[Q] What does HTC's bootloader unlock mean for everyone? - HTC Sensation

Yesterday, HTCDev released the unlocker for our bootloader. I know this is beneficial only for those who hasn't unlocked their bootloader via the Revolutionary method.
But what does this mean for those who already has an unlocked bootloader? What's the difference? Are there advantages with this method over Revolutionary?

You lose your warrenty and recovery. You both get with the revolutionary method.
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pr0x2 said:
You lose your warrenty and recovery. You both get with the revolutionary method.
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With Revolutionary you don't lose your warranty? I didn't know that. I thought you lose both either way.

It's not that you don't lose your warranty. It's just that HTC won't be able to tell you've S-OFF'd it as you can go back to 100% stock before sending it into HTC
Using the official method they have a note of your serial number so will know you've unlocked it

EddyOS said:
It's not that you don't lose your warranty. It's just that HTC won't be able to tell you've S-OFF'd it as you can go back to 100% stock before sending it into HTC
Using the official method they have a note of your serial number so will know you've unlocked it
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Ahhh! Thanks for the clarification!

Probably a dumb question, but why do you lose Recovery when going S-off via that HTC route?

Ozam said:
Probably a dumb question, but why do you lose Recovery when going S-off via that HTC route?
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Well you get the normal HTC recovery. With revolutionary option you get the clockwork mod recovery that can do many many amazing things like flashing new roms.

Related

How to S-OFF HBOOT 2.00.2002???

Is there a way to S-OFF the desire s with HBOOT 2.00.2002 S-ON?
Thanks
You could probably flash eng hboot and then use revolutionary..... I think.
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I think that you can OFFICIALLY unlock your bootloader (S-OFF), never tried so not completely sure that Desire S is supported - see here
amidabuddha said:
I think that you can OFFICIALLY unlock your bootloader (S-OFF), never tried so not completely sure that Desire S is supported - see here
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If you look at the threads in the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D forums, when you use the HTC procedure to Unlock the bootloader at the HTCDEV.com site, it does not change the security status to S-OFF, but you are able to flash a custom recovery and ROMs, but you need to do this using FASTBOOT commands.
tpbklake said:
If you look at the threads in the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D forums, when you use the HTC procedure to Unlock the bootloader at the HTCDEV.com site, it does not change the security status to S-OFF, but you are able to flash a custom recovery and ROMs, but you need to do this using FASTBOOT commands.
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Nice but useless Maybe best for newbies. These days our forum is flooded with questions about errors, bricks, hboot replacement, etc. including one from myself...
revolutionary doesn't state that it supports this hboot on their site??
I just wanted to know because if i install the legit ota for sense 3 it will reflash my bootloader to the locked new 1. and ofc i would want to S-OFF in again!
Eclipse_Droid said:
revolutionary doesn't state that it supports this hboot on their site??
I just wanted to know because if i install the legit ota for sense 3 it will reflash my bootloader to the locked new 1. and ofc i would want to S-OFF in again!
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why do you need the stock OTA, since the custom ROMs are much more optimized??? And soon here will be a rooted version of the Stock I believe
amidabuddha said:
why do you need the stock OTA, since the custom ROMs are much more optimized??? And soon here will be a rooted version of the Stock I believe
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i just like the idea of stock sense 3! but ofc i still use titanium to remove all the bloatware that i don't use or need. then i make a nand backup
thats the way i do it with all the roms i use. Ive got quite a few nands to switch between depending on my mood
I doubt revolutionary would work. You could go into the IRC and ask, I read someone unlocked the boot loader by going on htcdev.com
tpbklake said:
If you look at the threads in the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D forums, when you use the HTC procedure to Unlock the bootloader at the HTCDEV.com site, it does not change the security status to S-OFF, but you are able to flash a custom recovery and ROMs, but you need to do this using FASTBOOT commands.
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With the fastboot you can flash an Engineering Bootloader as well. So it is a way to S-OFF more or less.
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[Q] Back to stock for OTA updates with SuperCID ?

First thing's first - I'm definitely not a newb.
My phone (Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA) is depended upon for work and person use. I've been playing with a lot of custom ROMs and each and every one of them has their own little quirks.
Because of this I have seriously considered going back to stock, but I want to be sure that I can receive OTA updates.
I realize that I can get everything back to stock via RUU, HOWEVER, with SuperCID in place, would I still be able to receive OTA updates? I've read that the RUU doesn't replace the SuperCID with the shipped value.
If not, how would I get the SuperCID back to the original value (which unfortunately I don't have - phone was bought used and already rooted) ?
Thanks so much!
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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Sinistra425 said:
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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Yes it will!
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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The RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery
Sinistra425 said:
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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What about the cid??
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No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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Sinistra425 said:
No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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I'm thinking if I need to use warranty?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
SensationX1 said:
Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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you could.. but since you can easily rewrite your cid, why worry?
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
anardjai said:
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
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Are you sure for this? From what I know IF you install stock ROM from RUU, it will automatically unroot the phone, get back to S-On and of course replace your bootloader with the original one. However to be honest I don't know what happens if you install stock from clockwork recovery - maybe that way the bootloader will not be replaced and you will still have S-Off and root.
TO JWhipple: The Super CID shouldn't matter for RUU. However you could always change it back to your phone/operator version before installing RUU.
@up: not in Sensation. After installing stock with RUU, S-OFF will remain still. To get S-ON back follow this guide. I'm sure, tested on my own Sensation
What would be the right order to go with:
Do you start with changing the SuperCID back to the original one forst or would you first have to go back to S-ON?
SIMPLY TELL ME ONE THING
that can we have official update after installing the latest ruu with s-on and unroot but with super cid?????
thanks
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installing stock ruu doesnt change the phone to s-on or unroot.......but see the guide to do s-on then u might get the official updates
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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hello how r u ?
seems u got allot exp. in this i try to get back to my stock ruu rom after installing ginger bread arhd and pg53img 3.12 it stops and say error 155 what should i do to get back to stock
dexter93 said:
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
serega12 said:
Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
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No it is not necessary. It will be required only if your device is S-ON and RUU version is older. Just remeber that if your phone is S-OFF and you want to put it S-ON again, do that after you have flashed stock ROM.

Relocked to locked

is there any way to change RELOCKED TO LOCKED in bootloader?
Revolutionary
I guess guys from Revolutionary can do it. "Revolutionary" is displayed instead of "Locked", so
I guess that it's simple to change that. However I don't know if this helps for warranty purposes
Flash an ruu. It's the safest and easiest way
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If you've unlocked it via HTC you can't have it back to 'Locked' - you'll always be 'Relocked' from now on. An RUU will make no difference
EddyOS said:
If you've unlocked it via HTC you can't have it back to 'Locked' - you'll always be 'Relocked' from now on. An RUU will make no difference
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Are you sure eddy? Not even via revolutionary s off + ruu + s on?
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justexpect said:
I guess guys from Revolutionary can do it. "Revolutionary" is displayed instead of "Locked", so
I guess that it's simple to change that. However I don't know if this helps for warranty purposes
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was thinking the same. anybody know how to do it?
khanem said:
was thinking the same. anybody know how to do it?
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Try to s off using revolutionary , then flash a ruu and s on. This *might* work. Instructions are in a sticky thread somewhere. Don't return the phone with revolutionary hboot back, its automatically out of warranty
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dexter93 said:
Try to s off using revolutionary , then flash a ruu and s on. This *might* work. Instructions are in a sticky thread somewhere. Don't return the phone with revolutionary hboot back, its automatically out of warranty
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It doesn't work. "Relocked" is still displayed. I've tried that.
You have to revert the flashing of Unlock_code.bin somehow.
BTW: please use "thanks" if my answer helped you.
It really doesn't matter, if you used HTC Unlock your warranty is void, they know you unlocked, other than changing the word what the hell is the point. The new firmware 3.32 from Mike removes locked message replacing it with Revolutionary. Be careful flashing firmware it can cause bootloop if done wrong and those new firmwares 3.30 and 3.32 are only for ICS, GB will bootloop.
restore rom image
I'm wondering if restoring a rom with cwm and the rom is before unlocking
the bootloader with HTC method will make a difference
You CANNOT get it back to 'Locked' as nothing we have available to us (RUU, OTAs, FW, etc) touches that part of the phone
justexpect said:
I'm wondering if restoring a rom with cwm and the rom is before unlocking
the bootloader with HTC method will make a difference
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Restoring a rom does not change the bootloader.
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misc partition
stringer7 said:
Restoring a rom does not change the bootloader.
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I was hopping to restore misc partition, but it isn't. Changing the bootloader does not
help.

[Q] Need Help - Xe (ICS) bootloader says S-OFF but superuser says not rooted

Hi
I have a sensation xe. I rooted it before upgrading it to ICS (before is GB).
I upgraded it by flashing official ics rom due to I previously installed clockworkmod recovery which stop me from normal way of upgrade.
After upgrade everything's fine, but superuser and clockworkmod gone.
When I install superuser it says binary not found. but I checked my bootloader it says S-OFF.
What should I do?
Android - 4.0.3
Software number - 3.32.401.105
Hboot - 1.27.0000
Radio - 11.22.3504.07_M
Nevermind.
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I don't know what is that, I think not.
I flashed it using RUU_PYRAMID_LE_ICS_35_S_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.105_R_Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_251961_signed.exe
If you find it locked you have to unlock first with htcdev.com but many user won't recommend it but at this time I think it the only way to unlock the bootloader, install the custom recovery(CWM) and install the superuser(root the phone).
You can get the details on this post.
But I already have it rooted before upgrade. I thought it will remain rooted? coz my bootloader shown S-OFF
OK, you have S-off. I guess you should be able to flash Revolutionary firmware from Boot loader, then use fast boot to flash the recovery, then flash root from the recovery you installed earlier and voila.
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Or, flash a firmware that contains recovery and then flash super user (just make sure its the correct firmware.) (I don't remember exactly where I seen this firmware, but I'm sure I have. Maybe here or somewhere else)
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xegneto said:
But I already have it rooted before upgrade. I thought it will remain rooted? coz my bootloader shown S-OFF
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If you are S-Off you can root it again (because you flashed a RUU you lost root)
1) need to have a custom recovery (CWN or 4EXT). There is a nice tool to instal 4ext recovery HERE or download this PG58IMG. Just put it in your sd card and flash it from bootloader.
2) Then Download and install from custom recovery the Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
Done!
kualmente said:
If you are S-Off you can root it again (because you flashed a RUU you lost root)
1) need to have a custom recovery (CWN or 4EXT). There is a nice tool to instal 4ext recovery HERE
2) Download and install from recovery Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
Done!
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By flashing the RUU he lost recovery.
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BurnRubber90 said:
By flashing the RUU he lost recovery.
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In fact I wrote point 1) he needs a custom recovery first
XaQi 101 said:
If you find it locked you have to unlock first with htcdev.com but many user won't recommend it but at this time I think it the only way to unlock the bootloader, install the custom recovery(CWM) and install the superuser(root the phone).
You can get the details on this post.
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They don't recommend it because it doesn't unlock the bootloader completely. Read more and please don't recommend it, it's incorrect. His bootloader is already unlocked, hence he is s off. As already mentioned he needs to root and install Recovery.
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kualmente said:
In fact I wrote point 1) he needs a custom recovery first
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And the app needs root
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BurnRubber90 said:
And the app needs root
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Not if you flash a PG58IMG from bootloader. Done hundreds of times
If you download from Market then yes, you need root.
kualmente said:
Not if you flash a PG58IMG from bootloader. Done hundreds of times
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You got me lol. I'm used to either flashing recovery through fast boot or running revolutionary to get it installed, then switch to 4EXT through the app
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BurnRubber90 said:
You got me lol. I'm used to either flashing recovery through fast boot or running revolutionary to get it installed, then switch to 4EXT through the app
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Correct. By revolutionary you install CWM and then you can switch to 4ext. same as I did but in his case he doesn't need to use Revolutionary because already unlocked and s-Offed (and also because Revolutionary doesn't support Hboot 1.27). He needs just to install a custom recovery by a PG58IMG and superuser to get root again.
If the. Hboot is the issue why not just get an older one, put it in a zip called pjwhatever.zip (not sure I own a wildfire) and then just put into bootloader and flash it. He has s-off like.??
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heavy_metal_man said:
If the. Hboot is the issue why not just get an older one, put it in a zip called pjwhatever.zip (not sure I own a wildfire) and then just put into bootloader and flash it. He has s-off like.??
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Hboot has nothing to do. The OP wants just root the phone again after upgrade to ICS.
Also, I think we are hitchhiking the thread with OT postings.
That said, this is my last post here.
For the OP: Follow instructions few posts above and good luck
kualmente said:
Hboot has nothing to do. The OP wants just root the phone again after upgrade to ICS.
Also, I think we are hitchhiking the thread with OT postings.
That said, this is my last post here.
For the OP: Follow instructions few posts above and good luck
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ahh, sorry i misread. i thought the ruu had upgraded the hboot to the htcdev hboot that has the locked unlocked thing. my bad.
Thank you so much for teaching me. I have custom recovery and superuser now in my phone.
but I have 1 more question, what is the ***LOCKED*** means in my bootloader? Is that simlock?
xegneto said:
Thank you so much for teaching me. I have custom recovery and superuser now in my phone.
but I have 1 more question, what is the ***LOCKED*** means in my bootloader? Is that simlock?
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It means you cannot use advanced fastboot commands. You're still s off, don't worry about locked.
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[Q] T-Mobile Uk RUUs

I've been going through some Rom/Flashing issues with my HTC One S and having the RUU for my device to start all over again flashing back to stock recovery, relocking the phone and using the RUU to get myself back to stock.
To give you a run down. I just got my phone and I've spent the last month figuring this whole thing out due to this amazing online community on here.
I use TWRP 2.2 as my recovery, unfortunately I dived in, and failed to back up my original non-rooted stock Rom but that's still ok.
[I know nooby but bearing in mind this has all taken place within like, two weeks.] I used to switch effortlessly between MIUI v4 and the stock rooted HTC Sense 4.0.4 android just by backing up and restoring the roms but then I flashed to Paranoid Android and I think I fiddled with something during that flashing process which is why I'm probably getting some arbitrary technical issues now and I'd like to start over!
So anyways, any of you fine gentlemen and possibly ladies out there who could point me in the direction of a Uk HTC One S T-mobile RUU?
Thanks
Unfortunately none. I need one, too.
Sent from my locked, tampered ville
What do you need yours for exactly? Maybe I can help you out
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I have a tampered bootloader, and the flag needs to be reset. That's why I need one. And I have a T-Mobile CID.
I know there are ways to tamper and/or change the CID but I don't particularly want to do that myself.
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I can't change CID, because I don't have an unlocked bootloader.
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You can use hassoon's HTC one s all in one kit to unlock the bootloader can't you?
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Do a full wipe, flash something like ARHD, change the CID, flash HTC Europe RUUs.
Yes, but I don't want to root... I need to restore from an RUU because that will remove my tampered flag.
Sent from my locked, tampered ville
usaff22 said:
Yes, but I don't want to root... I need to restore from an RUU because that will remove my tampered flag.
Sent from my locked, tampered ville
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I had a similar issue with my orange uk branded one s but after installing twrp i was able to change my cid from orange to a generic htc cid. I then re installed stock recovery, relocked the bootloader and then was able to install the european ruu. This worked fine and bootloader no longer says tampered although it does say relocked. I believe this is the best you can get if the bootloader has been unlocked at some stage.
norniron said:
I had a similar issue with my orange uk branded one s but after installing twrp i was able to change my cid from orange to a generic htc cid. I then re installed stock recovery, relocked the bootloader and then was able to install the european ruu. This worked fine and bootloader no longer says tampered although it does say relocked. I believe this is the best you can get if the bootloader has been unlocked at some stage.
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How do you change the CID using twrp? What rom do you flash?
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fastboot oem writecid HTC__001
I have never unlocked though. Only tampered. So it's still locked but tampered.
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Amilka said:
How do you change the CID using twrp? What rom do you flash?
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I just started the phone in twrp recovery and followed this guide to change cid :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26516911#post26516911
i then installed this ruu after relocking bootloader :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861981

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