To overclock. Which one iis better?
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Ok. I don't know if it was the kernel or what but f4 phantom bricked my touchpad. The screen was blue and I couldn't restart it. It scared me so bad. But it just now began working again and the first thing I did was remove f4.
SENT FROM MY DINC2 RUNNING CM7 overclocked to 1.6ghz
Haven't had issues with F4, actually runs both cores full time which is an advantage compared to Warthog. I've never gotten F15 to work correctly.
Running f15 at 1.8 no issues at all..
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Haven't had issues with F4, actually runs both cores full time which is an advantage compared to Warthog. I've never gotten F15 to work correctly.
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isn't that going to eat up your battery?
Not really because it's on demand. At idle both cores run at 400MHz.
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Not really because it's on demand. At idle both cores run at 400MHz.
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Then what does the Warthog kernel do?
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Then what does the Warthog kernel do?
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Warthog idles core 1 at 292 or so and cuts off core 2 until needed. I originally used F15c Eagle to OC and recently switched to Wathog to try it out. Both Oc'd to 1.728Ghz. I have never gotten either of them to activate core 2, even with polling set to 1 sec.
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Warthog idles core 1 at 292 or so and cuts off core 2 until needed. I originally used F15c Eagle to OC and recently switched to Wathog to try it out. Both Oc'd to 1.728Ghz. I have never gotten either of them to activate core 2, even with polling set to 1 sec.
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Warthog activates core 2 when necessary I believe, I've seen it jump to 1.7ghz
JohnnyChuttz said:
Warthog idles core 1 at 292 or so and cuts off core 2 until needed. I originally used F15c Eagle to OC and recently switched to Wathog to try it out. Both Oc'd to 1.728Ghz. I have never gotten either of them to activate core 2, even with polling set to 1 sec.
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polling frequency is not too important. just have to do something like watch a hd video. then go back and check. the number will be back down again. but what u have to do is to click on the graph, and u'll see it peaks to 1.7 when needed.
i've used f15c, and it froze a few times. been using Warthog for a day now, so far no freeze.
havent tried F4 yet. i'm happy with the performance and stability now, so i might not change it unless there's a big difference.
Use f15c ... it works awesome , if you dont see the second core do anything is because the second core is not being used! you can test it openning lets say 3 youtube videos at the same time then go to govnah and you will see second core working! after you install the kernel if second core says n/a just unnistall the kernel reboot and try phantom after you install restar again.. I guess using phantom running both cores at the same time will drecrease battery a little bit.
had problems getting f15 to oc above 1.5, would give me errors if I tried to up it. Switched to warthog and my TP has been 100%. I'm very happy with it. I have not tried F4.
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had problems getting f15 to oc above 1.5, would give me errors if I tried to up it. Switched to warthog and my TP has been 100%. I'm very happy with it. I have not tried F4.
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I tried f4 but I believe since both cores run at full speed all the time battery will decrease faster not sure how much faster , I have tried movies, games, 4 youtube videos at the same time some of multitasking and with 1.7 is more than enough everything runs perfect with f15 .. I would say you are covered with warthog
Here's a test showing that F4 performs the best out of any of the kernels.
http://forums.precentral.net/hp-tou...k-benchmarking-kernel-fastest-comparison.html
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I tried f4 but I believe since both cores run at full speed all the time battery will decrease faster not sure how much faster , I have tried movies, games, 4 youtube videos at the same time some of multitasking and with 1.7 is more than enough everything runs perfect with f15 .. I would say you are covered with warthog
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The only way both cores are at full speed all the time is if you set the governor to performance. I believe it defaults to on demand so it should only only use higher frequencies when necessary.
I prefer F4 Phantom at the moment.
used F4 at 1.8 for few hours now and it works smooth. Difference between F15c and F4 is quite noticeable .
I have updated from uberkernel to f4 @ 1.72 , seems very stable.
Battery life on the f4 kernal is amazing even with performance mode on. I can get about a day and a half with consistant usage (I mainly use it as a pdf viewer for my textbooks, sprinkled in with heavy web usage here and there when I zone out). I can only imagine the battery life with eagle and warthog if I stuck with it longer... 6000mAh battery ftw.
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I agree, the battery life, screen, and processor, are the strong features of this tablet. Even with webOS it's a nice, handy tablet.
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Hi. My question us what CPU speed can I use before the desire s takes damage? Thanks
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Would not go over 1200mhz for general use but in the end it comes down to heat and chip quality. Some chips will run faster and produce less heat then others, you'll have to test yours! Don't over volt even if it is possible?
That's about all I can give you on the matter.
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um... just a quick question... why do You need more power? I mean what for??
n64 and psx emulators - full speed, gameloft's dungeon hunter 2 and rainbow six - smooth as my wifes ass, all the flash movies on web or divx offline - no problem, general use - as good as gingerbread can deliver.
I was thinking about which dual core beast shall I buy and ended up with this pocketable and powerful beauty.
... back to the topic - I wouldn't overclock it over 1.5 ghz, even then only for demanding tasks. battery life would decrease as well and I wouldn't trade that for a bit more fps.
Okay. Thank you guys
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um... just a quick question... why do You need more power? I mean what for??
n64 and psx emulators - full speed, gameloft's dungeon hunter 2 and rainbow six - smooth as my wifes ass, all the flash movies on web or divx offline - no problem, general use - as good as gingerbread can deliver.
I was thinking about which dual core beast shall I buy and ended up with this pocketable and powerful beauty.
... back to the topic - I wouldn't overclock it over 1.5 ghz, even then only for demanding tasks. battery life would decrease as well and I wouldn't trade that for a bit more fps.
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Good response, I bought a Desire S recently too and feared the "single core" 1 GHz CPU wouldn't be much faster than my Legend clocked at 768 MHz, after all it is only 232 MHz difference. Couldn't have been more wrong. The phone is a beast.
1.2 ghz is a good speed if you wanna overclock (& also this speed is more than enough)
1.4-1.5 ghz is the limit, anything more than that is very unstable and can cause damage to your cpu
Hey guys. I have a Desire HD. Although they're different phones, i'm sure the internals are almost exactly the same, bar few differences. As such, the cpu should also be the same. I tried out different cpu speeds. I kept my phone at 1.72ghz for a couple of weeks. The phone got pretty hot when using Wifi and such, but didn't get too hot. I'd say the safe point is 1.5ghz but at the stock voltage. Works for me, should work for you guys too I can get 1.7ghz at 1325mv, which is good enough for me I didn't get random crashes etc. My persona highest on this phone was around 2.1 ghz, which was insanely high, the phone was super fast, but got hot blazing hot and the phone started flashing orange led lights and then shut down for like 10 minutes straight. I thought it was gone but...nope, was lucky thank god LOL
Always be careful. If you have insurance, then go ahead and by all means clock the hell out of it if you don't mind a decrease in battery life. But if you have no insurance, and bought it sim-free...i'd suggest 1.3ghz...better be safe than sorry, wouldn't you agree?
the phone started flashing orange led lights and then shut down for like 10 minutes straight. I thought it was gone but...nope, was lucky thank god LOL
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Haha, bet that was a ball-shrinking moment. Made me laugh reading it.
But seriously, considering the potential damage & the native performance of the DS you wouldn't want to go crazy really.
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Hi!
I succesfully overclocked my DS to 1,5GHz(first to 1,3GHz, than to 1,4GHz), and it's fully stable with stock voltages. I use virtuous unity 1.29.0, and tweaked the built in OC daemon. Tested with stability test v1.5, and no problems after 30 minutes. Temperature is around 40 C(plugged in, charging, and running stability test).
What do you think, can I use it for 24/7? The temperatures are not high, and the phone is rock stable, so is it safe?
Thanks for answer.
ffodi said:
Hi!
I succesfully overclocked my DS to 1,5GHz(first to 1,3GHz, than to 1,4GHz), and it's fully stable with stock voltages. I use virtuous unity 1.29.0, and tweaked the built in OC daemon. Tested with stability test v1.5, and no problems after 30 minutes. Temperature is around 40 C(plugged in, charging, and running stability test).
What do you think, can I use it for 24/7? The temperatures are not high, and the phone is rock stable, so is it safe?
Thanks for answer.
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why do you need to run it on 1.5ghz? it is very fast at 1.2ghz
& also 1.5ghz will consume more battery & if you put some load on the cpu like a little gaming or a lot of browsing it can get heated up
overclocking more than necessary isnt good as there can be hidden damage to the chip(even if the processor doesn't get heated up)
read post #3 here
so always go easy on the overclocking
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why do you need to run it on 1.5ghz? it is very fast at 1.2ghz
& also 1.5ghz will consume more battery & if you put some load on the cpu like a little gaming or a lot of browsing it can get heated up
overclocking more than necessary isnt good as there can be hidden damage to the chip(even if the processor doesn't get heated up)
read post #3 here
so always go easy on the overclocking
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Thanks for the answer! I overclocked it to 1,5GHz becouse I like it if everything is fast as lightning.
I know it can consume more battery, but it's not a problem for me.
I've read that post, it's useful thanks, but i think if everything is on stock voltage it cant hurt the cpu. I overclock my desktop rig also since ~15 years, and never had problems with that. I know that it's not the same, but I hope there will be no problems with that.
Hey guys,
Ive been using SetCPU since it was fixed for the sensation. I am curious about what others have observed as far as battery life and performance goes.
I am running 1.8Ghz with a cpu voltage of 1.265V (1265000uV).
My battery doesnt last all that long despite all the profiles I have in place. I guess thats expected when you overclock by that much, huh? Is it worth it though?
Im sure more of you out there have experience to share. Im not talking Quadrant and benchmark scores, Im talking REAL use!
I am beginning to feel that dropping the frequency down may be in order since I cannot find anything that needs 1.8Ghz to work on this phone. Plus, less frequency means less required voltage. That would mean more battery!
Anyone care to chime in with their overclock frequency + voltage and experience?
Matt
I'm also interested in getting some input from other users, without having to clog up the respective overclocking threads in the Development section.
Yesterday after work, I set up the 1.5Ghz Undervolted option using utking's tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168707). I didn't see too much need to push my CPU too hard, and a stable UV always piques my interest.
I created a couple of basic SetCPU profiles (screen off, battery below 20%, temperature < 50C), and scaling on demand up to 1512Mhz, my phone took about another 7-8 hours of moderately heavy use (Navigation, Maps, Yelp, photos, etc.) before it was on its last legs.
Bear in mind that I've been using the Anker 1900mAh battery. But even after the OC-UV that I set up, this was at least as good of battery usage as before without any SetCPU or overclocking, and actually seemed to be a little bit better to be honest.
I just dropped down to 1.6Ghz @ 1.26V...
I couldn't keep my phone from freezing with anything less than 1.26V @ 1.6Ghz. We will see how this goes for a few days and compare to my previous 1.8Ghz @ 1.265V.
So far, speed seems to be FASTER than 1.8Ghz. My Quadrant score (only being used here for comparison reasons) was 2700 right off the bat, whereas 1.8Ghz would peak around 2700-2800 after several tries.
The carousel works much better! I can swipe through quickly and have it scroll with zero lag. I can also fast swipe and watch is spin nicely!
Google Earth and Maps is about the same as 1.8Ghz.
Before, at 1.8Ghz, I could probably get 16 hours out of my phone with VERY LIGHT use. (A few 2min phone calls, check mail throughout the day, check the web a little). I am charging the phone up and will report back later.
Matt
I went down from 1.62 UV to 1.5 UV,because I could not see any difference in general use nad in benchmarks(except Quadrant) and battery consumption is much bigger with 1.62 with exact same profiles on setCpu.I think that this is best compromise between speed and battery life and as far as I know this is native clock speed of 8260 Snapdragon.
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I just dropped down to 1.6Ghz @ 1.26V...
I couldn't keep my phone from freezing with anything less than 1.26V @ 1.6Ghz. We will see how this goes for a few days and compare to my previous 1.8Ghz @ 1.265V.
So far, speed seems to be FASTER than 1.8Ghz. My Quadrant score (only being used here for comparison reasons) was 2700 right off the bat, whereas 1.8Ghz would peak around 2700-2800 after several tries.
The carousel works much better! I can swipe through quickly and have it scroll with zero lag. I can also fast swipe and watch is spin nicely!
Google Earth and Maps is about the same as 1.8Ghz.
Before, at 1.8Ghz, I could probably get 16 hours out of my phone with VERY LIGHT use. (A few 2min phone calls, check mail throughout the day, check the web a little). I am charging the phone up and will report back later.
Matt
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How simple is it to temp-root and overclock? I am really only interested in overclocking to speed up Sense, and you said it performs better with a speed boost.
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Very,very easy,just read this tread :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168707
I have mine undervolted at VDD_1175000 and 1500MHz. I like it very much...makes a big difference in quadarant score, but not sure in reality how much faster. Battery life is fine (when the phone is on). Have not experiened FC's
I have modified eugenes batch file to push my kernel file and preferred speed after perma-temp-root and now is all in one click...
So here is a little update:
Its been about 8 hours since full charge and I am at 55% battery left.
1.6Ghz @ 1.26V, On Demand.
Ive been checking email, making a few calls, and surfing the net with both wifi and GPRS (was out of the network, away from 4G). I also played Angry birds for a little bit and showed off Google Maps and Earth to my Mom.
Now that Im back home, ive turned back on 4G...
Ive noticed a slight amount of hesitation while opening and closing things, but nothing bad.
I havent had any profiles kick in yet, but they will soon with the battery getting low. I will resist charging the phone and see if I make it through the night, using it as I need it. I will report tomorrow.
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I must be doing something wrong.
I am rooted and running LeeDriods 1.2 Rom. When I launch setcpu the only options i have are 1000 mghz? WTF am i doing wrong?
i think at LeeDroid 1.2 you must not use setcpu but Demon control?
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i think at LeeDroid 1.2 you must not use setcpu but Demon control?
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Hmmm, okay. I saw where set cpu was updated for the sensation in the latest release but it doesn't seem to support overclocking with this rom.
Shame that as i was about to get that rom and flash it onto my phone, glad i came in here now
Running Leedroid 1.0
Kernel @ 1.7ghz max, i have it set to 1.5ghz and 192mhz
Runs hot when i play finger racing or reckless racing or modern combat 2 or something intensive, but besides the heat, it drains just like it normally would to be honest, maybe a little quicker, definite speed increase in overall user experience, without an OC the rom just flops, better than stock but just crap, OC is needed.
Is there any particular reason the second core always drops down to 216mhz? This happens with any custom kernel I run, currently running moray with electra kernel at 1.5Ghz using pimp my cpy to OC.
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Is there any particular reason the second core always drops down to 216mhz? This happens with any custom kernel I run, currently running moray with electra kernel at 1.5Ghz using pimp my cpy to OC.
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when it's needed, it goes to the required frequency...
sounds reasonable but I will notice some lag and stuttering while I am using the xoom, i will open os monitor and the second core is sitting at 216, i move it manually to 1.5Ghz and the tablet is more responsive...
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Sorry I should have been more specific about the situation. When I say the 2nd core drops to 216 I mean the max frequency drops to 216 so the 2nd core does not clock up any higher unless I manually intervene.
same on my xoom with tiamat 2.2.2 and setcpu. i have two profles , screen off with 216-456mhz and other with 216-1200mhz. only the first score is over clocked after switched on, the second stucks at 216-456mhz. i contacted the developer of setcpu someting around 2 weeks a go, but no solution till now.
okay i see wat u mean...i just checked and i'm getting the same results... it sits on the min freq, all laggy, then when i manually set the frequency, it's super responsive like it shud.... i'm over-clocking to 1.6 btw
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same on my xoom with tiamat 2.2.2 and setcpu. i have two profles , screen off with 216-456mhz and other with 216-1200mhz. only the first score is over clocked after switched on, the second stucks at 216-456mhz. i contacted the developer of setcpu someting around 2 weeks a go, but no solution till now.
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I don't think that it strictly a SetCPU problem. I also have an Advent Vega and have used SetCPU to overclock it. Had almost the same problem, except both cores were stuck at 216Mhz.
Tried multiple overclocking apps and have had the same problem with all of them. Device fine until it goes into sleep mode, CPU stuck at 216Mhz when brought out of sleep. Even setting the minimum setting to 456Mhz still resulted in the CPU being stuck at 216Mhz on wakeup.
so i guess the big question is whether it is the kernels (I've tried a few) or in the way these apps OC a dualcore processor...It makes me wonder about the OC apps though, they were all built for single core originally and in each of them you only set 1 max and 1 min speed. OS monitor is the only app that displays both cores, at least that I have used, but it doesn't set an OC value at boot. Maybe if one of the smart devs on here could comment maybe even just to shed some light on this
Is there no solution to this issue yet?
Is it a tegra fault/problem?
Is it a Kernel issue?
Would flashing back to a stock kernel fix it? (if that is even possible...)
hey i found it on XDA portal news today
go check here
it shuts off your one core of CPU
test it & post your results here :silly:
till now it has successfully switched off my core 1....... because i've just installed few minutes ago
shardul.phatak said:
hey i found it on XDA portal news today
go check here
it shuts off your one core of CPU
test it & post your results here :silly:
till now it has successfully switched off my core 1....... because i've just installed few minutes ago
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Is this a battery saving measure?
If so does it work?
Performance?
atrix2 running majicmod
galaxy tab 2 3113 running cm10.1 nightlys
iPhone 4 traded for some computer work... just sits there...
cant say about battery (not much diff.) .... but performance has been affected lil bit
I tried that app for a few days. It seemed like it would prevent the phone from waking back up, because the screen wouldn't come back on. Evey time I would have to pull the battery and reboot. I finally uninstalled it and haven't had that problem since.
Isn't hotplug governor have that feature? so you dont affect performance and stability
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i tried several governor & felt a lil decreased performance with single core being OFF
but anyway we can oc it n have our performance back ( in my opinion )
because i havent oc'd yet
shardul.phatak said:
i tried several governor & felt a lil decreased performance with single core being OFF
but anyway we can oc it n have our performance back ( in my opinion )
because i havent oc'd yet
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I used to own a rarz i xt890 (2 ghz single core) and i can tell you that an OC'd core will never be as good as two cores working together , i run mine at min 300 mhz max 800 and never noticed any lag at all, phone lasts almost 12 hours ,on heavy usage (mp3 about 7 hours, like 3 or 4 hours of 3g browsing and like four or five 15 min calls) ,at night my batt drops 3% or 4 % (6 hours sleep) with wifi on, i think hotplug governor does a damn good job at saving batt and keeping your phone smooth as it could be with an locked bootloader
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My Tab is clocked to 1.2 Ghz. It gets hot when using my tablet for about 10 minutes. It hasent re booted or anything. Is there anyway to cool it down withought going back to my stock clock (1008 Mhz)? ■_■
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How high is your screen brightness and how intensive is the apps your using? also what are your governor and I/O scheduler set to? mine rarely gets more then lukewarm and I've got the 7" and overclocked.
I'm running mine at stock speeds, in an Otterbox case. I have run it for hours on end and haven't noticed the slightest bit of heat buildup. And that's inside a pretty well sealed case with very little ventilation / air circulation. Personally, I'd go back to stock speeds if it's getting this hot. IMO, there isn't much benefit from only a 200Mhz increase. To me, the cons outweigh the pros and isn't worth the risk of damage.
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How high is your screen brightness and how intensive is the apps your using? also what are your governor and I/O scheduler set to? mine rarely gets more then lukewarm and I've got the 7" and overclocked.
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My screen brightness is ¼ full. It gets hot after 10 mins of just watching videos on YouTube and browsing the web. Governor: Performance. I/O: cfq.
By the way, how much did you overclock it? i only OCed my one 200 Mhz more :S. If you need to know what ROM i am using, it is called Zap Blaster.
You said you have your governer set to performance, that means your cpu is pegged at 1200 megahertz the whole time. Thats your problem. Use on demand or interactive.
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You said you have your governer set to performance, that means your cpu is pegged at 1200 megahertz the whole time. Thats your problem. Use on demand or interactive.
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Ok, thanks so much! i hope this will keep my Tab cool. I will test it on 1.3Ghz too! ^^ Thanks a bunch!!
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You said you have your governer set to performance, that means your cpu is pegged at 1200 megahertz the whole time. Thats your problem. Use on demand or interactive.
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What about the I/O Scheduler? Should i change that to something?
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My screen brightness is ¼ full. It gets hot after 10 mins of just watching videos on YouTube and browsing the web. Governor: Performance. I/O: cfq.
By the way, how much did you overclock it? i only OCed my one 200 Mhz more :S. If you need to know what ROM i am using, it is called Zap Blaster.
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I have clock cpu up to 1.480ghz stock roms, kk boot kernel,
Try watching YouTube, play gta game and nfs mw, while charging for 10 minutes
Ya table so hot, I checked the temperature on setcpu app, 49c°
Smelling plastic burn in a back,
Try your self...
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I have clock cpu up to 1.480ghz stock roms, kk boot kernel,
Try watching YouTube, play gta game and nfs mw, while charging for 10 minutes
Ya table so hot, I checked the temperature on setcpu app, 49c°
Smelling plastic burn in a back,
Try your self...
Send From nokia n9 QUAD BOOT : Maemo, Meego, NITDroid, and Kubuntu.
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hi I have one tab 2 p3100 too and I listen about kk boat but not understand well what is kk boat. it's kernel?
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NexTech00 said:
My screen brightness is ¼ full. It gets hot after 10 mins of just watching videos on YouTube and browsing the web. Governor: Performance. I/O: cfq.
By the way, how much did you overclock it? i only OCed my one 200 Mhz more :S. If you need to know what ROM i am using, it is called Zap Blaster.
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Hotplug Governor and Deadline I/O overclocked at 1.3GHz. ZERO heat issues, EXCELLENT battery life (hotplug, disables the second core when not needed).
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Hello,
I just got myself a Tab 2 7.0 about 10 days ago. After using it for a while i found that it's back gets heat while putting on charge.
Even though it holds a battery like around 9.5 hours of On Screen time and 2 Days of stand by with WIFI and Carrier signal ON. Also i've notice that putting tab under power saving mode and under charge catches heat faster then regular charging mode.
So my question is, Battery performs well? Or it's faulty? What normal range of temp. for Tab 2 P3100 while on charge. Let me know if anyone has anything to advise with.
Tab 2 7.0 still under warranty around half a year.Also forgot to mention, Tab is Running Stock 4.1.2 JB
Thanks.