Back Stab HD - Bugs - Xperia Play Themes and Apps

Do you guys experience major bugs with BackStab?
I got it as a free title but I don't even think people should be buying this piece of *%$&%
I constantly will find bugs in the game like falling down into walls/stands/houses and being unable to escape which means a restart of the level/check point.
Also often times when you are swimming it won realize you have left water > land so you are pretty much stuck in swimming mode, swimming around the land and once again having to restart the level.
These bugs have made it unplayable for me because I get frustrated every time I have to restart a level and for the same thing to happen over and over again.

Let Gameloft know about the bugs so they can actually fix them?

You poor sheltered child...

zerojay said:
Let Gameloft know about the bugs so they can actually fix them?
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They know about the bugs and haven't fixed them.
This was more a post wondering if other people are experiencing the same problems.

Yeah, I only paid £1 for it but it is pretty awful with bugs, glitches and quirks.
The swimming one is bad, don't know how many times I've literally swam around town.
I've played the game from start to finish, and there are plenty of really obvious bugs that I doubt will ever be fixed.
The game isn't even that good anyway.

It's no wonder that Sony walked away from Gameloft and chose a somewhat more prestigious brand like EA for the next exclusive games...

Logseman said:
It's no wonder that Sony walked away from Gameloft and chose a somewhat more prestigious brand like EA for the next exclusive games...
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Um... they didn't walk away from anything with anyone.

Well, Backstab was an XPlay exclusive when it was released... now they're not picking any more Gamelift's games for that, are they?

The game is pretty buggy and laggy, but it's a great attempt from Gameloft. There's not a lot of elaborate games like this for Android on our phone yet and they did a pretty decent job, much better voice acting and gameplay than say Assassins Creed: Altair's Chronicles.
I highly doubt Joe Sony walked up to John Gameloft and said, "HEY, YOUR GAMES SUCK! I'm gonna go hang out with Hank E.A. now!" Also, remember this is SonyEricssons platform, not Sony (SCE).

It is a shame because it seems to be the only original game they came up with.
There was so much hype about this game in my country and they really dropped the ball on this one.

I highly doubt Joe Sony walked up to John Gameloft and said, "HEY, YOUR GAMES SUCK! I'm gonna go hang out with Hank E.A. now!" Also, remember this is SonyEricssons platform, not Sony (SCE).
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Lol, I don't mean that they said that. However, Gamelift's share of attention to the Xperia Play has diminished greatly, and it seems that EA has been appointed as a privileged gaming partner. Besides, Sony's (the alma mater's) involvement with the Xperia devices is greater now, for example the Qriocity store is now preloaded on the new firmware.

That's not at all how this whole thing works and Gameloft's "share of attention" hasn't diminished at all, not sure where you get that from.

Well, in the Gamescom, only Let's Golf 3 was announced as being ported to the Xperia Play, if memory serves me. Meanwhile, EA announced three titles, two of them Xperia Play exclusives, and other developers announced two or three per developer. Here's a list sorted by developers: http://www.xperia.es/juegos/nuevos-juegos-para-xperia-play-anunciados-en-la-gamescom/

I think Gameloft has done pretty well converting their games to be "Xperia Play optimized", they already did it with most of their library - that makes sense - and now probably have to come up with (see: rip off, lol) new games.
It's nice to see more developers jumping on.

Logseman said:
Well, Backstab was an XPlay exclusive when it was released... now they're not picking any more Gamelift's games for that, are they?
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LOL, nothing to do with them "not liking" gameloft, its just the way set exclusives work (same as consoles), in this case gameloft was first, then Polorbit, now EA, it will go back to Gameloft soon.
I much prefer Gameloft Games over the crap EA Mobile bring out, EA games (that aren't even very good) that have been out for absolutely ages on iphone just ported over badly to android, wow! the excitement! we get the year old need for speed: hot pursuit while idevices get the latest need for speed: shift 2 lol. and we already know how the new fifa i going to turn out......
Gameloft are bringing out many more games on the Play in the coming months
Gameloft ---> EA Mobile

FK1983 said:
its just the way set exclusives work (same as consoles), in this case gameloft was first, then Polorbit, now EA, it will go back to Gameloft soon.
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That's also not how it works, not on the play, nor on the consoles.

Red_Kop said:
don't know how many times I've literally swam around town.
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LMAO That would be so funny to see someone pretending to swim around town.
I have this game but haven't had a chance to play it yet.
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I agree wih Logseman. I see a lot of EA promos with the play.

I swimming bug is really >_<
I am afraid to go into the water now

help i cant install back stab in my Xplay R800i why???

bachimon said:
help i cant install back stab in my Xplay R800i why???
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Would be nice if you can give a more detailed description... Like where is it stuck on.
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9mm to Xperia Play?

Do you guys think we will get '9mm' optimized for our Plays?
The game is available for iPhone, iPod and iPad today, and and gameloft says that the game will come to Android soon. What do you think?
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I would love to play this on my Play with real controls :d
i hope we do. i got it on my iphone 4 and love it. it woukd be great to try with the controller
Haha just the other day I was looking for this game for Android and came to the same conclusion as you.
I'm pretty sure they'll optimize it, since they already have a lot of games with working stuff, except the sliding aiming pad which sucks hard IMO.
Let's hope they don't take too long to release it.
netorino said:
Haha just the other day I was looking for this game for Android and came to the same conclusion as you.
I'm pretty sure they'll optimize it, since they already have a lot of games with working stuff, except the sliding aiming pad which sucks hard IMO.
Let's hope they don't take too long to release it.
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I think it works pretty good with the right settings and some training
Maybe I'm not used to it yet, right now I play NOVA2 from time to time and even if I try to move just a little bit and barely move my thumb I never get precise aiming - far objectives where they aren't auto-aimed.
Who really cares about gameloft games 3/4 of them suck the controls are just terrible I hope that some other game developer jumps on this phone and starts making games cause I refuse to pay for a game that doesn't even control properly. DARK in my opinion is the best shooter this phone has
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I hope so.I thought the game look alright
I really hope they do, but with the time taken to port order and chaos (1 month so far and still not officially available) I think we will be left behind or wont get it at all, lets hope they start taking it seriously. Why not just allow us to set our own controls, open it up and let me set hardware buttons to anything I want
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Who really cares about gameloft games 3/4 of them suck the controls are just terrible I hope that some other game developer jumps on this phone and starts making games cause I refuse to pay for a game that doesn't even control properly. DARK in my opinion is the best shooter this phone has
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I'm getting sick of your negativity about gameloft games in all the threads. Please, don't post if you only gonna talk like that thanks.
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I'm getting sick of your negativity about gameloft games in all the threads. Please, don't post if you only gonna talk like that thanks.
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+1 that guy *****es about everything lol
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I love most gameloft games - they have their faliures, but they create decent games across multiple platforms and multiple devices at a very reasonable price point. Plus if you have any problems they are very helpful and will give out free games as compensation.
AndroHero said:
+1 that guy *****es about everything lol
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Yeah in every f*cki* thread! I'm so sick of his yabbin'
_terror_ said:
I'm getting sick of your negativity about gameloft games in all the threads. Please, don't post if you only gonna talk like that thanks.
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There you go again. Stop with the personal attacks. People are entitled to their opinions and not everything is Daises and Roses. If you can take the bad with the good then maybe you should be the one to go away.
We are all adults and come here to discuss gaming and the Play. If enough people complain and someone from Gameloft reads it then maybe they will do something about it. You are not the Forum police so please stop the personal attacks.
Or are you a Dev from Gameloft and can’t take the feedback?
ncaissie said:
There you go again. Stop with the personal attacks. People are entitled to their opinions and not everything is Daises and Roses. If you can take the bad with the good then maybe you should be the one to go away.
We are all adults and come here to discuss gaming and the Play. If enough people complain and someone from Gameloft reads it then maybe they will do something about it. You are not the Forum police so please stop the personal attacks.
Or are you a Dev from Gameloft and can’t take the feedback?
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If people dont like gameloft games, don't buy them, the only way gameloft will get the message is when they get there bank statement XDA is about sharing ideas and experiences, not moaning about the same thing every day on every single thread, this thread is about the possibility of 9mm for the play, no1 cares what thatsupnow thinks of gameloft, it's not even relevent to the thread, and to be honest we have all heard what he has to say, again and again and again .......
"If people dont like gameloft games, don't buy them, the only way gameloft will get the message is when they get there bank statement "
Not really. Just like Call of Duty BO people buy it anyway. BO was the only game I have ever sold. I keep my games no matter what. People don't know the controls suck if they are not told. And after you buy the games it's too late.
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"If people dont like gameloft games, don't buy them, the only way gameloft will get the message is when they get there bank statement "
Not really. Just like Call of Duty BO people buy it anyway. BO was the only game I have ever sold. I keep my games no matter what. People don't know the controls suck if they are not told. And after you buy the games it's too late.
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What's the thread title? It's certainly not "What's your opinion on Gameloft games controls". I agree with the other guys. I own like 5 gameloft games, I know damn well that some of them suck balls for controls, I don't need to see it everywhere on these forums, only in appropriate places. This thread is about a single game, 9mm, which isn't even out for Android yet so you have no idea how it controls on the Play.
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What's the thread title? It's certainly not "What's your opinion on Gameloft games controls". I agree with the other guys. I own like 5 gameloft games, I know damn well that some of them suck balls for controls, I don't need to see it everywhere on these forums, only in appropriate places. This thread is about a single game, 9mm, which isn't even out for Android yet so you have no idea how it controls on the Play.
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Thaaaaaaaaaaaaank you!
of course people have the rights to their own opinion. It's a free world. But come on, we don't need people to talk **** on gamelofts controls in every single thread.
watch the tags of the official trailer and you'll find "sony", "ericsson", "xperia" and "play"
i think now it's clear whether it will be released on xplay or not
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watch the tags of the official trailer and you'll find "sony", "ericsson", "xperia" and "play"
i think now it's clear whether it will be released on xplay or not
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that could just be a coincidence
play - to play the game
xperia - arc/neo/mini etc
Fingers crossed you're right though

Star legends finally released and optimized for xperia play

Been waiting for this for a while and finally saw it in a news article somewhere, tried it out and outs even already been optimised for xperia play. been playing it a few hours and its really good, better than pocket legends and much more structured and fun than order and chaos! Really sticks it to gameloft lol!
Pick it up now on the market
https://market.android.com/details?id=sts.sl
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Great,thanks....... in download
it's Freeeeee
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Great,thanks....... in download
it's Freeeeee
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Oh yer, its free as well, just in app payments for extras, its still in beta at the moment though
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been playing this for over a month now. lol.
I think it's fun when they say "optimized por the Xperia Play" and then I see those horrible graphics.
The PSP, a machine launched 7 years ago (yes, SEVEN), with his 300 MHz CPU can laugh with the graphics of all games available for our 1 GHz-CPU device.
What the heck is waiting SCEE for doing something really good for our device?
Disclaimer: Yes, "the Xperia Play is not a console and blah blah blah", but if they launch a game for a such "powerful" machine, somebody could try to really optimize the graphics.
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I think it's fun when they say "optimized por the Xperia Play" and then I see those horrible graphics.
The PSP, a machine launched 7 years ago (yes, SEVEN), with his 300 MHz CPU can laugh with the graphics of all games available for our 1 GHz-CPU device.
What the heck is waiting SCEE for doing something really good for our device?
Disclaimer: Yes, "the Xperia Play is not a console and blah blah blah", but if they launch a game for a such "powerful" machine, somebody could try to really optimize the graphics.
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I agree with you there man, problem is devs want to get to as many people a possible so the want to make games that go on other devices, they change some bits so it runs smoother and add in control support but not much else
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Miles Wolf said:
I think it's fun when they say "optimized por the Xperia Play" and then I see those horrible graphics.
The PSP, a machine launched 7 years ago (yes, SEVEN), with his 300 MHz CPU can laugh with the graphics of all games available for our 1 GHz-CPU device.
What the heck is waiting SCEE for doing something really good for our device?
Disclaimer: Yes, "the Xperia Play is not a console and blah blah blah", but if they launch a game for a such "powerful" machine, somebody could try to really optimize the graphics.
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Battle bears +1 has better graphics than any psp game so do all the gameloft fps, anyway end of the day, if you want to play high end games, buy a console not a phone, do you really think real game developers are going to stop making £40+ games to make ones for £2.99 on the android market?? use your head
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Battle bears +1 has better graphics than any psp game so do all the gameloft fps, anyway end of the day, if you want to play high end games, buy a console not a phone, do you really think real game developers are going to stop making £40+ games to make ones for £2.99 on the android market?? use your head
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Battle Bears?
Graphics are aweful in that game. Super nintendo almost does better 3d graphics than that game
Gameloft graphics are very good though. Backstab is probably the best ive seen so far.
AndroHero said:
do you really think real game developers are going to stop making £40+ games to make ones for £2.99 on the android market?? use your head
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Lol there you have for example Square Enix launching games like Final Fantasy Tactics o Final Fantasy IV for iPhone.
And ALL the "serious" game developers are aproaching more and more to the mobile market, son better think a bit before saying things like "use your head", mate.
The Android Market is the least grossing of the big platforms. It's mot strange that many devs, particularly big names, skip Andtoid or go only to the big-dev-friendly Amazon AppStore.
Miles, FF Tactics and IV are just reskinnings of already done games. Creativity is scarce...
Miles Wolf said:
Lol there you have for example Square Enix launching games like Final Fantasy Tactics o Final Fantasy IV for iPhone.
And ALL the "serious" game developers are aproaching more and more to the mobile market, son better think a bit before saying things like "use your head", mate.
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Oh another port of final fantasy tactics or final fantasy 4, i bet that took squaresoft aggges to make They probably need the few dollars revinue the losses they have made this year either way i'm not your son, I'm probably older than you
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Miles, FF Tactics and IV are just reskinnings of already done games. Creativity is scarce...
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Yes, for example "War of The Lions" is a port from PSP, but well, those ports are better than Eternal Legacy...
It was just an example of a 2€ game from a company that makes 40+€ games. There are not only mobile comanies in the mobile market.
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either way i'm not your son, I'm probably older than you
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Well, then you should worry if a younger guy has to tell you that you should respect the other users and not to tell thos kind of things. And I am the one who has to use his head? Lol.
Just downloaded and had a quick go of it and its not bad, might be fun if I can persuade a friend to play. Seems like a sci-fi version of Pocket Legends basically.
thanks a lot this is nice games from gameloft.
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thanks a lot this is nice games from gameloft.
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This isnt by gameloft

List of Japanese PS Suite games leaked

http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/09/1...ices-detailed-watch-the-ps-suite-tgs-keynote/
The list looks fine, I guess some titles will not be released around here. Still, Arc the lad, Wild Arms and Popolocrois (*EDIT* NOT A PSP game!) are nice surprises.
-- Arc the Lad
-- Addie’s Present
-- Alundra
-- Gunner’s Heaven
-- Ganbare Morikawa-kun 2nd
-- Crime Crackers
-- Crash Bandicoot
-- Jet Moto
-- Tiny Bullets
-- Destruction Derby
-- Docchimo Mechamecha
-- Bealphareth
-- PoPoLoCrois
-- Magical Dice Kids
-- Everybody’s Golf 2
-- MediEvil
-- Rally Cross
-- Wild Arms
-- Wild Arms 2nd Ignition
-- DEPTH
-- KulaQuest
-- I.Q Intelligent Qube
-- Jumping Flash
-- PHILOSOMA
-- XI[sai]
mm a PSP game? Nicee! I had a PSP but i seriezly wasted money on it -_- only 2 games for it lawl.
I defo wouldnt mind buying GOD of War
*Facepalm* Popolocrois was originally a PSX title. My bad.
Seemingly it's a fairly big Japanese franchise, and we only caught a small glimpse of it on the PSP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PoPoLoCrois
AWWW
HOPES CRUSHED X_x
really hope they can be revived
Now I see why it felt so freaking old-school when I played it. It WAS old school.
Where's Wipeout? Dammit the one game I want that I STILL won't be able to get and they already have the damn game out everywhere but the US. (And no the iso doesn't work with the psxperia setup).
It's probably one of the titles which will launch in Europe and the US, as Wipeout has its fanbase there. keep in mind this is a Japanese list. We're sadly not going to see the likes of Ganbare Morikawa-kun 2nd, Bealphareth or Docchimo Mechamecha.
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It's probably one of the titles which will launch in Europe and the US, as Wipeout has its fanbase there. keep in mind this is a Japanese list. We're sadly not going to see the likes of Ganbare Morikawa-kun 2nd, Bealphareth or Docchimo Mechamecha.
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Wipeout has been out in europe for aggges. Thanks for the heads up by the way logseman, nice looking list of future games there. I spent many hours playing alundra in my youth. It's like zelda
None of the games are multidisc games. Actually, they're mostly from the first years of the console...
Where's all the OC ?
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None of the games are multidisc games. Actually, they're mostly from the first years of the console...
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Mmm Yes nice observation
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All that list SUCKS. Where are hits from psx? Where is Tekken, Final Fantasy seria, Harvest Moon, Castlevania, Gran Tourismo, Iss ??? Only Arc The Land and Wild Arms are a great titles - else are a crap... Sony - make something better - or Ps suite will be dead in next year...
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I'll post here what I posted in the other thread...
Hmmm, definitely a step in the right direction, although a few of those games are already available on the Android store, and I haven't even heard of a handful of them (I'd have trouble even pronouncing the titles ), and some are obviously original titles. The linked article also suggests that these titles are for the Japanese market so the list may change when it's released everywhere else...we could get different games or we might just get a truncated list.
But I mean Magical Dice Kids? Really?
I think in the next round of updates it's time they brought some more well-known PSX titles to the market...stuff like ridge racer or gran turismo, some final fantasy titles, twisted metal, tekken, metal gear, god of war...they need to bring out some more Playstation recognisable titles for these Playstation certified devices. I'm not convinced people are buying these devices to play games like I.Q Intelligent Qube. They sound like games you'd buy for a DS, not a PS device.
This is a good start but the next step in what titles are released will be crucial. New games also need to be coming in regularly.
Is XI devil Dice?
Devil Dice is a brilliant game.
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All that list SUCKS. Where are hits from psx? Where is Tekken, Final Fantasy seria, Harvest Moon, Castlevania, Gran Tourismo, Iss ??? Only Arc The Land and Wild Arms are a great titles - else are a crap... Sony - make something better - or Ps suite will be dead in next year...
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Have you noticed none of the titles you mention are Sony's property in any way? Popolocrois and Alundra are by no means crappy games either.
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Have you noticed none of the titles you mention are Sony's property in any way? Popolocrois and Alundra are by no means crappy games either.
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I can't speak for the other games. But i know alundra was published by Sony in japan .....
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All that list SUCKS. Where are hits from psx? Where is Tekken, Final Fantasy seria, Harvest Moon, Castlevania, Gran Tourismo, Iss ???
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The only game on that list that sony owns any rights to AFAIK is Gran Tourismo. Games like Final Fantasy/Tekken, would cost sony more to get a licence off the developers, than they would make back in revinue. Unless sony decide to let other publishers publish there own PS1 classics on the PS Store, then we might see alot of great games soon
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All that list SUCKS. Where are hits from psx? Where is Tekken, Final Fantasy seria, Harvest Moon, Castlevania, Gran Tourismo, Iss ??? Only Arc The Land and Wild Arms are a great titles - else are a crap... Sony - make something better - or Ps suite will be dead in next year...
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It's poopy.. Yes.. But no point in saying the obvious, all we can is just wait
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Medievil, Alundra, and Crash Bandicoot are the only familiar games to me.. I miss my PS1 console..
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Have you noticed none of the titles you mention are Sony's property in any way? Popolocrois and Alundra are by no means crappy games either.
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Ok - but it is PS Suit not Sony PS1 Suite. This games are on PS Store to PSP. And the price is almost the same. I unsderstand what are You talking about, but it is ridiculous what Sony is doing. For half a year no new games, that which are in store aren't a good titles, and new games that will be on ps suit are not better... I'm disappointed because Sony wanted to promote this phone, even gave him a Sony certificate. And then NOTHING. They forgot about us. Only talking about how great they are...
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A few things looking back on this:
1) this is the Japanese list, its very likely the list for the rest of the world will be different since they will want to sell games that people would recognize and buy. Hence why Crash Bandicoot comes with the Play in the US and Europe and not Mobile Suit Gundam or something (and yes I know MSG is now on TV in both places, but its not a phenomenon here like it is there).
2) I would bet money any PSOne games that you see in the current Playstation Store for the PS3/PSP would be open and Licensed to be put on the Playstation Suite which means Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil, Tekken, etc all would be possible to be available for the Play. As we have discussed in the past, Sony publishing those games is like free money for Namco, Capcom, et. al. because they are long since defunct and there is no production or overhead behind them.
So my conclusion, in North America and Europe this list is going to be different, and its entirely possible that third party titles that are already available in the PS Store could be amongst them.

I'm making a "This is an intervention" for all Gameloft game issues, did I miss any?

I'm making a "This is an intervention" for all Gameloft game issues, did I miss any?
I've presented a list of errors, issues and bugs across many Gameloft games... it's meant to be sort of like an intervention because Gameloft's amount of screw ups is almost as large as it's support.
Not to be mistaken, I do truly appreciate what they do and I'm not exaggerating when I say I've paid for every Gameloft game listed in the Xperia PLAY category of their store... but competence and quality control need to be stepped up big time. I've heard enough complaints on their own board (and here) to confirm this.
The thread's already active, and it's already got their attention, I just want to know if there's any issues with Gameloft's Xperia PLAY games that I've missed.
Gameloft Intervention Topic
I hope you make a difference with this. I think PC games devs need a wake-up call as well for certain "mistakes" constantly made.
Your post is pretty thorough. The only thing I would add is the BIG problem with Trophies/Achievements. I've already finished Dungeon Hunter 2 in easy, have ~5 achievements in Eternal Legacy, N.O.V.A 2 HD and Spider-Man and not one of those shows in my Gameloft live account.
Sacred Odyssey is truly the worst offender. The game is decent, but I haven't been able to get through the Fire temple since it FCs all the time!
I trully hope they listen to your plea.
I'm not exaggerating when I say I've paid for every Gameloft game listed in the Xperia PLAY category of their store...
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Your words say one thing, your acts another. If you purchase all of their catalog even in the knowledge that it's buggy, they don't have any incentive to improve, as they will understand their buggy catalog is successful.
The "wedding-crasher"
Mind your business and leave me alone.
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Your words say one thing, your acts another. If you purchase all of their catalog even in the knowledge that it's buggy, they don't have any incentive to improve, as they will understand their buggy catalog is successful.
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That would be true if not for the fact that these flaws aren't always immediately evident, and sometimes there's no prior behavior to use as a base for judgment.
After buying so many Gameloft games where at least the movement and menu control work, how could someone just 'expect' Eternal Legacy to have an issue where you always move diagonally?
After buying so many Gameloft games that, at the very least, manage to stay running without error, who could just instinctively expect that Sacred Odyssey would have force closing issues?
Or even better yet, who could expect that Order & Chaos would be released in the Xperia PLAY section without it actually having Xperia PLAY controls?
Someone who's only played Assassin's Creed, AVATAR, Star Batallion, Dungeon Hunter 2 and Spider-Man could very well think nothing but greatness of Gameloft out of only playing the games that aren't hugely flawed.
The 'boy who cried wolf' repeat offender logic isn't exactly applicable here... matter of fact it only works for a select few shooters... you've got to see both sides of the spectrum before making a call like that.
I took advantage of the promotion of three free games by Gameloft. I would say that with three games one can have a good idea where the quality level lies.
As a result: Let's Golf 2 was offensively poor, with a retarded AI and unpolished interface. I'm yet to play Backstab because it has no sound, no matter the ROM I use or the many download links I've been provided. Sacred Odyssey is just ok.
With that experience, I am certain that
1) One can only expect crud from GL.
2) I won't finance crud if I can avoid it: my taxes do that already.
And of course, all of this is not taking into account the Xerox processes that we all know and love.
I hate to sound cynical here but this thread implies that Gameloft doesn't have a QA department. Any game dev has a QA department and in spite of that a number of developers ship titles with known bug. Making a thread here is really just a sounding board for us. I could be wrong about this but even if Gameloft were to look at this post they're not inclined to correct there issue. Their business model seems to be about trying to bring multiple genres across multiple devices. If they can't get an exclusive at release like Backstab to work more effectively whats the chances that they take our complaints to task. For this reason I don't buy anymore Gameloft games. Why continually buy wack games from them then complain about it here, as if they don't know the problems of their games. Controls being wonky is not a bug that you discover after release.
Sir OP, there are things that I want added.
First, for Backstab. Lots of FCs, severe clipping, and resetting to Level 2 (while riding a boat with a girl, not sure if it was level 2) during force closes when in fact I have already progressed further and nearing the end.
Second, for Rainbow Six, player keeps commanding, "Go into position" without me telling them to, obliterating stealth approach. The green commands on the walls get highlighted by themselves without me issuing the order, thus, sending teammates to a position I do not want.
Another is teammates shooting on sight when the mission in fact is a covert operation, obliterating the entire mission and having to restart again.
General suggestion on their FPS games, why not copy Bad Company 2's key-mapping? Since we use the left-touchpad to move, why not use the D-pad for things LIKE Left for Previous Weapon, Right for Next Weapon, Down for Crouch. (God we still use touchscreen to crouch in MC2!) Besides, SE's idea in introducing the Xplay is to reduce/eliminate the need for Touchscreen controls!
I just stopped buying Gameloft games. The last two I bought I play for about 3 minutes, thankfully they were on for 99c.
I'm just patiently waiting for gta 3
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Sir OP, there are things that I want added.
First, for Backstab. Lots of FCs, severe clipping, and resetting to Level 2 (while riding a boat with a girl, not sure if it was level 2) during force closes when in fact I have already progressed further and nearing the end.
Second, for Rainbow Six, player keeps commanding, "Go into position" without me telling them to, obliterating stealth approach. The green commands on the walls get highlighted by themselves without me issuing the order, thus, sending teammates to a position I do not want.
Another is teammates shooting on sight when the mission in fact is a covert operation, obliterating the entire mission and having to restart again.
General suggestion on their FPS games, why not copy Bad Company 2's key-mapping? Since we use the left-touchpad to move, why not use the D-pad for things LIKE Left for Previous Weapon, Right for Next Weapon, Down for Crouch. (God we still use touchscreen to crouch in MC2!) Besides, SE's idea in introducing the Xplay is to reduce/eliminate the need for Touchscreen controls!
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Now this is the kinda post im looking for! I'll make sure to add all that as soon as I'm back on my desktop.
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General suggestion on their FPS games, why not copy Bad Company 2's key-mapping? Since we use the left-touchpad to move, why not use the D-pad for things LIKE Left for Previous Weapon, Right for Next Weapon, Down for Crouch. (God we still use touchscreen to crouch in MC2!) Besides, SE's idea in introducing the Xplay is to reduce/eliminate the need for Touchscreen controls!
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Actually if you hold down the Circle button and press down or up that allows you to crouch/stand up. I'm not sure how I figured that out or if it was in the instructions somewhere.
lmao... I see narflynn didn't waste any time going over there to give Nik 'the business'.
I XD'ed pretty damn hard.
EDIT: If anyone cares, I re-formatted that topic to have a "ACTIVE ISSUE/RESOLVED" format, also
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First, for Backstab. Lots of FCs, severe clipping, and resetting to Level 2 (while riding a boat with a girl, not sure if it was level 2) during force closes when in fact I have already progressed further and nearing the end.
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I'm having trouble understanding exactly what you meant by that.
"Receiving infractions is very hard, but I admit I can be a **** when someone is dicking dropping stupid **** on me. An eye for an eye amigo!"
Anyway, what I meant with that is that, for example, I am already on advanced levels like for example the zombie village, the game will just crash and when I start it back up again, I start again from the level where Blake still has his long hair and beard. I mean, the mission with the cutscene in which he was on a boat with a girl then suddenly a bigger ship collides with them. That's it!
Over the last 4 months that Nik has been saying the same thing on every single complaint post on their forums. He deserved it.
Logseman said:
I took advantage of the promotion of three free games by Gameloft. I would say that with three games one can have a good idea where the quality level lies.
As a result: Let's Golf 2 was offensively poor, with a retarded AI and unpolished interface. I'm yet to play Backstab because it has no sound, no matter the ROM I use or the many download links I've been provided. Sacred Odyssey is just ok.
With that experience, I am certain that
1) One can only expect crud from GL.
2) I won't finance crud if I can avoid it: my taxes do that already.
And of course, all of this is not taking into account the Xerox processes that we all know and love.
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Let's golf sucks, thats true. But really, dungeon hunter 2 is a awesome game, and so are NOVA2 and BackStab
And for the record, Backstab has sound.. I can assure you that and if you want to i can make a video to prove it. Did you maybe buy the market version? or the "ask google for the .apk" version, because the one i bought in the gameloft wapstore is working just fine and i bought it the day it came available so probably the oldest version there is, besides the bugs OP wrote in his thread everything works. Only a little bit low fps sometimes, probably has something to do with my background processes. Because it happens now and then.
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And for the record, Backstab has sound.. I can assure you that and if you want to i can make a video to prove it. Did you maybe buy the market version? or the "ask google for the .apk" version
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Reading what you're replying to will go a long way for mutual understanding!
I took advantage of the promotion of three free games by Gameloft.
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Backstab has never had sound in my case. I've been sent multiple APK's and I've downloaded it 10 or 12 times from Gameloft's site... to no avail. if it does have sound in yours, more power to you. How's the plot?
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Reading what you're replying to will go a long way for mutual understanding!
Backstab has never had sound in my case. I've been sent multiple APK's and I've downloaded it 10 or 12 times from Gameloft's site... to no avail. if it does have sound in yours, more power to you. How's the plot?
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Yeah i don't get sound either, you think it could be an app interference or it could be our version/rom/phone
I get sound with backstab
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How about for Eternal Legacy how it crashes during battle sequences (its back for me again) but of course I'm so deep into the game that if I re-install to start over I don't even want to bother.

Really Gameloft? How did you make SC:Conviction WORSE?!

Some developers have pulled off some pretty awesome **** with Xperia PLAY's touch-pads.
Gameloft, on the other hand, has been spotty - yet playable.
Splinter Cell Conviction, however, has been the only one I can say was absolutely unplayable. You'd think they would naturally figure something out that's functional since other devs have laid out the groundwork to perfect control schemes, but I ran into an update today that somehow rose the bar on horrible touch-pad usage (which is amazing because Conviction already held the title as the worst).
Now there's no analog movement whatsoever... the entire touchpad workspace is now just simulating the touch-screen, and movement is tied to the d-pad... and with that, all the auxiliary functions that should be on the d-pad are spread out in completely unnatural-feeling places.
I could understand if Gameloft hadn't already churned out some workable touch-pad control schemes, but it's like they un-learned all their accomplishments from MC3, N.O.V.A. 2 and Shadow Vanguard.
Stay classy, Gameloft -_-.
When did you buy Splinter Cell? I would never buy an old gameloft, they are just bad. Espaccially the one wichwhere availeble before the Xperia Play came out.
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When did you buy Splinter Cell? I would never buy an old gameloft, they are just bad. Espaccially the one wichwhere availeble before the Xperia Play came out.
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I got it around when the $0.99 sale was going on. Pretty much stocked up on any Xperia PLAY Optimized GL game I didn't have.
I bought SC: Conviction a long while ago during one of the 99 cent sales and finally got around to it yesterday after beating Rainbow Six. Right when I started it it asked for an update. Holy crap you are correct, the game is straight out unplayable. The right touchpad doesn't work half the time and when it does it randomly fires your gun or "activates" something. You need to reach your thumb over to the left touchpad just to be able to look around, but as for targeting people and getting headshots? Nearly impossible. I think I may just dump it and not bother finishing, its just plain frustrating to play.
The sad part is the production values on it are amazing, the graphics and all. But the controls are beyond horrendous.
Then the strangest part, Rainbow Six was unbelievable. Console game quality production values, amazing graphics, good voice acting, and the controls were dead on perfect better than any other FPS I've played on this phone. How were both of these games developed by the same people (or did Ubisoft make them and Gameloft distributes under license)?
Y'see, this is why I own an Xbox. I played the Gameloft Conviction on my iPod touch about a year ago and hated it. <3 Xbox Conviciton <3
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Y'see, this is why I own an Xbox. I played the Gameloft Conviction on my iPod touch about a year ago and hated it. <3 Xbox Conviciton <3
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Yeah.. I have a PS3.... plus this game was only a buck, if I had paid $5.99 for it I would be really angry.
Even though you're only paying a dollar for a game I understand your expectations can't be super high, but you expect a game to at least be playable. This one absolutely is not. Its just strange because Rainbow Six is the complete opposite and one of the best games on the phone ever, IMO.
I sent a nasty email to GL just a moment ago regarding Sacred Odyssey force closing and the crappy SC Conviction. I have 3 different GL email addresses and I sent an email to each one. It seems so far this year I have been having nothing but unresolved issues with GL, either its games or there online multiplayer issues. And I stated that in my email. I was unaware of Sacred Odyssey not working on 2.3.3 at all and bought the game only find I cannot play it. I swear I am so close to just telling GL to kiss my a$$ and just get my games from them elsewhere, I mean if they cannot uphold their end of the agreement to supporting a game why should we have to pay. We are expecting to at least have a functional working game(s) and most dont work and have serious issues, some worse then others, so basically we are just throwing $$$$ into GL face for a non working game(s). This in my opinion is stealing from their customers. They take your money, you think you are getting a functioning game and BAM! Screwed. Well screw you GL. I utterly despise you and your complete lack of support, I know why GL doesnt use the android market, because if they did Google would hound their asses to fix their games and by having to use their wapshop they have you by the balls. I know people will reply to this message and say "just dont buy their games" I wont enymore. I am sick and tired of their bullsh!t and their lies. I hope that somewhere GL employees and their bosses see this post and realize they are becoming a complete disaster and a joke. They make pretty games, but you donrt buy a game just to look at it. So I say lets stop buying there games, and I was going to make a thread on their forums but forget it, there has been a thread there for months where people list their issues with Xperia PLAY games and its just being ignored by GL. The only person replying to anyones posts is Nik, and that persons reply is "I have forwarded your message to your support department".... more like trash bin. GL are a bunch of a$$holes. Sorry for the rant, I didnt mean to type this long of a message, I am just so extremely tired and angry with them. And no I dont want cheese with my whine.......
http://forum.gameloft.com/index.php/topic,40871.0.html
I am really happy with gamelofts replies to me. I emailed them last thursday regarding the 9mm game i bought from the market, i wanted the wapshop version as it took up next to no space whereas the market version uses up like 13mb
They responded within 2-3 days with their wapshop .apk, i was chuffed
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Jordanooo said:
I am really happy with gamelofts replies to me. I emailed them last thursday regarding the 9mm game i bought from the market, i wanted the wapshop version as it took up next to no space whereas the market version uses up like 13mb
They responded within 2-3 days with their wapshop .apk, i was chuffed
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Gameloft's really good at giving you what they already have. And they're actually very prompt about responding considering how most big companies make you fight through 15 minutes of automated hell just to get horrible customer service.
...the problem is that they don't do too well at fixing what's wrong. Eternal Legacy, for example has an issue with the touchpad that makes you go flying in diagonal directions if you use the touch-pad at all... this means that the game was able to be released without ANYONE noticing that the analog won't even let you walk straight... I mean damn, that's a pretty critical issue.
I do appreciate that they gave me Starfront: Collision for free, but I kinda wanted Eternal Legacy to be fixed... this happened over half a year ago without them fixing it BTW.
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Gameloft's really good at giving you what they already have. And they're actually very prompt about responding considering how most big companies make you fight through 15 minutes of automated hell just to get horrible customer service.
...the problem is that they don't do too well at fixing what's wrong. Eternal Legacy, for example has an issue with the touchpad that makes you go flying in diagonal directions if you use the touch-pad at all... this means that the game was able to be released without ANYONE noticing that the analog won't even let you walk straight... I mean damn, that's a pretty critical issue.
I do appreciate that they gave me Starfront: Collision for free, but I kinda wanted Eternal Legacy to be fixed... this happened over half a year ago without them fixing it BTW.
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This is exactly right about them. They are always very friendly and more than happy to give you a free game for your trouble, I got 9mm for free for complaining about Shadow Guardian and how theres a bug that basically makes it impossible to complete the game. Its something that seems really simple to fix too (works fine on the iOS version).
That said, I like Shadow Guardian better, I want to finish it. I and MANY others informed them of this bug months ago, and yet they haven't done anything to fix it, and I'm sure they are still selling the game, broken.
Yet they had time to release a patch to make Splinter Cell worse.....
How do you guys play shadow guardian? I found it really hard to even hit that guy with the Shield as I roll away and then can't aim on him in time. Help?
Also, I bought SC: conviction despite the comments here and it is pretty bad. Sam starts shooting randomly whilst I'm just moving, is this the standard?
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How do you guys play shadow guardian? I found it really hard to even hit that guy with the Shield as I roll away and then can't aim on him in time. Help?
Also, I bought SC: conviction despite the comments here and it is pretty bad. Sam starts shooting randomly whilst I'm just moving, is this the standard?
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I dont, due to the issues. Hence the reason for my rant a few posts back.
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How do you guys play shadow guardian? I found it really hard to even hit that guy with the Shield as I roll away and then can't aim on him in time. Help?
Also, I bought SC: conviction despite the comments here and it is pretty bad. Sam starts shooting randomly whilst I'm just moving, is this the standard?
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The guys with the shield you have to aim for their legs, which is tough, or you gotta just keep moving and get on the side of them. Or use a powerful weapon like a grenade launcher.
As for SC, its because they changed the mapping, it seems that they mapped the whole touch screen to the touchpads. So the right touchpad does that when you look around sometimes. if you use the left one it won't but its way uncomfortable to use that way.
I'll write a complaint then...
are you SUPPOSED to get round the Shields guys in shadow guardian? Because I find that immensely hard if that's the case...
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I'll write a complaint then...
are you SUPPOSED to get round the Shields guys in shadow guardian? Because I find that immensely hard if that's the case...
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They are VERY hard. If they get close to you you're prettymuch screwed.
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Rogue Leader said:
This is exactly right about them. They are always very friendly and more than happy to give you a free game for your trouble, I got 9mm for free for complaining about Shadow Guardian and how theres a bug that basically makes it impossible to complete the game. Its something that seems really simple to fix too (works fine on the iOS version).
That said, I like Shadow Guardian better, I want to finish it. I and MANY others informed them of this bug months ago, and yet they haven't done anything to fix it, and I'm sure they are still selling the game, broken.
Yet they had time to release a patch to make Splinter Cell worse.....
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What is the bug in shadow guardian?
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What is the bug in shadow guardian?
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Real late in the game you are jumping from these bars that are between two walls that are closing in on eachother. You need to get to the last part within the time limit or you get crushed. The problem is that its actually impossible to do, you get crushed before the walls are even close enough to crush you. Someone posted a video online of the iOS version and I did it at speed vs the video exactly and it was impossible to pass.
I posted about it here and someone else had the same problem, and then I emailed Gameloft and they agreed it was a known bug and they haven't fixed it yet.
So I can't finish the game at all?
Well... That's an abomination
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So I can't finish the game at all?
Well... That's an abomination
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Correct, and Gameloft has known about it for at least 3 months if not more. But hey they will give you a free game if you complain.

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