Hi, just wondering before I purchase this phone.
If I buy an HTC Sensation from Hong Kong, given that it supports 1700 frequency (I don't know if it does though, so if someone can clear this up it would be great), will it work on Wind or Mobilicity in Canada? A friend told me that it might not work because Hong Kong's HSDPA+ is different from Canada's and it might not be compatible.
Thanks!
Yes. I am using an Asian WWE AWS phone on Wind.
hong kong's HSDPA+ actually isnt different from canada's, both AWS networks were built by huiwei, and use the same hardware/standards
Thanks guys. But can anyone verify whether the Asian HTC Sensation does support AWS?
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lianw - Yes. I am using an Asian WWE AWS phone on Wind.
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I have heard there are 2 version of HTC Sensation? one is the 4G and the other is the normal. Are the 4G available online somewhere? or have to get it in Australia??
AFAIK should be available in Canada by now (Bell/Virgin).
http://www.htc.com/ca/products/sensation4g-virgin-mobile?view=1-1&sort=0#tech-specs
http://www.htc.com/ca/products/sensation4g-bell?view=1-1&sort=0#tech-specs
What are your umts frequencies in Australia?
Europe has 900/2100:
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/sensation/specification.html
Both are the exact same phone. the 4G is what North America is calling it. Don't know if it's in Australia yet. I'm guessing you use the same bands as AT&T in the US uses (Telstra?) so if you want one that would work on the 850 band you'd have to pick up the Canadian version just released by Bell
Can somebody tell me what is the difference between HTC (Z710e) Sensation versus HTC Sensation (International Version) in terms of specs? I can't seem to justify why there is a very big difference in price. The Z710e being much cheaper.
Thanks in Advance.
I have the Z710e model and it's the generic European unbranded handset (running 1.35.401.1)
EddyOS said:
I have the Z710e model and it's the generic European unbranded handset (running 1.35.401.1)
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No Carrier Logos out of the box? Factory unlocked? No custom firmware?
100% stock - so long as you get x.xx.401.x (European) FW on it
i have Taiwanese Z710e (running 1.35.709.1)
it's stock ....
Z710e here... No problems, unbranded, S-ON.
Okay..that settles it then. I think I'm going for this Z710e.
redlinux said:
Can somebody tell me what is the difference between HTC (Z710e) Sensation versus HTC Sensation (International Version) in terms of specs? I can't seem to justify why there is a very big difference in price. The Z710e being much cheaper.
Thanks in Advance.
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Links please? Are you talking about european version and us (4g) version?
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i have Taiwanese Z710e (running 1.35.709.1)
it's stock ....
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Yes but it's from a different region. Depends where the OP is from really
If you are talking about the price difference you see in the US, that's because
- for the US version, most people selling it bought it from tmobile at a discount price with contract. In order to sell it, they have to lower the price to slightly cheaper than the full price, which is 550
- for the international version, it is not available in the US officially. People imported it from Europe or Asia, at full price. To cover cost, they sell it at above the full price of the device.
Hence the price difference. There isn't any difference between the specs of the two. The Us version has tmobile logo on it and tmobile branded software. But once people can get s-off, that would eliminate any software difference between the two. The US one is branded as a 4G device, and the international one isn't. But that's only because only carriers in the US brand HSPA+ as 4G....
just a quick question also only this time regarding the australian z710a telstra model. are they still 4g etc or are they of lesser spec.
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just a quick question also only this time regarding the australian z710a telstra model. are they still 4g etc or are they of lesser spec.
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http://www.htc.com/au/product/sensation/specification.html
According to HTC Aus website, its 3G speed is capable of 14.4 Mbps so it is a "4G" device by AT&T/T-Mobile standard...
Looking at the bands that this phone supports, it seems to have the same hardware as the Canadian Bell model. Bell also brands its as a 4G device, btw.
So, did I understand correctly that ALL Sensation versions are absolutely identical from the point of view of hardware and they all support HSDPA+, just some operators call it 4G and brand the device correspondingly while others do not?
The 4G supports different frequency bands to the normal GSM model
Network*
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
*Network bands in regions other than Europe and Asia Pacific may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location. Please check with your mobile operator.
EddyOS, thanks for your reply but now I'm even more confused
You say that:
HTC Sensation 4G is for 900/AWS/2100;
HTC Sensation Z710e is for 850/900/1800/1900, right?
Does this mean that HTC Sensation Z710e doesn't support UMTS (and, hence, HSDPA/HSDPA+) at all???
My operator works in 900/1800/2100(UMTS with HSDPA) bands. Does this mean I should choose Sensation 4G to be able to use high-speed Internet?
I have a Z710e and can connect at HSDPA
Then, the difference is that 4G just doesn't support 850/1900?
mine Z710e works on Tmobile US HSDPA. Full bar usually get 6M down 2 M up.
people say Tmobile Sensation 4G has faster data speed than Europe/Asia in US. like how much faster?
william31518 said:
mine Z710e works on Tmobile US HSDPA. Full bar usually get 6M down 2 M up.
people say Tmobile Sensation 4G has faster data speed than Europe/Asia in US. like how much faster?
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It does not! it is exactly the same!
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3875&idPhone2=3922
Sensation z710a and z710e
Hi Friend this is my first answer, the difference is simple but at the same time complex.
HTC Sensation like other phones has variants like this.
z710a:
GSM Quadband 850/900/1800/1900 MHz so you can use 2G networks with all carries but...
UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz only and if your carrier doesn't support this bands you can't use 3G or 3.5G with them.
z710e:
UMTS 900/1700/2100MHz here the same if your carrier doesn't support this frequencies you can't use 3G or 3.5G with them.
These are the main differences, and it's the same like happend with other brands like Samsung
S5360 work 3G with 900/2100
S5360L works 3G with 850/1900
S5830 work 3G with 900/2100
S5830L works 3G with 850/1900
I don't know why this differences because i thinks that it's cheap and easy to simply make phones that work 3G in pentaband 850/900/1700/1900/2100, but for any reason and i don't know why is like that for now.
I hope helps you and other people too.
Sorry - just noticed the Q & A section...
I placed an order with an Amazon UK seller and have received a branded T-Mobile Sensation 4G model - I was expecting a UK model which this is clearly not.
Should I be worried? I'd welcome any comments on:
Warranty - valid with HTC or only via the seller? 2 Years?
3G and 4G bands? Will it work as a HSDPA connected 3G phone here in Europe? Have I actually got a more capable phone with more network bands that I would have for a UK model? It appears so from this: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3922&idPhone2=3875
Any comments welcome. The price was good at £434.20 incl P&P and this is SIM free.
If you can put up with the T-Mobile branding/waiting for OS updates then keep it. Personally, I'd send it back and pay the extra for a genuine unbranded EU model
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If you can put up with the T-Mobile branding/waiting for OS updates then keep it. Personally, I'd send it back and pay the extra for a genuine unbranded EU model
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Hadn't thought about the software. I assume, as we are all, that the Sensation will soon be able to be updated with XDA Dev ROMs. If so there should be no difference then? But would the radio inside this phone currently be optimised for the US T-Mobile network? I know that lots of people seem to think radios version suitability depends upon where you are - I wonder if the radios in US 4G Sensations are different to the ones here in the UK
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Sorry - just noticed the Q & A section...
I placed an order with an Amazon UK seller and have received a branded T-Mobile Sensation 4G model - I was expecting a UK model which this is clearly not.
Should I be worried? I'd welcome any comments on:
Warranty - valid with HTC or only via the seller? 2 Years?
3G and 4G bands? Will it work as a HSDPA connected 3G phone here in Europe? Have I actually got a more capable phone with more network bands that I would have for a UK model? It appears so from this: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3922&idPhone2=3875
Any comments welcome. The price was good at £434.20 incl P&P and this is SIM free.
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It's not about Euro model 3G capable or US model 4G capable. The Europe/Asia model Z710e is capable of 4G too. It depends on your network provider if they have enabled HSPA+(4G).
T-Mobile I'm pretty sure they run mostly on the 2100MHz band (in USA they do) and they have been upgrading their network equipment to enable HSPA+(4G).
T-Mobile I'm pretty sure they run mostly on the 2100MHz band...
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Well, not exactly. TMOUS uses UMTS band IV (1700/2100). Not UMTS band I, which is what people generally mean when talking about 2100 Mhz. They are different. Most of Europe uses UMTS band I and/or UMTS band VIII (900). 4g/3g is irrelevant here since it is only a marketing term in this instance, as shadowboy23 said. They are both capable of the same speeds on the same networks.
Now, I have not seen definitive specs yet for the TMOUS version. T-Mobile says it is UMTS I and IV, but the box it comes in says I, II, and IV. No mention of band VIII. If I were you, I would return it and get the European version, since it has band VIII, which you may or may not need, depending on your area.
Just curious - what is listed on your box for band support?
Tmobile HTC sensation 4g box says..
Umts 1700,1900,2100
Correct me is I am wrong, but the UK uses 2100 up and down? Best for the op to call service provider and confirm what band they use for data service.
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guys could you please update me on the subject
i need to clarify the fact that there are two versions of sensation in north america
1) 900/1700/2100 MHz (tmobile)
2) 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (att)
because that would explain the price gap between two of them (~200$) as the first one is useless in rest of the world/europe and thus lacks export demand........
as far as i know there is no sensation for at&t at the moment. Maybe your thinking of the Bell version in Canada? Also the price should be the same except maybe the t-mobile one is the price after the 2 year contract subsidy.
not sure which one is it but it is very clear on ebay that prices on second version are higher
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just need some guru to confirm the fact that there are two versions for UMTS band 4 and 5 ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
the outcome is probably lack of 3g speed data transfers in europe with us tmobile version of the phone...
Yes, the T-mobile version is umts band 4 and the Bell wireless one is umts band 5. Gut if your using it in Europe why don't you just get the Europe version of the HTC sensation?
i am just asking to make sure...
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guys could you please update me on the subject
i need to clarify the fact that there are two versions of sensation in north america
1) 900/1700/2100 MHz (tmobile)
2) 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (att)
because that would explain the price gap between two of them (~200$) as the first one is useless in rest of the world/europe and thus lacks export demand........
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I'm confused. While I was in England, I thought I used my T-Mobile Sensation for calls (although, most were through WiFi).
Hi,
A friend ordered one from the states and got an unlocked T-Mobile Sensation 4G but a sticker on the T-mobile box said Z710e International edition.
My question is does T-Mobile sell the international version as well (maybe for roaming customers)? If not, does the 4G, support all the 3g euro bands?
Also, what product code does the 4G have? (I saw somewhere that it's G14, but since plain Sensation is Z710e and XE is Z715e, I thought it would be something along those lines).
xenios said:
Hi,
I have a euro spec Sensation Z710e.
A friend ordered one from the states and got an unlocked T-Mobile Sensation 4G but a sticker on the T-mobile box said Z710e International edition.
My question is does T-Mobile sell the international version as well (maybe for roaming customers)? If not, does the 4G, support all the 3g euro bands?
Also, what product code does the 4G have? (I saw somewhere that it's G14, but since plain Sensation is Z710e and XE is Z715e, I thought it would be something along those lines).
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I believe they all work on Voice/GPRS/EDGE (quad band)
There are two basic versions for 3G 900/AWS/2100 (Europe and T-Mobile (and others) US) and 850/...... (AT&T (and others) US). Europe is nice and simple North America is more disjointed.
3G and 4G are in all sense the same thing, more marketing and more base station investment.
The 3G frequency is the big issue. If he'd ended up with the Z710a (850Mhz) version he'd have been stuffed for 3G in Europe.
gol_n_dal said:
I believe they all work on Voice/GPRS/EDGE (quad band)
There are two basic versions for 3G 900/AWS/2100 (Europe and T-Mobile (and others) US) and 850/...... (AT&T (and others) US). Europe is nice and simple North America is more disjointed.
3G and 4G are in all sense the same thing, more marketing and more base station investment.
The 3G frequency is the big issue. If he'd ended up with the Z710a (850Mhz) version he'd have been stuffed for 3G in Europe.
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That's what I thought as well. Thanks. My own Sensation is Z710e but it's an unbranded Europe model.
On comparing both modls on GSMArena, for the 4G I could see Europe bands as well as 1700 (AWS) and it's back cover has a fourth antenna spot.
I was more buffled by the fact that it carries the exact model number as the European one (as opposed to the AT&T one which is Z710a).
I will set it up for packet data see if all is working well.
xenios said:
That's what I thought as well. Thanks. My own Sensation is Z710e but it's an unbranded Europe model.
On comparing both modls on GSMArena, for the 4G I could see Europe bands as well as 1700 (AWS) and it's back cover has a fourth antenna spot.
I was more buffled by the fact that it carries the exact model number as the European one (as opposed to the AT&T one which is Z710a).
I will set it up for packet data see if all is working well.
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Any news on using the 900mhz frequency of the Tmobile branded one??