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Is this thing supposed to get burning hot?

Like, even just using it as a phone, it heats up. Is this normal?

I get the same thing, it gets really really really hot. When I use it as gps, or go online especially.

yeah, its normal. never heard of it not happening

I cooked breakfast on mine this morning.

I put mine in my pocket... made myself sterile.

Brendo said:
yeah, its normal. never heard of it not happening
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I've got a Fuze and it was white hot too. I took it back after about a week and just got a replacement. This new one is not heating up. Although now the problem I have with this one is the 3G connection is not as strong as it was before AND google maps doesn't work for sh!t!! I'm looking for a fix.
Marc

Sounds like your 3G isn't really connecting, make sure you try all the forum posts on enabling and forcing 3G/HSDPA connections. Whenever I run mine on 3G it becomes a nice little hand warmer. Force it down to GPRS and it's not hot and has a useless data connection (but good for when the battery is almost dead).

Brendo said:
yeah, its normal. never heard of it not happening
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Normal? Extreme heat in an electronic device is normal? I don't think so. If any device you have is getting warm enough to be of concern TAKE IT BACK AND EXCHANGE IT!
BTW - mine doesn't get hot. I can feel warmth if it's charging, for instance, but I wouldn't call it hot.

The Norm
thehyecircus said:
Like, even just using it as a phone, it heats up. Is this normal?
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Pretty much yes they do especially when using heavy power draining functions ie: Wifi, GPS, etc.
Some of the claims here of cooking breakfast, becoming sterile maybe slightly over the top and I have never been actually burnt by the device. But I have yet to use a HTC device that did not get hot when using the above functions for a period of time.
Just my experience and I certainly would not be using one if it boiled my nuts.

It´s not normal for a electonic device to become that hot, some heat is normal but not EXTREME HEAT!
Try flashing another radio and see if that helps, if not then you should send it back for repair!

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branko.savic said:
It´s not normal for a electonic device to become that hot, some heat is normal but not EXTREME HEAT!
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mmmm, ever put something made of plastic near the heat exhaust vent on your laptop?? Most modern electronic devices that are based on a CPU generate exteme heat that is why they have cooling, heat sinks, etc.
I'm certainly not going to get into an argument about this but the bottom line here is that they do generate certain levels of heat. It definately should not be enough to burn you though.

BlueAnt1958 said:
mmmm, ever put something made of plastic near the heat exhaust vent on your laptop?? Most modern electronic devices that are based on a CPU generate exteme heat that is why they have cooling, heat sinks, etc.
I'm certainly not going to get into an argument about this but the bottom line here is that they do generate certain levels of heat. It definately should not be enough to burn you though.
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Yes but a laptop has X amount more power then a phone! And you know, if the laptop didnt have a FAN to cool it down it would not last you even a few minutes!
However, our phones are designed without fans and are not supposed to get EXTREMLY HOT!
Let´s face it, no electronic device should get extremly hot, if it does then something is wrong, or something will be wrong with it soon!

Mine gets warm, but never hot even when using the GPS or wifi for over an hour. During a 20 minute telephone conversation it will get warm, but again not hot.

after 20 min of phone call, connected to wifi, on ac adapter, it got warm, never hot.

the hottest mine got was looking at vid porn via SkyFire browser. It looked really great... but oh man... the phone was sizzlin'.

Well I don't know if my phone is getting warm or hot. It's not an unpleasant warmth, just odd.
And Skyfire? I thought Opera Mobile was the preferred browser of choice.

My phone doesn't get extremely hot, mildly warm while surfing net over 3G, but that is it.

thehyecircus said:
Like, even just using it as a phone, it heats up. Is this normal?
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This is absolutely not normal and is one of the reasons i returned mine and went back to my Treo. I've used lots of high end phones and this is the first and only one that just starts toasting by itself when doing simple stuff.
Strange thing is that everyone i know with a T.P complains about the same thing. I could be watching Youtube for less than 5 mins and it starts boiling..what gives. I Youtube on my Treo (via Coreplayer) and it never gets hot.
I'd say this is a problem or issue with most of all T.Pro's. Sad really, such decent hardware specs.

I've also been experiencing heat coming from the back of the device, but only when I hold calls over around 15 minutes or if I'm using the internet extensively. I also notice it can create a good amount of heat when it charges. Usually when electronic devices have excessive heat it's due to a build up of dust.

LordLugard said:
This is absolutely not normal and is one of the reasons i returned mine and went back to my Treo. I've used lots of high end phones and this is the first and only one that just starts toasting by itself when doing simple stuff.
Strange this is that everyone i know with a T.P complains about the same thing. I could be watching Youtube for less than 5 mins and it starts boiling..what gives. I Youtube on my Treo (via Coreplayer) and it never gets hot.
I'd say this is a problem or issue with most of all T.Pro's. Sad really, such decent hardware specs.
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So what am I to think? I have a few guys telling me NO! And the rest of you saying "It's normal" and ONE guy saying he exchanged his in and his new one DOES NOT GET HOT AT ALL!!!
what the hell!! I have like two weeks until my 30 days is up.

Never ever touch your crt screen with phone in hand!

I was sitting here with my phone in my hand connected to USB and went to clear dirt from my monitor. My phone was in my left hand and my right was on the monitor. My hands were a bit damp. When I touched the monitor I heard a LOUD buzzing sound and a spark came from my phone into my hand! Now I have a burn mark in my hand! I AM NOT KIDDING! It felt as bad as being hit by a wall outlet!
AGAIN! IM NOT KIDDING! My heart stopped for a brief moment!
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Wierd! VERY...

Welcome to static electricity 101
Does the room with the PC in it have carpets?

Ah after the initial shock i have settled down. It seems that the monitor's static discharged into the ground in the usb cable. Electricity will follow the path of least resistance

Thats weird. But at least you have a killer story to tell. I still have mine about the time I got electrocuted from plugging in faulty christmas lights. Great icebreaker.
Dave

iremember the time i tried to fellate a plug socket, honestl how was i to kno it has electricity in it
oh the memories

And this one time, in band camp...

statics should never be able to give you such a big chock
statics only cary a few miliamps for a very short period of time
only up to 100mimiamps across the heart could be a possible
threat to ones life
i would not trust that tv longer then i could throw it

i used to do this a lot when i was a kid,
take 2 fine copper wire (usually from discarded ac to dc adapters)
wrap it around a pencil or pen, remove them from the pen/pencil and open the spirals up slightly. hang on the side of the (dusty)CRT monitor in a + shape. Turn the monitor off and on - voila!!!

Update*
Seems that the house doesn't have a ground. I know certian CRTs have a grounding harness around the screen to reduce static and transmission of rays. It seems with repeated testing the screen is building up a massive amount of static on the screen every 5 minutes when the screen is on. This is without turning the screen on or off. The air in the house is at 87% humidity, 67 degrees F with carpeted floors. The monitor is a old compaq 15" crt.
it seems without proper grounding the monitor is keeping a massive amount of static unchecked. There is also thousands of volts in the monitor and the CRT glass contains massive amounts of lead. Can anyone think that the monitor glass isn't grounded and there is a voltage leak? Hmm..
Its been a week or so and I still have a slight burn mark on my hand. Last time I touched a doorknob i didnt get any scarring

Yea, I bent over a horse fence once, not only did I not see the electric wire above it, it connected with the top of my head! I woke up and could not remember where I was or how I got there! About five min later I could walk agian! Note to self...... Horsefence BAD!!!!!
Good times, good times!

Reminds me of the time I decided to play with my tesla coil after getting out of the shower and standing bare foot in a puddle of water. Didn't think a tesla coil could hurt you. I learned different lol... Or the time I took an electrical socket apart while it was still live "granpa it makes my fingers tingle a bit" ... "shh, I turned it off at the breaker box I swear". "Hmm... lemme lay a screwdriver across the leads..." *FLASH BZZZZZZZZ*
Seriously though, get some grounded plugs!

Ha ha,
Reminded me of when I sold my last house. Part of the moving out process was removing all of my new ceiling fans. In my bedroom I hadn't yet bought the replacement fixture so I left the wires dangling.... BAD IDEA...
Walked into the room and directly under the fixture mount, wires contacted with my head. It was a shocking experience to say the least!

rockerrock said:
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Seems that the house doesn't have a ground. I know certian CRTs have a grounding harness around the screen to reduce static and transmission of rays. It seems with repeated testing the screen is building up a massive amount of static on the screen every 5 minutes when the screen is on. This is without turning the screen on or off. The air in the house is at 87% humidity, 67 degrees F with carpeted floors. The monitor is a old compaq 15" crt.
it seems without proper grounding the monitor is keeping a massive amount of static unchecked. There is also thousands of volts in the monitor and the CRT glass contains massive amounts of lead. Can anyone think that the monitor glass isn't grounded and there is a voltage leak? Hmm..
Its been a week or so and I still have a slight burn mark on my hand. Last time I touched a doorknob i didnt get any scarring
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That was my first thought, no ground. Lazy electrician.
Do you live in a place where homeowners can do electrical work themselves? Depending on how your walls are structured it may not be that hard to fix the ground yourself. I boosted a few of my circuits to 20 amps when I got an electric lawn mower, it's not to hard. That was all in the basement though so things were easily accessible.

rockerrock said:
Update*
Seems that the house doesn't have a ground. I know certian CRTs have a grounding harness around the screen to reduce static and transmission of rays. It seems with repeated testing the screen is building up a massive amount of static on the screen every 5 minutes when the screen is on. This is without turning the screen on or off. The air in the house is at 87% humidity, 67 degrees F with carpeted floors. The monitor is a old compaq 15" crt.
it seems without proper grounding the monitor is keeping a massive amount of static unchecked. There is also thousands of volts in the monitor and the CRT glass contains massive amounts of lead. Can anyone think that the monitor glass isn't grounded and there is a voltage leak? Hmm..
Its been a week or so and I still have a slight burn mark on my hand. Last time I touched a doorknob i didnt get any scarring
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You indicated that the humidity level in you house is at 87%..... I don't mean to question your integrity or judgment but a humidity level of 87% is only appropriate in a bathroom after a hot shower or in a heated conservatory/greenhouse. If the humidity in your house is really that high for an extended period of time you are sure to have mold/mildew problems warped furnishings etc.
It may be time for a new hygrometer either that or a new hvac system.

speedy1979 said:
You indicated that the humidity level in you house is at 87%..... I don't mean to question your integrity or judgment but a humidity level of 87% is only appropriate in a bathroom after a hot shower or in a heated conservatory/greenhouse. If the humidity in your house is really that high for an extended period of time you are sure to have mold/mildew problems warped furnishings etc.
It may be time for a new hygrometer either that or a new hvac system.
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Gets that humid here sometimes if you open the windows (louisiana). AC usually runs like a river and drains away most of it though.

This is entertaining and all, but the important question is, how did your phone take it?
I once killed the touch screen on a device by going down a tubular plastic kids slide
(So now when I take the kids to the park and they want me to go down the slide, I put the phone down in a safe place)

The first of all, i think the monitor isnt grounded... your monitor is old and you have no carpets...
non of all are good for yourself...
you can look if the grounding of your home is good if yes, buy another monitor... and buy an carpet.....
if no just get your home grounded again!
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In an monitor is like 1000 volt... doesnt matter anyway, normally u dont get an shock if your monitor is grounded and is not old
but when an monitor isnt grounded... you can get an shock of like 230 volts on 16ampere....
its the normal voltage and ampere of an electro group in your home i think...
if it was only an statistic screen, it could be on minimal 3000 volts.... but thats anything u almost dont feel.... unless it is under the 2 mili ampere... when its higher you can feel it... and you can die after an little shock of 40+ volts on 100miliampere ...
so i think it was a little shock ... under the 100 mA but it could be like 10000volts...
next time, please use an volt meter
good story btw and hope you'll follow my guide
Don't die!

The house is my parents house. They don't take care of their stuff. I go over one in awhile and yes it seems they have some sort of mold issue because I get bad allergies if I stay over there..
The phone is fine, thankfully the discharge went right into the USB cable, now for the computer, I don't know if that usb port works, I haven't since tested it. The high humidity is attributed to numerous things such as a leaky toilet and while now it is winter and the air is dry, when it is over 40F, humidity frequently reaches 100% here.
I frequently remember working on computers growing up and getting shocked every time I brushed up against the steel case. Dangerous, indeed.
They buy the crappiest air filters for their furnace and smoke as well. I am lucky to be out of there. They won't switch to allergen filters because "they are too expensive" but ask them about changing their motor oil, they don't.
Which brings up this, They had a new SUV and my mother drives a lot, we had it since 2001 and it now sits at 263,000 miles. It has had 2 transmissions put in and a engine (threw rod) all due to improper maintenance. If this is any indication of habits on their behalf, then the house ground is the least of their issues.
I must defend them in some regard, They aren't nasty people, is that they have bent over for the last 20 years and have put work before family. They believe in the system and it has led to a failed family structure but still they remain the same.
Anyways, I do have a proper ground at home and use a nice UPS along with a "box fan filter" which i use a high quality filter taped to the fan. Sure, you can fight about aerodynamics and how this isn't the best way of doing it because the fan can't push air etc etc but it has at least reduced the amount of dust in the air and has made the air crisper. Of course the fan has a thermal switch and fuse so I don't have to worry about fires if it were to overheat. (I use allergen filters for furnaces).
We have 112V, maximum of 60 ampres per line. We have 220 going into the houses here but usually it's split into 112 for outlets and 220 @ 120A for things such as dryers and welders.

in that case, dieing with touching your phone and monitor will be easy indeed...
60ampere is a way tomuch for an normal electric wire in an home...
it has to be 16 because an wire/cable in the wall can be over heated to fast at higher when u use the full amperes....
an cable may be 85 celcius as most... but with 60 ampere you can get 360 celcius, that can but the rubber around the wire and could make fire on wood and on carpets...
be carefull, i shouldn't be happy to live in an dusty home with 360 celcius on wood
and whole not with the thoughts in my mind that i could die with touching ann monitor/tv while its connected to the computer and an phone in my hands whats connected to the same computer......
this because of an stupid electric group of 60!! Ampere....

Well all the outlets are fused to a certain amperage. As in, the normal amount allowed to come put of the socket is 10-15 amps before the magnetic fuse trips. The whole house shares a 60 amp line from the box and certain appliances can get up to and beyond 60 amps at 220V,
I may mention that the "official" output in the US is 110V but I regularly see 112 coming out of my outlets. Matter in fact, I see 80-160V coming out from time to time from "dirty' power, thanks to UPS's I don't have to worry about random crashes and it kicks on quite a bit.

Touch Pro Combusted!!

I've had my Touch Pro from Verizon since February but then in the last week or so, my phone would randomly get hot to the touch until the battery is pulled. So today I set my phone in the kitchen on the charger and then went to the front room to play some Call of Duty on the Xbox. After an hour or so, I noticed that the house was a little smoky so I got up and went to check outside to see if a fire was happening because I had all the windows open but to my surprise, no fires outside. After I stepped back into my house, I noticed the haze was still there but there was also a weird stench in the house as well. Right when I walked into the kitchen, there it was, in a flamming pile of plastic and silicon melted into my kitchen countertop. So I non chalantley walked over, unplugged the charger and took my cup of 7up and doused the fire out. After that, called Verizon customer care up and after 30 minutes of what I might assumed to be eyebrow raises throughtout the call center, they agree to give me a new TP on the house. The only resistance I had was that they wanted me to bring in a chunk of the phone for inspections but the phone was so melted into the counter that I would have to pop the counter off and bring it into the retail store, not happening!!! Moral of the story, dont piss off the phone by not giving it proper graphics acceleration drivers when there is a dedicated chip onboard.

Wow!!!
It´s unveliebable!!
My condolences for your device or what´s left of

WOW!
Did you notice anything unusual before the combustion happened (Like the device getting exceptionally hot, etc)?

eaglesteve said:
WOW!
Did you notice anything unusual before the combustion happened (Like the device getting exceptionally hot, etc)?
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if you read the first 50 words of his post youd think so

Inspire 4G CALIENTE' (hott)

Wow....just sharing my experience......scared me a little
I was using the Car Performance program with speedometer and had it on....so that means GPS was on to calculate speed and all that
I accidentally left it running and put it in my pocket.....I later on decided to check my phone
I pulled my phone out of my pocket and it was HOTTTTT
and at its last leg of battery power 1%
I can't believe I didn't feel how hot it was in my pocket :-?
I hope It doesn't start acting crazy :-(
Moral of this story.......don't leave your apps running unattended!

I've had similar experiences with the Tilt 1 phone. Listening to internet radio really got that thing cooking hot. In the belt holster, I couldn't even feel it.

zuriken said:
I've had similar experiences with the Tilt 1 phone. Listening to internet radio really got that thing cooking hot. In the belt holster, I couldn't even feel it.
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+1 My car doesn't have AC, and it's been in the 90's all week. I listened to Pandora on the way home (about 30 mins) and on day the phone actually rebooted due to heat.

.woot! my car doesn't have a/c either..............oh, that's not a good thing :-/
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Leaving Phone in Hot Car

I'm going on a backpacking trip, and I would like to bring my phone to use in the car on the trip there and back (it's something like 5 hours each way, so I would like to have something to do in the car).
I would like to leave my phone in the car during the actual trip (2 days). I know that heat can be bad for a phone, but would leaving my phone in the car be a bad idea? What's the best location for it? Trunk, glove compartment, under a seat?
The high for each day is listed as 80F, low of 50-60F, and the car most likely will be parked in at least partial shade.
Does anyone have experience with this / any recommendations?

Depends on how hot your car actually gets, which will depend on how much shade you're actually talking about. It's not just a matter of the electronics, it can also be the possibility of adhesives in the phone softening if the heat is too high. If possible I'd just find somewhere safe to keep it in your gear and take it with you.

Oh man, 80 degrees in the shade is nothing, well at least not to me since it gets up to over 100 here. Putting it in the trunk will keep it cooler because it won't be exposed to any sunlight.

Yeah, keeping it out of direct sunlight is key. I kept an old iPhone 3G in my car at all times (played music off it) in North Carolina, even in the mid-90 degree summers, and have never had any issues with it aside from the screen perhaps getting a little washed out. I would just stick it in the glove compartment on particularly hot days.

xur17 said:
I'm going on a backpacking trip, and I would like to bring my phone to use in the car on the trip there and back (it's something like 5 hours each way, so I would like to have something to do in the car).
I would like to leave my phone in the car during the actual trip (2 days). I know that heat can be bad for a phone, but would leaving my phone in the car be a bad idea? What's the best location for it? Trunk, glove compartment, under a seat?
The high for each day is listed as 80F, low of 50-60F, and the car most likely will be parked in at least partial shade.
Does anyone have experience with this / any recommendations?
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Ya' know what. Two years ago had same experience. Have Galaxy Ace and kept it in the box for accesories (in front of front passengers legs) and everthing went well. Hope helped you. Sry for bad english

754boy said:
Oh man, 80 degrees in the shade is nothing, well at least not to me since it gets up to over 100 here. Putting it in the trunk will keep it cooler because it won't be exposed to any sunlight.
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I've actually read reports that the trunk can get just as hot or close to the same temp as the inside of the car. on a 95 Deg day it could be 120 in the trunk :/

Turn it off when you leave it in the car.
Sent from a digital distance.

yeah at least turn it off, because the battery will live longer though

Sorry I never responded sooner.
I just got back from the trip, and everything worked out great. I left the phone in the trunk of the car, parked in the shade, and there were no problems when I got back. This is at least partially due to the shade and the cool-ish weather.