered.
If you'd like, I'll sell you my XT720 if you're in the Toronto or Ottawa area. It's lightly used and has no scuffs or knicks.
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u proof me wrong dude!..here my 7 home screen...
The XT720 is quite laggy even at 1000MHz. I absolutely despise this phone.
Hi heat my XT720 all ppl have 2.2 yeah all and my XT720 don't even Moto think to get it out i have post to Moto on facebook and i say to do them i heat Moto and even my friends thy never will buy Moto what ever the do if thy give it for me for free i will not take it i have order Nexus S so bye Moto for ever ...........
This phone is a piece of ****. Im using a motoroi(korean version of Milestone) this phone is slow as hell on 2.1. After waiting for how many months this is what i got? All i got is a hotspot tha i dont use. I expect sonething new or speed boost. Speed boost especially. But its getting worst. F.... This phone. I tried all the tweaks. I even overclocked it to 1.2 ghz. But the phone just reboot randomly. Now im using it just for sms and call. Even during a call its so annoying that the screen was so sensitive the i always touched the mute button accidentally..
That's weird. You say you have Motoroi, but the Motoroi has 2.2 atm. Please explain
I totally love this phone. It's the best phone I had to date (I swear). Especially the camera rocks and unlike others, it works extremely good here and no pixels at all like some suggest
I don't care for 2.1 to be honest. 2.2 is a free update so if they don't wanna give it, then fine, I don't care. I don't need 2.2 anyway. If there would be a reason to have 2.2, then I say it's for the apps 2 SD, 'cause my internal memory is almost full So I leave it to Dexter to make an awesome 2.2 ROM and count me in as a tester for the rom (-hint- MotoBlur is awesome -hint- )
I mean the phone is slow on 2.1. I thought that they fix it on 2.2. Yah its weird that`s what i thought when i got tjis phone. But my korean friend has a galaxy s. And i played with it. Man! My motoroi was way far than this. Anyway maybe im wrong. Maybe the milestone model was more faster than motoroi.
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I mean the phone is slow on 2.1. I thought that they fix it on 2.2. Yah its weird that`s what i thought when i got tjis phone. But my korean friend has a galaxy s. And i played with it. Man! My motoroi was way far than this. Anyway maybe im wrong. Maybe the milestone model was more faster than motoroi.
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I'm not sure what the issue is. I have my XT720 (NA version) overclocked to 1000mhz on 58 vsel and find it to be quite stable and speedy (I also have JIT installed). My experience that anything over 1000mhz begins to get unstable and you have to jack the vsel way up (more battery usage). Also, replacing the homescreen launcher really helped (Launcher Pro, ADW, etc) because the stock one really kind of sucks.
If my carrier comes out with the Nexus S in March as the rumour is - I might move over to that as I'm sure it will continue to be supported and none of the this 'staying on 2.1' BS will happen. But we'll see if and when my carrier does that...and how much it will cost.
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If my carrier comes out with the Nexus S in March as the rumour is - I might move over to that as I'm sure it will continue to be supported and none of the this 'staying on 2.1' BS will happen. But we'll see if and when my carrier does that...and how much it will cost.
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$700 to $800 CDN
$699.99 at best
now back on topic, the XT720 at 1000 Mhz runs really nice, even on stock 720 Mhz runs good with Launcher PRO or Go Launcher EX
heavy 3D games runs fast, everything else runs great
so i really have no idea of those 3 people that have complained about the phone.
they might have not configured something right
Indeed AllGamer.
The phone is really fast here when overclocked to 800 Mhz or 1000 Mhz. Angry Birds lags somewhat at 800, but at 1000 is runs great. Also HD Video Recording runs the best at 1000 Mhz, but I don't care. Also, I noticed that when HD Video Recording at 1000, the battery doesn't use more than at stock. And 800 also doesn't use more overall.
I really love this phone and I won't be selling it for a long time (and my next one will also be a Motorola, I'm a Motorola-fan for years now, although I had a few other phones though between my previous Motorola and this one).
So people: please configure it right, 'cause this thing is really speedy when overclocked
I have to admit, that my xt720 runs absolutely fine..angry birds and any other game i've tested are totally smooth - only hd-video recording becomes a bit stuttering ( is this correct english? ^^) sometimes. And until now no JIT or apps2sd is installed
Sent from my Milestone XT720 using XDA App
wat nid to imporved in xt720 froyo is:
- camera software (increase img quality)
- custom kernel (enable swap space, prepare for future games)
- greater space for cache (enable installation of battle bears -1.apk)
- stock oc to 1.1ghz (battery life can extended by setcpu)
- DEfy's stock music player
- xda xt720 special bootscreen (required a talented graphic designer)
xt720 ll be perfect..
wrong thread...sorry.
It's possible that the Motoroi is not as stable as the XT720 at 1GHz. The XT720 has a TI OMAP3440 (officially rated 800MHz) and the Motoroi has an TI OMAP3430 (officially rated 600MHz).
Stay away from this phone. The small memoy 256MB is really laggy when you have more than 1 widgets and/or running multiple applications (running overclock at 1000 already). Also, 2.1.... who would want a smartphone that doesnt keep up? Not exactly smart is i?
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Stay away from this phone. The small memoy 256MB is really laggy when you have more than 1 widgets and/or running multiple applications (running overclock at 1000 already). Also, 2.1.... who would want a smartphone that doesnt keep up? Not exactly smart is i?
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Trolling?
Seriously, the memormy may be small, but you're exaggerating here. It's not laggy at all with more than 1 widget and multiple apps open (even w/o overclock). And 2.1, alright, but Dexter is working on the 2.2 port and he's gonna throw out a bèta one of these days. So 2.2 is on it's way and if the kexec crack starts to work good, then we could also have newer android versions later this year. So updates are not a problem for now.
To the TS I'd say: throw away that Wave and get yourself the XT720 It's a really good Android-phone and like AllGamer says: not the top of the line, but it sure can keep up and the camera is really good, hardware too and it just does what it does and that's what a phone needs to do IMHO: do what it does.
But indeed, check the MHz to see if it's compatible.
With JIT, we beat stock Samsung Galaxy. It is unfortunate to be cheated by Motorola, but this phone is a good piece of hardware and sure a head-turner. I have done what Link2SD did, move apks to an "ext3" partition of SD card, and with 1GHz OC, it feels snappy all the way.
I won't recommend someone to buy it new (just because of Moto's stupidity), but if happen to have it, do not regret.
i've been using xt720 for almost 4 months and before that i used milestone, galaxy s and some of LG and sony devices from friends... i can tell u the best touch-screen is in Moto(after apple ofcourse), the hardware is awsome, screen is a REAL scratchresist, the cover is strong and the backside cover is stable + looks classy. software is android as u know and always getting improved(we're about to have froyo from dexter-thnx to him-with all other functions). the speed? it workes so fine withOUT oc. for HD record or even faster actions u can OC it to 1ghz without any problem and even with oc battery life is almost same! besides that, if u turn off all wifi-3g and other web connections and 3d games stop showing ads inside nothing has lags at all!!
if u dont know how to use a new device, dont say bad things about it!
i have samsung galaxy spica (i5700) which has only 168mb of ram and 800mhz processor clock,with several widget its still running well,still has a smooth scrolling,compare with xt720,xt720 device is fastest than samsung spica although its has only 50mb of free ram on system
im just curious to kno when we over clock this phone with temp root ...are we only over clocking one processor? im asking this because I've been reading that gingerbread doesn't even use both cores...and we have to wait until ice cream sandwich for both cores to be used like there supposed to be...I kno some games utilize both cores, but for the most part we only have a "single" core phone?
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I'm interested in underclocking/disabling a core. Seeing how that would play out on battery life.
A post I found online says it nicely:
Right now, the android sdk (2.3) provides no means to use more than one CPU core.
Still, multicore CPUs will increase performance because background processes can use CPU time on the core not being used by the running app.
This also applies to garbage collection (GC) which happens periodically (I guess you can trigger it manually too) whilst an app is running. With more than one core, the GC won't block the app which makes it feel "smoother".
I remember reading about Google's plans to improve multicore-support in android 2.4. It will take some time for existing apps to use it though (like it's happened with desktop applications).
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As you can now see, even though the device is dual core, the OS and any applications won't make -full- use of both cores until they are designed to do so. Just like most applications these days won't utilize a quad core processor on your desktop. You are correct in saying that some games are designed to use both, which is noticeable. I don't see why an overclock wouldn't affect both cores.
By the way, your title is full of fail "Gingerbread only using one core?" would have been more suitable, since the device itself has nothing to do with how the OS utilizes its hardware.
I wonder if within the development here we can actually get that working?
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I wonder if within the development here we can actually get that working?
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Get what working, the overclock on both cores? Or Gingerbread using both cores?
If A: Yes (once S-OFF update comes, or temporarily with Fr3vo until then)
If B: No.
haha I thought about that after I posted..I kno how some pple are on here...easy to flame ya...which is why I don't post often..just read...but thanks for the info...I figured that was the case...can't wait to see what this phone is really capable of....s-off will be here sooner then later
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I'm just curious to know when we over clock this phone with temp root ...are we only over clocking one processor? I'm asking this because I've been reading that gingerbread doesn't even use both cores...and we have to wait until ice cream sandwich for both cores to be used like there supposed to be...I know some games utilize both cores, but for the most part we only have a "single" core phone?
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I agree with you.
It would be nice if both cores ramped up to full speed when even only one is needed.
So in basic terms..
SGSII is a monster of CPU power....
you say its only using 1 core, and SGSII scores about 2-3 times more than our HTC Sensation...
When icecream will be released, the samsung galaxy S ii will socre even higher than our sensation....
I do not think android 2.3 is using one core for sure its using both .( even if the OS doesn't support )
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I do not think android 2.3 is using one core for sure its using both .( even if the OS doesn't support )
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Wait, huh? Are you saying that you think the GS2 is using both cores, and the sensation is only using one? That would completely explain the benchmark scores. Bring on 2.4
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So in basic terms..
SGSII is a monster of CPU power....
you say its only using 1 core, and SGSII scores about 2-3 times more than our HTC Sensation...
When icecream will be released, the samsung galaxy S ii will socre even higher than our sensation....
I do not think android 2.3 is using one core for sure its using both .( even if the OS doesn't support )
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Where did you see a benchmark score where the SGSII is 2-3 times higher than the HTC Sensation?
The only one that I have checked was CF-Bench (which supports dual core) and the SGSII was about 20% higher. Certainly not 200%-300% higher.
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So in basic terms..
SGSII is a monster of CPU power....
you say its only using 1 core, and SGSII scores about 2-3 times more than our HTC Sensation...
When icecream will be released, the samsung galaxy S ii will socre even higher than our sensation....
I do not think android 2.3 is using one core for sure its using both .( even if the OS doesn't support )
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this is gonna be a forever argument between the sensation and the gsII...on paper the sensation has better hardware ..Google it..its all over the forum ...the software is not optimized for the phone.with that being said..neither is the gsII...unless its running honeycomb somehow or ice cream sandwich ...gingerbread its self is the issue...now touchwiz may utilize both cores..im not sure..that may be why the gsII seems way smoother....just wait until this BL is unlocked...this phone will be monster
Do any of you guys remember this: MS update - KB896256?
I remember what that did for my laptop.
Worked real well.
Hello Fellas, i wanna know wich ROM performs better in GAMES, the HO!NO!, the Ice&Fire, The FroyoMOD or Plain Cyanogen 7 ???
All those one, or any other that you know, in their latests versions of course
hope you can help me with that, Cheers
In my opinion 2.1 roms are the best for games and multitasking. Exept they have 30 fps cap. After them the froyo roms.
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Once you go FM you don't look back.
How about Cronos?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252344
In my opinion, FroyoMOD by Luca is the best, stable, with many features and really fast!
that's right. FroyoMod is the best for milestone
Test one ROM each day, and make your own opinnion. I found CM7 the best, as kalbadan does a very good job, and updates the ROM very often.
to me, plain CM7 by kabaldan is the way. Standard, clean and well mantained. Obviously, it's good if you use your phone as a smartphone. If your primary intent is playing games, Froyo is a better choice
Why exactly Froyo is better than CM7 in games? I've played many games, of course there were some FCs, but generally I managed to play NFS Shift fluently, for example. I use Chainfire, as it helps many games to start.
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Why exactly Froyo is better than CM7 in games? I've played many games, of course there were some FCs, but generally I managed to play NFS Shift fluently, for example. I use Chainfire, as it helps many games to start.
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There is much more free RAM in Froyo, as apposed to CM7 (Gingerbread).
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How about Cronos?
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Its rocking!
Unfortunately its no longer part of XDA bkz of some technical & legal problems
Sticked with CM7 supported by kabaldan.
+1 for CM7
I used MIUI us, MIUIandroid, MIUI Galnet, CM6, FroyoMod, CM7 and stock.
The best CM7.
I've tried CM7, MIUI and others but Telus Lite is the best. Light-weight and super stable, it's quite snappy as long as you don't use too heavy apps. And it looks good.
I vote for HO! NO! 7.1.5 . Finally a great stable fully working ROM. Before I be used MIUI and I had stability issues.
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I've tried CM7, MIUI and others but Telus Lite is the best. Light-weight and super stable, it's quite snappy as long as you don't use too heavy apps. And it looks good.
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Telus lite is by far the best rom for the milestone. When i had it i had around 90mb of free ram. Only downside is that there is no flash as it is 2.1
I tried to port the new gmsil client,flash etc but fwiled since the laws of android api wont allow it :L
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I was going to say latest HoNo, but wifi connection doesnt work, which is a huge negative....
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So its between telus lite and HONO. How much free RAM on both? Which one is over clocked? I Don't prefer overcklocking.
i usually feel lag in most of the 3d games like MC3 Fallen nation,nova 2,3 , asphalt 7 bla bla bla,,, and when i see videos on youtube running the same games with neo v , arc, desire HD, they look a lot smoother ,,
why does it lag on my desire s????
are you running stock Rom with sense? It was one of the reasons I rooted mine, solved the lag issue straight away.
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i usually feel lag in most of the 3d games like MC3 Fallen nation,nova 2,3 , asphalt 7 bla bla bla,,, and when i see videos on youtube running the same games with neo v , arc, desire HD, they look a lot smoother ,,
why does it lag on my desire s????
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Well if you're running the rom that's in your signature it's no surprise considering it's using the cm9 kernel which is still in alpha stages. You're not going to get the same performance on a rom that doesn't have the best drivers and optimized kernel compared to the stock gingerbread or stock sense ICS roms such as the incredible s rom that was ported over using our ICS 3.0 sense kernel. If you're using the stock rom then it could be that you're nearly full on memory or you have to many apps running. Those games are really resource heavy games and the desire s is only a 1ghz single core device. In today's standards that's becoming quite poor. But the games shouldn't be lagging too much. You're going to get lag on nova 3 and asphalt 7 because they are brand new so they will be optimized for dual core devices on ICS
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Well if you're running the rom that's in your signature it's no surprise considering it's using the cm9 kernel which is still in alpha stages. You're not going to get the same performance on a rom that doesn't have the best drivers and optimized kernel compared to the stock gingerbread or stock sense ICS roms such as the incredible s rom that was ported over using our ICS 3.0 sense kernel. If you're using the stock rom then it could be that you're nearly full on memory or you have to many apps running. Those games are really resource heavy games and the desire s is only a 1ghz single core device. In today's standards that's becoming quite poor. But the games shouldn't be lagging too much. You're going to get lag on nova 3 and asphalt 7 because they are brand new so they will be optimized for dual core devices on ICS
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I'm running asphalt 7 and nova 3 with no lag whatsoever, ok I'm oc but only to 1250. Don't know why they would lag, only thing I can think of is the sense elements taking ram
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I'm running asphalt 7 and nova 3 with no lag whatsoever, ok I'm oc but only to 1250. Don't know why they would lag, only thing I can think of is the sense elements taking ram
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I must of installed over 20 different roms when I had my desire and I didn't find one that was as "smooth" as the stock rom. Maybe a little bit quicker but not as smooth. I think the main problem could be someones view on what they think is laggy and what they think isn't. There are people out there who think anything less than 50fps is laggy which is ridiculously smooth or people like me who think anything less than about 25fps is laggy. It would help if the Op replied to this thread to let us know what rom he is running
Im running project X
4.0 sense 4 rom. Before i was running ice cold sandwich ,but that was scary ,bcoz my device all ways frozed during running heavy games.
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You should try playing games on the stock Rom then
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jugg1es said:
I'm running asphalt 7 and nova 3 with no lag whatsoever, ok I'm oc but only to 1250. Don't know why they would lag, only thing I can think of is the sense elements taking ram
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what rom r u using?
Currently I'm running codename, and before this blindIce, Blindbean and Reaper. I've avoided all sense Roms like the plague. No offense to the devs just don't like sense anymore.
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Currently I'm running codename, and before this blindIce, Blindbean and Reaper. I've avoided all sense Roms like the plague. No offense to the devs just don't like sense anymore.
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is the rom stable and worth daily use?
codename is a lovely Rom, ok for daily use.been on it since blind uploaded it. A few problems like camera and small issues nothing to stop me using it though.
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codename is a lovely Rom, ok for daily use.been on it since blind uploaded it. A few problems like camera and small issues nothing to stop me using it though.
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is video playback working fine? and can u play games on it?
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is video playback working fine? and can u play games on it?
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at the moment video playback forces restart, but is still only a test port, blindndumb will probably look at it after he's sorted out to build from source
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at the moment video playback forces restart, but is still only a test port, blindndumb will probably look at it after he's sorted out to build from source
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can u play Games on IT?
Yup, batman,nova3,asphalt7 all good.
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