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Glad I canceled T-Mobile - Too ignorant for my business

Although I enjoyed the data speed of T-Mobile, I am glad I am no longer paying a charge to them. This business with their future phones is a sign of how un-serious they take their consumer business. And because of that, they do deserve the lack of business their decisions will cause.
Not producing phones that will fully function of AT&T's 3G/4G service is just pure willy-nilly ignorant and T-Mobile needs to feel the heat of their ignorance. The so-called "super phone" coming to T-Mobile, the HTC Sensation, will be a no-seller because of how T-Mobile chooses to conduct their business.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/27/t-mobile-g2x-lacks-quadband-hspa-shatters-dreams/

Interesting. i wonder what they do when and if the merger goes through, what then ? do they run to platforms and try to merge over 2 years ? That will totally toast them in business and will lower market share........... Yeah..... What is their plan ?

Yea, I'm thinking of switching back to AT&T as well. Will get a phone that works as long as I need it to, and much better network coverage. Data speeds aren't that big a deal to me, as long as it's around 2mbps download 1mbps up I'm more than content...
And I can still get a 4GB data plan with an iPhone if I go back...

Not too concerned here. 2 of my 3 t-mobile devices fully support at&t's 3g and 4g bands. Just my hd2 will need to be replaced, and that's years away. Not worried.
edit: And phones are planned many months if not a year (or more) in advance. The at&t - t-mobile merger most likely wasn't even in the outlook when they made that phone in the first place.

MartyLK said:
Not producing phones that will fully function of AT&T's 3G/4G service is just pure willy-nilly ignorant...
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Well, that's assuming that the merger goes through.
And even if it does, it's not T-Mobile themselves who produce the phones, they can only buy what the manufacturers are selling.
Plus you seem to be confusing ignorance with short-sightedness.

MOD EDIT :Keep cool, no need to be rude.

TheMan42 said:
The only ignorance here is your post.
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Why would you invest extra money into adding a whole new radio into a handset if there is no garuntee that the merger will go through? The next complaint/answer would be "tmo's handsets are sooo needlesly expensive". Probably because someone thought it was a good idea to put unecassary hardware in a phone you probably wont even remember when (if?) the merger goes through.
I get calls like this all the time, if the service doesnt work for you i completely understand- Please find another service because getting the same whiney call day in and day out costs t mobile that much more money keeping an unhappy customer.
Let me be clear id rather handle 10000 calls about our coverage and service then silly reasons like this, you dont need to justify your reason to leave a carrier.. just leave.

TheMan42 said:
MOD EDIT :Keep cool, no need to be rude.
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To be honest, that came off a little strong, but I still feel it was justified. The Original post should be re-read, then see what was more flame-bait. My statement was the truth, it was "ignorant". Ignorance isn't an insult, its simply stating the the post has no merit into what T-Mobile is doing with their products.
T-Mobile still remains a competitor to AT&T, why would they start to have manufacturers incorporate further frequencies in their devices that support the competitors products? I don't see AT&T doing that with their products, nor Verizon or Sprint.

Interesting. And maybe of interest to me. Someone from t mobile has been hard on my heels to switch from sprint to t mobile. She countered every advantage i thought sprint had: pricewise, 4g coverage etc. If I did not switch yet, cause I am a creature of habits and stick to sprint cause: it is what I started with.
mikzfan

TheMan42 said:
To be honest, that came off a little strong, but I still feel it was justified. The Original post should be re-read, then see what was more flame-bait. My statement was the truth, it was "ignorant". Ignorance isn't an insult, its simply stating the the post has no merit into what T-Mobile is doing with their products.
T-Mobile still remains a competitor to AT&T, why would they start to have manufacturers incorporate further frequencies in their devices that support the competitors products? I don't see AT&T doing that with their products, nor Verizon or Sprint.
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Actually Sprint and Verizon both work on the same 2 frequencies. We're allowed to roam on Verizon as much as we want, included in the plan (there's no hard limit, but don't overuse it), and Verizon customers get to roam on Sprint.

AT&T will become the only GSM phone provider in california when this takes place.

Not surprise one bit. T-MobileUS is notorious for false advertising or even intended false advertising on a bunch of their handsets. How can you trust a company who intentionally commercialized the whole "4G" craze by simply stating that actual 4G infrastructure wasn't worth it and HSPA+ was more than just enough? Good thing they got bought out.

KevGer said:
Hey there everyone if you would like to save money off a new contract with T-Mobile, Att, Sprint, or Verizon email me at [email protected]
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Please stop spamming
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att is gay

they got bought out by another whack provider though

T-Mobile is just as crap here in The Netherlands aswell, I'm glad I have Vodafone!

been loving verizon since i switched from t mobile

What do you guys think of the AT&T/Tmobile Merger?

Do you guys think AT&T and Tmobile Merger will get approved by the Senate?

F***!!!!!! ATT

I will be moving to Sprint if this does go through... I left ATT for a reason...

I will be gone the day my grandfathered plan expires. I refuse to pay $100 more a month for less services. Why would any sane person do that?
I guess it will be back to sprint....

If it goes through im going back to sprint or boost, I refuse to pay att for any media services

Didn't ATT announce that existing T-Mobile customers will be able to keep their existing plans for as long as they want and still benefit from ATT's network and phone selection?
Pretty sure I read that this is a big point they will be making in front of the Senate.

Unless you want to upgrade your phone ever.
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Yeah what he said... if the merger means there will still be 2 companies, I'm down. But when has that ever happened. I been with tmo before they were tmo
... remember voicestream ? Once att gobles up tmo say buh by to decent customer service and decent rates... if I can't keep my plan indefinitely ... ill be heading to Verizon. **** sprint.
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me.... "

Senate has nothing to say - FTC and Justice department. And even if they disapprove, Courts could can overturn ruling - they have done so with other anti-competitive mergers.

Hate ATT customer service!!! Do not want the merger to take place any time soon or ever! 100% against it!!!!

I will leave if it gets approved.

I liked AT&T. I left AT&T because even with full bars at my house, you can't make a call. Even if you can, the call would be dropped before you can finish it.
My GF has AT&T and her phone does the same thing. My neighbors have AT&T and they do they same thing. Even friends on AT&T that visit my house say the same thing.
The sad part is that it isn't just at my house, it's everywhere. Tmobile may not have great service everywhere, but it works where it should and I hardly get disconnected.
I don't mind AT&T because I travel across the US and I found that AT&T pretty much covers me better then Tmobile and they have pretty decent 3G coverage even between cities where Tmobile is GPRS only (not even EDGE).
My feelings toward the merger can go 2 ways:
First, I would not mind AT&T so much IF/WHEN they merge, they allow AT&T customers to use the great Tmobile signal found at my house... or keep the companies separate but allow access to all the GSM signals. Basically the best of both worlds. Like having access to both Tmobile and AT&T networks.
Second, they bring over the Even More Plus plans where you can have your own device and have a lower monthly bill, which makes sense. A part of the monthly bill pays for the big discounts you get off the phones you buy them on contract. If you don't buy their equipment, why would anyone be forced to pay for a discount they never got? I really like the EMP plans and I think they are awesome.
Lastly, they don't rape my bill. $30 a month for internet is INSANE!!!! Plus don't advertise $79 a month plans* (*requires a $30 data plan). WTF is that? It a plan REQUIRES something, then it should all be included in the price. The math should be $109 a month, which is too damn expensive.
I'm actually really happy with $59 1000 minutes unlimited everything else (less a 5gb cap).
That is reasonable and a good deal.

Will switch to VZW if merger happened.

mightywonton said:
Do you guys think AT&T and Tmobile Merger will get approved by the Senate?
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The Senate doesn't approve or disapprove the sale. The FCC and the DOJ have the power in this. One of the closing off the cuff comments from one of the Senators was that he figured the sale would be approved with stipulations as has been speculated all along. We are not many years from a two carrier system...Sprint will never survive against the two behemoths.

I just read a cent article saying its gonna take up to 12 months to evaluate the deal and most of the senate is against it so I doubt it will be approved. If it gets approved that means that there will only be one GSM carrier in the US and consumers will not have a choice but to go with ATT if they want GSM so I dont see how the FCC will approve that.

maciek82 said:
Didn't ATT announce that existing T-Mobile customers will be able to keep their existing plans for as long as they want and still benefit from ATT's network and phone selection?
Pretty sure I read that this is a big point they will be making in front of the Senate.
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They are playing nice right now because they are trying to get the deal approved. Do you think that the deal would get approved if ATT was out right saying they were going raise the rates on 50 million ppl? Probably not.
In turn if you own a company and you had 50 million ppl you could raise the rates up 20+ dollars why wouldn't you? Its all about the $$$$$$$$

johnnyp500 said:
I just read a cent article saying its gonna take up to 12 months to evaluate the deal and most of the senate is against it so I doubt it will be approved. If it gets approved that means that there will only be one GSM carrier in the US and consumers will not have a choice but to go with ATT if they want GSM so I dont see how the FCC will approve that.
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Again, the Senate doesn't matter in the big scheme of things. And the same folks that will decide this sale approved the XM-Sirius merger which resulted in ONE satelite radio provider.
The vast majority of folks could care less if they have GSM or CDMA or TDMA or ABCD or whatever...they want good signal with cheap prices.

I hate to see it and say it, and it will probably take a while, but its going to get approved. AT&T will probably have to make some concessions, but in the end it will go through.

bluemoon737 said:
Again, the Senate doesn't matter in the big scheme of things. And the same folks that will decide this sale approved the XM-Sirius merger which resulted in ONE satelite radio provider.
The vast majority of folks could care less if they have GSM or CDMA or TDMA or ABCD or whatever...they want good signal with cheap prices.
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Im sorry but I disagree with you. Those who travel internationally and use different sim cards in different countries want a global phone and want to choose a gsm network. There are many people like that and it is only fair that they have a choice between at least 2 carriers

jcbofkc said:
I will be gone the day my grandfathered plan expires. I refuse to pay $100 more a month for less services. Why would any sane person do that?
I guess it will be back to sprint....
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Future of Tmobile and Sensation

I'm currently with Tmobile and just upgraded my phone to the Sensation. I love the device and can't wait for the potential it will be unleashed once it's unlocked. However, have you guys wonder what would happen to Sensation once Tmobile is merge with ATT?
Our 3G/4G won't be compatible with ATT unless I'm wrong. Although it doesn't make the device useless, it's a large investment that can't be use to its fullest features.

It's been reported they will give a "Comparable" phone if that did happen. They will have to do something to avoid having a suit filed against them.

the merger, if approved, wouldn't happen till next june. Nothing would change at that point, except the name at the top of the bill. T-mob towers would still operate for years to come

tdy2kn1 said:
I'm currently with Tmobile and just upgraded my phone to the Sensation. I love the device and can't wait for the potential it will be unleashed once it's unlocked. However, have you guys wonder what would happen to Sensation once Tmobile is merge with ATT?
Our 3G/4G won't be compatible with ATT unless I'm wrong. Although it doesn't make the device useless, it's a large investment that can't be use to its fullest features.
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They have to add our frequency to their network is mandatory by FCC
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That's good to know. Make me feel more comfortable about the purchase
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There's a couple of things to take in to consideration when pondering whether the merger gets approved.
1) Deutsche Telekom, T-Mobile's parent, has the business listed on their books as "discontinued operations." It's an accounting practice that they wouldn't have used unless they felt there was a high likelihood the acquisition was going to go through.
2) T-Mobile's hemorrhaging more profitable pre-paid customers which is by far the most profitable business segment in the retail wireless business. They lost over 400K of them in Q1 2011 while VZW, AT&T, and Sprint showed gains. Also, T-Mobile's customer quality is the worst out of the big 4 with the highest amount of bad debt write-off. Since they have less than half the corporate accounts (an even more profitable segment) of either VZW or AT&T, their earnings tanked in Q1. Everyone expects Q2's numbers to be even worse. If they are, T-Mobile and AT&T will tell the approval bodies there's risk of the businesses viability as a stand-alone. That threat gives even those that don't support the deal an out by allowing them to say its approval was necessary.
Bottom line is that the deal is much more likely to go through than not. I know that T-Mobile fans aren't too fond of AT&T but the combined and rationalized network will give both sets of customers better coverage and faster data speeds.

BarryH_GEG said:
There's a couple of things to take in to consideration when pondering whether the merger gets approved.
1) Deutsche Telekom, T-Mobile's parent, has the business listed on their books as "discontinued operations." It's an accounting practice that they wouldn't have used unless they felt there was a high likelihood the acquisition was going to go through.
2) T-Mobile's hemorrhaging more profitable pre-paid customers which is by far the most profitable business segment in the retail wireless business. They lost over 400K of them in Q1 2011 while VZW, AT&T, and Sprint showed gains. Also, T-Mobile's customer quality is the worst out of the big 4 with the highest amount of bad debt write-off. Since they have less than half the corporate accounts (an even more profitable segment) of either VZW or AT&T, their earnings tanked in Q1. Everyone expects Q2's numbers to be even worse. If they are, T-Mobile and AT&T will tell the approval bodies there's risk of the businesses viability as a stand-alone. That threat gives even those that don't support the deal an out by allowing them to say its approval was necessary.
Bottom line is that the deal is much more likely to go through than not. I know that T-Mobile fans aren't too fond of AT&T but the combined and rationalized network will give both sets of customers better coverage and faster data speeds.
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I agree. I have also heard ATT has donate 500k to politicians making it all the likelihood the merger will go through.
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other than maybe higher monthly prices, i think that the merger is beneficial for us: more devices, better coverage, roll over minutes, etc...
about the question: att will provide users with an equivalent handset, so basicaly we will get a new state of art handset, whichever one is out at that time, and you can be sure that it will be more advanced than the sensation by that time.

mike2518 said:
other than maybe higher monthly prices, i think that the merger is beneficial for us: more devices, better coverage, roll over minutes, etc...
about the question: att will provide users with an equivalent handset, so basicaly we will get a new state of art handset, whichever one is out at that time, and you can be sure that it will be more advanced than the sensation by that time.
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It'll be a year to eighteen months before T-Mobile's bands are re-proportioned. By then everyone will be toward the latter half of their two year agreements. I'd guess AT&T would allow T-Mobile'rs to keep their plan pricing and get a new subsidized phone of their choice with some sort of additional discount if they renew their contracts. Those that don't re-up would get their handsets replaced free of charge. I doubt AT&T will replace a then year to eighteen month old handset with their latest and greatest for free. So, and I'm only guessing, your willingness to renew will most likely effect the handset you get.

Less compition is never good
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Hopefully the corporate anti-trust greed merger fails, so that we tmob's can live happily ever after!

unicoyo said:
They have to add our frequency to their network is mandatory by FCC
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This is actually false. In order for ATT to "add" TMO's frequencies they would have to purchase, install and turn up new equipment at every cell site plus upgrade their switches to handle that new equipment. Next, if ATT does that, and transfers TMO's customers to their network on TMO's bands then all the spectrum they just bought for LTE is not being freed up.
What will happen is once the merger finalizes ATT will begin to slowly transfer the TMO customers to their own network as contracts naturally end. It will be a slow process over a 2-5 year period as ATT increases their capacity capabilities. ATT CANNOT TAKE ON ALL OF TMO'S CUSTOMERS RIGHT AWAY!!!! I cannot stress that enough, they DO NOT have the capacity to take on an additional 35 million subscribers.

galaxys said:
Hopefully the corporate anti-trust greed merger fails, so that we tmob's can live happily ever after!
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Would be a nice thought but the truth is, this merger has been devastating to T-Mobile. They are loosing customers fast because of it. I know they will get a bunch of money if it fails but I don't know if it will be enough to save them. Maybe, fingers crossed, if the merger fails someone else like Google will purchase TMO USA.

tdy2kn1 said:
I agree. I have also heard ATT has donate 500k to politicians making it all the likelihood the merger will go through.
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500k? I think you might be missing a zero or two. 500k isn't **** to a company like at&t.

setzer715 said:
ATT CANNOT TAKE ON ALL OF TMO'S CUSTOMERS RIGHT AWAY!!!! I cannot stress that enough, they DO NOT have the capacity to take on an additional 35 million subscribers.
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I doubt they have the network right now to take on a fifth of that. AT&T's network is just **** because they didn't handle it right. I do not want to go to a company who's network & infrastructure is ****.
WorldWide60 said:
500k? I think you might be missing a zero or two. 500k isn't **** to a company like at&t.
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Im sure we will begin to see most of TMO's new offerings support ATT bands as well. Most of us phone fanatics do not last more than 6 months/year with the same phone so for us this will be a non issue. My biggest concern are the rates and my ability to stay on my no contract plan

I'm just afraid that after 6 months or so, they'll force customers to drop their grandfathered plans and accept their crappy data rates and such if they ever desire to upgrade their handset.

I left ATT over three years ago because their "new" phone selection sucked and their planes are unecessarily over prices for what they offer you.
I had reasonable network speeds but I see more stability and burst speeds in the city here with T-Mobile than I did with ATT. The network is no where near as large but for my prime usage area's I'm better off now.
Both companies I felt were about the same in the customer service department.
If ATT offers pricing and plans like T-Mobile does now I won't be so against the merger.

I really feel bad for those of the t-mobile family...as a sprint customer, I welcome you to the family of true unlimited and you can get the evo 3D. Just a sensation with a few different designs and 3D capability and a larger battery...

galaxys said:
Hopefully the corporate anti-trust greed merger fails, so that we tmob's can live happily ever after!
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There won't be a tmo USA if it fails.
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The T-Mobile / Dark Side Merger May fall Through...

For some reason I can't post comments on Tmonews [despise those complicit A-Holes anyway], I thought I'd post this here....
AT&T's Merger with T-Mobile May Actually Fall Through
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In a surprising turn of events, the mega merger that consumer watchdogs decried, but most deemed a fait accompli, faces a real risk of disintegrating at the hands of federal regulators. Last night, a new poll of policy analysts examining the proposed $39 billion merger between AT&T and T-Mobile found that the deal was now more likely to fail than pass FCC and Justice Department approval, according to an average taken from the respondents
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Death to the Deal! Although I dislike ATT, T-Mobile is no better.

I think it's bound to happen they just wanted us all to soak it in that is why it will take so long.

if it does fall through then we are all doomed!

rvdangel630 said:
if it does fall through then we are all doomed!
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Wtf?!
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I don't know... AT&T sure has their tentacles well wrapped in the government... I would imagine they have people on the inside working to their benefit just like all the other bought out politicians & federal officials...
http://community.nasdaq.com/News/20...-by-congress.aspx?storyid=90349#ixzz1V6WJKweI
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I'd have to think with the few billion and extra cell sites T-Mobile would get from the deal falling through, we might make out okay. If the deal went through, we'd be doomed. AT&T is the worse provider in the world and should be shut down.
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Agree
Agree. Really hope the deal fails like flat breaks.

I would love to see the deal fall through considering I just paid two ETFs of 200 dollars to leave ATT last night and switch to T-mobile. I've been with ATT for almost ten years, dealing with tech support and unresolved issues was the last straw.

Either way, Tmobile people will win.
If the deal fails - there is a roaming agreement with ATT, and Tmobile gets cash + spectrum (enough spectrum to deploy LTE - which is odd since ATT says they don't have enough as it is).
If the deal does go through, then you have a combined network, and your plan will be grandfathered in.
Either way, service is going to be improved.

bobdelt said:
Either way, Tmobile people will win.
If the deal fails - there is a roaming agreement with ATT, and Tmobile gets cash + spectrum (enough spectrum to deploy LTE - which is odd since ATT says they don't have enough as it is).
If the deal does go through, then you have a combined network, and your plan will be grandfathered in.
Either way, service is going to be improved.
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My service is excellent now. If AT&T gets it grubby little paws on the network in NYC, its going to go down hill. AT&T does not grandfather plans. Once my contract is up, my plan goes up. I HATE AT&T will a passion. To the point that any media outlet that runs this AT&T "the possibilities are impossible to predict..." advertisement, I boycott that media source.

What's the cheapest plan anyone has in here?
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My fear is this...
I had a bad experience with Cingular back in the day and it left a pretty sour taste in my mouth. I'm not normally one of those people that says "never again!" to things based on one support rep, bad billing issue, etc... I'll normally work through a brunt of issues before declaring war on a company.
I won't go into great detail but it is war now. It's made me consider cancelling my plan with Tmobile and withdrawing service to someone/something else. If ever there is a time to investigate gizmo and sip service with wifi, it's now... I'm not completely there yet, but I have begun to investigate.
The first sign of doomsday has already struck, my unlimited loyalty plan has slowly increased in price, and I haven't changed single thing about my plan and now I suddenly have a cap on my "unlimited" data... the tmobile I signed up with back in 2004 is not the same tmobile it is now... and I've only just recently noticed it. Yes, it is possibly because since the news of the merger I have feared the worst... but so far it's grim. It seemed like they have also slowed down production on new phones for tmobile, I'm assuming this is because of network merging etc that they are focusing their eyes on other tasks first, but I'm disheartened to say the least.
I hope that I am proven wrong because I already hate Sprint and I'm not 100% sold on verizon either. Tmobile, please, reconsider your "unlimited data" plans and give me what I pay for... otherwise you should have given me the option to change and void my contract instead of changing it and saying "deal with it", which has never been your MO until the news of a merger.
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Sadly this is ATT's tactic. They are trying to scare away as many customers from tmob as they can. The weaker tmobile is the easier the buyout will pass.
The commercials they are running make me sick.

Lets all go into an at&t store and kick them all in the ass
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New info:
http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/08/fcc-wants-info-on-att-tmobile-merger.html

Its funny I remember being a kid and there was no verizon or cell phones even. The Govt broke up the monopoly and created the baby bells to promote competition and make phone service affordable and give us a choice.
Now cell phones are today what landlines were back then and they are doing just the opposite. AT&T wants Tmobile to get rid of competition. The less choices one has the more customers for AT&T.
In todays economy everyone has to look at costs. My company just switched to Tmobile because of the new business plans that they started to offer. If the merger goes through and the plans don't grandfather in, I cant see my company staying with AT&T but for two years they get to save some money.

Stephenson is a giant turd.
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ENJOY!!!
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AT&T ends it's bid for Tmous...

just got the breaking news from CNN...
so I guess Tmous willl be Tmous.
makes me happy since I like Tmous as it is and did not want to be with AT&T.

I was kind of looking forward to the synergies that would have gone into effect (better service or whatever), and thought that they could finally start competing with Verizon in terms of carrier ranking. It's a pity their asset sales deal went cold.

i read something on this a couple months ago, wasnt from CNN though. i was extremly happy though!!! i hate att, their packaging sucks, customer supper, phones are not as good looking either lol. and i hate their plans

stratax said:
i read something on this a couple months ago, wasnt from CNN though. i was extremly happy though!!! i hate att, their packaging sucks, customer supper, phones are not as good looking either lol. and i hate their plans
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what are you talking about do you follow new lol if it wasnt for tmob att would never have 50$ unlimited all
hell i unlocked my phone if tmob dont get it together will just drop them and go att
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ans/pyg-cell-phone-plans.jsp?_requestid=79200

I knew that would happen..

stratax said:
i read something on this a couple months ago, wasnt from CNN though. i was extremly happy though!!! i hate att, their packaging sucks, customer supper, phones are not as good looking either lol. and i hate their plans
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The part you heard was the Justice Department suing to stop the merger. More recently, the FCC also threatened to block the merger (back around Thanksgiving), noting that the deal would decrease competition in 99 out of 100 markets the FCC evaluated (the 1 remaining was Omaha, where T-mobile doesn't officially have a market presence, though oddly enough they do have a few cell towers there and you can get coverage.)
All those previous news articles, though, didn't mean the merger was off; it just meant that, for the first time in over a decade regulators actually decided to not just roll over and let a monopoly have its way. This is different; this is AT&T officially calling off the merger and agreeing to pay T-mobile the breakup fee.
This is great news for US cellular customers, as we still have our low-cost, more-open-than-anyone-else-in-the-US national competitor around, and with a nice cash windfall to boot. It's a little bittersweet, though, because Verizon just snuck in and bought out the last of the readily-available wireless spectrum from the cable companies, meaning that, should that buyout be approved, T-mobile no longer has a really good path to rolling out an LTE network.
So, in the short term it's an awesome deal for T-mobile and for US customers. In the long run it really depends on T-mobile pulling an LTE network out of its hat, and that's going to be hard to do now that the nearly all of the good wireless spectrum licenses are gobbled up by the Big Three.

Hope Google makes a move for T-MO
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Five0nIt said:
Hope Google makes a move for T-MO
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They can't anymore; they own Motorola now, and the FCC has been very clear that carriers can't manufacture phones. And for good reason: if they hadn't imposed that rule in the 70s we'd still have a grand total of three wired handsets on the market (the ones offered by AT&T) and no cell phones, modems, fax machines, etc. If the FCC didn't approve AT&T&T-mobile, there's no way they'd approve Google&Motorola&T-mobile.
It's a shame, too. It seems obvious that Google was looking to buy a US wireless carrier, given their rush to buy up dark fiber and the small pilot project offering 1 Gbps internet to Kansas City. The obvious choice would be the relatively small carrier that was open enough to innovation to host the very first Android phone. Unfortunately they needed a patent portfolio to defend Android against Apple and Microsoft's lawsuit barrage, and Motorola basically held itself hostage, forcing Google to buy the whole company, rather than just the patents it wanted.

Five0nIt said:
Hope Google makes a move for T-MO
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+1 that would be sweet and it's great to see the users win this no-merge!

TheEyes said:
They can't anymore; they own Motorola now, and the FCC has been very clear that carriers can't manufacture phones. And for good reason: if they hadn't imposed that rule in the 70s we'd still have a grand total of three wired handsets on the market (the ones offered by AT&T) and no cell phones, modems, fax machines, etc. If the FCC didn't approve AT&T&T-mobile, there's no way they'd approve Google&Motorola&T-mobile.
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Your right, I forgot they bought moto
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TheEyes said:
They can't anymore; they own Motorola now, and the FCC has been very clear that carriers can't manufacture phones. And for good reason: if they hadn't imposed that rule in the 70s we'd still have a grand total of three wired handsets on the market (the ones offered by AT&T) and no cell phones, modems, fax machines, etc. If the FCC didn't approve AT&T&T-mobile, there's no way they'd approve Google&Motorola&T-mobile.
It's a shame, too. It seems obvious that Google was looking to buy a US wireless carrier, given their rush to buy up dark fiber and the small pilot project offering 1 Gbps internet to Kansas City. The obvious choice would be the relatively small carrier that was open enough to innovation to host the very first Android phone. Unfortunately they needed a patent portfolio to defend Android against Apple and Microsoft's lawsuit barrage, and Motorola basically held itself hostage, forcing Google to buy the whole company, rather than just the patents it wanted.
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they can in a couple years..

I was soooo happy when I heard this today! I f*ckin hate At&t. I have a friend that works for At&t and he even hates their cell service and its free for him! They are overpriced and I'm sure we would have gotten dicked as tmobile customers if the buyout would have went through.

big fancy said:
I was soooo happy when I heard this today! I f*ckin hate At&t. I have a friend that works for At&t and he even hates their cell service and its free for him! They are overpriced and I'm sure we would have gotten dicked as tmobile customers if the buyout would have went through.
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For sure, just ask any former Cingular wireless customers.

craven667 said:
what are you talking about do you follow new lol if it wasnt for tmob att would never have 50$ unlimited all
hell i unlocked my phone if tmob dont get it together will just drop them and go att
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well i say that because i pay $15 a month for texting, i dont think you can do that with att. all my friends with att are paying a **** ton, all my friends with tmo (not much lol) arent really even with data

nrvnqsrxk said:
I was kind of looking forward to the synergies that would have gone into effect (better service or whatever), and thought that they could finally start competing with Verizon in terms of carrier ranking. It's a pity their asset sales deal went cold.
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Why do you think that would have made things better? Just curious, but IMO ATT would not have kept Tmo the same, if nothing else I'm sure they would have raised the rates on everything.

kingston73 said:
Why do you think that would have made things better? Just curious, but IMO ATT would not have kept Tmo the same, if nothing else I'm sure they would have raised the rates on everything.
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I don't think price hikes would occur if your plan was grandfathered. And we would benefit from additional UTMS service coverage. It's a good thing that AT&T is required to pay TMOUS 3 Billion as breakup fee, as well as increased service in 20 different areas.
7 Year UMTS Deal & 3B Breakup Fee by AT&T