Hey guys,
I have been through a plethora of custom ROMs on my galaxy s captivate - ranging from CM7 to MIUI and what not.
Some major features of those roms are:
-removed carrier bloatware
-improved speed
-custom user interfaces (such as CM7 and MIUI)
However, given the fact that the transformer does not include carrier crapware, does not suffer from performance issues, do you guys deem it worth it to install a custom firmware?
On a phone, once rooted you can easily flash between firmwares and such; however on this table you do need to go through the trouble of un-rooting for a simple software update.
Can you guys convince me that it is actually worth my time to install a custom firmware?
P.S. as the transformer pad stock firmware is already very snappy, do you notice performance improvements?
thanks a lot
Looking at the prime 1.8.2 page, there doesn't seem to be any jaw-dropping features. That is very unlike some phone custom roms;
where the moment you see the thread, you might twitch on the ground foaming at the mouth untill you get it running on your phone.
mediumsteak said:
On a phone, once rooted you can easily flash between firmwares and such; however on this table you do need to go through the trouble of un-rooting for a simple software update.
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Its no different on a tablet. I have never unroot to update firmware. My tablet was 3.0 when I bought it, its now ruining 3.2
You simply wait for the rooted/custom rom to implement the update than you flash. On the phone when you run custom rom you don't get ota update, you flash an updated version of the rom you are running its like that also on the tablet.
As far as different in rom between phone and tablet.
-phone custom rom usually get features and functions ported from other devices or they get lots of stuffs that's not native to the phone.
Take Cyanogen for ex, rich in features and functions. S truer custom rom.
-most tablet custom rom doesn't get much ported over but some does get things stock rom don't have. Example is rooted/custom rom like Prime, we've been enjoying netflix for a while now but stock rom just now getting it.
Tablet rom are mostly tweaked stock rom
I do wish there was cyanogen for the tf
Actually, CM7 doesn't have any ported UI, it uses ADW Launcher from the market.
Also, we may get touchwiz UX port very soon, there is a thread in the developers' subforum
I just rooted mine a couple days ago, then installed Prime for the NetFlix. Then the update comes out! Come on!! Not that I'm unhappy with the overclocking ability now... but COME ON! (in the voice of Gob).
There's not really a need to install a custom ROM since they're just slightly modded versions of the stock firmware. They usually just provide little fixes and updated firmware, which you'd get eventually anyway.
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Hey guys,
I have been through a plethora of custom ROMs on my galaxy s captivate - ranging from CM7 to MIUI and what not.
Some major features of those roms are:
-removed carrier bloatware
-improved speed
-custom user interfaces (such as CM7 and MIUI)
However, given the fact that the transformer does not include carrier crapware, does not suffer from performance issues, do you guys deem it worth it to install a custom firmware?
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Part of the reason you aren't seeing really tweaked out ROMs on tablet is the fact that Google has not, and will not release the source code for Honeycomb. Once ice cream sandwich comes out and Asus releases the source watch the ROM love'n come flooding out of the gates. But until then meh. I'm on the fence on rooting mine since I desperately want Netflix on my transformer, but meh. Rather not brick it right now just to get another rebaked existing ROM.
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What is the difference between the 2 ROMS?
When I do a search all I see are comments like "I'm using X and it's great!"
If there's a list of ROMS with notes about what makes one so great over the other that would be appreciative.
I would like to know this as well.
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What is the difference between the 2 ROMS?
When I do a search all I see are comments like "I'm using X and it's great!"
If there's a list of ROMS with notes about what makes one so great over the other that would be appreciative.
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I think an even better question is "What is the difference between STOCK, Revolver and Prime?"
Revolver 2.5's changelog contains "Improved battery life". Compared to what? Stock 3.2 (8.6.5.9)? Prior Stock 3.2? Prime? Revolver 2.1?
Similarly, PRIME 1.8.2 changelog shows "Choice of Touchpad Circles or Mouse Arrow" and "Lots of bugs fixed (Rotate, Compass, Wifi disconnects)", etc. Are these not in the STOCK 8.6.5.9 as well? (yes, they are)
Disclosure: I've run all versions and don't see much difference between any of them, but I'm currently on PRIME 1.8.4
jhanford,
Good point. That's what I do not understand about these "custom" roms. Seems like they offer the same functions/features as the stock rom so I do not know what exactly is the advantage of using them.
Install them and test them yourself, the proof of wether or not they are better can only be judged by your own user experience and not by what others proclaim.
I noticed a significant performance improvement after flashing Revolver compared to stock.
My browser also no longer randomly locks up and quits when going to sites with flash advertisements. YMMV, of course.
There's not really much difference between the three of them since the source code isn't released and not a lot can be changes. The latter two "custom" roms just have a few tweaks included that make it slightly faster and they usually include special kernel modules such as tunneling, governors, and sound improvements/fixes.
I've ran all three and the difference is minimal as of the current firmware since a lot of stuff is now fixed. Before 3.2 Prime and Clemsyn/Revolver were a lot more useful since IMO they were a lot faster than the official version of 3.1.
I am currently on latest version of Prime but very tempted to give Revoler a try. The only thing stopping is that I do not want to waste the countless hours that I put in to create the "Hubs"
I don't think you'll see significant customizations until Ice Cream Sandwich and the next generation of tablets come out. If you look at the overall history of custom ROMs on Android, they've basically fallen into two camps:
1. Taking something from a newer device that's not officially available for given older device and porting it. That can be new versions of the OS itself, or it could be vendor customizations like newer versions of Sense in the HTC world. Right now, all Honeycomb tablets are getting fast updates to the latest version. As for vendor customizations, there aren't heavy customizations to begin with. Vendors are mostly competing on hardware design right now, throwing in a few widgets and apps that may or may not be useful. But usually customization ports stay within a brand (i.e., an older HTC Sense device gets a newer HTC Sense version). That can be for both technical and legal reasons (even within vendors it might be a legal gray area, but it's generally tolerated). But we're still in the first generation of Honeycomb tablets for all vendors, so even the small customizations that vendors are doing are already on the devices in question.
2. Building a customized ROM from the OS source, aka Cyanogen. Since Honeycomb isn't open source, no dice there. ICS is supposed to return to an open source license.
I don't mean to trivialize what the authors of the custom ROMs that do exist have accomplished. I haven't even tried them yet. There even may be significant improvements they have been able to do within the limits of what they have. But overall, it's going to be nothing like what exists on the phone side, where vendors are improving their custom skins from one generation to the next, there are 3+ major generations to work with, and the source is available. Tablets will get there in a generation or two.
Also remembr that the custom roms are deodexed. The hulu flash mod only plays well with the deodexed roms. But really there isnt much differences bc there is no source so that limits the dev capabilities for now
Sent from my Samsung Epic
ajamils said:
I am currently on latest version of Prime but very tempted to give Revoler a try. The only thing stopping is that I do not want to waste the countless hours that I put in to create the "Hubs"
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What hubs do you speak of?
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What hubs do you speak of?
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Check the thread here.
Back to topic: I took the plunge and installed latest Revolver. So far, I have not found any difference between Revolver and Prime or maybe I just haven't tested it enough yet.
Have you noticed any difference in battery life between the two?
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Have you noticed any difference in battery life between the two?
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Not really. Then again, I haven't used it much since I flashed revolver.
Hello everyone,
First let me say that I am a noob at this so please be patient with my inquiry. I have applied custom rom on a Coby Kryos 7042, but those are for my kids... And I'm not overly impressed with what that got me, but like I said, those tabs are for my kids.
The purpose of this topic is find out what ROM I should flash to my stock TF300t.
There are numerous ROMs on this board and I cant determine which one to apply.
I'm not a serious gamer, so selecting a ROM because it makes games run faster/smoother is of no use for me.
This is what I would like to see from a custom rom...
Make my overall experience better with the TF300t. I'm not complaining about the TF300t, so far I love it. Can it be better? Probably.
Can a custom ROM make the transistions from page/screen to page/screen faster? If so, which ROM?
Can a custom ROM increase my WIFI range of the TF300, if the TF300 wifi range is not fully utilized? I hope that made sense.
Which ROM on this board is close to error/bug free?
If I apply a custom ROM will I be able to use JB when ASUS releases it?
I'm not asking who is the 'best' at creating a custom ROM, for that is subjective. I just want some help picking out a good one for me.
I've already rooted my 300 and I've downloaded the unlock boot tool from ASUS, but I havent unlocked the tab yet.
TIA,
B
bflatmajor said:
Hello everyone,
First let me say that I am a noob at this so please be patient with my inquiry. I have applied custom rom on a Coby Kryos 7042, but those are for my kids... And I'm not overly impressed with what that got me, but like I said, those tabs are for my kids.
The purpose of this topic is find out what ROM I should flash to my stock TF300t.
There are numerous ROMs on this board and I cant determine which one to apply.
I'm not a serious gamer, so selecting a ROM because it makes games run faster/smoother is of no use for me.
This is what I would like to see from a custom rom...
Make my overall experience better with the TF300t. I'm not complaining about the TF300t, so far I love it. Can it be better? Probably.
Can a custom ROM make the transistions from page/screen to page/screen faster? If so, which ROM?
Can a custom ROM increase my WIFI range of the TF300, if the TF300 wifi range is not fully utilized? I hope that made sense.
Which ROM on this board is close to error/bug free?
If I apply a custom ROM will I be able to use JB when ASUS releases it?
I'm not asking who is the 'best' at creating a custom ROM, for that is subjective. I just want some help picking out a good one for me.
I've already rooted my 300 and I've downloaded the unlock boot tool from ASUS, but I havent unlocked the tab yet.
TIA,
B
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Dont unlock it
You can get JB officially within a month... Would be semi pointless to put a custom rom on so close to Jelly Bean being released for the TF300T
If you've only just bought the tab, I would recommend not unlocking it yet - make sure there are no defects before you unlock as this will void your warranty. Once you're happy with it, go for it
I plan to wait for the official release of Jelly Bean before I unlock. If I dont like the offcial release I will unlock and try a custom ROM.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using xda premium
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I plan to wait for the official release of Jelly Bean before I unlock. If I dont like the offcial release I will unlock and try a custom ROM.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using xda premium
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doing the same :laugh:
Like some of the other posters I would not unlock so soon especially if you are satisfied with the performance. I waited until after my 30 period return window before I unlocked. However, I can only speak for one from since it is the only from that I have tried on this device. Seanz hydro ponic rom is fantastic and I am completely satisfied with it. I have run cm9 and aokp on other devices and if you like customization these are pretty good.
toxicdust said:
Dont unlock it
You can get JB officially within a month... Would be semi pointless to put a custom rom on so close to Jelly Bean being released for the TF300T
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Link?
bflatmajor said:
Hello everyone,
First let me say that I am a noob at this so please be patient with my inquiry. I have applied custom rom on a Coby Kryos 7042, but those are for my kids... And I'm not overly impressed with what that got me, but like I said, those tabs are for my kids.
The purpose of this topic is find out what ROM I should flash to my stock TF300t.
There are numerous ROMs on this board and I cant determine which one to apply.
I'm not a serious gamer, so selecting a ROM because it makes games run faster/smoother is of no use for me.
This is what I would like to see from a custom rom...
Make my overall experience better with the TF300t. I'm not complaining about the TF300t, so far I love it. Can it be better? Probably.
Can a custom ROM make the transistions from page/screen to page/screen faster? If so, which ROM?
Can a custom ROM increase my WIFI range of the TF300, if the TF300 wifi range is not fully utilized? I hope that made sense.
Which ROM on this board is close to error/bug free?
If I apply a custom ROM will I be able to use JB when ASUS releases it?
I'm not asking who is the 'best' at creating a custom ROM, for that is subjective. I just want some help picking out a good one for me.
I've already rooted my 300 and I've downloaded the unlock boot tool from ASUS, but I havent unlocked the tab yet.
TIA,
B
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since no one actually answered your questions....here we go.
make the experience better? usually custom ROMs get rid of all the bloat and un-necessary stuff inside the OS. this usually speeds it up a bit...it may be noticable it may not. they also usually throw in some tweaks and customization. i am going to take AOKP for instance....since i am very familiar with that.
it allows for overclocking and undervolting, custom toggles in the notification area, custom shortcuts from the lock screen, adding buttons to the bottom navigation bar and changing their colors and icons and the later ones have a theme engine built in so changing the entire look of the tab is as easy as downloading an app and hitting a button.
make the home screen transitions faster.....usually custom ROMs ditch the stock launcher in favor of a custom one (nova, apex, or trebuchet) all of these have a setting in which you can tweak the transition speed as well as pretty much anything else you want to change. nova launcher and apex launcher (my personal fav) are downloadable and install-able from the play store.
increase wifi range? this one i am not sure of...i haven't really looked into it since i am pretty happy with my range, but i would guess that they don't increase wifi range.
bug free? anything based off stock will be good...however, these are custom ROMs with not much testing...there will be bugs...some you my notice, others you may not....its just the name of the game. i usually dont notice any myself until others point them out. it still doesn't bother me...AOKPs customizations and tweaks outweigh the small bugs here an there....IMO.
use official JB OTA...yes i believe you can download and flash an official OTA that you can get from asus' site...someone correct me if i am wrong.
so there you go. you can make your decision from that...but like others have said, it may be a good idea to hold off unlocking for a bit. if you absolutely cannot live without some of the customizations of say...AOKP, go ahead and flash away....but if slapping on a custom launcher and speeding up that screen transition is enough, just do that and hold off until official JB is pushed to us....that is my plan....at least for the time being (CM10 is making it hard to pass up though )
For the sake of answering the question I will go against previous posts and suggest that you unlock and flash a rom. Make a backup of your stock rom before flashing and then you can always revert back and manually update to JB when it arrives...or wait a few days after it's released for a JB based rom. Until that time I suggest flashing Asus-Hydro. It has all the stock features, is bug free as far as I can tell, and adds noticeable speed to the tf300. Not sure if it improves wifi distance, but it definitely speeds up homescreen transitions and greatly improves browser performance.
Make backups, follow instructions, and enjoy.
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If you took the time to read any of the other threads relating to JB you would have maybe come across a section on XDA that referred to "Tablets that will get JB 4.1"
In that thread there was a link that pointed to a reliable tech review site that got a official answer from Asus stating "Asus has build a reputation of being 1st and we don't want to disappoint our users"
That being said JB 4.1 is officially launched mid-July that is currently ... wow ... Now!
Asus will be quick on the official release to update their Tablets as they clearly stated by "We have a Reputation of being 1st"
So there is nothing officially stated if that's what you were looking for but within a month is my best estimate taking into consideration their track record for updates.
Hello, noob reporting in.
I am holding my T-Mobile prism, an orphaned phone. I've been browsing the market, and there sure are a lot of apps which require icecream sandwhich. My phone does not have the update, and is seemingly locked to gingerbread.
I'm wondering if anyone has ever modified a bootloader to load a non-native version of android onto their device.
Basically, I want icecream sandwhich on my phone that didn't get the update.
(This is my first thread, please don't deem me unworthy of your company.)
The apps don't require ics, they are updated to run on ics. GB still has so far the largest throughout compatibility, as well as better battery life and better performance than ics which mostly only offers some ui improvements. If you really really want to get ics on your phone, provided someone hasen't developed custom rom/kernel for your device you can check the cyanogenmod project.
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The apps don't require ics, they are updated to run on ics. GB still has so far the largest throughout compatibility, as well as better battery life and better performance than ics which mostly only offers some ui improvements. If you really really want to get ics on your phone, provided someone hasen't developed custom rom/kernel for your device you can check the cyanogenmod project.
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Could I, say, build cyanogen for my phone?
Dude it's a phone that can surprisingly and barely run gingerbread, don't take it too far...Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831846 thread, a few people there have that device and may be able to help you out
I am sorry if this is stupid noob question, but why we don't have many custom roms since that our device's sharing same exynos 4210 hardware, like Samsung galaxy SII?
I own SII for myself and there is every day something new in development thread, and here nothing
My P 6200 is crying for fix WiFi problem and some great custom rom :crying:
spanjeli said:
I am sorry if this is stupid noon question, but why we don't have many custom roms since that our device's sharing same exynos 4210 hardware, like Samsung galaxy SII?
I own SII for myself and there is every day something new in development thread, and here nothing
My P 6200 is crying for fix WiFi problem and some great custom rom :crying:
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I have been using Android since it was released and have collected various devices. This is just me, there is nothing better than stock rooted and tweaked rom. Just debloat the rom and you will be ok. My P6210 is amazingly fast with NO error or any single issues. I got both apple and Samsung products and my P3113 and my P6210 are my main tab. It is a must for me to go stock rooted and tweaked. Just me.
Cheers
I always asked myself the ssame question too... but it turns out we dont hhave so many devs here and this device wasn't a hit like the S series from samsung. Making custom roms isn't so hard but it needs alot of learning if ur a biggener. I tried making custom roms myself but what else do u need from a custom rom if you already have CM9, cm10, paranoid android and soon to be AOKP? But who knows we might see new stuff I mean I bought this tab before there was even a functional cm9 build and I was thinking of selling it. But it pulled through aand I must say his device is rock solid we just need to nail the wifi issue.
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ben_2g0 said:
I have been using Android since it was released and have collected various devices. This is just me, there is nothing better than stock rooted and tweaked rom. Just debloat the rom and you will be ok. My P6210 is amazingly fast with NO error or any single issues. I got both apple and Samsung products and my P3113 and my P6210 are my main tab. It is a must for me to go stock rooted and tweaked. Just me.
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I don't have any problems with speed and stability on stock 4.0.4 but wifi issue is bothering me so much I try almost everything, now I m on cm10 and problem is still here...
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I don't have any problems with speed and stability on stock 4.0.4 but wifi issue is bothering me so much I try almost everything, now I m on cm10 and problem is still here...
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I had wifi problems as well on stock ics (UK version).
It all disappeared when I flashed the US version, give it a try...
This said, cm, aokp and stuff are nice but not stable enough for my taste yet, I don't like bugs (I am not a very patient character) and for me so far there's nothing like a good home tweaked, rooted and deodexed stock ics rom.
When cm10 is completely stable then I will eagerly flash it, I check xda every day waiting for that day to come
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I had wifi problems as well on stock ics (UK version).
It all disappeared when I flashed the US version, give it a try...
This said, cm, aokp and stuff are nice but not stable enough for my taste yet, I don't like bugs (I am not a very patient character) and for me so far there's nothing like a good home tweaked, rooted and deodexed stock ics rom.
When cm10 is completely stable then I will eagerly flash it, I check xda every day waiting for that day to come
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I have actually did a lot of things with the ICS stock rooted but never have wifi issues. Anywhere I go with wifi access, I never have problems or any issues. Would it be router related? With my P3113, its fine but with my YP-G70, there was. I have to install another stock rom to solve it. Otherwise, everything works fine with me. These products are actually very nice IMHO. I'm just waiting for the JB update for my P6210 and P3113, if there will be.
Early in ANdroid the stock ROMs were often terrible and there was a lot of room to make easy improvements. Now the stock ROMs are really quite good and there is not much that can be improved on easily. IF you like a different style you have the CM based ROMs with some UI differences but not much in the way of performance improvements and you lose stability and some hardware features like IR Remote. Even with the Nexus, by the time some individual developer takes the time to customize a ROM, Google has new features out in the stock ROM so its just not worth it to build from scratch.
SO called debloating is mostly a placebo because the new devices like this tab have lots of memory and apps you don;t use aren't doing anything or taking resources.
Curious to know if you have found anything unique and useful in SII development. TO me it seems like all retreads of repackaged stock or CM based stuff with a few different apps from samsung or sony thrown in for good measure.
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Early in ANdroid the stock ROMs were often terrible and there was a lot of room to make easy improvements. Now the stock ROMs are really quite good and there is not much that can be improved on easily. IF you like a different style you have the CM based ROMs with some UI differences but not much in the way of performance improvements and you lose stability and some hardware features like IR Remote. Even with the Nexus, by the time some individual developer takes the time to customize a ROM, Google has new features out in the stock ROM so its just not worth it to build from scratch.
SO called debloating is mostly a placebo because the new devices like this tab have lots of memory and apps you don;t use aren't doing anything or taking resources.
Curious to know if you have found anything unique and useful in SII development. TO me it seems like all retreads of repackaged stock or CM based stuff with a few different apps from samsung or sony thrown in for good measure.
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Stock rom is full with unneeded application.
Custom rom bring more speed and space.
I'm currently running custom rom based on JB leak on my Samsung SII, which is full with super functions from S3 and Note 2. Above all that rom is great for daily use For me that is enough
I don't see many options here. Mostly stock roms in this forum topic. I had a ton of problems with boot loops and such and just couldn't get anything to work. OTAs still force a bootloop sequence unless I zero out: "/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/misc". I just disabled the notification for them and everything is fine now, but I was wondering if there was any point to using anything other than the stock ROM.
I kept root and just removed TMO bloatware. The 4.4.2 stock ROM seems pretty damn fast, but I have nothing to compare it too. I'm basically just trying to decide if it's even worth it to attempt another ROM install. Are there any real advantages to any of the other ROMs out there over stock? I'm looking for stability above all else, then speed. Features I don't really care about.
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I don't see many options here. Mostly stock roms in this forum topic. I had a ton of problems with boot loops and such and just couldn't get anything to work. OTAs still force a bootloop sequence unless I zero out: "/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/misc". I just disabled the notification for them and everything is fine now, but I was wondering if there was any point to using anything other than the stock ROM.
I kept root and just removed TMO bloatware. The 4.4.2 stock ROM seems pretty damn fast, but I have nothing to compare it too. I'm basically just trying to decide if it's even worth it to attempt another ROM install. Are there any real advantages to any of the other ROMs out there over stock? I'm looking for stability above all else, then speed. Features I don't really care about.
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Stock or at least stock based with dorimanx kernel is about as good as it gets for tmo...most of our developers have moved on to newer devices...and non tmo roms don't have Wi-Fi calling
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Stock or at least stock based with dorimanx kernel is about as good as it gets for tmo...most of our developers have moved on to newer devices...and non tmo roms don't have Wi-Fi calling
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yeah wifi calling is irrelevant to me, but frankly this stock ROM is amazing compared to the performance of my Relay 4G.... H/W keyboard android phones RIP.
Cheers
I have the Intl version which sports more custom roms but they are all the same more or less.... im on stock KK too even though i was a die hard software updater (had 5.1.1 on previous Nexus 4).
Have to agree with you this phone hates modding and is really feeble, it will get bricked quite easy unlike the Nexus 4 which can take a lot of abuse
Try the new cloudy rom. It's a port from LG G4 with various elements.
why dont you guys check in the G2 Android Development. most roms cover all variants there.
For me CynaogenMod's Privacy Guard feature is a must-have on any Android phone. But right now I'm finding that the official CM12 nightlies seems to screw up the modem settings for my local carrier here in Canda (Wind), so I lose access to the service. Constructive suggestions will be greatly appreciated.