Database Info

New to Verizon/Thunderbolt.

Hello everyone! New guy here to Verizon, and the Thunderbolt. I was with T-Mobile till the BIG news break of the day about AT&T buying out T-Mobile. I refuse to give AT&T money, so I jumped ship and joined Verizon.
Simple question really....
Anything that I really need to know about Verizon in general, and/or how they work with their customers?
Thanks!
Will.

I personally have never had any problem. Always been a great experience with VZW for me.

I moved to Verizon from AT&T and have gotten far superior service. I have gone onto their site and chatted live with folks about things that are really odd and they've been willing to go out of their way to answer the questions I've had. Additionally, as I do work in smartphone security and one of my malware simulations was worried VZW would have issue with it... so went to a store and they took the time to look through the contract and make sure I wouldn't violate any policies with me. I have found them to be a significant improvement over AT&T.
So yeah great experience & great customer service. Plus the quality of network is the best I've been on yet. And can't wait to get on the Verizon 4G LTE network later this week.

g00s3y said:
I personally have never had any problem. Always been a great experience with VZW for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1!
10 char

javawolfpack said:
So yeah great experience & great customer service. Plus the quality of network is the best I've been on yet. And can't wait to get on the Verizon 4G LTE network later this week.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh yeah, 4G LTE is blazingly fast

g00s3y said:
Oh yeah, 4G LTE is blazingly fast
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's why I paid full retail to get a ThunderBolt as after seeing the speeds and no additional cost for the service couldn't convince myself not to And the sales associates were very helpful to double check that I wouldn't loose any of my current upgrade dates/promotions down the line.

Thanks for the quick replies guys.

Yeah it's been great..ex t-mobile customer here as well. Just one bit of warning, watch out for the first bill!

ram130 said:
Yeah it's been great..ex t-mobile customer here as well. Just one bit of warning, watch out for the first bill!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh god, what am I looking at?

I loved TMobile for their competitive rates and awesome customer service.
Since switching to Verizon I have had superior coverage and I have had a great customer experience. My sales rep pampered me when I purchased the TB and started a new family plan.
Thus far, I have received awesome service. Maybe it is new customer treatment or maybe it is because I have a nice corporate discount plan. Either way, I am happy!

Can you tether the TB once rooted or does verizon sniff around and cut you off or send a text that your not allowed to tether?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

bmcclure937 said:
I loved TMobile for their competitive rates and awesome customer service.
Since switching to Verizon I have had superior coverage and I have had a great customer experience. My sales rep pampered me when I purchased the TB and started a new family plan.
Thus far, I have received awesome service. Maybe it is new customer treatment or maybe it is because I have a nice corporate discount plan. Either way, I am happy!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep basically my experience since November..just wish I had waited a few months..really wanted the TB ..
WilliamStern said:
Oh god, what am I looking at?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just a pro rated, higher than usual bill...try not to use your phone too much (like texting, calls) if you have a low mins/voice plan until the first billing cycle is over....after that it's smooth sailing from there..then again your exeperience might be different..
anyways don't let that stop u! go get your TB!

ddgarcia05 said:
Can you tether the TB once rooted or does verizon sniff around and cut you off or send a text that your not allowed to tether?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes you can and no they won't ..from my experience.

Question about the TB. Anyone getting a slight delay when rotating the phone, lets say when you want to text, or browse the web?

ddgarcia05 said:
Can you tether the TB once rooted or does verizon sniff around and cut you off or send a text that your not allowed to tether?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This has only been on AT&T to my knowledge so far and only for iPhone users using the MiFi app on their jailbroken iPhones. From what I understand about the way wifi tether works on rooted phones ties it into the underlying architecture so it looks like native traffic. And I'm pretty sure the methods for detecting if your tethered under this approach will make it tough to near impossible for them to detect; however, they could take the classic ISP approach of network shaping/throttling if you seem to be using more bandwidth than they want you to.
But even on the Verizon iPhone so far no issues w/ this from Verizon. Might be that the population of people who choose to jailbreak/root in comparison to the number of users is so small that they don't see enough of a loss to have them want to spend the cost of spending their time/money to track down these users yet.

Thanks for making this thread because I also jumped from ATT to V with two Thunderbolts for my wife and I. They should be here tomorrow.
It will be our first time on Verizon, and our first smartphones. We are finally joining the 21st century. Hhah.

ram130 said:
Just a pro rated, higher than usual bill...try not to use your phone too much (like texting, calls) if you have a low mins/voice plan until the first billing cycle is over....after that it's smooth sailing from there..then again your exeperience might be different..
anyways don't let that stop u! go get your TB!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, I'm good. I went with an unlimited plan.

Wow! We are in the exact same boat. Once I found out about the sale I jumped ship as well. I ordered on amazon tonight and will get the phone cheaper but I'll have to wait til its back in stock.
I currently use a G2 on TMO and I love it, never had a problem until todays news came out. AT&T will NEVER get anything from me again, I was with them once a few years back and it was horrible!
Anyways, From one former TMO customer switching to VZW to another, enjoy man! I know I will. Went in store today for a demo. This phone looks awesome!
On a side note, any TB users use Slingbox? With the 4G speeds how reliable is it? And how is the quality? I normally only watch over WiFi or at my comp at work.
WilliamStern said:
Hello everyone! New guy here to Verizon, and the Thunderbolt. I was with T-Mobile till the BIG news break of the day about AT&T buying out T-Mobile. I refuse to give AT&T money, so I jumped ship and joined Verizon.
Simple question really....
Anything that I really need to know about Verizon in general, and/or how they work with their customers?
Thanks!
Will.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my T-Mobile HTC G2 using XDA Premium App

All I got to say is you guys are lucky! I'm stuck with my DX until I can get an upgrade next year ..I was thinking of selling it on craiglist for $300 with a few extra cases but not sure how I will get the other $200 for the TB lol...

ddgarcia05 said:
Can you tether the TB once rooted or does verizon sniff around and cut you off or send a text that your not allowed to tether?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol before switching from sprint to verizon, since sprint doesn't care what you do data wise, i asked verizon this in a round about way. They said they could careless how much you use. Which makes sense when you have a device pulling at times near 30Mbps down, (got that speed a few times today) you are bound to use a crapton of data. I have only had the phone 24 hoursish, and I already have a gig of data used...lol...

Glad I canceled T-Mobile - Too ignorant for my business

Although I enjoyed the data speed of T-Mobile, I am glad I am no longer paying a charge to them. This business with their future phones is a sign of how un-serious they take their consumer business. And because of that, they do deserve the lack of business their decisions will cause.
Not producing phones that will fully function of AT&T's 3G/4G service is just pure willy-nilly ignorant and T-Mobile needs to feel the heat of their ignorance. The so-called "super phone" coming to T-Mobile, the HTC Sensation, will be a no-seller because of how T-Mobile chooses to conduct their business.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/27/t-mobile-g2x-lacks-quadband-hspa-shatters-dreams/

Interesting. i wonder what they do when and if the merger goes through, what then ? do they run to platforms and try to merge over 2 years ? That will totally toast them in business and will lower market share........... Yeah..... What is their plan ?

Yea, I'm thinking of switching back to AT&T as well. Will get a phone that works as long as I need it to, and much better network coverage. Data speeds aren't that big a deal to me, as long as it's around 2mbps download 1mbps up I'm more than content...
And I can still get a 4GB data plan with an iPhone if I go back...

Not too concerned here. 2 of my 3 t-mobile devices fully support at&t's 3g and 4g bands. Just my hd2 will need to be replaced, and that's years away. Not worried.
edit: And phones are planned many months if not a year (or more) in advance. The at&t - t-mobile merger most likely wasn't even in the outlook when they made that phone in the first place.

MartyLK said:
Not producing phones that will fully function of AT&T's 3G/4G service is just pure willy-nilly ignorant...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, that's assuming that the merger goes through.
And even if it does, it's not T-Mobile themselves who produce the phones, they can only buy what the manufacturers are selling.
Plus you seem to be confusing ignorance with short-sightedness.

MOD EDIT :Keep cool, no need to be rude.

TheMan42 said:
The only ignorance here is your post.
Sent from my G2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
Why would you invest extra money into adding a whole new radio into a handset if there is no garuntee that the merger will go through? The next complaint/answer would be "tmo's handsets are sooo needlesly expensive". Probably because someone thought it was a good idea to put unecassary hardware in a phone you probably wont even remember when (if?) the merger goes through.
I get calls like this all the time, if the service doesnt work for you i completely understand- Please find another service because getting the same whiney call day in and day out costs t mobile that much more money keeping an unhappy customer.
Let me be clear id rather handle 10000 calls about our coverage and service then silly reasons like this, you dont need to justify your reason to leave a carrier.. just leave.

TheMan42 said:
MOD EDIT :Keep cool, no need to be rude.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To be honest, that came off a little strong, but I still feel it was justified. The Original post should be re-read, then see what was more flame-bait. My statement was the truth, it was "ignorant". Ignorance isn't an insult, its simply stating the the post has no merit into what T-Mobile is doing with their products.
T-Mobile still remains a competitor to AT&T, why would they start to have manufacturers incorporate further frequencies in their devices that support the competitors products? I don't see AT&T doing that with their products, nor Verizon or Sprint.

Interesting. And maybe of interest to me. Someone from t mobile has been hard on my heels to switch from sprint to t mobile. She countered every advantage i thought sprint had: pricewise, 4g coverage etc. If I did not switch yet, cause I am a creature of habits and stick to sprint cause: it is what I started with.
mikzfan

TheMan42 said:
To be honest, that came off a little strong, but I still feel it was justified. The Original post should be re-read, then see what was more flame-bait. My statement was the truth, it was "ignorant". Ignorance isn't an insult, its simply stating the the post has no merit into what T-Mobile is doing with their products.
T-Mobile still remains a competitor to AT&T, why would they start to have manufacturers incorporate further frequencies in their devices that support the competitors products? I don't see AT&T doing that with their products, nor Verizon or Sprint.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually Sprint and Verizon both work on the same 2 frequencies. We're allowed to roam on Verizon as much as we want, included in the plan (there's no hard limit, but don't overuse it), and Verizon customers get to roam on Sprint.

AT&T will become the only GSM phone provider in california when this takes place.

Not surprise one bit. T-MobileUS is notorious for false advertising or even intended false advertising on a bunch of their handsets. How can you trust a company who intentionally commercialized the whole "4G" craze by simply stating that actual 4G infrastructure wasn't worth it and HSPA+ was more than just enough? Good thing they got bought out.

KevGer said:
Hey there everyone if you would like to save money off a new contract with T-Mobile, Att, Sprint, or Verizon email me at [email protected]
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please stop spamming
Sent from my Droid Bionic using XDA Premium App

att is gay

they got bought out by another whack provider though

T-Mobile is just as crap here in The Netherlands aswell, I'm glad I have Vodafone!

been loving verizon since i switched from t mobile

What do you guys think of the AT&T/Tmobile Merger?

Do you guys think AT&T and Tmobile Merger will get approved by the Senate?

F***!!!!!! ATT

I will be moving to Sprint if this does go through... I left ATT for a reason...

I will be gone the day my grandfathered plan expires. I refuse to pay $100 more a month for less services. Why would any sane person do that?
I guess it will be back to sprint....

If it goes through im going back to sprint or boost, I refuse to pay att for any media services

Didn't ATT announce that existing T-Mobile customers will be able to keep their existing plans for as long as they want and still benefit from ATT's network and phone selection?
Pretty sure I read that this is a big point they will be making in front of the Senate.

Unless you want to upgrade your phone ever.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

Yeah what he said... if the merger means there will still be 2 companies, I'm down. But when has that ever happened. I been with tmo before they were tmo
... remember voicestream ? Once att gobles up tmo say buh by to decent customer service and decent rates... if I can't keep my plan indefinitely ... ill be heading to Verizon. **** sprint.
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me.... "

Senate has nothing to say - FTC and Justice department. And even if they disapprove, Courts could can overturn ruling - they have done so with other anti-competitive mergers.

Hate ATT customer service!!! Do not want the merger to take place any time soon or ever! 100% against it!!!!

I will leave if it gets approved.

I liked AT&T. I left AT&T because even with full bars at my house, you can't make a call. Even if you can, the call would be dropped before you can finish it.
My GF has AT&T and her phone does the same thing. My neighbors have AT&T and they do they same thing. Even friends on AT&T that visit my house say the same thing.
The sad part is that it isn't just at my house, it's everywhere. Tmobile may not have great service everywhere, but it works where it should and I hardly get disconnected.
I don't mind AT&T because I travel across the US and I found that AT&T pretty much covers me better then Tmobile and they have pretty decent 3G coverage even between cities where Tmobile is GPRS only (not even EDGE).
My feelings toward the merger can go 2 ways:
First, I would not mind AT&T so much IF/WHEN they merge, they allow AT&T customers to use the great Tmobile signal found at my house... or keep the companies separate but allow access to all the GSM signals. Basically the best of both worlds. Like having access to both Tmobile and AT&T networks.
Second, they bring over the Even More Plus plans where you can have your own device and have a lower monthly bill, which makes sense. A part of the monthly bill pays for the big discounts you get off the phones you buy them on contract. If you don't buy their equipment, why would anyone be forced to pay for a discount they never got? I really like the EMP plans and I think they are awesome.
Lastly, they don't rape my bill. $30 a month for internet is INSANE!!!! Plus don't advertise $79 a month plans* (*requires a $30 data plan). WTF is that? It a plan REQUIRES something, then it should all be included in the price. The math should be $109 a month, which is too damn expensive.
I'm actually really happy with $59 1000 minutes unlimited everything else (less a 5gb cap).
That is reasonable and a good deal.

Will switch to VZW if merger happened.

mightywonton said:
Do you guys think AT&T and Tmobile Merger will get approved by the Senate?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Senate doesn't approve or disapprove the sale. The FCC and the DOJ have the power in this. One of the closing off the cuff comments from one of the Senators was that he figured the sale would be approved with stipulations as has been speculated all along. We are not many years from a two carrier system...Sprint will never survive against the two behemoths.

I just read a cent article saying its gonna take up to 12 months to evaluate the deal and most of the senate is against it so I doubt it will be approved. If it gets approved that means that there will only be one GSM carrier in the US and consumers will not have a choice but to go with ATT if they want GSM so I dont see how the FCC will approve that.

maciek82 said:
Didn't ATT announce that existing T-Mobile customers will be able to keep their existing plans for as long as they want and still benefit from ATT's network and phone selection?
Pretty sure I read that this is a big point they will be making in front of the Senate.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They are playing nice right now because they are trying to get the deal approved. Do you think that the deal would get approved if ATT was out right saying they were going raise the rates on 50 million ppl? Probably not.
In turn if you own a company and you had 50 million ppl you could raise the rates up 20+ dollars why wouldn't you? Its all about the $$$$$$$$

johnnyp500 said:
I just read a cent article saying its gonna take up to 12 months to evaluate the deal and most of the senate is against it so I doubt it will be approved. If it gets approved that means that there will only be one GSM carrier in the US and consumers will not have a choice but to go with ATT if they want GSM so I dont see how the FCC will approve that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Again, the Senate doesn't matter in the big scheme of things. And the same folks that will decide this sale approved the XM-Sirius merger which resulted in ONE satelite radio provider.
The vast majority of folks could care less if they have GSM or CDMA or TDMA or ABCD or whatever...they want good signal with cheap prices.

I hate to see it and say it, and it will probably take a while, but its going to get approved. AT&T will probably have to make some concessions, but in the end it will go through.

bluemoon737 said:
Again, the Senate doesn't matter in the big scheme of things. And the same folks that will decide this sale approved the XM-Sirius merger which resulted in ONE satelite radio provider.
The vast majority of folks could care less if they have GSM or CDMA or TDMA or ABCD or whatever...they want good signal with cheap prices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cent = cnet
Im sorry but I disagree with you. Those who travel internationally and use different sim cards in different countries want a global phone and want to choose a gsm network. There are many people like that and it is only fair that they have a choice between at least 2 carriers

jcbofkc said:
I will be gone the day my grandfathered plan expires. I refuse to pay $100 more a month for less services. Why would any sane person do that?
I guess it will be back to sprint....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App

AT&T/T-Mobile merger confirmed???

Just saw a commercial for AT&T where they are literally saying they will have more cell sights once they merge with T-Mobile. I thought this was still in the approval stage??? So was this finally approved? If so, this is really gonna suck!
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

It's not confirmed but basically...
It's not confirmed but basically... it's looking like the merger is going to go through... they just jumped the gun, but for good reason the only real opposition they face is Sprint but one company probably won't be enough to mess up the merger, and it may not suck. If they want to keep customers, they have to maintain the quality that people are used to from both companies when they merge them. At first it's gonna be a mess but I think in the long run it's a good thing.

gguy1 said:
It's not confirmed but basically... it's looking like the merger is going to go through... they just jumped the gun, but for good reason the only real opposition they face is Sprint but one company probably won't be enough to mess up the merger, and it may not suck. If they want to keep customers, they have to maintain the quality that people are used to from both companies when they merge them. At first it's gonna be a mess but I think in the long run it's a good thing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
History doesn't support one company owning 80% of a market being a good thing for consumers.

samnada said:
History doesn't support one company owning 80% of a market being a good thing for consumers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+ 1.
Basically, we are about to be stuck between a biopolly as our choice. Sprint is too small to be on the same field as Verizon and at&t-mobile.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

samnada said:
History doesn't support one company owning 80% of a market being a good thing for consumers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+ 1
gguy1 said:
It's not confirmed but basically... it's looking like the merger is going to go through... they just jumped the gun, but for good reason the only real opposition they face is Sprint but one company probably won't be enough to mess up the merger, and it may not suck. If they want to keep customers, they have to maintain the quality that people are used to from both companies when they merge them. At first it's gonna be a mess but I think in the long run it's a good thing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also it's not about one company standing in the way. It's about the federal government, the FCC approving the deal. It's about everyday people playing their parts and writing to their congressman and to their senators as I have to tell them that we don't need or want this merger.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

I say suck because I remember when I went through the Cingular to AT&T merger and I was treated like dirt. T-Mobile is one if the last companies I actually don't mind paying every month because of the stellar customer service they provide, and the amazing plan I have. That super limited data plan new iPhone customers get with AT&T is a joke. I am praying for the best, but expecting the worse. Strap in, here we go folks!!
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

I really hope that if this does happen we dont have the same awful data plans as the iphone 4. Thats one of the main reasons i didnt go with att.

Face the facts t-mobile is bought and it is what it is don't give me that there not junk call t-mobile if u don't believe it. I called corporate they say bought and will be finalized by the end of the year, they will honor or contracts til there up.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

I have been a t-mo customer and I love the service. When this happens it's going to HUGE change for the current t-mo customers. We as current t-mo customers are not going to be happy.

You have to realize, AT&T didn't force T-Mobile in to this deal. Deutsche Telekom sold T-Mobile U.S. because they didn't have the cash to make it competitive and it was under performing financially. And the deal is officially done. It can become undone if it doesn't get U.S. approval but until and unless that happens both companies are preceding toward closing the deal. I'll bet you too that when T-Mobile discloses their Q2 numbers they're going to be bloody. Q1 was awful and that was with no impact from the merger announcement. Q2's results will help justify the need for the merger and most likely accelerate its approval.
http://www.slashgear.com/t-mobile-u...-as-nearly-1m-subscribers-jump-ship-06150649/

SIGH. I'm contract FREE with tmobile right now. Now undecided whether to run in and get a contract, so I at least have two years locked pricing, or whether I'm going to stand by my previous conviction that I'd never give AT&T any of my hard earned money. At least if I grab a tmobile contract, I can feel like I'm screwing AT&T by paying less for a while. Then I can jump ship once my contract is over.

TMOUS would probably just sell to someone else if the ATT merger was denied or go out of business.
I don't understand why people are so against the merger really. I am happy with TMOUS but understand if they are not profitable enough to survive.
If there is a budget market out there I'm sure some other company will fill in the spot that TMOUS leaves open. If not then it was pretty obvious they they did the right thing.
Its no different that Cable TV companies. Survival of the fittest.

samnada said:
History doesn't support one company owning 80% of a market being a good thing for consumers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your right but the government wouldn't allow that... from what I'm seeing the merger is going to go through, and the infrastructure of t-mobile will split up in some way. The end game for ATT is to acquire all or at the least most of t-mobile cell towers.
The fact is they can make it happen without monopolizing the industry because at the end of the day only certain states are at risk of monopolization.
ATT is not stupidly investing billions of dollars into attempting this merger when they know full well that their major problem preventing them from being okay'd is the fear of monopolization.
When I say Sprint is their major opposition I am stating that they are the ones highlighting the other downfalls besides monopolization

jettrue said:
SIGH. I'm contract FREE with tmobile right now. Now undecided whether to run in and get a contract, so I at least have two years locked pricing, or whether I'm going to stand by my previous conviction that I'd never give AT&T any of my hard earned money. At least if I grab a tmobile contract, I can feel like I'm screwing AT&T by paying less for a while. Then I can jump ship once my contract is over.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea that's probably a good idea. especially if you know for a fact that you can handle the current prices, because when things go through it may get worse or better, I'm highly doubting it will get better though. I would wait at least a year to lock anything in, it's gonna take at least 1 year to 1 and 1/2 before ATT can mess up tmobile rates on plans.

gguy1 said:
When I say Sprint is their major opposition I am stating that they are the ones highlighting the other downfalls besides monopolization
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They also have a lot to gain if the AT&T merger doesn't get approved. They'd be able to buy T-Mobile for a lot less than $39B and they would. Their motive for scuttling the merger isn't because they're concerned about the little people. Once a company's "in play," which T-Mobile is, things can never go back to the way they were. Try to imagine a Sprint/T-Mobile merger with CDMA, Wi-MAX, and GSM. Not pretty.

jettrue said:
SIGH. I'm contract FREE with tmobile right now. Now undecided whether to run in and get a contract, so I at least have two years locked pricing, or whether I'm going to stand by my previous conviction that I'd never give AT&T any of my hard earned money. At least if I grab a tmobile contract, I can feel like I'm screwing AT&T by paying less for a while. Then I can jump ship once my contract is over.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did get a new contract with the Sensations and am undecided if I'll stay. It will be difficult paying AT&T anything, even on a lower rate plan. I still have the unlimited data at $25.
It will be interesting to see how AT&T responds to us with contracts.

BarryH_GEG said:
They also have a lot to gain if the AT&T merger doesn't get approved. They'd be able to buy T-Mobile for a lot less than $39B and they would. Their motive for scuttling the merger isn't because they're concerned about the little people. Once a company's "in play," which T-Mobile is, things can never go back to the way they were. Try to imagine a Sprint/T-Mobile merger with CDMA, Wi-MAX, and GSM. Not pretty.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea exactly but that's almost always the case with business... But for them to be successful even with their selfish motives they have to bring legit reasons to the table why it shouldn't go through
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

strath said:
I did get a new contract with the Sensations and am undecided if I'll stay. It will be difficult paying AT&T anything, even on a lower rate plan. I still have the unlimited data at $25.
It will be interesting to see how AT&T responds to us with contracts.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Anyone requiring a GSM phone can't expect to be treated well if/when this merger happens. I'm in that boat, it's sinking and the sharks are circling...

strath said:
I did get a new contract with the Sensations and am undecided if I'll stay. It will be difficult paying AT&T anything, even on a lower rate plan. I still have the unlimited data at $25.
It will be interesting to see how AT&T responds to us with contracts.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you got it now then most likely your contract will be up right around the time that Att gets full control over t-mobile... So it shouldn't be too painful for you... But you also have to ask yourself what's the better option... Verizon is probably the only choice but their rates are higher... They do have better quality connection on average though... It's a tuff decision man
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

the merging will go through no doubt about it but it's not confirmed publicly yet till next year.got this info from t-mobile corporate master dealers.lots of changes took place in t-mobile since afet the merging possibility news and still changing as we speak.

AT&T ends it's bid for Tmous...

just got the breaking news from CNN...
so I guess Tmous willl be Tmous.
makes me happy since I like Tmous as it is and did not want to be with AT&T.

I was kind of looking forward to the synergies that would have gone into effect (better service or whatever), and thought that they could finally start competing with Verizon in terms of carrier ranking. It's a pity their asset sales deal went cold.

i read something on this a couple months ago, wasnt from CNN though. i was extremly happy though!!! i hate att, their packaging sucks, customer supper, phones are not as good looking either lol. and i hate their plans

stratax said:
i read something on this a couple months ago, wasnt from CNN though. i was extremly happy though!!! i hate att, their packaging sucks, customer supper, phones are not as good looking either lol. and i hate their plans
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what are you talking about do you follow new lol if it wasnt for tmob att would never have 50$ unlimited all
hell i unlocked my phone if tmob dont get it together will just drop them and go att
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ans/pyg-cell-phone-plans.jsp?_requestid=79200

I knew that would happen..

stratax said:
i read something on this a couple months ago, wasnt from CNN though. i was extremly happy though!!! i hate att, their packaging sucks, customer supper, phones are not as good looking either lol. and i hate their plans
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The part you heard was the Justice Department suing to stop the merger. More recently, the FCC also threatened to block the merger (back around Thanksgiving), noting that the deal would decrease competition in 99 out of 100 markets the FCC evaluated (the 1 remaining was Omaha, where T-mobile doesn't officially have a market presence, though oddly enough they do have a few cell towers there and you can get coverage.)
All those previous news articles, though, didn't mean the merger was off; it just meant that, for the first time in over a decade regulators actually decided to not just roll over and let a monopoly have its way. This is different; this is AT&T officially calling off the merger and agreeing to pay T-mobile the breakup fee.
This is great news for US cellular customers, as we still have our low-cost, more-open-than-anyone-else-in-the-US national competitor around, and with a nice cash windfall to boot. It's a little bittersweet, though, because Verizon just snuck in and bought out the last of the readily-available wireless spectrum from the cable companies, meaning that, should that buyout be approved, T-mobile no longer has a really good path to rolling out an LTE network.
So, in the short term it's an awesome deal for T-mobile and for US customers. In the long run it really depends on T-mobile pulling an LTE network out of its hat, and that's going to be hard to do now that the nearly all of the good wireless spectrum licenses are gobbled up by the Big Three.

Hope Google makes a move for T-MO
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium

Five0nIt said:
Hope Google makes a move for T-MO
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They can't anymore; they own Motorola now, and the FCC has been very clear that carriers can't manufacture phones. And for good reason: if they hadn't imposed that rule in the 70s we'd still have a grand total of three wired handsets on the market (the ones offered by AT&T) and no cell phones, modems, fax machines, etc. If the FCC didn't approve AT&T&T-mobile, there's no way they'd approve Google&Motorola&T-mobile.
It's a shame, too. It seems obvious that Google was looking to buy a US wireless carrier, given their rush to buy up dark fiber and the small pilot project offering 1 Gbps internet to Kansas City. The obvious choice would be the relatively small carrier that was open enough to innovation to host the very first Android phone. Unfortunately they needed a patent portfolio to defend Android against Apple and Microsoft's lawsuit barrage, and Motorola basically held itself hostage, forcing Google to buy the whole company, rather than just the patents it wanted.

Five0nIt said:
Hope Google makes a move for T-MO
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 that would be sweet and it's great to see the users win this no-merge!

TheEyes said:
They can't anymore; they own Motorola now, and the FCC has been very clear that carriers can't manufacture phones. And for good reason: if they hadn't imposed that rule in the 70s we'd still have a grand total of three wired handsets on the market (the ones offered by AT&T) and no cell phones, modems, fax machines, etc. If the FCC didn't approve AT&T&T-mobile, there's no way they'd approve Google&Motorola&T-mobile.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your right, I forgot they bought moto
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium

TheEyes said:
They can't anymore; they own Motorola now, and the FCC has been very clear that carriers can't manufacture phones. And for good reason: if they hadn't imposed that rule in the 70s we'd still have a grand total of three wired handsets on the market (the ones offered by AT&T) and no cell phones, modems, fax machines, etc. If the FCC didn't approve AT&T&T-mobile, there's no way they'd approve Google&Motorola&T-mobile.
It's a shame, too. It seems obvious that Google was looking to buy a US wireless carrier, given their rush to buy up dark fiber and the small pilot project offering 1 Gbps internet to Kansas City. The obvious choice would be the relatively small carrier that was open enough to innovation to host the very first Android phone. Unfortunately they needed a patent portfolio to defend Android against Apple and Microsoft's lawsuit barrage, and Motorola basically held itself hostage, forcing Google to buy the whole company, rather than just the patents it wanted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
they can in a couple years..

I was soooo happy when I heard this today! I f*ckin hate At&t. I have a friend that works for At&t and he even hates their cell service and its free for him! They are overpriced and I'm sure we would have gotten dicked as tmobile customers if the buyout would have went through.

big fancy said:
I was soooo happy when I heard this today! I f*ckin hate At&t. I have a friend that works for At&t and he even hates their cell service and its free for him! They are overpriced and I'm sure we would have gotten dicked as tmobile customers if the buyout would have went through.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For sure, just ask any former Cingular wireless customers.

craven667 said:
what are you talking about do you follow new lol if it wasnt for tmob att would never have 50$ unlimited all
hell i unlocked my phone if tmob dont get it together will just drop them and go att
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ans/pyg-cell-phone-plans.jsp?_requestid=79200
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well i say that because i pay $15 a month for texting, i dont think you can do that with att. all my friends with att are paying a **** ton, all my friends with tmo (not much lol) arent really even with data

nrvnqsrxk said:
I was kind of looking forward to the synergies that would have gone into effect (better service or whatever), and thought that they could finally start competing with Verizon in terms of carrier ranking. It's a pity their asset sales deal went cold.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why do you think that would have made things better? Just curious, but IMO ATT would not have kept Tmo the same, if nothing else I'm sure they would have raised the rates on everything.

kingston73 said:
Why do you think that would have made things better? Just curious, but IMO ATT would not have kept Tmo the same, if nothing else I'm sure they would have raised the rates on everything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think price hikes would occur if your plan was grandfathered. And we would benefit from additional UTMS service coverage. It's a good thing that AT&T is required to pay TMOUS 3 Billion as breakup fee, as well as increased service in 20 different areas.
7 Year UMTS Deal & 3B Breakup Fee by AT&T