New to Verizon/Thunderbolt. - Thunderbolt General

Hello everyone! New guy here to Verizon, and the Thunderbolt. I was with T-Mobile till the BIG news break of the day about AT&T buying out T-Mobile. I refuse to give AT&T money, so I jumped ship and joined Verizon.
Simple question really....
Anything that I really need to know about Verizon in general, and/or how they work with their customers?
Thanks!
Will.

I personally have never had any problem. Always been a great experience with VZW for me.

I moved to Verizon from AT&T and have gotten far superior service. I have gone onto their site and chatted live with folks about things that are really odd and they've been willing to go out of their way to answer the questions I've had. Additionally, as I do work in smartphone security and one of my malware simulations was worried VZW would have issue with it... so went to a store and they took the time to look through the contract and make sure I wouldn't violate any policies with me. I have found them to be a significant improvement over AT&T.
So yeah great experience & great customer service. Plus the quality of network is the best I've been on yet. And can't wait to get on the Verizon 4G LTE network later this week.

g00s3y said:
I personally have never had any problem. Always been a great experience with VZW for me.
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+1!
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javawolfpack said:
So yeah great experience & great customer service. Plus the quality of network is the best I've been on yet. And can't wait to get on the Verizon 4G LTE network later this week.
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Oh yeah, 4G LTE is blazingly fast

g00s3y said:
Oh yeah, 4G LTE is blazingly fast
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That's why I paid full retail to get a ThunderBolt as after seeing the speeds and no additional cost for the service couldn't convince myself not to And the sales associates were very helpful to double check that I wouldn't loose any of my current upgrade dates/promotions down the line.

Thanks for the quick replies guys.

Yeah it's been great..ex t-mobile customer here as well. Just one bit of warning, watch out for the first bill!

ram130 said:
Yeah it's been great..ex t-mobile customer here as well. Just one bit of warning, watch out for the first bill!
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Oh god, what am I looking at?

I loved TMobile for their competitive rates and awesome customer service.
Since switching to Verizon I have had superior coverage and I have had a great customer experience. My sales rep pampered me when I purchased the TB and started a new family plan.
Thus far, I have received awesome service. Maybe it is new customer treatment or maybe it is because I have a nice corporate discount plan. Either way, I am happy!

Can you tether the TB once rooted or does verizon sniff around and cut you off or send a text that your not allowed to tether?
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bmcclure937 said:
I loved TMobile for their competitive rates and awesome customer service.
Since switching to Verizon I have had superior coverage and I have had a great customer experience. My sales rep pampered me when I purchased the TB and started a new family plan.
Thus far, I have received awesome service. Maybe it is new customer treatment or maybe it is because I have a nice corporate discount plan. Either way, I am happy!
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Yep basically my experience since November..just wish I had waited a few months..really wanted the TB ..
WilliamStern said:
Oh god, what am I looking at?
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Just a pro rated, higher than usual bill...try not to use your phone too much (like texting, calls) if you have a low mins/voice plan until the first billing cycle is over....after that it's smooth sailing from there..then again your exeperience might be different..
anyways don't let that stop u! go get your TB!

ddgarcia05 said:
Can you tether the TB once rooted or does verizon sniff around and cut you off or send a text that your not allowed to tether?
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Yes you can and no they won't ..from my experience.

Question about the TB. Anyone getting a slight delay when rotating the phone, lets say when you want to text, or browse the web?

ddgarcia05 said:
Can you tether the TB once rooted or does verizon sniff around and cut you off or send a text that your not allowed to tether?
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This has only been on AT&T to my knowledge so far and only for iPhone users using the MiFi app on their jailbroken iPhones. From what I understand about the way wifi tether works on rooted phones ties it into the underlying architecture so it looks like native traffic. And I'm pretty sure the methods for detecting if your tethered under this approach will make it tough to near impossible for them to detect; however, they could take the classic ISP approach of network shaping/throttling if you seem to be using more bandwidth than they want you to.
But even on the Verizon iPhone so far no issues w/ this from Verizon. Might be that the population of people who choose to jailbreak/root in comparison to the number of users is so small that they don't see enough of a loss to have them want to spend the cost of spending their time/money to track down these users yet.

Thanks for making this thread because I also jumped from ATT to V with two Thunderbolts for my wife and I. They should be here tomorrow.
It will be our first time on Verizon, and our first smartphones. We are finally joining the 21st century. Hhah.

ram130 said:
Just a pro rated, higher than usual bill...try not to use your phone too much (like texting, calls) if you have a low mins/voice plan until the first billing cycle is over....after that it's smooth sailing from there..then again your exeperience might be different..
anyways don't let that stop u! go get your TB!
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Oh, I'm good. I went with an unlimited plan.

Wow! We are in the exact same boat. Once I found out about the sale I jumped ship as well. I ordered on amazon tonight and will get the phone cheaper but I'll have to wait til its back in stock.
I currently use a G2 on TMO and I love it, never had a problem until todays news came out. AT&T will NEVER get anything from me again, I was with them once a few years back and it was horrible!
Anyways, From one former TMO customer switching to VZW to another, enjoy man! I know I will. Went in store today for a demo. This phone looks awesome!
On a side note, any TB users use Slingbox? With the 4G speeds how reliable is it? And how is the quality? I normally only watch over WiFi or at my comp at work.
WilliamStern said:
Hello everyone! New guy here to Verizon, and the Thunderbolt. I was with T-Mobile till the BIG news break of the day about AT&T buying out T-Mobile. I refuse to give AT&T money, so I jumped ship and joined Verizon.
Simple question really....
Anything that I really need to know about Verizon in general, and/or how they work with their customers?
Thanks!
Will.
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All I got to say is you guys are lucky! I'm stuck with my DX until I can get an upgrade next year ..I was thinking of selling it on craiglist for $300 with a few extra cases but not sure how I will get the other $200 for the TB lol...

ddgarcia05 said:
Can you tether the TB once rooted or does verizon sniff around and cut you off or send a text that your not allowed to tether?
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lol before switching from sprint to verizon, since sprint doesn't care what you do data wise, i asked verizon this in a round about way. They said they could careless how much you use. Which makes sense when you have a device pulling at times near 30Mbps down, (got that speed a few times today) you are bound to use a crapton of data. I have only had the phone 24 hoursish, and I already have a gig of data used...lol...

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Is LG the old Samsung?

Name in the title says it all. Will anyone ever buy another LG phone? After the Behold II debacle, allot of people swore they would never buy Samsung again.
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Name in the title says it all. Will anyone ever buy another LG phone? After the Behold II debacle, allot of people swore they would never buy Samsung again.
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And yet they did and I'm going so far as to predict Samsung will topple part of Apple's stranglehold on the smarthphone and tablet market.
hey jrwingate can I have your sensation
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hey jrwingate can I have your sensation
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I'll think about that and get back to yah.
Absolutely not. This will definitely be the last. The way they put a strangle hold on the carrier with this phone is ridiculous. They should stop making phones all together.
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Triune said:
Absolutely not. This will definitely be the last. The way they put a strangle hold on the carrier with this phone is ridiculous. They should stop making phones all together.
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How'd they put a stranglehold on the carrier?
not here
almost everything i own is lg i guarantee as i replace it wont be.
and ill play around with the g2x until a good phone comes out on verizon my update is good in august there and it looks like i can keep unlimited data, glad i didnt cancel it. i should be able to sell the g2x to pay off the etf on tmobile. and only loss will be the differnce between g2x sale and 400 - 200etf 200 phone.
wasnt expecting to stay with tmobile more than a year since i know the merger is already bought and paid for with the fcc. but tmobile has seriously disapointed me, they are nothing now like everything i have read and the people i talked to. must already be ATTMobile.
eagle1967 said:
almost everything i own is lg i guarantee as i replace it wont be.
and ill play around with the g2x until a good phone comes out on verizon my update is good in august there and it looks like i can keep unlimited data, glad i didnt cancel it. i should be able to sell the g2x to pay off the etf on tmobile. and only loss will be the differnce between g2x sale and 400 - 200etf 200 phone.
wasnt expecting to stay with tmobile more than a year since i know the merger is already bought and paid for with the fcc. but tmobile has seriously disapointed me, they are nothing now like everything i have read and the people i talked to. must already be ATTMobile.
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I will be headed for Verizon as soon as the ATT merger goes through but right now there is no point since in my area T-Mobile has the fastest data speeds by a long shot and the cheapest pricing as I am on a loyalty plan. That said, it is hit or miss with T-Mobile but if I don't get my way with customer service, I just keep calling back. I mean, I really can't think of any other provider that would have gave me a free Sensation and let me keep my G2X while still remaining contract free. Can you?
Gold Star>>>LG
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jrwingate6 said:
I will be headed for Verizon as soon as the ATT merger goes through but right now there is no point since in my area T-Mobile has the fastest data speeds by a long shot and the cheapest pricing as I am on a loyalty plan. That said, it is hit or miss with T-Mobile but if I don't get my way with customer service, I just keep calling back. I mean, I really can't think of any other provider that would have gave me a free Sensation and let me keep my G2X while still remaining contract free. Can you?
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http://androidheadlines.com/2011/06/verizons-new-data-plans-broken-down-in-complete-detail.html I will stay
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You'd think that after two different manufacturers both produce craptastic phones for the same carrier then the blame should really be leaning towards T-Mobile's allowance of said phones into their line-up..?
Previous Samsung Vibrant user here and still the same T-Mo customer service bullsh*t with the G2x.
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S0NiX0928 said:
You'd think that after two different manufacturers both produce craptastic phones for the same carrier then the blame should really be leaning towards T-Mobile's allowance of said phones into their line-up..?
Previous Samsung Vibrant user here and still the same T-Mo customer service bullsh*t with the G2x.
I was a Vibrant user as well and I loved almost everything about the phone except the GPS.
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@jrwingate6
The Vibrant gave me GPS issues constantly... I guess this was a bigger issue for me since I was travelling a lot at the time. The GPS issues were widespread and poorly handled by Samsung in my opinion, also didn't like how they dropped the Vibrant and replaced it with a clone with a FFC under the disguise of Galaxy S 4G.
The final straw was once I started to notice my notification bar clock burning into the screen (along with some of the constantly displayed icons). I bailed before the problems got worse and argued with T-Mo till they at least gave me a free upgrade.
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I'll never say "I'll never buy from "X" place" again. You aren't going to make a liar out of me. Samsung botched the vibrant (and a few others) and I along with nearly everyone else is drooling over the gs2. With this many different devices with different hardware and software variants, some are bound to be lemons. What I'd really wish t-mobile(and other carriers) would do is offer to reset phone upgrades for people with specific devices that have well known and documented issues. My old vibrant, for instance... everytime I call to complain about the gps issue, EVERY csr tells me this is a known issue and sends me a replacement. I've swapped it out 6 times in 9 months and even asked for a different phone of equal value and been shot down, as recent as 2 weeks ago. I don't want a free phone, I just want to be able to spend ANOTHER $200 on a "high-end" phone that works.
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Edit: Not worth it.
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Edit: Not worth it.
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I started this thread and never once did I say I wouldn't buy another LG. When the behold II debacle hit, I never said I wouldn't buy a Samsung. This thread was simply starting the obvious. LG is now screwing its customers over just like Samsung used to. But yea. I don't believe for one second half these people will never buy LG again because as soon as the Nexus 3 hits, there is going to be a mass exodus of LG users. You also see how far boycotting samsung got you. No where. They now make some of the best devices out and have no problem selling them.
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Nexus s + medianet $15 data plan (at&t)

Has anyone gotten this to work?
For this to work, att can't have the imei of our phone. This leaves out the att version sold by best buy USA.
But what about the Canada version?
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andrewxu said:
Has anyone gotten this to work?
For this to work, att can't have the imei of our phone. This leaves out the att version sold by best buy USA.
But what about the Canada version?
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If you cant pay you cant play...... Seriously if you cant afford another 10 dollars you shouldn't have bought the phone.
Ok asshole. Instead, I'm a high schooler who wants a dev phone (relying on just the sdk emulator is a *****), and has to pay for it by myself because the nexus s isn't on Verizon, which is what my parents have. I can't sign a contract for another 10 months because I'm not old enough. And I can't afford to wait until the prime, because I have work I want to finish right now.
I'm not using the medianet plan. I'm using the $50 unlimited plan. They work the same, because at&t scans for imeis of known smartphones that they sell, like the atrix. I was just wondering if the canadian nexus s worked because recently best buy USA started selling an att version.
My nexus one never worked on it (only text and calls), so I was just wondering about the s. I can get a new white one for cheap.
Edit: but seriously dude why would you come to a random person and say stuff like that? I guarantee you wouldn't say it to my face. I bet you wont even call me and say it. Why do you think you're so much better because you can sign a contract and pay extra money?
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AT&T will eventually find out that you are using an excessive amount of data throughput via "medianet". I know there was an iPhone 2g trick that would fool AT&T into allowing the $15 plan; however the access in which your smart phone "dials out" to AT&T would expose your phone as being a smart phone. I had an N1 on AT&T and they knew the IMEI number... I bought it via Google too. AT&T has their ways...
The only thing you could do is get the NS, w/ or w/o a 2yr plan and use the DataPlus plan for $15. (If cost is an issue.)
Cost isn't the issue, its the contract. I can't sign one. I'm on an incredible s right now from Canada on the dumb phone plan with ATT and I was just wondering if the nexus would know or not. They knew about my n1 but not my inc s.
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AT&T will eventually find out that you are using an excessive amount of data throughput via "medianet". I know there was an iPhone 2g trick that would fool AT&T into allowing the $15 plan; however the access in which your smart phone "dials out" to AT&T would expose your phone as being a smart phone. I had an N1 on AT&T and they knew the IMEI number... I bought it via Google too. AT&T has their ways...
The only thing you could do is get the NS, w/ or w/o a 2yr plan and use the DataPlus plan for $15. (If cost is an issue.)
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I bought one prior to it releasing on AT&T (through Best Buy mobile) and it worked fine on the $10/$15 MEdiaNet Data plan. Decided to sell it as soon as AT&T released it as their own. I've been wondering the same question lately seeing it's one of the best android phones for the price (I can get a used Rogers one for about $300 unsubsidized.) I'm currently using the Desire Z from Bell Canada on the MEdiaNet plan.
P.S. Would you be willing to sell your Incredible S for around $300?
No thanks, I'm looking for closer to 400 on it. But OK cool the nexus worked
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First off kid, grow up. Then when you do take a deep breath and realize the stupid reply you actually took the time to write. I would have no problem saying it to your face, while smiling of course. You are like every other kid I deal with daily. In fact I bet you are the type that will start crying thinking it will stop me from writing you a ticket.
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Rem3Dy said:
First off kid, grow up. Then when you do take a deep breath and realize the stupid reply you actually took the time to write. I would have no problem saying it to your face, while smiling of course. You are like every other kid I deal with daily. In fact I bet you are the type that will start crying thinking it will stop me from writing you a ticket.
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hhaha ohh shoot a cop! mannn i am so sowwy..
i looked through your other posts, you never have anything constructive or productive to write, so im not gonna worry about you. youre an asshole, the kind that give cops a bad name.
You obviously didn't look too hard. I guess that is to be expected. You are right, I am an asshole because I thought it is lame to try to cheat the system for 10 dollars. Good day kid.
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the unlocked t-mobile version isn't seen as a smartphone by at&t and the poor soul who had the nexus one that was spotted as a smartphone, if yours had the t-mobile frequencies then you were just unlucky.
if its built with t-mobile 3g then it will only connect to the EDGE network and i don't think at&t really cares.
Rem3dy,
The OP asked a specific question. If you can't answer it, don't post.
Leave your moral observations for when you are on the clock, and within your jurisdiction.
What you said was unhelpful and insulting. Step down from the high-horse and be helpful or fellate your service weapon.
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Rem3dy,
The OP asked a specific question. If you can't answer it, don't post.
Leave your moral observations for when you are on the clock, and within your jurisdiction.
What you said was unhelpful and insulting. Step down from the high-horse and be helpful or fellate your service weapon.
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Thanks for chiming in 17 days late. So I'm on a high horse because I think trying to cheat a company out of 10 bucks was stupid? Are you going to support him when he comes back and asks how to download paid apps for free? Where are you going to draw the line? You say to leave my morals out and to either help the kid or say nothing? So what exactly did your post do to help him?
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lulz! cops gettin trolled and peeps gettin trolled by cops! haha! lulz! Hope this helps.
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lulz! cops gettin trolled and peeps gettin trolled by cops! haha! lulz! Hope this helps.
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I laughed!
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Everyone should just stop. I figured it all out, I'm now on straight talk for unlimited everything + 2gb data for $45 a month, and it uses AT&T towers (mvno carrier). This plan worked better, but it requires a $100 fee to start up, but I paid the price because I can't sign contracts.
I wanted to use the medianet plan because I can't sign a contract while I'm under 18. I never wanted to get free apps, or do anything like that. I've been around XDA for a bit, dabbled in devving for a few phones, and I'm pretty sure some of my threads are even stickied. I know the rules etc.
All that said, PLENTY of threads are on XDA about taking advantage of the medianet loophole. It saves $20+ a month, and data is unlimited (not available to other plans) and unthrottled. Many people have no problem sticking it to a corporation that they hate like AT&T, and IMO unlimited data should be unlimited.. smartphone or not, so I had no problem with the idea of it.
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I bought a rogers nexus s (french+english text on box) and they changed my data plan
I got a white i9020a (canadian?) and they changed my dataplan from medianet to a smartphone They can't have the IME number though.. and I tethered all the time on my Nokia E71 w/ medianet so I don't think it was data usage that tipped them off.
How could they know I got an i9020a Nexus S? Maybe a heuristic like if you download from Google's market servers you're on a smartphone?
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I got a white i9020a (canadian?) and they changed my dataplan from medianet to a smartphone They can't have the IME number though.. and I tethered all the time on my Nokia E71 w/ medianet so I don't think it was data usage that tipped them off.
How could they know I got an i9020a Nexus S? Maybe a heuristic like if you download from Google's market servers you're on a smartphone?
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Nah the imeis are public domain.
And they do sweeps every once in a while I guess. Looks like they got a few people.
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Made the switch...

TO Sprint! While I liked my G2X and LOVED all teh support it was getting from all of the developers, the service in my area was just unbearable. Since I moved here 4 years ago I was not able to even stream a song or pandora on the crap EDGE network.
I got the Samsung Galaxy SII Epic 4G Touch and I am loving it so far. I got a hell of a deal and couldnt pass it up. I know Verizon is a better network to be on but it was $30 more and it wasnt truly unlimited like Sprint is.
I got my G2X through Best Buy Mobile and signed up for the buy back program.. well today I went to go see how much that buy back is worth and they gave me $450 for my G2X! It was too good to pass up. So with that $450 I paid the $200 for the new sprint phone, and another $200 for terminating T-mobile contract and walked out of the store with a $50 best buy gift card. It blew my mind, I got paid to switch to a better network and better phone.
Just wanted to shout out to all the devs and support and thanks for all the frustrating times with the old beast.
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TO Sprint! While I liked my G2X and LOVED all teh support it was getting from all of the developers, the service in my area was just unbearable. Since I moved here 4 years ago I was not able to even stream a song or pandora on the crap EDGE network.
I got the Samsung Galaxy SII Epic 4G Touch and I am loving it so far. I got a hell of a deal and couldnt pass it up. I know Verizon is a better network to be on but it was $30 more and it wasnt truly unlimited like Sprint is.
I got my G2X through Best Buy Mobile and signed up for the buy back program.. well today I went to go see how much that buy back is worth and they gave me $450 for my G2X! It was too good to pass up. So with that $450 I paid the $200 for the new sprint phone, and another $200 for terminating T-mobile contract and walked out of the store with a $50 best buy gift card. It blew my mind, I got paid to switch to a better network and better phone.
Just wanted to shout out to all the devs and support and thanks for all the frustrating times with the old beast.
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Wow... I couldn't pass that up either, that's craziness. What dl speeds are you getting on sprint? Doing some window shopping now in case the merger goes through.
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It's funny how this works. I dumped Sprint for the same reasons. Their network in my part of NYC was yuck.
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I dumped sprint too for T-Mobile about 2 weeks ago. Their data speeds were crazy slow in phoenix.
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Yeah I dumped Sprint earlier this year. Couldn't stand the thought of paying $10 extra a month for "smart phone fee" that used to be called "4G" data fee. Of course my city doesn't have Sprint 4G so you could understand how I felt about that bogus fee. My Sprint 3G download speed at home was 100-300kb per sec. I am getting 7-8meg per sec download with Tmobile. I also got 1 bar with Sprint at home and I get full bars at home with Tmobile.
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I dumped sprint too for T-Mobile about 2 weeks ago. Their data speeds were crazy slow in phoenix.
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Ya my buddy on sprint with his nexus s sitting right next to me gets 1.2mb down and I get 8mb down during peak hours he wasn't too happy with his choice either. Best wishes to the OP, how is epic touch, SGSII?
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Thanks folks, I only get 1.2Mbps here inside on 3G. I read everywhere that sprints 3G is slow but it sure beats the heck out of 128Kbps to where I cant even use Pandora while going for a jog. I can still watch youtube and stream netflix and all ther other stuff just fine. T-mobile has no support in my area whatsoever, Best Buy Mobile carried their phones here for like 8 months and just dropped them all last week and picked up Cricket of all things... I did like HSPA+ here in the Twin Cities (Minneapolis / St. Paul) I pulled like 5 down but I was with my friend that just got the LG Revolution and he pulled 12 down which was pretty nuts.
The SGSII is pretty sweet, Its living up to the hype I gues. Its really speedy and the screen is nice. I used to have a Vibrant before the G2X and everybody knows how crappy the GPS was on that among other things which is why I was leary on getting another Samsung. I have run GPS test side by side and the G2X never gets anything below a full green par and 6.1 foot accuracy, and this SGSII took alot longer to get to the 6.1 foot accuracy and didnt lock onto half of the satellites the G2X did and the signal strength was less than half. Aside from GPS I think the SGSII wins in every catagory, it takes amazing phones, I just wish with this huge 4.53" screen that the resolution was better but its hardly noticeable.
I was going to hold out for T-mobiles variant of the SGSII but it doesnt have the Exynos and I was never going to see the 42Mbps ever around here anyways so I had enough of not using internet without wifi. I also kind of wanted to see what teh Nexus Prime was going to be like but it seems like every phone that ever comes out has some sort of huge problem with it especially the G2X and first gen galaxy S phones. And who knows if the Prime is going to have some sort of defect. There are no major hardware problems reported of the SGSII so far and thats all that mattered to me. It has everything I need. I would assume there is going to be ALOT of support for this new device since all the first gen EVO people are probably getting an upgrade soon and want it and there have boon tons of people coming from the Evo 3D because well.. that device blows.
Well it seems that all of samsungs new phones are based off of the galaxy s design in some way or another so you would have to think that with each iteration it gets better. I'm sure the prime will be a beast of a phone. I felt the nexus s was outdated before it even launched
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damn i should start buying from BestBuy too...That's a helluva deal!
I was a Sprint customer for 6 years...and was using the Evo before i decided to go to Tmo. Sprint started charging extra fees out of nowhere...it got pretty crazy.
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damn i should start buying from BestBuy too...That's a helluva deal!
I was a Sprint customer for 6 years...and was using the Evo before i decided to go to Tmo. Sprint started charging extra fees out of nowhere...it got pretty crazy.
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Yeah their insurance is WAAAAAY better too. I highly suggest it. Its like $2 more than sprints but i can smash the phone weekly without question and they will replace it with no deductible no questions asked.. now that I think about it HAHAHAHAHA I gave them my G2X with MIUI running on it, they never even bothered to check it while i was in the store. They probably messed around withit thinking it was some phone from the future. I miss MIUI Touchwiz sucks.
My main reason for dumping Sprint was because in summer of 2010, I got 2mbps on evdo, in August 2011 I was slower than edge. The 10 dollar fee didnt bother me too bad, but then they took away my yearly phone subsidy. This broke the straw.
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dev_man77 said:
TO Sprint! While I liked my G2X and LOVED all teh support it was getting from all of the developers, the service in my area was just unbearable. Since I moved here 4 years ago I was not able to even stream a song or pandora on the crap EDGE network.
I got the Samsung Galaxy SII Epic 4G Touch and I am loving it so far. I got a hell of a deal and couldnt pass it up. I know Verizon is a better network to be on but it was $30 more and it wasnt truly unlimited like Sprint is.
I got my G2X through Best Buy Mobile and signed up for the buy back program.. well today I went to go see how much that buy back is worth and they gave me $450 for my G2X! It was too good to pass up. So with that $450 I paid the $200 for the new sprint phone, and another $200 for terminating T-mobile contract and walked out of the store with a $50 best buy gift card. It blew my mind, I got paid to switch to a better network and better phone.
Just wanted to shout out to all the devs and support and thanks for all the frustrating times with the old beast.
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Not to be an a$$, but did you research sprint lately? They've made tons of changes to their policies and terms. Not to mention, their network took a big hit with alltell (I think it was theirs) towers being sold off. Their 4g partner clearwire is courting other carriers, and their new 4g partner is having trouble clearing the FCC.
There's been a lot of people leaving lately! I'm sure this can be found with most carriers, but sprint doesn't have anything concrete for the future!
GL! Hope all goes well for you!
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Not to be an a$$, but did you research sprint lately? They've made tons of changes to their policies and terms. Not to mention, their network took a big hit with alltell (I think it was theirs) towers being sold off. Their 4g partner clearwire is courting other carriers, and their new 4g partner is having trouble clearing the FCC.
There's been a lot of people leaving lately! I'm sure this can be found with most carriers, but sprint doesn't have anything concrete for the future!
GL! Hope all goes well for you!
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That's why I left Sprint...freaking charges out of nowhere...they said it was statutory fees...x3!
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I made the switch from AT&T to T-Mobile because of service and monthly cost. Good for you if Sprint offers better service in your area.. after all you want your moneys worth. I doubt sprint has the better network between the two though.
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i left sprint for tmobile because of all the changes and because slow 3g

Verizon or Sprint

Here's my dilemma. My Sprint contract is up next month & I'm 99% determined to switch from my Epig 4G to the GS3. My coverage with Sprint is, shall we say, lacking. Nevermind the fact that I was told 4G would be in my area (Omaha, NE) "soon" when I purchased my Epic. Needless to say, 2 years later, still no 4G. Called Sprint yesterday & was told LTE would be in my area "soon", which provided me with a nice laugh to share with the Sprint rep. On the flipside for Sprint, they don't lock the bootloader or block Google Wallet, from what I understand.
VZW should provide much better service, however, they lock the bootloader & block Wallet. I'm afraid to learn what other items they have deemed me too irresponsible to handle.
To avoid this turning in to a fanboy thread, I guess my real question is, how likely (and timely) is it that someone will figure out how to unlock the bootloader? I'm also assuming that if/when that happens, flashing a ROM that will support Google Wallet will become much easier.
Advice?
I was in the EXACT same boat as you about 3 weeks ago. I pulled the trigger and went to Verizon! I will tell you service wise it was one of the best decisions I have ever made. Don't get me wrong Sprint has wonderful phones, unlocked bootloaders, Google Wallet, etc... But what's the sense in having tons of ROMS to flash including AOSP if you don't have the network/service to use it... pointless in my opinion. With Verizon I have service everywhere I go! The only downfall is the locked bootloader and google wallet so far. If you're as frustrated as I was with Sprints service I would make the switch you will be extremely pleased!
Since it sounds like you want 4G check the Verizon Coverage map of your area to see if Verizon has coverage of your area. For the bootloader and Wallet problem people have already gotten wallet working on rooted stock roms and I'm pretty sure CM10 works with Wallet too. The bootloader is being investigated by AdamOutler and many others who have made great progress in the R&D Thread but don't make a post in there unless you have something to provide to help them otherwise your post will be deleted since it's a heavily moderated thread. For the question on when the bootloader will be unlocked only time can tell but we have the Kexec method which allows ROMs like AOKP and CM9 and CM10 and Paranoid.
I would say just gaining 4G is a good reason to switch. The G3 is fast enough for stock and working well for me. custom ROM, unlocked bootloader, etc... are just bonus. Another thing to look forward to is Jelly Bean, once we have Jelly been and a 4G network...Verizon rules the Air.
Bootloader aside, You will get [email protected] on data usage, I'd stay away from Verizon until their prices come down.
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Bootloader aside, You will get [email protected] on data usage, I'd stay away from Verizon until their prices come down.
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Agreed. As a vzw customer myself I cannot, in good faith, recommend vzw to anyone at the moment. Wait to praise them with your dollars until they've pulled their heads out of their asses.
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I'd stay away from Verizon until their prices come down.
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Lol, cell phones will be totally obsolete before that ever happens........
Agreed no reason to come into verizon right now with the share everything scams. Stay away. We only here because of our grandfathered data plans.
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Telling somebody not to sign up with Verizon because they are too expensive is rather moronic really.
If you want good service, you really have no other choice than to go with VZ and waiting for their prices to "go down" is not going to happen in our lifetimes......
Buy the phone outright off CL or eBay and go month to month with the carrier of your choice.
If you go Verizon, you will pay a premium for good network coverage, 4g and the privilege of *****ing about Verizon's bootloader policies ...
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I was in the exact situation, except I also had an original Sero500 plan which ran me $50 per month. Had the Evo 4G, marginal at best service, and a 2 year promise of 4G coming soon and still no 4G anywhere close. I went to Verizon and the GS3 and haven't looked back. Service is much better, LTE is ridiculously blazing compared to Sprints network, and the locked bootloader is less of an issue with kexec. Development still may suffer ultimately though. All I can say is that I'm very happy with my decision.
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What amuses me is 999 out of 1000 Verizon customers have never heard of a "locked boot loader" and could care less what it means anyway.
The VZ G3 is absolutely flying off the shelves and the customers love them.
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What amuses me is 999 out of 1000 Verizon customers have never heard of a "locked boot loader" and could care less what it means anyway.
The VZ G3 is absolutely flying off the shelves and the customers love them.
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I frankly don't think any of us care about those 999 people.
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Very good points, that pretty much confirm what I was already thinking - if the service sucks, it doesn't do much good to have a killer phone.
Although I have a very vague idea of what a locked bootloader is, and why it's detrimental to dev, I'd still (almost) consider myself one of those "999" people. Couldn't have told you anything about it 2 weeks ago.
Getting hosed on data usage doesn't concern me too much really. Looking at my history, assuming Sprint's tools are accurate, I rarely go over 2GB per month between me & the wife. If I'm doing my math correctly, the cost of a 2GB share plan on VZW will be about the same as what I'm currently paying with Sprint. Even if I factor in the 'holy crap the service is so much better I'm using twice as much' factor, I'd still be in the same financial ballpark.
Google Wallet definitely isn't a deal breaker. The VZW rep I was chatting with the other day flat out told me that they don't allow Wallet because they're working on an in-house pymt solution, ISIS.
I think a big part of it is, the thought of giving my money to a company that wants to control how I use my OWN phone just pi$$es me off. Even if I never flash a ROM on the thing - like that's really going to happen.
And my slow a$$ Sprint data was ticking me off so much this afternoon that I almost said screw the last month & $50ETF and switched on the way home. Who knows, I may yet switch this weekend anyway.
Thanks for all the advice. XDA community has never let me down.
i could never go back to sprint.
not that i have good data all the time i will pay top dollar.
im willing to pay for quality.
i stream siriusxm all day at work. it just works. all day every day in buildings in basements.
verizons network it worth the extra cost.
Dude, I just made this decision the other day. I have been with Sprint for 12 years (the last 2 phones were the EVO & Photon). Sprint coverage in my area SUCKS and I am in the Los Angeles area. I asked them when 4G LTE would be here and was told early to mid 2013. That was enough. I bought the SGSIII on Verizon (Shared Everything 6GB for $108 a month. Wife has a corporate discount). I am getting speeds of 40mbps Down & 19mbps Up This alone is worth it to me. I bought the SGSIII on Tuesday and I am already Rooted & using Synergey ROM with Free Hotspot and I could not be happier. The little extra I pay for Solid Network Coverage is totally worth it. Don't think twice, JUST DO IT.
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Dude, I just made this decision the other day. I have been with Sprint for 12 years (the last 2 phones were the EVO & Photon). Sprint coverage in my area SUCKS and I am in the Los Angeles area. I asked them when 4G LTE would be here and was told early to mid 2013. That was enough. I bought the SGSIII on Verizon (Shared Everything 6GB for $108 a month. Wife has a corporate discount). I am getting speeds of 40mbps Down & 19mbps Up This alone is worth it to me. I bought the SGSIII on Tuesday and I am already Rooted & using Synergey ROM with Free Hotspot and I could not be happier. The little extra I pay for Solid Network Coverage is totally worth it. Don't think twice, JUST DO IT.
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Same situation here! The shared data is not bad at all!
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Buy the phone outright off CL or eBay and go month to month with the carrier of your choice.
If you go Verizon, you will pay a premium for good network coverage, 4g and the privilege of *****ing about Verizon's bootloader policies ...
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Unfortunately, Verizon doesn't allow the creation of month-to-month accounts for new customers. You have to start with a contract.
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Unfortunately, Verizon doesn't allow the creation of month-to-month accounts for new customers. You have to start with a contract.
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That is not true at all.. I just opened an account on 07/30/12 month-month.
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Unfortunately, Verizon doesn't allow the creation of month-to-month accounts for new customers. You have to start with a contract.
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That is only if you get a phone from VZ at the upgrade price.

Questions regarding Service Providers

Hey guys.
I am on a phone plan with 4 other people (my family) and we currently have been with T-Mobile for 5 or 6 years. But we are going to switch to either AT&T or Verizon.
I think Verizon has better coverage, but hear awful things about them, I don't doubt att has good coverage, but haven't heard many good thing about them either. Out of the two, what provider would you guys switch to? And why
I'm just asking cause its good to have others opinions too!
Why are you leaving tmobile? (need to understand what you're looking for...)
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I "ran" to T-Mobile to get away from AT&T's plans two years ago.
But then at the time I had 2 iPhones on contract at $140 a month. Now I'm paying $60 per month on a Monthly 4G plans. We've upgraded phones, I have a MT4GS and the wife has a Galaxy Nexus. But too each his own.
And I really like T-Mo's WiFi calling app. My office only has service for Sprint in the building, but free WiFi for employees.
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Why are you leaving tmobile? (need to understand what you're looking for...)
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Because they don't offer iPhones I know I know. and cause we are unhappy with the service after being a valued member for years, still treated like crap.
iPacman
t-mobile has bar far the worst customer service of any company i deal with. i started with aerial in 98, then bought buy voicestream, then tmo... each merger took a step backwards in customer services. i have never yelled at a cs representative until tmobile!
but ive always gotten my way... it sucks that they cant treat me with respect after being with the company for like 15 years (granted they werent the same company but whatever)
thing is, where i live i get the best possible reception of any carrier with tmo, i pay less than any carrier, and i despise apple so not having an iphone option is a plus to me.
but of course with telecommunications geography makes a huge difference, you have to go with what works for you... personally dislike most every option out there for varying reasons so i cant give you a good suggestion... hell i guess i just posted to rant... dont mind my trolling... keep on
It's not a rant when recalling your personal experiences, my friend. IMO anyway....
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It's not a rant when recalling your personal experiences, my friend. IMO anyway....
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Yea
thank u for the "rant"
iPacman
Check with other family and driends in the area about service. Look up coverage maps online. Personally, I'd go with Verizon. They have one of the best Android QWERTYs still on the market. Droid 4. And the iPhone is there too, if that's what you're after
Dev support isn't amazing, but it's getting there. Releases from hashcode come through every now and then. And it has official ICS.
Verizon overall is good service, but be prepared to pay for it. Their plans are not cheap. Not when you're coming from Tmobile. That's about as cheap as it gets with the big carriers
Price: T-Mobile<AT&T<Verizon
Sorry. Mis read an article.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Coug76 said:
Sorry. Mis read an article.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
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Yeah t-Mobile stated that they don't offer the iPhone but they want u to buy it at full price unlocked and use it on their network hahaha. And they don't plan to ever sell it through them.
iPacman
If u do the math, buying the iphone full price and using tmobile value plan / monthly4G is less $$$ than a 2 year contract w/ either att or verizon.
But if your priorities are simply (1) iPhone and (2) customer service, then definitely go with Verizon.
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Tmobile is in the process of merging with metro PCS so they will be offering the iPhone in the first quarter of 2013 on the metro PCs network as well as offering 4G LTE.
Maybe just hold off or switch to metro if you have to have an iPhone
Joe
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And Deutsche Telekom has announced that T-Mobile USA will carry Apple products in 2013.
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Because they don't offer iPhones I know I know. and cause we are unhappy with the service after being a valued member for years, still treated like crap.
iPacman
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if you want an iphone use the iphone theme for miui. lol

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