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Thank you forums, I love you! Anyone get caught by Sprint for tethering?

10GB+ a month and no complaints from Sprint. My phone is my primary source of internet.

sweet thats good, i was prob pushing 2 gB max and was getting worried about getting caught...

How do u know how many gbs your using? For example, how much is 10gbs? how many hours on the internet is that? Or does it even work like that. Just curious cuz im tethering now as of yesterday I finally got it working and LOVE IT but dont wanna get a suprising $1000 phone bill,lol.

aaron130 said:
How do u know how many gbs your using? For example, how much is 10gbs? how many hours on the internet is that? Or does it even work like that. Just curious cuz im tethering now as of yesterday I finally got it working and LOVE IT but dont wanna get a suprising $1000 phone bill,lol.
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You can just keep track of the MB count at the bottom of the screen of the tethering program.

Is that up or down?? Also this story makes me VERY nervous!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7141935.stm

also i think in your bill it states how much data is being used

Been tethering for a couple of years with no issue. I never could get internet sharing to work to WiFi router then ps3 though. for a while, I had Bluetooth modem. setup, so blackberry would auto connect when at the house. With WiFi tether though, BAMMM. I play socom with it, and watch Justin tv; its sick I tell you. Sick

aaron130 said:
How do u know how many gbs your using? For example, how much is 10gbs? how many hours on the internet is that? Or does it even work like that. Just curious cuz im tethering now as of yesterday I finally got it working and LOVE IT but dont wanna get a suprising $1000 phone bill,lol.
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Every website carries a different ammount of data, some websites are less than 1 MB or 1/1000 (ok, so 1/1024) of a GB. Some are far more than that especailly with animations and flash. Streaming Audio and Video eat up big chunks.
You can go into Device Self Maintenance on your phone and it has an option to show data usage. I think some ROM's remove it though. And I think that because my phone is the primary line I have options that my wife's hero doesn't. Bill pay and what not.
Then again, Fresh ROM 1.1 doesn't have it in there and I have no clue what to tell you to select to find it. You could also log into Sprint.com and look at your bill, it has current data usage.

I too am happy to see the 10GB+ post. I've been tethering for over a year, first with windows mobile, and now with wifi-tether. On windows mobile things always went slow most of the time, so I never passed up 5 gigs in a month. Now that I have the hero, I've been using it a lot more since it is my primary source of internet. It goes really fast and I love it. I'm happy that now I don't have to worry quite so much about the usage. I don't see myself hitting the 10gb mark any time soon.

WiFi tethering is uber cool

what is the Best way to tether my android without paying extra?

I just got the verizon fascinate, and cancelled my home phone and internet. what is the best way to tether it so i can surf the web on my home PC. i am looking to avoid the charges of using the hotspot feature from verizon.
any help would be greatley appreciated..
thanks so much!

If you tether and use heavily, you'll be noticed. I'm not sure if PDANet is available to Verizon Android users (Much like we t-mo guys can't have skype default install from market...), but look it up.

bennettm89 said:
If you tether and use heavily, you'll be noticed. I'm not sure if PDANet is available to Verizon Android users (Much like we t-mo guys can't have skype default install from market...), but look it up.
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What do you consider "heavily"?
also, i did try out PDAnet last night with it. it works great.i LOVE the texting feature...

dvigue said:
What do you consider "heavily"?
also, i did try out PDAnet last night with it. it works great.i LOVE the texting feature...
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Well... In reality, it's not what I consider heavily, it's verizons perception of heavy usage...
If you're going to browse the web for four hours, maybe send a few e-mails and pull forty-five songs from Miley Cyrus, that may look a little suspicious.
The beauty of me using T-mobile and vanilla Android on my Nexus one is the ability to tether "for free" through Settings -> Wireless and so on. They send me texts/emails/letters sometimes regarding my data usage and say that they throttle me back until the next billing cycle. I see no large performance degradation though.

Wow I've never gotten a notice. They tell me they can't track my usage cause it's unlimited. Consider this heavy I tether every night and sometimes use xbox live. I also download lots of roms and have played mmos.
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what do you guys average for data usage?

AT&T wishes they never offered UNLIMITED DATA PLANS!
Well I got the C&D order letter using BARNACLE of course I played dumb and called to retain my unlimited plan....
So I had to add tether on another phone my lady has which was not on unlimited.
Simple solution LOL when I have a large file I send the url to my Atrix with unlimited data plan then download that massive file on the unlimited plan phone.
Once done downloading I simply transfer the file as if it were USB attached storage or pull the SD etc.. but that is NOT TETHERING and I still get the files I wish...... GOTCHA AT&T!! Oh and of course since you NOW have rules about content downloaded I abide and only download what is permissible (ie. purchased music etc....) I hit 105GB this last cycle and plan on even more this month.
AT&T is a horrible company when it comes to ethics and morals..... they LIE alot!

bennettm89 said:
If you tether and use heavily, you'll be noticed.
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Ha!!! This is so far from the truth I can't help but laugh....
1. pdanet has a feature to keep your carrier from noticing your usage called "hide tether usage'
2. I used my phone for 4 days straight when my internet went out due to bad weather....I streamed dozens of movies, downloaded music, browsed, sent emails, and I even downloaded Uncharted 3...all while tethered. I have yet to get any letters/emails/calls/texts from sprint telling me to stop using so much data....and I don't use the 'hide tether usage' option.
3. there are rumors that carriers CAN'T see your tethered usage from and android...they can only monitor iphones. I have yet to see hard evidence one way or the other, but it's been said many times that no carrier can monitor android usage to the point of knowing whether it's tethered or not.
Interesting read about PDAnet & verizon android devices
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/02/pda...ing-use-but-verizon-users-may-be-out-of-luck/

They can tell by the OS on the phone I believe as they had the dates I tethered..

T-Mo Data throttling

Let's face it, 5 gb of data is nowhere near enough for one month! I've seen posts about how to rid your phone of being throttled. Before I go through with this, has anyone done this yet? Looking to see if t-mobile caught on to anyone and said anything. Thanks!
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Just use WI-FI when you can. A lot of places offer it free.
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At home I always do, but days at work and weekends kill me during the month. There's no open wifi near my work... In NYC... Go figure
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Its done from tmobile's servers. No way around it ): unless you can sneak into the servers at tmobile's headquarters on a stealth mission and hack their mainframe by holding "x".

Dayum I thought I consider myself a heavy data user and I generally use a tad over 2gb/month lol.
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there is a way to do it but from what I read it works for some people and not for others. So I think it is a crapshoot. I would be really careful. I agree that 5 gigs is not enough. I am almost over my limit with 10 days to go and that is with using wifi alot of the time. I was thinking of doing that fix also but I dont kmow. Also I dont think anyone had problems with tmo.

I wouldn't say that hack works for anyone. I got the text a few months ago about halfway through my cycle, but my speeds were never throttled although I was told they were. I would say that is what happened with those it "worked" got.

Yeah cI just dont like the idea of messin with the system that much and I mean my phone's system. I dont mind doing root and doing little things but my phone has run like a champ since day one and I got it about two weeks after relese date. I waited for the GB update to come and my phone still ran fine after that although I did not see much improvement. I was not impressed with the GB update so I rooted the phone. I am afraid that if I keep messin with it I am going to ruin a good thing. I should be happy with what I got. I am running xboarders tweeked ota and it runs like a champ. If I screw around and brick my phone I have no one to blame but myself.

I just got off the phone with customer service and it turns out that you. An get a 10 gig data cap plan. I think it was $55 it brought my monthly bill to 95+ tax
Its not that bad now I also have unlimited texting AZ well. This month I used 4.6 gigs so far and 60 minutes and 3 texts and I have 5 days left I. My bill. Cycle
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princeasi said:
Dayum I thought I consider myself a heavy data user and I generally use a tad over 2gb/month lol.
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2 gigs is enough for anyone who doesn't stream a lot of video. When I see these people who use 5 gigs in 10 days I know they have to just be living on netflix.
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Im a power user i stay on wifi when i can or use 2g if its just a basic app like xda or pulse been 3 weeks only used 1.45gb
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I dont do alot of video althought I do do some dut I am constsantly on Sirius-xm and fm radio. Also I use weather and news widges hat take up alot. I also use google music which You can make music available off line but that doesnt always work it still uses alot. I do a fair amout of going on youtube but in no way it is close to most of my data
Charlie

Thanks for all the input. Like I said I have no available wifi at work and also tethering to my netbook frequently during the month too. I like I'm just going to run into t mo and see about either upgrading data plan or adding a tether plan. I'll post a result. Also for those rooted, try out the miui rom. Much different from when I flashed it months ago. Fast, smooth, stable, and just well... Works! Never been so happy
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hockeyman18 said:
Let's face it, 5 gb of data is nowhere near enough for one month! I've seen posts about how to rid your phone of being throttled. Before I go through with this, has anyone done this yet? Looking to see if t-mobile caught on to anyone and said anything. Thanks!
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I totally agree! I originally thought I was grandfathered in to the old unlimited data plan, but I got throttled about 15 days into last month! Essentially makes the phone completely useless for anything but calling or texting which oddly enough is not what I use this phone for the most. I got a google music beta account last month, uploaded my entire collection and have been streaming over my phone at work. Apparently google does not compress the audio stream and it ate up my bandwidth quite fast!
The thing that gets me about this is that I have been paying for the most expensive plan they have, I'm now at almost 100 a month and I still have only 500 minutes, and am throttled at 5gb. It just seems like I get less and less as the price goes up. Once more they told me that the 10gb limit plan was not compatible with my plan??!?! WTF??? Granted, I would rather be throttled instead of charged for the overage, but I still feel like I am being completely jipped by this whole thing. They also told me when I was on the phone complaining, that they were now going to start charging me for tethering as well, REALLY?!?!?! I thought that was rather amusing, and would have laughed at the rep, if I wasn't so pissed off about rest of the conversation I was having with them.
Ironically they offer all kinds of t-mobile sponsored apps for HD video streaming and the like, which a heavy user might get maybe 1/3 of the month of use out of. I just really don't understand the direction that carriers are taking these days. Its definitely not in the best interest of the consumers.

It's so easy to get around tethering charges that they might as well not even exist. Even a friend of mine who's so tech-illiterate he doesn't even update his market apps figured out a way.
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ZenDragon80 said:
I totally agree! I originally thought I was grandfathered in to the old unlimited data plan, but I got throttled about 15 days into last month! Essentially makes the phone completely useless for anything but calling or texting which oddly enough is not what I use this phone for the most. I got a google music beta account last month, uploaded my entire collection and have been streaming over my phone at work. Apparently google does not compress the audio stream and it ate up my bandwidth quite fast!
The thing that gets me about this is that I have been paying for the most expensive plan they have, I'm now at almost 100 a month and I still have only 500 minutes, and am throttled at 5gb. It just seems like I get less and less as the price goes up. Once more they told me that the 10gb limit plan was not compatible with my plan??!?! WTF??? Granted, I would rather be throttled instead of charged for the overage, but I still feel like I am being completely jipped by this whole thing. They also told me when I was on the phone complaining, that they were now going to start charging me for tethering as well, REALLY?!?!?! I thought that was rather amusing, and would have laughed at the rep, if I wasn't so pissed off about rest of the conversation I was having with them.
Ironically they offer all kinds of t-mobile sponsored apps for HD video streaming and the like, which a heavy user might get maybe 1/3 of the month of use out of. I just really don't understand the direction that carriers are taking these days. Its definitely not in the best interest of the consumers.
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You and I are in the same boat. I use google music everyday including both ways on an atlantic city trip last weekend.. Ate my data alive. I'm also in a grand fathered plan which I may which out of. Heading into tmo after work today. I feel I'd have better luck in person than over the phone. Plus if they give me a hard time I'll root all their androids, install custom roms, and have customers go back to the store because it wasn't like the phone they saw
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throttling
Just my 2 cents, being well versed in corporate routing and switching, throttling is handle at a hard ware level either on the router by your ip address or on the swtich by your mac address. Doing anthing locally to your phone isnt going to bypass throttling in anyway. Youre taking a gamble trying to hack you phone to bypass this, if anything the only thing that your seeing is a placebo effect.

okay a couple of things first to those using the google musice beta you can make your whole music collection available offline so you dont use your data just look aty the settings and if you can do it over wifi so you dont use any bandwith.
Second to the people who want to change your plan and add gigs to data you have to change your plan to the new value plan which is cheaper by about 10 bucks then you can add a unlimited data with a 10 gig high speed cap. I did it yesterday over the phone and I usually have no luck with customer service but I actually got one who spoke perfect english and understood exactly what I wanted to do. I almost fell over of a heart attack it was great. They transfered the rep that I usually dealt with in my local store. The new ass that replaced him was tring to sell me the LG slate which is a sweet tablet but not what I wanted. He had the balls to tell me that there was a $300 migration fee to change to the new value plan from my at the time current even more 500 plan I was on. When I told the customer service rep that she started laughing and said he was full of **** and not in those words. Cant wait to go back to that store and give him a pice of my mind. but anyway sorry to go off on your post I hope this helps ytou guys with the G music problems.
Charlie

Mister Hat said:
Its done from tmobile's servers. No way around it ): unless you can sneak into the servers at tmobile's headquarters on a stealth mission and hack their mainframe by holding "x".
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i'm sorry, you say that and all i can think of is Freddy Wong's vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_wS497CIQ

Large data usage while on wifi

I am at work today and connected to wifi. I have three 3g watchdog app and it just showed a 158mb download on my data plan. I also got the email from at&t saying I went over my plan because I only have a 200 mb plan. I am running infused 2.1.0 rom so I don't know if this was the gingerbread update. How can I find out what this huge data download was??? Thanks
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nickg2027 said:
I am at work today and connected to wifi. I have three 3g watchdog app and it just showed a 158mb download on my data plan. I also got the email from at&t saying I went over my plan because I only have a 200 mb plan. I am running infused 2.1.0 rom so I don't know if this was the gingerbread update. How can I find out what this huge data download was??? Thanks
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1. Unfortunately I don't think u can track like that. AT&T notes data chunk, but not track what exactly the data is.
2. Software OTA updates sent to phone by AT&T, though counted by 3G watchdog or similar apps, do NOT count towards data usage limits.
It looks more like u had some random misbehaving app in the background that was doing this, or maybe some online music streaming software working in the background (could happen when put into background and not exiting out).
U cud try talking to AT&T and getting this off ur bill after u get the bill.

I have the same issue runnng Froyo stock Rom. Last week i received an email said i used over 200mb limit. checked Att.com and showed 245mb used 3 hours ago. I called Att and they said they will take a note on this case. I used Iphone for over 3 years and never used over my limit just check mails and read news.

Android does a lot more cloud syncing than iOS and has more apps and widgets that are able to refresh things in the background. I would never recommend that anyone tries to use an Android phone with a 200mb plan unless you're very tech savvy and know how to control your apps and syncing properly. The 2GB plan is only $10 more per month...

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Android does a lot more cloud syncing than iOS and has more apps and widgets that are able to refresh things in the background. I would never recommend that anyone tries to use an Android phone with a 200mb plan unless you're very tech savvy and know how to control your apps and syncing properly. The 2GB plan is only $10 more per month...
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+1
Take off things like weather widgets, etc, or atleast make them update once a day, and not every couple hours.

I understand times are tough and wifi is free but I just don't understand why people get android/smart phones with a minimal data package. I for one have unlimited, if att would ever force me to downgrade id cancel my contract altogether and get one of those $30 deals or whatever.
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I had the minimal plan at first. After a couple weeks I realized that the 200 megs was just not enough.
I used 600 last month and my usage is mostly email, facebook, and a few picture uploads.
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lol...
I am up to my 5th gb this month.
I am going to track it better next month...my usage more than doubled this month
I honestly feel it was poor management on my end...much dloading of new roms and apps without paying attention to my wifi connection....but I haven't really paid attention.

You could try downloading Onavo from the market. It will track data usage by app.

[Q] 50MB data. sufficient?

I was thinking of getting the HTC Radar like next month and was thinking if how much data to purchase. But I've come across on the net, that many users have said that there is still the data hog for Mango. So I have the following questions:
1) Has the problem been solved? Like are there any ways to stop the data hog?
2) Do you think 50MB will be enough? I wont be using yahoo and weather etc. Just updating Facebook and Twitter, and using wifi when I'm at home.
Thanks in advance!

iwanthp said:
I was thinking of getting the HTC Radar like next month and was thinking if how much data to purchase. But I've come across on the net, that many users have said that there is still the data hog for Mango. So I have the following questions:
1) Has the problem been solved? Like are there any ways to stop the data hog?
2) Do you think 50MB will be enough? I wont be using yahoo and weather etc. Just updating Facebook and Twitter, and using wifi when I'm at home.
Thanks in advance!
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at the beginning of our plan with att (200Mb) my wife and I tried to save as much as possible. But we were hitting each 50Mb within a month. We are not heavy users and normally get easily over 100Mb by now, myself 150Mb and higher.
I would say 50Mb on a smartphone is probably going to be very painful.
btw. I did not see an increase higher than 10-15% on Mango compared to NoDo.

From personal experience 50mb a month is about as sufficient as Borats Swimsuit.

Absolutely not. There is no way you can fit all your needs inside such a small bandwidth cap. You can easy use all 50 withing first few hours on youtube.

Klikerko said:
Absolutely not. There is no way you can fit all your needs inside such a small bandwidth cap. You can easy use all 50 withing first few hours on youtube.
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I agree, it'd be difficult, maybe impossible, but who seriously spends hours on youtube on their cell

God, last month I had 1030MB, the month before 790. Notice the Mango increase.I can´t imagine fitting into the 50MB.

As others have said, 50MB just will not be enough. It would be pointless having any modern smartphone with that much of a limit on your data. I have a 1GB allowance and that is more than meeting my needs right now. That is with browsing the net for an hour or two a day (mostly facebook and XDA) I stream radio for around 5 hours a week, and my phone is set to automatically set to sync email etc every hour. All this comes to around 600MB a month. Since Ive now unlocked my HTC 7 Pro I can now tether to my laptop, this will most likely lead to me upping my data plan soon. But even for a light data user I would recommend no less than a 250MB a month plan at the very least.

I run on pay-as-you-go data packets. A 30MB data packet usually lasts me about two weeks. The trick is to turn off 3G when you're not using it (say, you're in your house and you're using WiFi). I usually keep the 3G off except when I want to actively browse the web and no WiFi is nearby, and turn it off again when I'm done.
It's definitely possible if you just browse and use Twitter and Facebook. Streaming audio, using maps for navigation, and other data-heavy activities obviously won't be enough for 50MB.

oops sorry for the late reply. Thanks to all who replied here. think I'll just get a plan with more data. Since I'm kinda a twitter/fb addict.