[Q] Is Super CID necessary or optional? - HTC Sensation

I've done a couple forum searches between the General & Q&A section, and I haven't found the answer.
I've already S-off'ed, Rooted, and flashed CWM 5.X. And I'm just wondering if Super CID is necessary after completing these steps.
I'm new to the Sensation/HTC products, so sorry if this is a really noob question.

U do because if u dont it will just limit the number of roms u can flash on ur phone for ex. i use insert coin
nd its based on European sensation nd If I have tmo cid I won't be able to use it
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deol 4ever said:
U do because if u dont it will just limit the number of roms u can flash on ur phone for ex. i use insert coin
nd its based on European sensation nd If I have tmo cid I won't be able to use it
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That's not gonna happen. If you are s-off then you can install any custom rom you like.
I, for example, have Vodafone cid but i flashed insert coin, leedroid and rcmix so far.
You have to change cid only if you want to flash an official HTC RUU to, let's say, a Vodafone branded phone.
So for me Super CID is absolutely optional.

I am very confused about this.
I have not gone with SuperCID; I have CID=TMOB0101. I keep seeing in ROM descriptions "You must have SuperCID", and yet I succeed in installing and running that ROM without SuperCID.
I *am* S-OFF and rooted, of course, and I always make sure that I have the corresponding firmware installed.
I've installed current ROMs that are originating from several different continents, as far as I can tell.
So why do I keep being told that I need to go with SuperCID? It seems pointless.

varxx said:
I am very confused about this.
I have not gone with SuperCID; I have CID=TMOB0101. I keep seeing in ROM descriptions "You must have SuperCID", and yet I succeed in installing and running that ROM without SuperCID.
I *am* S-OFF and rooted, of course, and I always make sure that I have the corresponding firmware installed.
I've installed current ROMs that are originating from several different continents, as far as I can tell.
So why do I keep being told that I need to go with SuperCID? It seems pointless.
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+1 I completely agree with you!...

SuperCID is optional, I think most people will do it as it will allow you to flash any firmware without having to worry if your CID is compatable with the firmware your trying to flash. For example with a vodafone CID you would really only be able to flash vodafone firmware. Although this doesn't cause an issue when flashing a ROM most devs will recommend a certain firmware to be used.
Saying that all the ICS based roms will require a firmware update so it would mean you would have to either edit files within the firmware, SuperCID and now for all those still to worried to SuperCID the guys over at the dev forum have made a nice sticky on firmware updates. HERE without the need to SuperCID

The CID would only limit the capability of flashing Stock Roms from different carriers, for example my CID is BM_001 which stands for Bell Mobile which is the original carrier of the device, if I were to flash a lets say Stock T-Mobile Rom I may encounter some issues. With Super Cid (which changes the CID to 1111111) you open your devices to all other "Carrier Roms"

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[Q] What is superCID (11111111)

what are the benefits of doing super-CID (i.e. 11111111)
If i do superCID can I again restore to stock CID..
Please help
abhishek89 said:
what are the benefits of doing super-CID (i.e. 11111111)
If i do superCID can I again restore to stock CID..
Please help
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Certain things, e.g. RUUs, need to have the correct Carrier ID on the phone in order to install via the bootloader or recovery using the PG58IMG.zip process. The Latest Firmware packs for example are grouped together into sets, this is to allow you to install them if you don't have SuperCID. If you have got SuperCID you can install any of them as all the CID checks pass.
Another reason to change the CID if to allow you to install a generic RUU instead of the one that came with the phone, this allows you to remove the bloatware. For example I'm on Vodafone and I installed the generic Euro RUU purely to get rig of the Vodafone crap that came pre-installed.
The process to change it back is identical to the way you write the SuperCID just using your original CID (mine for example is VODAP001). IIRC HTC__01 is the generic CID
gol_n_dal said:
Certain things, e.g. RUUs, need to have the correct Carrier ID on the phone in order to install via the bootloader or recovery using the PG58IMG.zip process. The Latest Firmware packs for example are grouped together into sets, this is to allow you to install them if you don't have SuperCID. If you have got SuperCID you can install any of them as all the CID checks pass.
Another reason to change the CID if to allow you to install a generic RUU instead of the one that came with the phone, this allows you to remove the bloatware. For example I'm on Vodafone and I installed the generic Euro RUU purely to get rig of the Vodafone crap that came pre-installed.
The process to change it back is identical to the way you write the SuperCID just using your original CID (mine for example is VODAP001). IIRC HTC__01 is the generic CID
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So how do I install roms from different carriers
fatswaller4451 said:
So how do I install roms from different carriers
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first you need to S-OFF then supercid
after that you can use any ruu.exe
Super Cid
rzr86 said:
first you need to S-OFF then supercid
after that you can use any ruu.exe
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Hey thanks for your response
Ok so I have s-off and super Cid just a few more questions if u don't mind
1. can i install any ruu for any android phone or am I limited?
2. Will installing a ruu for another phone effect the way my current phone works
3. When installing a ruu.exe for another phone will I have to follow the same bootloader unlock method for that phone or my phone?
Sorry for the newbie questions but I have limited knowledge of super cid however I have been rooting for years now
I heard some bad things about super cid but have not had any issues thus far, the guide was very easy to follow and in fact just to make sure it was working I was able to ruu backwards
Thanks for your expertise you r awesome
fatswaller4451 said:
Hey thanks for your response
Ok so I have s-off and super Cid just a few more questions if u don't mind
1. can i install any ruu for any android phone or am I limited?
2. Will installing a ruu for another phone effect the way my current phone works
3. When installing a ruu.exe for another phone will I have to follow the same bootloader unlock method for that phone or my phone?
Sorry for the newbie questions but I have limited knowledge of super cid however I have been rooting for years now
I heard some bad things about super cid but have not had any issues thus far, the guide was very easy to follow and in fact just to make sure it was working I was able to ruu backwards
Thanks for your expertise you r awesome
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1)with s-off and supercid you are not limited
2)it won't affect anything at all
But probably you will have some official updates from the specific carrier(if you have)
3)I think it depends from the carrier of the Ruu you have chosen
But actually there is no need to unlock the bootloader because you are on s-off
Edit:in second and third question what do you mean by another phone?
I assume you mean another carrier
If yes then yes
If you mean another device(for example Samsung)then absolutely no
Of course you can use any ruu but only from sensation's devices
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super cid
rzr86 said:
1)with s-off and supercid you are not limited
2)it won't affect anything at all
But probably you will have some official updates from the specific carrier(if you have)
3)I think it depends from the carrier of the Ruu you have chosen
But actually there is no need to unlock the bootloader because you are on s-off
Edit:in second and third question what do you mean by another phone?
I assume you mean another carrier
If yes then yes
If you mean another device(for example Samsung)then absolutely no
Of course you can use any ruu but only from sensation's devices
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So I have verified that I have super cid on my evo 4g lte by ruuing backward, however when I try flashing an htc one ruu i get an error message that its the wrong file, so i tried flashing an original evo 4g ruu and still get the same message
I am still s-off
relocked bootloader
super cid
hboot 2.0.9
latest firmware
am i missing something?
Thanks
fatswaller4451 said:
So I have verified that I have super cid on my evo 4g lte by ruuing backward, however when I try flashing an htc one ruu i get an error message that its the wrong file, so i tried flashing an original evo 4g ruu and still get the same message
I am still s-off
relocked bootloader
super cid
hboot 2.0.9
latest firmware
am i missing something?
Thanks
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wait man man
for which device are we talking about?
not for sensation?
EVO 4g lte
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fatswaller4451 said:
EVO 4g lte
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no maaaaannnnn
don't use any ruu for sensation to evo 4g
go to the evo 4g's thread and see there for ruu.exe files
this forum is only for sensation/xe/4g
i thought you were talking about sensation devices
Ok thanks for the info but I was talking about super cid and installing roms from different carrier's
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I was following a previous thread
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to reduce the confusion
NO- you cant/shouldn't flash another model phone's RUU on another
there is a high chance of bricking the device if you do that
Does SuperCID also network unlocks the phone?
There is a lot of confusion on the internet about SuperCID. I have HTC One S which is locked to T-Mobile and I want to get it network unlocked. the "strings -n 8 /dev/block/mmcblk0p6" method did not show unlock_code for my phone (though it has worked for some other people). While googling I found that doing SuperCID by changing mmcblk0p4 can also network unlock the phone. Please let me know if you have some idea. Thanks.
gol_n_dal said:
Certain things, e.g. RUUs, need to have the correct Carrier ID on the phone in order to install via the bootloader or recovery using the PG58IMG.zip process. The Latest Firmware packs for example are grouped together into sets, this is to allow you to install them if you don't have SuperCID. If you have got SuperCID you can install any of them as all the CID checks pass.
Another reason to change the CID if to allow you to install a generic RUU instead of the one that came with the phone, this allows you to remove the bloatware. For example I'm on Vodafone and I installed the generic Euro RUU purely to get rig of the Vodafone crap that came pre-installed.
The process to change it back is identical to the way you write the SuperCID just using your original CID (mine for example is VODAP001). IIRC HTC__01 is the generic CID
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[Q] confused with the terms.. need help with root

hi..
i am all stranger to HTC world.. i have been using galaxy s, s2 and ace.. things were easier when it came to rooting and flashing custom roms.. or at least there was less terms.. 3 days ago i bougth Sensation XE and since then i have been reading every page but the more i read, the more i get cunfused...
so, what i want is basically trying new kernels, OCing, using apps like setcpu or titanium backup etc.. in order to do these rooting the device was enough with the galaxy devices.. but here there are lots of terms..
here is what i think i understand;
S-off= this means unlocking the NAND part to be re-writable i guess.. the funny part is; i want to root the device and i guess i have to S-off the device but it says in order to S-off the device you must have alredy rooted it? or i am wrong?
Hboot version=i think this is very important since we have to choose the methots according to this... mine is 1.27.0000
super CID= no idea what this is.. but i assume it has no important role on rooting..
and there is the bootloader unlock option= htcdev.com is doing it but they say if i do it my phone is out of warranty.. it is just a 3 day phone and i dont want to lose the warranty... and i also have read some post about it not being a complete unlock.. so any method other then offical HTC ones would be better for not losing the warranty (i am sure even if i lock it back when its necessary, HTC will still have the records of me unlocking my device and wont let me use the warranty) ..
and there is this guide on the development section, it is really helpfull but the date of it tells me it was before ice cream sandwich update and 1.27.0000 hboot version and some of the instructions confirms that... so i guess i need some other method to root my device ... (after everything i am not even sure if the rooting is excatly what i need)
long story for short; i am lost among the terms and instructions.. especially after i tried to S-off my device in order to root and learnt it needed to be rooted first in order to be S-off .....
so please help me with the terms and instructions..
thanks ..
Okay, root is not needed to s off.
S-off disables the security on your bootloader.
Supercid means you can flash any piece of software no matter what area or network it was intended for, as each one has a cid code that restricts the software to the network or countrys phone e.g. unbranded sensations cid is HTC__001 and Vodafone would be VODA__xx. Supercid changes your cid to 11111111 which means everything that is protected by any cid code will work on your phone.
Back to s-off, using revolutionary tool is pretty easy as long as you follow the instructions correctly but will not work on hboot 1.27 so it requires downgrading using an ruu or eng. Hboot 1.17 or finding another method to s off 1.27, once s off using revolutionary all you have to do is flash a custom recovery and then flash superuser and voila your rooted. But you can also s-off, install custom recovery, upgrade firmware to 1.27 and flash a prerooted custom Rom which obviously does the trick. Just make sure to keep a track of what firmware you are on and make sure it works with what your doing and the Rom you're using. Oh and htcdev unlock is not necessary as you can flash a firmware with a unlocked bootloader plus revolutionary also unlocks bootloader. And as far as warranty goes, once s off or bootloader is unlocked your warranty is VOID.
Hope this helps
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FÄ°nally! everything makes sense thanks a lot..
so the first step is to downgrade to a firmware which i can S-off and unlock, then to get back to pre-rooted version of my current firmware..
so i assume just like i can downgrade, S-off and unlock, i also can upgrade, S-on and lock back when i need the warranty?
Almost firmware contains the radio and Hboot etc, to obtain root you just first s off on the downgraded firmware, then upgrade to an unlocked firmware that is for ics. The firmware for ics is 3.32 which contains Hboot 1.27 but of course you cannot s off on this version of Hboot. Then flash a pre rooted ROM once you have gone back to ics firmware using a custom recovery. Once s off, you will not lose it when upgrading to a new firmware. But to s-on is risky but if you manage to do it without semi bricking your phone and then flash a locked bootloader HTC will never know you've voided your warranty as long as your on an unrooted Rom. I will pm you a great link for doing this and explaining as I know this is confusing. I won't post it here because its on another forum.
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this really explains everything.. its just like showing the entire map and also telling the route.. thank you very much, you are the best
No problem if you could hit the thanks button I would greatly appreciate it
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How do you get the ROM from the HTC RUU?

I've read previous threads that instruct to search for rom.zip in the temp folder. I have found the rom.zip but it does not flash using CWM. How do I get the rom which I can flash through CWM?
You don't flash it through cwm, you rename it accordingly (PHxxIMG.zip) based on your phone model and flash it through HBOOT.
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hellhawk741 said:
You don't flash it through cwm, you rename it accordingly (PHxxIMG.zip) based on your phone model and flash it through HBOOT.
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Okay. I do recall my phone searching for similarly named images when I booted the phone to recovery. How exactly am I supposed to flash them after renaming and placing them in the root of my SD Card?
Also, do normal regional restrictions still apply to this process? (Will it bail if I try flashing the phxximg.zip of a European RUU on a asian phone?)
Thanks a lot.
Don't know about the regional restrictions. To flash it you just put the renamed zip in the root of your SD card and reboot into bootloader. It'll scan for the file and ask you to press some key if you want to flash the update. That's it.
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Regional restrictions apply unless you have changed your CID to allow for flashing of other regions ROMs. This is called "SuperCID". I'm not sure which HTC phone you have otherwise I'd link you to how to get it on your phone, but it's a simple google search "SuperCID *phone name*"
When you have SuperCID, it allows the flashing of any ROM by any carrier so if you intend on doing an Asian ROM on a Euro phone, check and make sure the hardware is the same, otherwise you'll bork something.
Example: if you flashed a CDMA EVO 3D ROM on a GSM EVO 3D, you'd likely lose your data, signal at least, given that the CDMA and GSM 3D's have different radios. You'd probably lose even more but the data and signal at least are for sure.
PoorCollegeGuy said:
Regional restrictions apply unless you have changed your CID to allow for flashing of other regions ROMs. This is called "SuperCID". I'm not sure which HTC phone you have otherwise I'd link you to how to get it on your phone, but it's a simple google search "SuperCID *phone name*"
When you have SuperCID, it allows the flashing of any ROM by any carrier so if you intend on doing an Asian ROM on a Euro phone, check and make sure the hardware is the same, otherwise you'll bork something.
Example: if you flashed a CDMA EVO 3D ROM on a GSM EVO 3D, you'd likely lose your data, signal at least, given that the CDMA and GSM 3D's have different radios. You'd probably lose even more but the data and signal at least are for sure.
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Exactly, just got an incorrect CID error. I'm trying to do this on HTC One V. The bootloader is unlocked. Can you please link me to the SuperCID for HTC one V? Is it software or hardware?
Also for this process, do I need to have stock recovery or having CWM won't cause any issue?
Moreover, is it okay if the bootloader is unlocked or do I "relock" it?
PoorCollegeGuy said:
Regional restrictions apply unless you have changed your CID to allow for flashing of other regions ROMs. This is called "SuperCID". I'm not sure which HTC phone you have otherwise I'd link you to how to get it on your phone, but it's a simple google search "SuperCID *phone name*"
When you have SuperCID, it allows the flashing of any ROM by any carrier so if you intend on doing an Asian ROM on a Euro phone, check and make sure the hardware is the same, otherwise you'll bork something.
Example: if you flashed a CDMA EVO 3D ROM on a GSM EVO 3D, you'd likely lose your data, signal at least, given that the CDMA and GSM 3D's have different radios. You'd probably lose even more but the data and signal at least are for sure.
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Can you please post me the link to the SuperCID for HTC One V. Googling didn't help much.
Another very important question, my stock ROM was an Indian one. I rooted and flashed a stock European ROM. Due to this process, do you think the original CID was modified?
abhishek_turbo911 said:
Exactly, just got an incorrect CID error. I'm trying to do this on HTC One V. The bootloader is unlocked. Can you please link me to the SuperCID for HTC one V? Is it software or hardware?
Also for this process, do I need to have stock recovery or having CWM won't cause any issue?
Moreover, is it okay if the bootloader is unlocked or do I "relock" it?
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You'll most likely need to re-lock before flashing the RUU. I haven't heard of a way to get super-cid on the One V yet, but if it's possible you should be able to find it in the HTC One V forums.

[Q] RUU to go back stock

I know there are several threads like this one but I prefer not to write another RUU request while you're answering to another user
So, I got a HTC One S S3 yesterday... I began to unlock it because I wanted to change its CID. I found that in the S3 version the CID can't be changed (still) when I had already installed the TWRP Recovery.
Now I'd like to go back to stock, but there is not a RUU compatible with my device: It has VODAP102 as CID, but the RUU for Vodafone AT here doesn't work. I found the kernel source for the same software version I have in htcdev.com, my question is: is it possible to build a RUU or at least a boot.img from it?
The sources can be found in htcdev /devcenter/downloads (sorry but being new I can't post direct links!), HTC One S as Device, Vodafone as Carrier and UK -
1.11.161.133 as software version. Actually I am in Italy, but the software and kernel version are exactly the same.
Thank you in advance.
Bump to first page and a little addendum:
I've read again all the possibilities I have with this phone, and if I have understood accurately then I'm forced to go back to stock, roms like the ThickDroid seem to require a non-branded CID, but that's the point... it is the CID that's compelling me to maintain this original Vodafone software, otherwise I would have already installed the HTC "basic" rom.
Am I missing something?
Thank you again!
Have you tried looking on HTCRUU.COM?
Check your radio id on the bootloader screen then flash the appropriate ROM
mikejasonsmith said:
Have you tried looking on HTCRUU.COM?
Check your radio id on the bootloader screen then flash the appropriate ROM
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Yes I checked, but they have just unbranded RUUs, here in the forum there's one RUU for Vodafone but the region isn't the same as mine.
I've read that it is possible to flash an OTA update deleting the string that checks the CID - I'll have to take a look about that (moreover, it seems very difficult to find .zip OTA updates for this phone...).
Nevertheless I'd like to find this RUU update too - it is an important option too. So... bump to first page.

Applying RUUs on Unlocked 1.14/2.22 AT&T One X

Before anyone tries to flame me, I've read all of the recent ICS and JB rom threads, as well as most of the generic question threads. I've unlocked, rooted, and flashed several roms before settling on CleanROM so I am not a complete noob. The master q&a thread doesn't cover RUUs much, and people aren't that interested in applying non rootable RUUs, so info on going back to stock on a newer or even older RUU doesn't seem to be widely available. My biggest concern is bricking my phone or losing major functionality, as some people using asian based roms seem to be having reboot and/or wifi issues.
1. Applying a different carriers S4 JB RUU is perfectly safe as long as I relock the boot loader, even with Super-CID.
I've seen conflicting reports of issues with RUUs when you have Super-CID, even with the original shipping RUU and a relocked boot loader. Can someone confirm that using RUUs is safe as long as the boot loader is relocked? What if it isn't relocked? Just an error or a bricked phone?
2. Once you unlock your phone on 1.14, you are stuck with that radio forever unless you apply an RUU or switch to Cyanogenmod.
3. Assuming RUUs are safe, applying a different carriers' RUU on my AT&T One X won't hurt anything. There may be apn issues, but otherwise everything should work (especially the camera and wifi).
Again, I understand that without root, I may not be able to add apns anyway. AT&T at least seems to have blocked the ability on their stock rom; not sure if other carriers do the same.
I really appreciate the help. I have searched, so this is more of a confirmation than anything else. Just trying to avoid bricking my phone and learn something new at the same time.
Tim
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tlazarus said:
Before anyone tries to flame me, I've read all of the recent ICS and JB rom threads, as well as most of the generic question threads. I've unlocked, rooted, and flashed several roms before settling on CleanROM so I am not a complete noob. The master q&a thread doesn't cover RUUs much, and people aren't that interested in applying non rootable RUUs, so info on going back to stock on a newer or even older RUU doesn't seem to be widely available. My biggest concern is bricking my phone or losing major functionality, as some people using asian based roms seem to be having reboot and/or wifi issues.
1. Applying a different carriers S4 JB RUU is perfectly safe as long as I relock the boot loader, even with Super-CID.
I've seen conflicting reports of issues with RUUs when you have Super-CID, even with the original shipping RUU and a relocked boot loader. Can someone confirm that using RUUs is safe as long as the boot loader is relocked? What if it isn't relocked? Just an error or a bricked phone?
2. Once you unlock your phone on 1.14, you are stuck with that radio forever unless you apply an RUU or switch to Cyanogenmod.
3. Assuming RUUs are safe, applying a different carriers' RUU on my AT&T One X won't hurt anything. There may be apn issues, but otherwise everything should work (especially the camera and wifi).
Again, I understand that without root, I may not be able to add apns anyway. AT&T at least seems to have blocked the ability on their stock rom; not sure if other carriers do the same.
I really appreciate the help. I have searched, so this is more of a confirmation than anything else. Just trying to avoid bricking my phone and learn something new at the same time.
Tim
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Im on hboot 1.14, firmware 2.20 att. Unlocked , rooted , flashed Rom. However , I had some problem then decided go back stock.
1. Downloaded ruu2.20 for att
2. Relock bootloader
3. Boot phone to bootloader mode then run ruu. Now my phone is stock
P/s :
- you don't need to root your phone to add apn . I can add T-Mobile apn just fine after I flashed ruu.
- ruu.exe can't run if you bootloader is unlocked.
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tritran18518 said:
Im on hboot 1.14, firmware 2.20 att. Unlocked , rooted , flashed Rom. However , I had some problem then decided go back stock.
1. Downloaded ruu2.20 for att
2. Relock bootloader
3. Boot phone to bootloader mode then run ruu. Now my phone is stock
P/s : you don't need to root your phone to add apn .
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Thanks - that answers my RUU questions as far as going back to stock using RUUs. I assume the same applies to other carrier's RUUs, i.e. Telus/Asia. What about using an OTA on a phone with Super-CID?
redpoint73 said:
A factory reset or running the RUU will not change the CID.
SuperCID doesn't prevent you from getting the AT&T OTA (although root and unlocked bootloader will).
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^^
jiggamanjb said:
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Okay, I think that answers my questions. No problems with using a RUU, AT&T or otherwise, as long as it is for the XL. Stuck on my current radio unless I use a RUU. And I need to relock my bootloader before applying a RUU, although I can unlock it after. I will lose root, however. Thanks!

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