Database Info

what is the Best way to tether my android without paying extra?

I just got the verizon fascinate, and cancelled my home phone and internet. what is the best way to tether it so i can surf the web on my home PC. i am looking to avoid the charges of using the hotspot feature from verizon.
any help would be greatley appreciated..
thanks so much!

If you tether and use heavily, you'll be noticed. I'm not sure if PDANet is available to Verizon Android users (Much like we t-mo guys can't have skype default install from market...), but look it up.

bennettm89 said:
If you tether and use heavily, you'll be noticed. I'm not sure if PDANet is available to Verizon Android users (Much like we t-mo guys can't have skype default install from market...), but look it up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you consider "heavily"?
also, i did try out PDAnet last night with it. it works great.i LOVE the texting feature...

dvigue said:
What do you consider "heavily"?
also, i did try out PDAnet last night with it. it works great.i LOVE the texting feature...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well... In reality, it's not what I consider heavily, it's verizons perception of heavy usage...
If you're going to browse the web for four hours, maybe send a few e-mails and pull forty-five songs from Miley Cyrus, that may look a little suspicious.
The beauty of me using T-mobile and vanilla Android on my Nexus one is the ability to tether "for free" through Settings -> Wireless and so on. They send me texts/emails/letters sometimes regarding my data usage and say that they throttle me back until the next billing cycle. I see no large performance degradation though.

Wow I've never gotten a notice. They tell me they can't track my usage cause it's unlimited. Consider this heavy I tether every night and sometimes use xbox live. I also download lots of roms and have played mmos.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

what do you guys average for data usage?

AT&T wishes they never offered UNLIMITED DATA PLANS!
Well I got the C&D order letter using BARNACLE of course I played dumb and called to retain my unlimited plan....
So I had to add tether on another phone my lady has which was not on unlimited.
Simple solution LOL when I have a large file I send the url to my Atrix with unlimited data plan then download that massive file on the unlimited plan phone.
Once done downloading I simply transfer the file as if it were USB attached storage or pull the SD etc.. but that is NOT TETHERING and I still get the files I wish...... GOTCHA AT&T!! Oh and of course since you NOW have rules about content downloaded I abide and only download what is permissible (ie. purchased music etc....) I hit 105GB this last cycle and plan on even more this month.
AT&T is a horrible company when it comes to ethics and morals..... they LIE alot!

bennettm89 said:
If you tether and use heavily, you'll be noticed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ha!!! This is so far from the truth I can't help but laugh....
1. pdanet has a feature to keep your carrier from noticing your usage called "hide tether usage'
2. I used my phone for 4 days straight when my internet went out due to bad weather....I streamed dozens of movies, downloaded music, browsed, sent emails, and I even downloaded Uncharted 3...all while tethered. I have yet to get any letters/emails/calls/texts from sprint telling me to stop using so much data....and I don't use the 'hide tether usage' option.
3. there are rumors that carriers CAN'T see your tethered usage from and android...they can only monitor iphones. I have yet to see hard evidence one way or the other, but it's been said many times that no carrier can monitor android usage to the point of knowing whether it's tethered or not.
Interesting read about PDAnet & verizon android devices
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/02/pda...ing-use-but-verizon-users-may-be-out-of-luck/

They can tell by the OS on the phone I believe as they had the dates I tethered..

[Q] Defeat Throttling?

So i'm about 2.5 weeks into my plan and i'm already throttled by Tmobile. Not really cool going from 8mbps to .06mbps. Does anyone know if there is a way to bypass the throttling or able to point me in the right direction? Been searching for a bit here any found no traces of anything that may work on my Galaxy S 4G. I did find ways to do it on Sprint and Verizon though, but that does not help me much :/

Call up their sales department and put down 2x the ammount of $$ you pay for your home ISP Service to get a 10g limit :|

How did you use up 10gb in 2 weeks
Sent from Snarf high on SRF 1.02 till freezes are fixed

I was almost throttled, im at 4.3gb with like 4days left on my contract. I was tethering my Xoom alot at work. I wish I never switched to a family plan. For the longest time I kept my 300min unlimited text/data because I had true unlimited data. When I moved in my new apartment it took Att three weeks to hook up my uverse. I tethered my phone the whole time and used 17gb of data and was never throttled.

churro7 said:
How did you use up 10gb in 2 weeks
Sent from Snarf high on SRF 1.02 till freezes are fixed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used over 30 gigs in 3 weeks when i first got my HD2

Not hard to hit 5 GB/month being reasonable.
For example, streaming 128 kbps audio is ~56 MB/hr payload, or ~62 MB/hr including TCP overhead, downstream only. Two hours a day, 30 days a month, and you're already at 3.6 GB/month. Make that three hours, and you're over.

churro7 said:
How did you use up 10gb in 2 weeks
Sent from Snarf high on SRF 1.02 till freezes are fixed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I been tethering and streaming netflix movies, reading(streaming) manga through Mango and Mangawhat applications, Pandora every so often, downloading movies from media4amp.com, downloading and testing out all kinds of applications then deleting them and trying out more, ect ect. I just found it really really easy to hit the cap that is all. I could probably have reached 50 or so if I wasn't stopped lol...

Elazul2k said:
I been tethering and streaming netflix movies, reading(streaming) manga through Mango and Mangawhat applications, Pandora every so often, downloading movies from media4amp.com, downloading and testing out all kinds of applications then deleting them and trying out more, ect ect. I just found it really really easy to hit the cap that is all. I could probably have reached 50 or so if I wasn't stopped lol...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey Whats your solution to Netflix... I find this the only thing I miss on my old iPhone. I will stay a convert but I really miss it. THe only solution i found requires my home computer and 80 bucks!?

T-Mo Data throttling

Let's face it, 5 gb of data is nowhere near enough for one month! I've seen posts about how to rid your phone of being throttled. Before I go through with this, has anyone done this yet? Looking to see if t-mobile caught on to anyone and said anything. Thanks!
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

Just use WI-FI when you can. A lot of places offer it free.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App

At home I always do, but days at work and weekends kill me during the month. There's no open wifi near my work... In NYC... Go figure
Sent from my MIUI G2x

Its done from tmobile's servers. No way around it ): unless you can sneak into the servers at tmobile's headquarters on a stealth mission and hack their mainframe by holding "x".

Dayum I thought I consider myself a heavy data user and I generally use a tad over 2gb/month lol.
Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk

there is a way to do it but from what I read it works for some people and not for others. So I think it is a crapshoot. I would be really careful. I agree that 5 gigs is not enough. I am almost over my limit with 10 days to go and that is with using wifi alot of the time. I was thinking of doing that fix also but I dont kmow. Also I dont think anyone had problems with tmo.

I wouldn't say that hack works for anyone. I got the text a few months ago about halfway through my cycle, but my speeds were never throttled although I was told they were. I would say that is what happened with those it "worked" got.

Yeah cI just dont like the idea of messin with the system that much and I mean my phone's system. I dont mind doing root and doing little things but my phone has run like a champ since day one and I got it about two weeks after relese date. I waited for the GB update to come and my phone still ran fine after that although I did not see much improvement. I was not impressed with the GB update so I rooted the phone. I am afraid that if I keep messin with it I am going to ruin a good thing. I should be happy with what I got. I am running xboarders tweeked ota and it runs like a champ. If I screw around and brick my phone I have no one to blame but myself.

I just got off the phone with customer service and it turns out that you. An get a 10 gig data cap plan. I think it was $55 it brought my monthly bill to 95+ tax
Its not that bad now I also have unlimited texting AZ well. This month I used 4.6 gigs so far and 60 minutes and 3 texts and I have 5 days left I. My bill. Cycle
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App

princeasi said:
Dayum I thought I consider myself a heavy data user and I generally use a tad over 2gb/month lol.
Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
2 gigs is enough for anyone who doesn't stream a lot of video. When I see these people who use 5 gigs in 10 days I know they have to just be living on netflix.
Sent from my Nexus Prime using XDA Ultimate App

Im a power user i stay on wifi when i can or use 2g if its just a basic app like xda or pulse been 3 weeks only used 1.45gb
Sent from the USS Enterprise using LT.Com Worf

I dont do alot of video althought I do do some dut I am constsantly on Sirius-xm and fm radio. Also I use weather and news widges hat take up alot. I also use google music which You can make music available off line but that doesnt always work it still uses alot. I do a fair amout of going on youtube but in no way it is close to most of my data
Charlie

Thanks for all the input. Like I said I have no available wifi at work and also tethering to my netbook frequently during the month too. I like I'm just going to run into t mo and see about either upgrading data plan or adding a tether plan. I'll post a result. Also for those rooted, try out the miui rom. Much different from when I flashed it months ago. Fast, smooth, stable, and just well... Works! Never been so happy
Sent from my MIUI G2x

hockeyman18 said:
Let's face it, 5 gb of data is nowhere near enough for one month! I've seen posts about how to rid your phone of being throttled. Before I go through with this, has anyone done this yet? Looking to see if t-mobile caught on to anyone and said anything. Thanks!
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I totally agree! I originally thought I was grandfathered in to the old unlimited data plan, but I got throttled about 15 days into last month! Essentially makes the phone completely useless for anything but calling or texting which oddly enough is not what I use this phone for the most. I got a google music beta account last month, uploaded my entire collection and have been streaming over my phone at work. Apparently google does not compress the audio stream and it ate up my bandwidth quite fast!
The thing that gets me about this is that I have been paying for the most expensive plan they have, I'm now at almost 100 a month and I still have only 500 minutes, and am throttled at 5gb. It just seems like I get less and less as the price goes up. Once more they told me that the 10gb limit plan was not compatible with my plan??!?! WTF??? Granted, I would rather be throttled instead of charged for the overage, but I still feel like I am being completely jipped by this whole thing. They also told me when I was on the phone complaining, that they were now going to start charging me for tethering as well, REALLY?!?!?! I thought that was rather amusing, and would have laughed at the rep, if I wasn't so pissed off about rest of the conversation I was having with them.
Ironically they offer all kinds of t-mobile sponsored apps for HD video streaming and the like, which a heavy user might get maybe 1/3 of the month of use out of. I just really don't understand the direction that carriers are taking these days. Its definitely not in the best interest of the consumers.

It's so easy to get around tethering charges that they might as well not even exist. Even a friend of mine who's so tech-illiterate he doesn't even update his market apps figured out a way.
Sent from my Nexus Prime using XDA Ultimate App

ZenDragon80 said:
I totally agree! I originally thought I was grandfathered in to the old unlimited data plan, but I got throttled about 15 days into last month! Essentially makes the phone completely useless for anything but calling or texting which oddly enough is not what I use this phone for the most. I got a google music beta account last month, uploaded my entire collection and have been streaming over my phone at work. Apparently google does not compress the audio stream and it ate up my bandwidth quite fast!
The thing that gets me about this is that I have been paying for the most expensive plan they have, I'm now at almost 100 a month and I still have only 500 minutes, and am throttled at 5gb. It just seems like I get less and less as the price goes up. Once more they told me that the 10gb limit plan was not compatible with my plan??!?! WTF??? Granted, I would rather be throttled instead of charged for the overage, but I still feel like I am being completely jipped by this whole thing. They also told me when I was on the phone complaining, that they were now going to start charging me for tethering as well, REALLY?!?!?! I thought that was rather amusing, and would have laughed at the rep, if I wasn't so pissed off about rest of the conversation I was having with them.
Ironically they offer all kinds of t-mobile sponsored apps for HD video streaming and the like, which a heavy user might get maybe 1/3 of the month of use out of. I just really don't understand the direction that carriers are taking these days. Its definitely not in the best interest of the consumers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You and I are in the same boat. I use google music everyday including both ways on an atlantic city trip last weekend.. Ate my data alive. I'm also in a grand fathered plan which I may which out of. Heading into tmo after work today. I feel I'd have better luck in person than over the phone. Plus if they give me a hard time I'll root all their androids, install custom roms, and have customers go back to the store because it wasn't like the phone they saw
Sent from my MIUI G2x

throttling
Just my 2 cents, being well versed in corporate routing and switching, throttling is handle at a hard ware level either on the router by your ip address or on the swtich by your mac address. Doing anthing locally to your phone isnt going to bypass throttling in anyway. Youre taking a gamble trying to hack you phone to bypass this, if anything the only thing that your seeing is a placebo effect.

okay a couple of things first to those using the google musice beta you can make your whole music collection available offline so you dont use your data just look aty the settings and if you can do it over wifi so you dont use any bandwith.
Second to the people who want to change your plan and add gigs to data you have to change your plan to the new value plan which is cheaper by about 10 bucks then you can add a unlimited data with a 10 gig high speed cap. I did it yesterday over the phone and I usually have no luck with customer service but I actually got one who spoke perfect english and understood exactly what I wanted to do. I almost fell over of a heart attack it was great. They transfered the rep that I usually dealt with in my local store. The new ass that replaced him was tring to sell me the LG slate which is a sweet tablet but not what I wanted. He had the balls to tell me that there was a $300 migration fee to change to the new value plan from my at the time current even more 500 plan I was on. When I told the customer service rep that she started laughing and said he was full of **** and not in those words. Cant wait to go back to that store and give him a pice of my mind. but anyway sorry to go off on your post I hope this helps ytou guys with the G music problems.
Charlie

Mister Hat said:
Its done from tmobile's servers. No way around it ): unless you can sneak into the servers at tmobile's headquarters on a stealth mission and hack their mainframe by holding "x".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i'm sorry, you say that and all i can think of is Freddy Wong's vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_wS497CIQ

[Q] 50MB data. sufficient?

I was thinking of getting the HTC Radar like next month and was thinking if how much data to purchase. But I've come across on the net, that many users have said that there is still the data hog for Mango. So I have the following questions:
1) Has the problem been solved? Like are there any ways to stop the data hog?
2) Do you think 50MB will be enough? I wont be using yahoo and weather etc. Just updating Facebook and Twitter, and using wifi when I'm at home.
Thanks in advance!

iwanthp said:
I was thinking of getting the HTC Radar like next month and was thinking if how much data to purchase. But I've come across on the net, that many users have said that there is still the data hog for Mango. So I have the following questions:
1) Has the problem been solved? Like are there any ways to stop the data hog?
2) Do you think 50MB will be enough? I wont be using yahoo and weather etc. Just updating Facebook and Twitter, and using wifi when I'm at home.
Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
at the beginning of our plan with att (200Mb) my wife and I tried to save as much as possible. But we were hitting each 50Mb within a month. We are not heavy users and normally get easily over 100Mb by now, myself 150Mb and higher.
I would say 50Mb on a smartphone is probably going to be very painful.
btw. I did not see an increase higher than 10-15% on Mango compared to NoDo.

From personal experience 50mb a month is about as sufficient as Borats Swimsuit.

Absolutely not. There is no way you can fit all your needs inside such a small bandwidth cap. You can easy use all 50 withing first few hours on youtube.

Klikerko said:
Absolutely not. There is no way you can fit all your needs inside such a small bandwidth cap. You can easy use all 50 withing first few hours on youtube.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree, it'd be difficult, maybe impossible, but who seriously spends hours on youtube on their cell

God, last month I had 1030MB, the month before 790. Notice the Mango increase.I can´t imagine fitting into the 50MB.

As others have said, 50MB just will not be enough. It would be pointless having any modern smartphone with that much of a limit on your data. I have a 1GB allowance and that is more than meeting my needs right now. That is with browsing the net for an hour or two a day (mostly facebook and XDA) I stream radio for around 5 hours a week, and my phone is set to automatically set to sync email etc every hour. All this comes to around 600MB a month. Since Ive now unlocked my HTC 7 Pro I can now tether to my laptop, this will most likely lead to me upping my data plan soon. But even for a light data user I would recommend no less than a 250MB a month plan at the very least.

I run on pay-as-you-go data packets. A 30MB data packet usually lasts me about two weeks. The trick is to turn off 3G when you're not using it (say, you're in your house and you're using WiFi). I usually keep the 3G off except when I want to actively browse the web and no WiFi is nearby, and turn it off again when I'm done.
It's definitely possible if you just browse and use Twitter and Facebook. Streaming audio, using maps for navigation, and other data-heavy activities obviously won't be enough for 50MB.

oops sorry for the late reply. Thanks to all who replied here. think I'll just get a plan with more data. Since I'm kinda a twitter/fb addict.

More tethering issues

So I gave into the emails and texts and finally called AT&T and upgraded to the 4GB Data Pro. When I had my Captivate running Serendipity I tethered all the time and nothing was ever said. I got my Infuse running Infused ROM and almost imediately got texts from AT&T.
Anyhow, I use a ton of data and got tired of fighting the issue. Just another $20 out of my pocket and no more drama. Does anyone actually know what they are looking at to notice that the phone is being tethered even rooted, no bloatware, and custom ROM?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using xda premium

Here's something I posted in another thread about my experience with a tethering SMS from AT&T and the subsequent call to them...
I just got a text message from AT&T letting me know I'd automatically been switched over to a tethering plan since I was still tethering. The rub here is I have not tethered my phone a single time in the last 3 months! I actually have a 2GB plan on my old Captivate that I've been using. I called into AT&T and the lady I got was really cool. She said there must be something triggering the tethering alert on their side and she filed an extension for me so I wouldn't get switched over automatically.
So, I don't know what AT&T is really using to detect tethering, but it's indeed throwing out false positives. I've also only used 809MB since the beginning of my billing cycle (November 21), so I doubt very much that it's excessive data usage. I use some interesting things like wifi connected file managers and remote web desktop, but surely those don't trigger it (?).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
At one point in the call she asked me if I was running the latest software update. I told her I don't run AT&T software on my phone, and I replaced it with a custom image. Oddly enough, she didn't say anything about that.
Clearly you do tether your phone, and it was probably right that they detected you doing so. I just wonder what's got them incorrectly flagging accounts...

I tried a few shots with wifi tether 3.1 on DlevROM or Bionix (should be one of them) to open several web pages on my laptop. As I am on the 200M plan, so I didn't use it heavily. So far I haven't got message form AT&T yet. Hopefully that helps.

From what I've read, they've been detecting tethering by user agents in browsers, and you could give a false positive by selecting to show desktop in a browser that supports different user agents. There's a thread somewhere named "AT&T Wised Up" that explains all this
Froggys go ribbet

jesi.james said:
From what I've read, they've been detecting tethering by user agents in browsers, and you could give a false positive by selecting to show desktop in a browser that supports different user agents. There's a thread somewhere named "AT&T Wised Up" that explains all this
Froggys go ribbet
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, that'd do it. I've got my VPN in full effect, and now I actually am going to tether over it. At least if they try to change me next time, they'll have a little more valid reason for it!

ccandjy said:
I tried a few shots with wifi tether 3.1 on DlevROM or Bionix (should be one of them) to open several web pages on my laptop. As I am on the 200M plan, so I didn't use it heavily. So far I haven't got message form AT&T yet. Hopefully that helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On the 200m plan, please don't scream outrage when they catch you or you go over your limit.

That's wierd. I've been on infused up to a week ago, and never got a warning about tethering. I used my phone as a mobile hotspot as well. I was averaging 1500 mb a cycle.
I wonder what they use to detect it?

Okay. For example. If I use my mobile ap for tethering on my infuse phone with a custom rom , I goto my mac and connect to it and download approx 900mb file. Should that be okay?
Sent from my SGH-I997 using XDA Premium App

I have 2gb plan and it resets on the 11 every month.
Sent from my SGH-I997 using XDA Premium App

download the myatt app and watch your usage. if you are on an unlimited plan and go above 2.5gb, they may accuse you of tethering. just call em and tell em off. if you are on froyo, you can easily be ratted out by tether manager, so delete that. i dont know if any gingerbread leaks have a more native carrier entitlement check, but i know that cm7 and miui are safe to tether. if you get harassed by att without evidence, atleast pretend to be outraged.
browser useragent strings are not evidence of tethering. android makes it easy to change the useragent to desktop, or ipad, or many other options to increase website compatibility. i have yet to see anybody being accused based on that but i believe that viewing usage this close is a violation of privacy. not only that, but in any case where encryption is used, such as https, this is considered an expressed request of privacy on the part of the user.

I just had my infuse for less then a month. I rooted and deleted the tethering files. I haven't got any text from att for tethering. I tether with my laptop around 1 gb almost end of the month

I use this "beta" tethering app and do about 300-400 mb downloads at times. idk if you guys wouldl ike to try it out ill share it. couldnt find anything good in the market.
/end message
/end user
/end of all mankind

thephoneguy206 said:
I use this "beta" tethering app and do about 300-400 mb downloads at times. idk if you guys wouldl ike to try it out ill share it. couldnt find anything good in the market.
/end message
/end user
/end of all mankind
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wifi tether is an awesome app. Just keep in mind it uses adhoc to tether, and that doesn't work [natively] with all devices you might try to connect to it.
For those that don't know, here's the link to the Google Code site for the app attached in the previous post. http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/

I take it that WIFI Tether is not supported on MIUI/CM7?
Downloaded & installed this version: (3.1-beta 8) http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...tail?name=wifi_tether_v3_1-beta8.apk&can=2&q=

Bjray said:
I take it that WIFI Tether is not supported on MIUI/CM7?
Downloaded & installed this version: (3.1-beta 8) http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...tail?name=wifi_tether_v3_1-beta8.apk&can=2&q=
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use 3.1 beta 6 and have for quite a while and it works just fine. I use it on CM7 on both my Captivate and my Infuse. Haven't tried beta 8. Maybe it's got a problem.