[Q] quadrant problem and revolver question - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Little irked about this 10 post minimum crap so I can't post this in the forum that it applies to but whatever -
Have a rooted Asus pad running revolver 2.1.3. Since day 1 I (preroot) have not been able to get quadrant to run properly. Cpu tests are skipped and I get a service call failed messahe when I try to submit and view my score. Wifi is active and working, have tried a fix permissions, data and cache wipe and still a no go. Anyone have any suggestions or encountered this before?
Secondly I am getting a service not responding wait/fc error on startup from recovery. Cold boot doesn't produce the problem but the reboot after having been in cwm results in the hang. I try to restart and it locks up and eventually reboots itself. Any ideas on where to start with this?
Thanks.

Quadrant means nothing..really no point of trying to get it to work if it doesn't. Your recovery problem I have no idea, all I can say is try reflashing CWM and see if that works. You can probably try going back to stock and then re-root/install CWM from scratch.

Hah hah hah, i get the the service call failed message too.
After trying a few times, i said f--k this, and gave up.
Why bother wasting time on some scores that mean nothing in real life, just enjoy the tablet!

Whether or not you guys find it useful has no bearing on this discussion. I find it useful to have something to base performance tweaks on. If there is another program out there that would accomplish this, I would love to know about it because I have always used quadrant for lack of knowing about anything else. I am looking for either a fix or another program to work with, not smartass comments.
I'll try reflashing recovery and see if it clears up that issue. Thanks for the suggestion.

Smart bench 2011 is ok, gives productivity and gaming index, specialised for dual core devices.
Quadrant is more useful or tailored for snapdragon devices I have heard.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

Quadrant is a useless estimate in the performance of a device. Being able to get, for example, 1020 one time, and after a "tweak" getting 1030 means absolutely nothing. Best estimate in performance is your own opinion and real world use. If something feels snappy or more responsive, but still gives you the same quadrant score, then keep it - don't try to make the score higher.
My droid 1 used to get a low quadrant score, but it felt snappy and fast so I didn't give a crap.
Quadrant is like Windows Index Experience, it means nothing. My 6 core 3.3GHz cpu, 30GB SSD, and GTX 550 ti only gets a 5.3 on WIE, but it boots up in less than 30 seconds and runs everything I throw at it with flying colors.

rmmccann said:
Whether or not you guys find it useful has no bearing on this discussion. I find it useful to have something to base performance tweaks on. If there is another program out there that would accomplish this, I would love to know about it because I have always used quadrant for lack of knowing about anything else. I am looking for either a fix or another program to work with, not smartass comments.
I'll try reflashing recovery and see if it clears up that issue. Thanks for the suggestion.
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This is the reason for the 10 post minimum. This doesn't belong in development.

thebadfrog said:
This is the reason for the 10 post minimum. This doesn't belong in development.
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I agree with part 1, however part 2 manifested after flashing Revolver. It has not resurfaced with his latest version so I will chalk it up as a bug.
I grouped my questions together for simplicity rather than posting two new topics. Fair enough?
Leerobson- thanks for the app suggestion.

Related

Ben's SuperD 1.8--"TwEaKeD"-by KNK (whoa)

first and foremost, if I've posted in the wrong place, I ask that a MOD kindly move it for me please...and you have my sincerest apology now, if its in the right place then disregard these words. Notice I said MOD, i don't need a bunch of people posting all the known comments like "this is in the wrong place" .."somebody ban this waste of space"..."learn how to read the forum rules"..."I'm tired of people posting here"...etc, etc. All that is not necessary, when a MOD can simply come right along and move it. If you insist on being a MOD "wanna be"..or a "tattle tell" (some refer to as snitch) Then just PM the CEO of XDA that Klyentel posted in the wrong place, who cares...as long as it gets corrected
EDITDONT WORRY ABOUT YOUR SWAP PARTITIONS,COMPCACHE,3RD PARTY SWAP APPS, AND YOUR FANCY LITTLE USER CONFIG'S.....THEY WON'T WORK ON THIS ROM--AND YOU DON'T NEED EM-
I highly recommend anyone who hasn't played with the overclocking hack recently brought to everyones attention, credit and thanks to Eugene, or anyone who has tried it and didn't like it, to make their first time experience or redeem their failed experience with KnK's version of the super-d 1.8 rom, seriously, it will shut down any doubts in mind that the hack makes a difference, trust me.
(Some of you may or may have not already tried this, if so feel free to comment your experience, as it will give others a better idea what to expect, similar settings don't count, you can sit here & argue this forum a thousand pages long about how you already tried this and that...how you turned swap on and off got the same results....benchmarked this, benchmarked that....well Daproy said this and Shadowich said that....[those are just random names of high posting users by the way, I'm not pointing anyone out, by all means those are two well respected, knowledgeable senior members for those who don't know] but I will not engage into a paragraph after paragraph argument with you, nothing stands as a valid opinion until you flashed this rom, not your own tweaked version, with your own tweaked settings, THIS ROM>FOLLOWING THESE STEPS are the only valid comments that will be made redeemable to any type of response from me, period. If another random member wants to post back and forth with ya than fine, but I will continue to ignore irrelevance)
And it would be greatly appreciated if off topic, sarcastic humor, LOL buddy chat, and pointless picture posting be taken over to a PM for private conversation...as it has nothing to do with this thread
BY THE WAY THIS IS NOT MY ROM, I AM NOT A DEV. I'M A HAPPY SUPER D USER WHO STUMBLED ACROSS A PIECE OF GREATNESS AND DECIDED TO SHARE. IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS, ISSUES, CONCERNS, OR QUESTIONS...I SUGGEST YOU CONTACT THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS TWEAKED VERSION OF SUPER D, HERE IS HIS INFO-- [email protected], XDA MEMBER NAME-KNK, TWITTER-DIGITALKNK
THANK YOU
Backup what ya got, Do a clean full wipe, download this zip:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3J6RP7GN
extract it to ya pc, grab the setcpu.txt file and the setcpu apk- he forgot to put it back in the rom, so you will need this unless you have a copy of the apk on your sdcard already, place it on the root of ya sd,
transfer the KnK's custom Super D rom to your sdcard,
boot into recovery and flash,
after it fully loads, don't do anything, reboot again,
when it loads back up, go to your setcpu app and choose Custom settings
tweak your high/min the way ya want, I recommend 628/245
after setting it, reboot again,
when it loads back up, you will be completely amazed, I promise you.
Whats special about his version? Theres no swap/compcache, a few system apps are removed (so if you like the stock email, calculator, IM and all that, you'll have to port it back yourself)
Maps Nexus Multi-Touch enhancement already applied, cpu hack boot img already compiled and packaged
and probably more but IDK, maybe he tweaked the kernel or something, needless to say this is still Super D-1.8, and you all know how great that is anyway, credit due to the Dev-Ben Buchacher
but truth be told this is the fastest I've seen guys, really, It defeats the purpose of swap and compcache
just try it on ya spare time, and if ya follow the steps above I promise you wont be disappointed
I welcome all your opinions, negative, positive, flame me, blame me, hate me and be angry, I don't care....this is worth my time to post for others to try because my experience was that good, call it crazy, "placebo", imaginative, whatever....bet ya can't call me a lie flash and you'll see why.
Downloading this now can't wait to try it out
Thanks, I'll try this out too
The different fonts and colors hurt my eyes. I'll download it though...
And someone had to say something negative:
"The rom cooker app isn't even out yet and it's already happening."
That should rid the negative for a few posts
Wooo downloading now. Thank you for sharing.
i feel u on that some ppl just plain out rude lol!!! applying this now i will update as i go!!!! good look on this !!!
JAguirre1231 said:
The different fonts and colors hurt my eyes. I'll download it though...
And someone had to say something negative:
"The rom cooker app isn't even out yet and it's already happening."
That should rid the negative for a few posts
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LOL, agreed, but I'm not and will not be one of the "Rom Cooking" posters, this is someone elses.
fail...lol
please read eugenes official statement on the overclock not actually working. Any speed increase you see is fictional.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5584571&postcount=164
d33dvb said:
fail...lol
please read eugenes official statement on the overclock not actually working. Any speed increase you see is fictional.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5584571&postcount=164
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Please flash this rom, and follow these steps, then post your fiction theory along with its link again. that is my one and only reply to you. Thanks.
Whether or not the overclocking really works, this is pretty much the ROM combo I've been after for awhile
What are the required partitions and SPL?
I installed setCPU, but I'm not getting the option to increase the clockspeed beyond 528 ...
Where exactly do I copy the setcpu.txt file to get the additional clock rates?
Do I choose a different hardware platform (g1, magic, nexus, etc.) for the setCPU app?
chilln73 said:
I installed setCPU, but I'm not getting the option to increase the clockspeed beyond 528 ...
Where exactly do I copy the setcpu.txt file to get the additional clock rates?
Do I choose a different hardware platform (g1, magic, nexus, etc.) for the setCPU app?
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put the file on the root of your sd---meaning just drop it on the card, not inside a folder
you will not choose a handset- such as g1, magic,nexus,etc...
you will choose the very last option which is Custom settings
please do not forget two reboots are required!! Follow all steps carefully.
I spent some time with the ROM and I wasn't noticing a huge difference in performance... Went back to Super D.
Johnny5401 said:
What are the required partitions and SPL?
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Same as the original rom (Ben) stated...please see the main thread labeled (rom) SuperD1.8-"Fried Donut" for any change logs or special install requirements.
CaptainShanks said:
I spent some time with the ROM and I wasn't noticing a huge difference in performance... Went back to Super D.
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please do tell in detail....did you reboot after first flash? and again after setting overclock? How long did you play? Were there any decreases in performance? Such as lags, freeze ups? what did you clock? high/min?
People, dont get carried away, you cant just flash, boot up, spin clock speed up to highest your heart feels, then turn off and nandroid back to your old set-up, you have to do the steps above exactly as stated, and if you did indeed do so...i want to know more about what your experience and clock tweaks were, because one minor adjustment can make a difference.
CaptainShanks said:
I spent some time with the ROM and I wasn't noticing a huge difference in performance... Went back to Super D.
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Couldn't really tell either. I replaced Home++ with Advanced Launcher to make a better judgement, but as far as I can tell it's just the typical Super D speeds... which is of course, amazingly fast.
Tried at your rec setting of 628.
bigdbag said:
Couldn't really tell either. I replaced Home++ with Advanced Launcher to make a better judgement, but as far as I can tell it's just the typical Super D speeds... which is of course, amazingly fast.
Tried at your rec setting of 628.
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cool,
alright thanks for the input!
Here's an idea, if you're up for it...wipe and go back to the stock super D 1.8 with no cpu hack, and see if the speed feels the same....it'll be fast, cus like you said super d is fast, but I can almost guarantee it wont be the same
Umm wow ... I didn't think Klyentel would have made a post about this hahaha. In any case thanks .
I don't run it at 780 in fact My max is 580mhz since overclocking it to anything above that is a battery eater and doesn't jump much in performance.
Be sure to use profiles on setcpu that is the most useful feature on there.
I have these settings.
Charging
- 780max
- 384min
Sleep/Standby
- 245max
- 128min
Power < 90%
- 580max
- 245min
Battery Temp > 37.9
- 245max
- 245min
I have the profile set @ 780 when charging because I have the failsafe enabled which drops the cpu down if the battery is to heat up. So that's the only time I have it enabled at 780mhz.
Well I hope you enjoy the rom I didn't do much but just tweak it a bit like Klyentel said Ben did most of the work with SuperD which is an awesome rom all I did was tweak it to my liking
For those not seeing a difference you won't really at standard tasks, I have setcpu to on demand on the normal Super D 1.8 and set at 384 or 528 max you see no real difference... that is until you start multi tasking. Having 10 browsers windows open, snes emulator, last fm and documents to go the speed increase is greatly noticed as its at its heaviest usage that the cpu finally decideds to crank up due to workload.
If your gonna test then do so properly rather than a quick look and deciding nothing has changed. Gonna flash this myself later and do some proper more constructive testing and report back.

Under-volting question

Ok I'm sure I'm going to get flamed and *****ed at for making a thread on this, but I cant find a guide on this anywhere.. lol.
I'm running Bionix 2 RC1 with Trinity15. I have plenty of experience with rooting and flashing roms, modems and kernels, and also over clocking. The only thing I haven't dabbled in is under-volting.
My question is, its there a thread on this that I have missed or is there someone that can explain the basics of what I need to know to properly under-volt using pimp my cpu?
Thank you very much in advance.
Sent from my G2x running Bionix 2 with the power of Trinity.
+1 for me also
Make a backup, trial and error
chillwill11 said:
Make a backup, trial and error
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yea pretty much...
the safest process, or at least the one I would use is start with a base back, meaning stock voltages, no overclock or unvervolts... DO NOT DELETE THIS
now on your next boot up, set your overclock and take all of your voltages down 50mV. Run a stress test for 15 to 20 minutes, the longer the more accurate feedback you will get. Basically if your phone doesnt freeze or reboot you have a good undervolt. Now reboot into recovery and make a backup.
Rinse, repeat... make a new backup with your new voltages and from there I would go down in -25mV segments to be a little more accurate and basically just check for stability, if your phone is unstable then programs will freeze up or better yet your phone will just give you the old **** you and restart on its own haha
Typically I think stability at the top end speeds is best measured in the stress test and stability at the bottom speeds is best measured by the phone making it through the day without freezes or reboots... so the best way in my opinion would be to lower your voltages a bit each day until you find that breaking point where your phone becomes unstable...
cheers!
Good advice, thanks very much, I'll give it a go.
Sent from my G2x running Bionix 2 with the power of Trinity.
JHaste said:
yea pretty much...
the safest process, or at least the one I would use is start with a base back, meaning stock voltages, no overclock or unvervolts... DO NOT DELETE THIS
now on your next boot up, set your overclock and take all of your voltages down 50mV. Run a stress test for 15 to 20 minutes, the longer the more accurate feedback you will get. Basically if your phone doesnt freeze or reboot you have a good undervolt. Now reboot into recovery and make a backup.
Rinse, repeat... make a new backup with your new voltages and from there I would go down in -25mV segments to be a little more accurate and basically just check for stability, if your phone is unstable then programs will freeze up or better yet your phone will just give you the old **** you and restart on its own haha
Typically I think stability at the top end speeds is best measured in the stress test and stability at the bottom speeds is best measured by the phone making it through the day without freezes or reboots... so the best way in my opinion would be to lower your voltages a bit each day until you find that breaking point where your phone becomes unstable...
cheers!
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Agree with this mostly. However, I actually recommend focusing your UV tweaks on the lower clock speeds. Since the goal is to conserve battery power, modifying your idle speeds will give you more benefit then the higher ones. Also, by not changing a ton of different voltage levels at once, you can fine tune a bit easier. I'm not saying to completely ignore the higher clocks, but you'll probably find them to be less tolerant of UVing anyway.
As a side note, never be afraid to make a new thread in Q&A. The rule of "search before you post" applies much more to development threads then to the Q&A section. Those who browse this section generally want to help regardless of whether or not the question has already been answered 100 times before.
MWBehr said:
Agree with this mostly. However, I actually recommend focusing your UV tweaks on the lower clock speeds. Since the goal is to conserve battery power, modifying your idle speeds will give you more benefit then the higher ones. Also, by not changing a ton of different voltage levels at once, you can fine tune a bit easier. I'm not saying to completely ignore the higher clocks, but you'll probably find them to be less tolerant of UVing anyway.
As a side note, never be afraid to make a new thread in Q&A. The rule of "search before you post" applies much more to development threads then to the Q&A section. Those who browse this section generally want to help regardless of whether or not the question has already been answered 100 times before.
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totally agree! I am a nice helpful guy in the Q&A section but I will rip you a new one in the general section or dev section
on a side note... i really wish pimp my cpu would let me do custom undervolts D:
JHaste said:
totally agree! I am a nice helpful guy in the Q&A section but I will rip you a new one in the general section or dev section
on a side note... i really wish pimp my cpu would let me do custom undervolts D:
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What do you mean by custom? Like more precise than 25mv increments?

[Q] Galaxy s2 stable overclock to 1.6 ghz?

Hello,
I just installed the ressurection remix 1.5 rom, in combination with Thoravukk kernel, and i set my cpu to 1.6 ghz.
Set it at boot, and rebooted the device.
I'm really impressed about the boot speed, and overall smooth scrolling etcetera.
My question is, is there something else i need to do to keep it stable, or change other settings, like voltage, gpu, ram or anything else?
Because i'm really happy with the changes it's given me, but i don't want problems in a while.
Batterylife is not an issue, i don't expect it to last as long as it did on 1.2 ghz
Looking forward to information.
If i don't need to do anything else, i would like to know as well.
Thank you
Lost in space xD
Can any one help me with some info on where can I download the Thoravukk kernel. I've entered around 3 or 4 (including the official team blockbuster) sites and I don't see any download links
Why do you have it overclocked to 1.6? is there even a difference in performance? The phone's so powerful already lol, you could UV for better battery life, increase gpu for performance (in games) I don't think you need more Ram, I have the OG epic 4g and I have plenty lol
As far as stable, pushing your processor may create problems that you won't necessarily see at stock frequency, you get what ask for.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium
Fire n mage said:
Why do you have it overclocked to 1.6? is there even a difference in performance? The phone's so powerful already lol, you could UV for better battery life, increase gpu for performance (in games) I don't think you need more Ram, I have the OG epic 4g and I have plenty lol
As far as stable, pushing your processor may create problems that you won't necessarily see at stock frequency, you get what ask for.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium
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Exactly what I had in mind
The Note is plenty powerful even amongst the current crop of droids. And no app requires a dual-core 1.6Gghz. The stock frequencies were chosen for a reason, I'm guessing it's quality. All chips burn out in time, they have a lifespan. But you overclock your device and you burn your chip faster.
So what I'm saying is stay with the original frequencies. Port an optimized ROM and that should suffice.
Thanks for your answers, but i really notice the differenct, especially with a reboot, it normally takes 30-40 seconds, and now in less then 10 secs i'm at my home screen, and ready to go.
Also it is smoother with scrolling, and apps launch even faster.
so the diff is hugh to me.
Battery life is not an issue, i said, even if it goes to crap, i replace it for €20,- (Just about $25,-)
And the performance is nice, but my question was if i have to set other things.
And i use lulzactiv governor, it uses only what it needs, it's not always the full 1.6 ghz. Only when speed is preferred.
@Kenepo112x40 this is where i found it, i use it now, so it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574672
Edit: There's a zip in attachment, that's the one, install in cwm recovery
SGS2-1989 said:
Thanks for your answers, but i really notice the differenct, especially with a reboot, it normally takes 30-40 seconds, and now in less then 10 secs i'm at my home screen, and ready to go.
Also it is smoother with scrolling, and apps launch even faster.
so the diff is hugh to me.
Battery life is not an issue, i said, even if it goes to crap, i replace it for €20,- (Just about $25,-)
And the performance is nice, but my question was if i have to set other things.
And i use lulzactiv governor, it uses only what it needs, it's not always the full 1.6 ghz. Only when speed is preferred.
@Kenepo112x40 this is where i found it, i use it now, so it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574672
Edit: There's a zip in attachment, that's the one, install in cwm recovery
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I had to go and look for the 2.30 on another post cuz the 2.41 doesn't allows me to have data on the phone. Thanks anyway man, the problem was that they hadn't uploaded the link yet on the official site but they did yesterday.
To OP, I suggest u increase voltage at over locked 1.6 to keep it stable

Known Android Myths

Hello I usually don't post stuff like this, but whenever I see someone answer something, they are not telling the fact, but the myth. These myths are well known "solutions", but never work, since they're myths So I'm here to tell most of the myths that people are spreading... If you have any other myths that you'll like to talk about or if one of my myth is false, feel free to post about it . So without farther ado, lets get started
Task Killers: As much as this is obvious, people still uses it. So much, that it is annoying. Android handles apps and tasks well. However, there is an exception, and that is when the app constantly freezes or crashes and you need to restart it. If that's the case, there's a "Running Apps" section, where you can force close apps under system settings. So you won't need 3rd party Task Killers, EVER
Battery Calibration (Draining then fully charging): People thinks that this is good for your battery life, but it isn't. The only thing that this does is make the system read the battery percentage more accurate. Doing this once per month might help you improve read battery % better, but it isn't necessarily at all.
Wiping battery stat when the phone doesn't charge up to 100%: This myth is quite annoying. I dunno about other forums, but in Galaxy Nexus forum, quite a few people use this myth as a answer. Wiping battery stats DOES NOTHING to how system reads battery%.
Anti-Virus app: This is another myth that is obvious, but used by many people. You don't need anti-virus apps, unless you download a lot from untrusted source (4shared, because it is uploaded by people, not the company). If you know (And you SHOULD) what you're downloading, anti-virus is nothing.
Benchmark: People get so hyped about benchmark results... And I dunno why... It's just a number, I tell them. It wouldn't matter in daily usage, I tell them. But they do it anyways... Benchmarks are just numbers people. My Gnex can be as smooth and fast as GS3, but have a significant difference in benchmark tests.
Quad-core is faster than dual-core: While this isn't a myth, it isn't 100% correct either. You see, in daily usage, the phone only uses and needs a little bit of CPU power. For example, Facebook app doesn't use full 4 cores. That's just plain silly. However, when it comes to heavy gaming, yes, that 2-extra cores will help. But overall in daily usage, you're not gonna miss almost anything, because you have dual-core...
You need to clear cache and dalvik when updating/flashing a custom kernel: This is not true. I flash Franco kernel without clearing anything with NO problem.
You need to fix permission whenever you dirty flash: I don't hear that too often, but people still believes in it. Fixing permission isn't necessarily, unless you're experiencing random force close or crash.
Turn GPS off when not using: You do not need to do that at all. Phone only turns on the GPS when it needs to. For example, when you open map app, you'll see the GPS icon on the status bar, but when you exit out, you won't see it anymore. This means that the GPS radio is off. OFF. No need to waste your time turning it off and on.
Switch to 2G (Edge) when screen off to save battery: This is probably one of the biggest mistake people do to save battery. Yes, 2G does consume less battery than 3G, but constantly switching between them just burns the battery. It is just pointless if you ask me. Either stick with 3G, or stick with 2G. Constantly switching between them will be the worst choice.
Undervolt as much as you can to save battery: This is not true. Undervolting to a certain point can help you extend your battery life, but doing it too much will drain more battery instead of extending it. Also it makes the phone less stable, so make sure you know what you're doing and don't undervolt like crazy
iOS apps are more optimized than Android, and is more stable: This is part true but mainly not. Yes, dev only needs to worry about 2-3 screen size when making apps, which means that apps can be optimized for the screen size, but that doesn't mean much anyways... Also did you know that iOS apps crash more than Android? Now you know
iOS is better than Android : Lol wut?
Hope that cleared few things up. Again, if you got a myth of your own, feel free to post it in the thread!
kyokeun1234 said:
Hello I usually don't post stuff like this, but whenever I see someone answer something, they are not telling the fact, but the myth. These myths are well known "solutions", but never work, since they're myths So I'm here to tell most of the myths that people are spreading... If you have any other myths that you'll like to talk about or if one of my myth is false, feel free to post about it . So without farther ado, lets get started
Task Killers: As much as this is obvious, people still uses it. So much, that it is annoying. Android handles apps and tasks well. However, there is an exception, and that is when the app constantly freezes or crashes and you need to restart it. If that's the case, there's a "Running Apps" section, where you can force close apps under system settings. So you won't need 3rd party Task Killers, EVER
Battery Calibration (Draining then fully charging): People thinks that this is good for your battery life, but it isn't. The only thing that this does is make the system read the battery percentage more accurate. Doing this once per month might help you improve read battery % better, but it isn't necessarily at all.
Wiping battery stat when the phone doesn't charge up to 100%: This myth is quite annoying. I dunno about other forums, but in Galaxy Nexus forum, quite a few people use this myth as a answer. Wiping battery stats DOES NOTHING to how system reads battery%.
Anti-Virus app: This is another myth that is obvious, but used by many people. You don't need anti-virus apps, unless you download a lot from untrusted source (4shared, because it is uploaded by people, not the company). If you know (And you SHOULD) what you're downloading, anti-virus is nothing.
Benchmark: People get so hyped about benchmark results... And I dunno why... It's just a number, I tell them. It wouldn't matter in daily usage, I tell them. But they do it anyways... Benchmarks are just numbers people. My Gnex can be as smooth and fast as GS3, but have a significant difference in benchmark tests.
Quad-core is faster than duel-core: While this isn't a myth, it isn't 100% correct either. You see, in daily usage, the phone only uses and needs a little bit of CPU power. For example, Facebook app doesn't use full 4 cores. That's just plane silly. However, when it comes to heavy gaming, yes, that 2-extra cores will help. But overall in daily usage, you're not gonna miss almost anything, because you have duel-core...
You need to clear cache and dalvik when updating/flashing a custom kernel: This is not true. I flash Franco kernel without clearing anything with NO problem.
You need to fix permission whenever you dirty flash: I don't hear that too often, but people still believes in it. Fixing permission isn't necessarily, unless you're experiencing random force close or crash.
Hope that cleared few things up. Again, if you got a myth of your own, feel free to post it in the thread!
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Some interesting stuff
Sent from my SGH-T989 with Cyanogenmod 10 Alpha Power.
Quad core uses more battery than dual-core: this confusion comes from the intuition that "you'd need more power to run 4 of them". In fact, the results are closer to the opposite: on those rare occasions where multiple cores are used, they allow for faster processing (hence more sleep) and less intensive. Mostly, however, it just doesn't make a difference.
sent from my Galaxy Nexus "the most tweakable iPhone yet"
kyokeun1234 said:
Benchmark: People get so hyped about benchmark results... And I dunno why... It's just a number, I tell them. It wouldn't matter in daily usage, I tell them. But they do it anyways... Benchmarks are just numbers people. My Gnex can be as smooth and fast as GS3, but have a significant difference in benchmark tests.
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Stop embarrassing yourself
A lot of ppl ask me for benchmarks in my roms lol, but I tell them this all the time
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Stop embarrassing yourself
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How am I embarrassing myself?
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel, overclocked to 1.4GHz
Interesting and fun facts!!!!!
Love this, nice tread
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Love this, nice tread
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Thank you
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Interesting and fun facts!!!!! dual core lol.....
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LOL just noticed that :laugh: silly me. Editing right now. Sorry, English is my second language
Added some more stuff! Hope you guys like it!
I like it but the only one i disagree with is -
"Turn GPS off when not using"
I turn mine off when not using it for navigation because i dont want apps......yes that ive given permission to......to access my location.
Nothing to do with battery.
But good list!
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I like it but the only one i disagree with is -
"Turn GPS off when not using"
I turn mine off when not using it for navigation because i dont want apps......yes that ive given permission to......to access my location.
Nothing to do with battery.
But good list!
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GPS is a huge battery hog, I make roms, I run the tests, and my testers test, they experience a couple hours extension worth of battery life without it on
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A myth by many people. Here, it is.
iOs is better than Android XD
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A myth by many people. Here, it is.
iOs is better than Android XD
Sent from Hell!!
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HA! It's so good, I HAVE to add it to the post!
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HA! It's so good, I HAVE to add it to the post!
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You shouldn't. BEWARE, they will SUE you for taking their name in PUBLIC FORUM
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You shouldn't. BEWARE, they will SUE you for taking their name in PUBLIC FORUM
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Lol. I posted just for giggles
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Lol. I posted just for giggles
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel, overclocked to 1.4GHz
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Giggles but truth xD
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We should send these in to mytbusters so they can prove/disprove the facts. I personally use appkillers because the newer ones to make a difference on my underpowered P500. While these apps to start up, they consume less memory when started in the background and allows for faster start up once killed by the task manager.Android does have impressive memory management, but nothing is infallable.
Battery stats is just silly, if you keep charging till 90% then unplug, you can make it appear that your device can run for days on one charge, so that is very misleading.
Benchmarks are worth noting when it comes to gaming performance. On my device ICS definatly scores lower than gb, yet it runs smoother day to day. Playing games is tragic simply because the drivers are an issue on this device for ICS.
You dont need to clear the dalvik cache or normal cache to flash a kernel, the kernel modules are loaded at boot. The linux core behind android was designed this way. Clearing them when you flash to a different rom eg: AOKP to CM9 its a good idea to flash the cache since this could retain incompatible files between roms.
Myths arent annoying, people clinging to them for no reason is annoying.
cornelha said:
We should send these in to mytbusters so they can prove/disprove the facts. I personally use appkillers because the newer ones to make a difference on my underpowered P500. While these apps to start up, they consume less memory when started in the background and allows for faster start up once killed by the task manager.Android does have impressive memory management, but nothing is infallable.
Battery stats is just silly, if you keep charging till 90% then unplug, you can make it appear that your device can run for days on one charge, so that is very misleading.
Benchmarks are worth noting when it comes to gaming performance. On my device ICS definatly scores lower than gb, yet it runs smoother day to day. Playing games is tragic simply because the drivers are an issue on this device for ICS.
You dont need to clear the dalvik cache or normal cache to flash a kernel, the kernel modules are loaded at boot. The linux core behind android was designed this way. Clearing them when you flash to a different rom eg: AOKP to CM9 its a good idea to flash the cache since this could retain incompatible files between roms.
Myths arent annoying, people clinging to them for no reason is annoying.
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I also had P500 and app killers did almost nothing at all... Maybe it's just me?
That's not what I've meant when I said about battery stat.. Some people's phone just doesn't simply charge all the way up to 100%. And others just tell them to clear battery stat, which does nothing...
Benchmarks ARE pointless in my opinion. I personally don't think that noting Benchmark scores are needed... Also they are not very accurate either. What I mean by that? Well, in real life (including gaming), even if you overclock, the performance isn't so huge. But in Benchmark scores, little overclock increases the score a lot.
I know myth itself isn't annoying, but people spread them. Like crazy. And that's what irks me

[Q] Some nonspecific whining about performance...

Hey all -
I have been a Transformer (and modding) fan since my TF101, and I just leapt from a TF201 to the infinity.
I'm not sure quite what I was expecting, but I surely wasn't expecting it to be slower. Responses to screen taps and swipes are very delayed, to the point where it's extremely annoying.
This is all subjective, I realize, but I was wondering if this is a widespread thing or if I should try to RMA it.
I had heard that CROMi-X was the rom to have, so I flashed 4.6.7.
I had also heard that the GPU was an ass-kicker, so I put on my favorite piece of eye-candy (that I've purchased) which is "Asphalt 7: Heat." - and it ran DOG SLOW, and wasn't particularly candy-ish.
Well, maybe that's an exaggeration, but having the 201 and 700 side-by-side (literally, driving one with each hand, and poorly at that) the 700 was choppy and would pause every so often. It took MUCH longer to load, too.
So I was unhappy.
I read about the slow internal I/O and re-flashed with a Data2SD option, formatted the microcard, the whole nine yards, and it didn't really get any better. fsync is turned OFF.
I side-graded to the older CleanROM Inheritance 3.4.7, and it actually seems SLIGHTLY better, but the UI has a tendency to be very laggy.
I'm going to try "AndroWook" next, I had that on my Prime with good success.
I've googled and found plenty, plenty plenty of people who have a problem with the TF700 and its speed, which is really disappointing because it's supposed to be the top of the line.
So.. is anyone out there really HAPPY with their TF700? Is it zippy and satisfying? What ROM are you using?
Maybe I'll try to unload it on craigslist and go back to the TF201. It has lower "Androbench" marks, but is crazy more responsive.
*shrug*
I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts...
R
Just learned about 'lagfix.'
Gonna try that.
Is 4.1.1 better performance? I realize it'd technically be a step backwards...
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Just learned about 'lagfix.'
Gonna try that.
Is 4.1.1 better performance? I realize it'd technically be a step backwards...
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I'm still using 4.1.1. I run Cromi 3.4.6 with Hund's kernel 2.2, along with most of the tweaks found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232715). I am not running data2sd and my CPU/GPU profiles are not as aggressive. Apparently some people have been getting bootloops after applying these tweaks but I've never had it.
I've tried 4.2 several times (with different versions of Cromi-X) but usually come back to 4.1.1 within a day because it seems to run better.
Having said this, I think "lags" can be quite subjective - I personally think my tf700 is zippy but perhaps you wouldn't agree.
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Hey all -
I have been a Transformer (and modding) fan since my TF101, and I just leapt from a TF201 to the infinity.
I'm not sure quite what I was expecting, but I surely wasn't expecting it to be slower. Responses to screen taps and swipes are very delayed, to the point where it's extremely annoying.
This is all subjective, I realize, but I was wondering if this is a widespread thing or if I should try to RMA it.
I had heard that CROMi-X was the rom to have, so I flashed 4.6.7.
I had also heard that the GPU was an ass-kicker, so I put on my favorite piece of eye-candy (that I've purchased) which is "Asphalt 7: Heat." - and it ran DOG SLOW, and wasn't particularly candy-ish.
Well, maybe that's an exaggeration, but having the 201 and 700 side-by-side (literally, driving one with each hand, and poorly at that) the 700 was choppy and would pause every so often. It took MUCH longer to load, too.
So I was unhappy.
I read about the slow internal I/O and re-flashed with a Data2SD option, formatted the microcard, the whole nine yards, and it didn't really get any better. fsync is turned OFF.
I side-graded to the older CleanROM Inheritance 3.4.7, and it actually seems SLIGHTLY better, but the UI has a tendency to be very laggy.
I'm going to try "AndroWook" next, I had that on my Prime with good success.
I've googled and found plenty, plenty plenty of people who have a problem with the TF700 and its speed, which is really disappointing because it's supposed to be the top of the line.
So.. is anyone out there really HAPPY with their TF700? Is it zippy and satisfying? What ROM are you using?
Maybe I'll try to unload it on craigslist and go back to the TF201. It has lower "Androbench" marks, but is crazy more responsive.
*shrug*
I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts...
R
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It is odd. With what you said, your TF700 should be very smooth unless there is a hardware problem Did you try a clean install? BTW, if you reinstall again, I would recommend that you should use Cromi X V4.6.5 instead of 4.6.7.
For some reason when I used the Advanced Wipe and wiped everything in TWRP. I still found some old files on my internal SD. However, when I used a formatted option, everything was gone and clean. Maybe you should do that. Also if you use Data2Ram, you should reformat your MicroSD as the same time with your clean install. A combination of Fsync Off, D2R, and Cromi X should work very well. My kernel is Hund's V3.0.6 with OC of 1.4G CPU, 520M GPU for Power Saving, 1.6G CPU, 600M GPU for Normal, and 1.8G CPU, 650M GPU for my Performance with UV about 35mV. My quandrant scores are 5800 for Power Saving = Game Mode, 6400 for Normal = Normal Activities, and 7000s for Performance = Browsing and streaming movies. Please report back if you decide to do a clean install, thanks and good lucks.
Here are my settings and quadrant scores using Hund 2.2:
Power Saving - GPU 650Mhz, CPU 1.45/1.4Ghz - Quadrant 5331
Balanced - GPU 700Mhz, CPU 1.65/1.6Ghz - Quadrant 6336
Performance - GPu 775Mhz, CPU 1.85/1.8 Ghz - Quadrant 7005
Personally I take the quadrant scores with a grain of salt because I've had setups where the scores were better but the tablet was not as responsive. I mostly run on Power Saving mode without any problems.
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Did you try a clean install? BTW, if you reinstall again, I would recommend that you should use Cromi X V4.6.5 instead of 4.6.7.
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Several totally clean installs at this point.
AndroWook was bust, it didn't even get past the "ASUS" logo.
I'm back to Cromi 3.4.7 with _that's kernel 3.1.10. A lot of folks are mentioning Hund 2.2, perhaps I'll try overlaying that now.
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Having said this, I think "lags" can be quite subjective - I personally think my tf700 is zippy but perhaps you wouldn't agree.
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I totally agree. I added a bunch of the PimpMyRom tweaks and rebooted. I'm letting it settle down and then going to see what's what.
I can't get the GPU overclock to take, though. I think I've mounted the FS r/w and I'm editing the GPU cap files to contain 1460 as directed, but the next time I open the file it's back to 1300. Weird.
So, my Quadrant score after all the tweaks were put in, on "Balanced," is 5266. On "Performance," it's 5139.
Erugh?
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So, my Quadrant score after all the tweaks were put in, on "Balanced," is 5266. On "Performance," it's 5139.
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Strange. I get 5200 in balanced mode without any special tweaks, and over 6000 in performance mode with fsync off.
The general user experience is acceptable, but not exceptionally smooth - lost frames in animations are common, but there are no long waiting times anywhere.
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Strange. I get 5200 in balanced mode without any special tweaks, and over 6000 in performance mode with fsync off.
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Did I mention I also have fsync off?
('Coz I do.)
Maybe it's faulty, which would make me sad because I doubt I can return it what with unlocking and flashing the crapola out of it. Hm hm.
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I can't get the GPU overclock to take, though. I think I've mounted the FS r/w and I'm editing the GPU cap files to contain 1460 as directed, but the next time I open the file it's back to 1300. Weird.
So, my Quadrant score after all the tweaks were put in, on "Balanced," is 5266. On "Performance," it's 5139.
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That is really odd. Unfortunately my knowledge of tweaking is entirely based on following other people's instructions so I don't know why the GPU changes are not taking. Are your CPU changes taking? Did you follow the instructions on init.d scripts/enabling his voltage table and governor tweaks?
Here's are my cpu.sh files. I switched the profile for powering saving mode and balanced mode because the tablet always defaults to balanced mode.
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Also, when I made the profile too aggressive (too high on CPU or GPU), the tablet got way hot and my quadrant score dropped. Since our tablets are all different on the amount of overclocking they can handle, maybe you're pushing your tablet too much. Have you tried easing down on overclocking?
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Here are my settings and quadrant scores using Hund 2.2:
Power Saving - GPU 650Mhz, CPU 1.45/1.4Ghz - Quadrant 5331
Balanced - GPU 700Mhz, CPU 1.65/1.6Ghz - Quadrant 6336
Performance - GPu 775Mhz, CPU 1.85/1.8 Ghz - Quadrant 7005
Personally I take the quadrant scores with a grain of salt because I've had setups where the scores were better but the tablet was not as responsive. I mostly run on Power Saving mode without any problems.
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LOL I totally agreed with on that. :laugh: However, I still think that it is better with some numbers as references others than words lags, smooth, choppy, slow, fast, and so on. :good: It is just my way of explanations.
This might be my final entry - after doing the PMR tweaks, and flashing Hund 2.2 (no offense, _that ) the Quadrant score in Performance mode is ... uh.. well, indeterminate because suddenly I can't attach to our wifi. Sigh. Perhaps I overtweaked.
Although, Asphalt ran VERY smoothly. I credit the GPU overclock, in combination with assigning all the 2D stuff to the GPU.
Yeah, definitely. After flashing hund 2.2, it won't acquire an IP address.
Today is surely an interesting day.
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This might be my final entry - after doing the PMR tweaks, and flashing Hund 2.2 (no offense, _that ) the Quadrant score in Performance mode is ... uh.. well, indeterminate because suddenly I can't attach to our wifi. Sigh. Perhaps I overtweaked.
Although, Asphalt ran VERY smoothly. I credit the GPU overclock, in combination with assigning all the 2D stuff to the GPU.
Yeah, definitely. After flashing hund 2.2, it won't acquire an IP address.
Today is surely an interesting day.
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You probably have problems because of PMR tweaks I remember I also had wifi issues after PMR and I think I didn't enable all the tweaks in the guide. Try PMR recovery where it restores all your previous settings-it should restore your wifi. If not, then maybe a clean install of Cromi and then doing the init.d/Hund/CPU/GPU tweaks should give you quite a bit of performance boost.
Hope by "final entry" you don't mean you're giving up!
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You probably have problems because of PMR tweaks I remember I also had wifi issues after PMR and I think I didn't enable all the tweaks in the guide. Try PMR recovery where it restores all your previous settings-it should restore your wifi. If not, then maybe a clean install of Cromi and then doing the init.d/Hund/CPU/GPU tweaks should give you quite a bit of performance boost.
Hope by "final entry" you don't mean you're giving up!
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Yeah, it seems as if the "Fast DNS" internet tweak means it has somehow thrown off DHCP.
I'm connected to the wifi AP, but I get no IP address, etc.
I guess I'll flash the recovery thing. Darn, everything but that was working great
No, I had meant to say 'final entry' insofar as I was finally happy with it - but while i was typing it, I wanted to put in the Quadrant score, and then I realize I couldn't connect to the website, and then I realized I had no IP, and here we are.
So that post sort of morphed as I was typing...
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I guess I'll flash the recovery thing. Darn, everything but that was working great
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Huh.
Wont' flash, at least not with twrp 2.4.4.0
Growf.
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Huh.
Wont' flash, at least not with twrp 2.4.4.0
Growf.
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Which is just as well, since when I rebooted I had an IP again.
Recovery image went south too, and I had to re-flash that via adb.
There is truly some weird stuff happening here.
Anyway, the quadrant score - now on "Performance" because I swapped cpu2 and cpu3, what a great idea - is...
IS.....
IS.....
5057.
Ah, the hell with it.
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Which is just as well, since when I rebooted I had an IP again.
Recovery image went south too, and I had to re-flash that via adb.
There is truly some weird stuff happening here.
Anyway, the quadrant score - now on "Performance" because I swapped cpu2 and cpu3, what a great idea - is...
IS.....
IS.....
5057.
Ah, the hell with it.
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Wow, that is just odd. Does the tablet get really hot when you run quadrant? It might be that the GPU/CPU settings are too high. Hope actual performance is still working out for you.
And as for recovery, I meant running the rescue package inside PMR that "un-pimps" the rom. Thinking back on when I installed the tweaks, I think I did everything mentioned in PMR except for Network & Internet mods. And I love the xloud mod!
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Wow, that is just odd. Does the tablet get really hot when you run quadrant? It might be that the GPU/CPU settings are too high. Hope actual performance is still working out for you.
And as for recovery, I meant running the rescue package inside PMR that "un-pimps" the rom. Thinking back on when I installed the tweaks, I think I did everything mentioned in PMR except for Network & Internet mods. And I love the xloud mod!
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It was pretty warm, yeah. I knocked the cpu back from 1900mhz to 1800mhz - which doesn't seem to matter since according to the little floating CPU monitor I have ("Cool Tool") it's never going over 1600mhz anyway.
I mean, I've got PMR trying to control stuff on one hand, the built-in "Power Saving/Balanced/performance" thing on the other, and also "Trickster Mod"
Idunno.
It does seem perkier after all this, so maybe it doesn't matter.
I wish Quadrant would let me see my score without hitting the internet though. I backed off the voltages by 0.025v per speed, and came up with 5499 this time. Although I don't know whether that's "performance" or what.
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It was pretty warm, yeah. I knocked the cpu back from 1900mhz to 1800mhz - which doesn't seem to matter since according to the little floating CPU monitor I have ("Cool Tool") it's never going over 1600mhz anyway.
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Did you use Hundsbuah's app to set whatever parameters need to be set?
Sorry for not being more specific, I have no experience with it, I just know Hundsbuah didn't only add awesome overclocking features into his kernel, but he also wrote an app to control it.
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I mean, I've got PMR trying to control stuff on one hand, the built-in "Power Saving/Balanced/performance" thing on the other, and also "Trickster Mod"
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And this is in addition to changing cpu#.ch files? I wonder if you've got too many cooks in the kitchen.
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It does seem perkier after all this, so maybe it doesn't matter.
I wish Quadrant would let me see my score without hitting the internet though. I backed off the voltages by 0.025v per speed, and came up with 5499 this time. Although I don't know whether that's "performance" or what.
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Is Asphalt still running better than before? I think the most important thing is that the applications you use are running smoothly and not upsetting you that (1) you spent $$$ on the tablet, (2) you spent a lot of time tweaking the tablet, and (3) you're not getting the performance you want.
I once spent a few hours tweaking CPU/GPU to figure out how I can maximize Quadrant score and what I came away from it is that high score doesn't matter if the tablet is getting way to hot for comfort and that low score doesn't matter if the tablet is running to my satisfaction. I almost never change my power setting and that means my score is probably around 5300, but I still like how the tablet responds.
Anyways, hope your tablet's running better than before and good luck with any additional tweaking! :victory:
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Did you use Hundsbuah's app to set whatever parameters need to be set?
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Well.. that's just madness.
No, I was not. I had these other tools and was messing with those.
Might be time to re-flash the kernel again.

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