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[Q] Difference Between HTC (Z710e) Sensation V.S. HTC Sensation (WW Version)

Can somebody tell me what is the difference between HTC (Z710e) Sensation versus HTC Sensation (International Version) in terms of specs? I can't seem to justify why there is a very big difference in price. The Z710e being much cheaper.
Thanks in Advance.

I have the Z710e model and it's the generic European unbranded handset (running 1.35.401.1)

EddyOS said:
I have the Z710e model and it's the generic European unbranded handset (running 1.35.401.1)
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No Carrier Logos out of the box? Factory unlocked? No custom firmware?

100% stock - so long as you get x.xx.401.x (European) FW on it

i have Taiwanese Z710e (running 1.35.709.1)
it's stock ....

Z710e here... No problems, unbranded, S-ON.

Okay..that settles it then. I think I'm going for this Z710e.

redlinux said:
Can somebody tell me what is the difference between HTC (Z710e) Sensation versus HTC Sensation (International Version) in terms of specs? I can't seem to justify why there is a very big difference in price. The Z710e being much cheaper.
Thanks in Advance.
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Links please? Are you talking about european version and us (4g) version?

william31518 said:
i have Taiwanese Z710e (running 1.35.709.1)
it's stock ....
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Yes but it's from a different region. Depends where the OP is from really

If you are talking about the price difference you see in the US, that's because
- for the US version, most people selling it bought it from tmobile at a discount price with contract. In order to sell it, they have to lower the price to slightly cheaper than the full price, which is 550
- for the international version, it is not available in the US officially. People imported it from Europe or Asia, at full price. To cover cost, they sell it at above the full price of the device.
Hence the price difference. There isn't any difference between the specs of the two. The Us version has tmobile logo on it and tmobile branded software. But once people can get s-off, that would eliminate any software difference between the two. The US one is branded as a 4G device, and the international one isn't. But that's only because only carriers in the US brand HSPA+ as 4G....

just a quick question also only this time regarding the australian z710a telstra model. are they still 4g etc or are they of lesser spec.

boofhead said:
just a quick question also only this time regarding the australian z710a telstra model. are they still 4g etc or are they of lesser spec.
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http://www.htc.com/au/product/sensation/specification.html
According to HTC Aus website, its 3G speed is capable of 14.4 Mbps so it is a "4G" device by AT&T/T-Mobile standard...
Looking at the bands that this phone supports, it seems to have the same hardware as the Canadian Bell model. Bell also brands its as a 4G device, btw.

So, did I understand correctly that ALL Sensation versions are absolutely identical from the point of view of hardware and they all support HSDPA+, just some operators call it 4G and brand the device correspondingly while others do not?

The 4G supports different frequency bands to the normal GSM model
Network*
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
*Network bands in regions other than Europe and Asia Pacific may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location. Please check with your mobile operator.

EddyOS, thanks for your reply but now I'm even more confused
You say that:
HTC Sensation 4G is for 900/AWS/2100;
HTC Sensation Z710e is for 850/900/1800/1900, right?
Does this mean that HTC Sensation Z710e doesn't support UMTS (and, hence, HSDPA/HSDPA+) at all???
My operator works in 900/1800/2100(UMTS with HSDPA) bands. Does this mean I should choose Sensation 4G to be able to use high-speed Internet?

I have a Z710e and can connect at HSDPA

Then, the difference is that 4G just doesn't support 850/1900?

mine Z710e works on Tmobile US HSDPA. Full bar usually get 6M down 2 M up.
people say Tmobile Sensation 4G has faster data speed than Europe/Asia in US. like how much faster?

william31518 said:
mine Z710e works on Tmobile US HSDPA. Full bar usually get 6M down 2 M up.
people say Tmobile Sensation 4G has faster data speed than Europe/Asia in US. like how much faster?
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It does not! it is exactly the same!
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3875&idPhone2=3922

Sensation z710a and z710e
Hi Friend this is my first answer, the difference is simple but at the same time complex.
HTC Sensation like other phones has variants like this.
z710a:
GSM Quadband 850/900/1800/1900 MHz so you can use 2G networks with all carries but...
UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz only and if your carrier doesn't support this bands you can't use 3G or 3.5G with them.
z710e:
UMTS 900/1700/2100MHz here the same if your carrier doesn't support this frequencies you can't use 3G or 3.5G with them.
These are the main differences, and it's the same like happend with other brands like Samsung
S5360 work 3G with 900/2100
S5360L works 3G with 850/1900
S5830 work 3G with 900/2100
S5830L works 3G with 850/1900
I don't know why this differences because i thinks that it's cheap and easy to simply make phones that work 3G in pentaband 850/900/1700/1900/2100, but for any reason and i don't know why is like that for now.
I hope helps you and other people too.

[Q] sensation hardware that is being sold in N. America

guys could you please update me on the subject
i need to clarify the fact that there are two versions of sensation in north america
1) 900/1700/2100 MHz (tmobile)
2) 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (att)
because that would explain the price gap between two of them (~200$) as the first one is useless in rest of the world/europe and thus lacks export demand........

as far as i know there is no sensation for at&t at the moment. Maybe your thinking of the Bell version in Canada? Also the price should be the same except maybe the t-mobile one is the price after the 2 year contract subsidy.

not sure which one is it but it is very clear on ebay that prices on second version are higher
....
just need some guru to confirm the fact that there are two versions for UMTS band 4 and 5 ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
the outcome is probably lack of 3g speed data transfers in europe with us tmobile version of the phone...

Yes, the T-mobile version is umts band 4 and the Bell wireless one is umts band 5. Gut if your using it in Europe why don't you just get the Europe version of the HTC sensation?

i am just asking to make sure...

-=knop=- said:
guys could you please update me on the subject
i need to clarify the fact that there are two versions of sensation in north america
1) 900/1700/2100 MHz (tmobile)
2) 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (att)
because that would explain the price gap between two of them (~200$) as the first one is useless in rest of the world/europe and thus lacks export demand........
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I'm confused. While I was in England, I thought I used my T-Mobile Sensation for calls (although, most were through WiFi).

[Q] T-Mobile Sensation 4G international version

Hi,
A friend ordered one from the states and got an unlocked T-Mobile Sensation 4G but a sticker on the T-mobile box said Z710e International edition.
My question is does T-Mobile sell the international version as well (maybe for roaming customers)? If not, does the 4G, support all the 3g euro bands?
Also, what product code does the 4G have? (I saw somewhere that it's G14, but since plain Sensation is Z710e and XE is Z715e, I thought it would be something along those lines).

xenios said:
Hi,
I have a euro spec Sensation Z710e.
A friend ordered one from the states and got an unlocked T-Mobile Sensation 4G but a sticker on the T-mobile box said Z710e International edition.
My question is does T-Mobile sell the international version as well (maybe for roaming customers)? If not, does the 4G, support all the 3g euro bands?
Also, what product code does the 4G have? (I saw somewhere that it's G14, but since plain Sensation is Z710e and XE is Z715e, I thought it would be something along those lines).
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I believe they all work on Voice/GPRS/EDGE (quad band)
There are two basic versions for 3G 900/AWS/2100 (Europe and T-Mobile (and others) US) and 850/...... (AT&T (and others) US). Europe is nice and simple North America is more disjointed.
3G and 4G are in all sense the same thing, more marketing and more base station investment.
The 3G frequency is the big issue. If he'd ended up with the Z710a (850Mhz) version he'd have been stuffed for 3G in Europe.

gol_n_dal said:
I believe they all work on Voice/GPRS/EDGE (quad band)
There are two basic versions for 3G 900/AWS/2100 (Europe and T-Mobile (and others) US) and 850/...... (AT&T (and others) US). Europe is nice and simple North America is more disjointed.
3G and 4G are in all sense the same thing, more marketing and more base station investment.
The 3G frequency is the big issue. If he'd ended up with the Z710a (850Mhz) version he'd have been stuffed for 3G in Europe.
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That's what I thought as well. Thanks. My own Sensation is Z710e but it's an unbranded Europe model.
On comparing both modls on GSMArena, for the 4G I could see Europe bands as well as 1700 (AWS) and it's back cover has a fourth antenna spot.
I was more buffled by the fact that it carries the exact model number as the European one (as opposed to the AT&T one which is Z710a).
I will set it up for packet data see if all is working well.

xenios said:
That's what I thought as well. Thanks. My own Sensation is Z710e but it's an unbranded Europe model.
On comparing both modls on GSMArena, for the 4G I could see Europe bands as well as 1700 (AWS) and it's back cover has a fourth antenna spot.
I was more buffled by the fact that it carries the exact model number as the European one (as opposed to the AT&T one which is Z710a).
I will set it up for packet data see if all is working well.
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Any news on using the 900mhz frequency of the Tmobile branded one??

[Q] Unlocked One S from Canada (bands)

Hey guys just wondering if anybody has unlocked a One S (bought from a Canadian Carrier) and tested it out on Wind or Mobilicity.
I emailed HTC asking them about the bands supported by the phones and this is the reply I got.
Fido: HSPA 42 Mbps
Bell: HSPA 42 Mbps 2100/1900/AWS GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Sasktel: HSPA 42 Mbps
Telus: HSPA 42 Mbps
Virgin: HSPA 42 Mbps
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Asked them if the other phones had the same bands
I do apologise for the misunderstanding, but the bands would be the same for the One S on each network.
That being said, I will suggest to contact Wind Mobile to verify if a unlocked phone will work to its fullest potential or not. The reason I mention this, is that some providers put a limit on the connection, on an unlocked phone.
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So I was just wondering if anybody has tested this out and knows if it works on Wind or Mobilicity by just unlocking it or if the AWS bands are "locked" just like the Galaxy Note.

Wrong. Canadian One S are not AWS.
If we would have AWS onboard we would have the T-Mobile US phone

NienorGT said:
Wrong. Canadian One S are not AWS.
If we would have AWS onboard we would have the T-Mobile US phone
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:s ugh I was hoping that we did. How sure are you that the AWS bands aren't "hidden" like on the galaxy note though?

Found the unlocked pentaband phones in Canada
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/

motionUS said:
Found the unlocked pentaband phones in Canada
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
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Are you sure Penta Band ONE S exist in Canada/USA ? read post #3
As for the official HTC site says. HSPA/WCDMA:Europe/Asia: 850/900/2100 MHz
BUT Your links would make sense according to the note Network bands in regions other than Europe and Asia Pacific may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location.

I too, am trying to find out too what bands does the Canadian version support
Fido , Bell, Virgin all listed HSPA 850 1900 2100 but Telus only listed 850 1900 , so that leads me to believe 1700 is not supported.
However at the same time, the international version isn't penta band, nor the T mobile version... Where are theretailers getting their penta band One S in black?
Maybe the device is penta band from the fatory but carriered modified ?
My Telus One S arrives next week and I will unlock it but ufortunately Wind doesn't
operate in SK so I won't be able to test it.
I tried to look at the demo phone and I couldnt find the menu option to select networks.

huy397 said:
I too, am trying to find out too what bands does the Canadian version support
Fido , Bell, Virgin all listed HSPA 850 1900 2100 but Telus only listed 850 1900 , so that leads me to believe 1700 is not supported.
However at the same time, the international version isn't penta band, nor the T mobile version... Where are theretailers getting their penta band One S in black?
Maybe the device is penta band from the fatory but carriered modified ?
My Telus One S arrives next week and I will unlock it but ufortunately Wind doesn't
operate in SK so I won't be able to test it.
I tried to look at the demo phone and I couldnt find the menu option to select networks.
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The black unlocked international One S is for sure not pentaband as far as I know and supports less bands than the blue version. I am assuming the blue versions are all the same and just branded differently. My suspicion is Fido/Bell/Virgin/Telus aren't listing the 1700 band so that people do not buy and unlock them to use with Wind/Mobilicity.
That's too bad there has to be someone out there that has attempted to try it on Wind/Mobilicity. It's such a pain how every site/company is showing different specs.

The European version will not work with AWS. Currently the only *confirmed" AWS version is the T-Mobile US version. However if S-Off is ever achieved then flashing a T-Mobile US radio could "unlock" the bands in the European version and other versions a la the Snapdragon Galaxy Note.
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vintr said:
The black unlocked international One S is for sure not pentaband as far as I know and supports less bands than the blue version. I am assuming the blue versions are all the same and just branded differently. My suspicion is Fido/Bell/Virgin/Telus aren't listing the 1700 band so that people do not buy and unlock them to use with Wind/Mobilicity.
That's too bad there has to be someone out there that has attempted to try it on Wind/Mobilicity. It's such a pain how every site/company is showing different specs.
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If you are from Toronto. Pacific Mall can sell them for ~$550 - $600 unlocked. but i dont know rather if its dual,tri or quad band.
got my sexy Sensation z710a from there

joshnichols189 said:
The European version will not work with AWS. Currently the only *confirmed" AWS version is the T-Mobile US version. However if S-Off is ever achieved then flashing a T-Mobile US radio could "unlock" the bands in the European version and other versions a la the Snapdragon Galaxy Note.
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I am aware the the European one does not have AWS. However I am not asking about the black European model. In Canada we have the blue model just like the one with T-Mobile in the States which leads me to believe that the Canadian version=the American version; I just need some confirmation.

vintr said:
I am aware the the European one does not have AWS. However I am not asking about the black European model. In Canada we have the blue model just like the one with T-Mobile in the States which leads me to believe that the Canadian version=the American version; I just need some confirmation.
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You know in Europe they have the blue one that doesn't have AWS bands right? It isn't as cut and dry as black is no AWS and blue is AWS.
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joshnichols189 said:
You know in Europe they have the blue one that doesn't have AWS bands right? It isn't as cut and dry as black is no AWS and blue is AWS.
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Sorry didn't know that, went to the HTC UK site and found all the major carriers that had the One S and they were all black. Why does it have to be so difficult for companies to get their specs straight...

Got some useful info courtesy of 'HC - NO "i"' on HowardForums
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...us-supports-2100-band?p=14822292#post14822292
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)

I went to Telus and Bell today ( the Fido and Sasktel stores didn't have working demo models ), I checked the FCC tags and both of them showed "PJ40110". on the top line.
I didn't look at the FCC ID or IC.

huy397 said:
I went to Telus and Bell today ( the Fido and Sasktel stores didn't have working demo models ), I checked the FCC tags and both of them showed "PJ40110". on the top line.
I didn't look at the FCC ID or IC.
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So it should support AWS then. Hopefully someone can confirm for me that the Canadian version will work on Wind/Mobilicity with a simple unlock without going through the same trouble as the galaxy note

vintr said:
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
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That's very interesting...
vintr said:
So it should support AWS then. Hopefully someone can confirm for me that the Canadian version will work on Wind/Mobilicity with a simple unlock without going through the same trouble as the galaxy note
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Well, if nobody confirm it before that I cut my Vidéotron SIM (Québec's AWS carrier) to a MicroSIM and unlock my phone, I'll tell ya.
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With the hack @ascot17 found, I was able to unlock my phone and it works on AWS! (well, I can't test data as this account don't have data, but without AWS it shouldn't write Vidéotron but "Partner" since they don't have a GSM network).
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NienorGT said:
With the hack @ascot17 found, I was able to unlock my phone and it works on AWS! (well, I can't test data as this account don't have data, but without AWS it shouldn't write Vidéotron but "Partner" since they don't have a GSM network).
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Awesome! Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it. Now I can safely go out and buy this with no worries

Please be aware that you will buy an unsupported phone, unlock the bootloader to root the phone, most probably voiding your warranty in the process (there's talk that the root-only (and not requiring unlocked bootloader) method for the NA One X works on the One S) then Sim-unlock the phone (by a paid code or the new hack), find the APNs for your carrier...
... And hope that all works...
I don't want to scare you but make sure you fully understand all risks. Specially if you buy the phone outright and don't have an account on that carrier...
Despite the fact that I can't test data (as it should be locked in my account) here is a shot telling that I'm on 3G UTMS (which can't be done with this SIM on a non-AWS phone like my iPhone).

I got one from Virginmobile had it unlocked it and am now using it on Mobilicity.
The Rep at the store assured me it wont work but i tried it and it did.
Reason for buying from there was because it was on sale.

[Q] Is it a Pentaband?

Hey I have looked around and have heard differing reports saying that some are and some aren't. What I want to know is is the Telus version of the phone Pentaband? My aunt got the phone and I might be getting it when she is finished and it would be helpful to know

Dark lord me said:
Hey I have looked around and have heard differing reports saying that some are and some aren't. What I want to know is is the Telus version of the phone Pentaband? My aunt got the phone and I might be getting it when she is finished and it would be helpful to know
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It's not pentaband, but the chip DOES support both 850 Mhz and 1700 Mhz (strange, I know). I believe it's actually quadband WCDMA which means it'll work on Wind/Mobilicity (I have the Telus version too and use it on Wind currently and Rogers prior). It won't work in Europe though, if you travel a lot because I believe they use 900 Mhz out there, which is the band this phone doesn't support.
I've attached proof that it does work on Wind with data, but I don't know how to prove I'm using the Telus model... Just trust me I guess?

AFAIK: Only TMOUS' One S is pentaband.

Check the first table here for frequencies supported on different versions: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/7

Thanks for getting back to me =D I had looked around and found differing reports some sites would only have the international one and some would only have the T-mobile one.
Well i guess her's is not Pentaband but I don't mine losing Eurpoean roaming it has the ones i need (AWS) :laugh:

Dark lord me said:
Thanks for getting back to me =D I had looked around and found differing reports some sites would only have the international one and some would only have the T-mobile one.
Well i guess her's is not Pentaband but I don't mine losing Eurpoean roaming it has the ones i need (AWS) :laugh:
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Yeah contrary to belief, the Canadian One S is NOT the "international" version, but rather the T-Mobile version.
If you want further clarification, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673378
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)
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PJ40110 should be written inside the SIM cover thing. It was on mine. I did a lot of digging around to find out whether or not my phone supported AWS. I really hated being with Rogers so I switched to Wind, but I wanted to make sure my dream phone would work before I switched.

I live in Ohio. Here we have T-Mobile and local Cincinnati Bell. Cincinnati Bell gets all their phones from T-Mobile. So if you can get your hands on a Cincinnati Bell One S, that is also pentaband. I have one.
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rubbamade said:
I live in Ohio. Here we have T-Mobile and local Cincinnati Bell. Cincinnati Bell gets all their phones from T-Mobile. So if you can get your hands on a Cincinnati Bell One S, that is also pentaband. I have one.
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This is misleading information as it is more correctly quadband WCDMA. Pentaband WCDMA would include 900 Mhz as well, which the T-Mobile One S does not have.

Yeah, the Telus One S is pentaband, the T-Mobile One S us quadband(it's missing 900mhz).
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Mr.Mischief said:
Yeah, the Telus One S is pentaband, the T-Mobile One S us quadband(it's missing 900mhz).
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I don't believe this is the case either. My research has yielded that the only FCC clearance this phone has is 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz.

ShensMobile said:
I don't believe this is the case either. My research has yielded that the only FCC clearance this phone has is 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz.
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Which version are you referring to? That would be correct for the T-Mobile version.
According to manbearpig(who is selling his Telus One S), his Telus version is pentaband.
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ShensMobile said:
If you want further clarification, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673378
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)
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Mr.Mischief said:
Which version are you referring to? That would be correct for the T-Mobile version.
According to manbearpig(who is selling his Telus One S), his Telus version is pentaband.
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I don't know who manbearpig is, but he is wrong. The Telus One S (and all Canadian One S') only support 850/1700/1900/2100. That's 4, not 5 bands. You can look inside your One S SIM cover right now, it says PJ40110 underneath the FCC label.
The Telus One S will NOT work on European WCDMA networks. It is pentaband GSM but not for the WCDMA radio.
If you can show me how the Canadian One S is pentaband, then I will yield. I'm not trying to be a ****, but I've done my research and these are the results and I'm trying to make it clear for anyone who reads this. I hate it when I find misleading info on the internet.

ShensMobile said:
I don't know who manbearpig is, but he is wrong. The Telus One S (and all Canadian One S') only support 850/1700/1900/2100. That's 4, not 5 bands. You can look inside your One S SIM cover right now, it says PJ40110 underneath the FCC label.
The Telus One S will NOT work on European WCDMA networks. It is pentaband GSM but not for the WCDMA radio.
If you can show me how the Canadian One S is pentaband, then I will yield. I'm not trying to be a ****, but I've done my research and these are the results and I'm trying to make it clear for anyone who reads this. I hate it when I find misleading info on the internet.
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You could be right. Here's the thread where manbearpig was selling his Telus One S and people asked him questions about whether it is truly pentaband.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771097
This is the phone he claims to have: http://www.canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
You could ask the new owner of the phone to check the box, the T-Mobile One S has the bands listed on the box.
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Mr.Mischief said:
You could be right. Here's the thread where manbearpig was selling his Telus One S and people asked him questions about whether it is truly pentaband.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771097
This is the phone he claims to have: http://www.canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
You could ask the new owner of the phone to check the box, the T-Mobile One S has the bands listed on the box.
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I'm not sure that is exactly the phone he has/had as I was going to buy it from him until he told me it is the silver/blue version. The canadagsm site only lists black as available as far as I can tell. MBP did not say that's where he got it, somebody else posted that link inferring it is the same one. Personally, I am betting it is only a physically unbranded T-mobile US version running an unbranded ROM

I'll PM the new owner later and ask him to check the box.
Edit: PM sent.
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Whatever it is...it works on WIND
Hi Peops,
Greetings from Can-eh-da!
Thanks to a few postings I saw up in here, and a sweet pre-Christmas deal going on at Wind Mobile, I decided to take a $25 non-refundable SIM card bet on the information posted on these forums, specifically that unlocked HTC One-S phones with the PJ40110 model number *may* work on WIND because it supports AWS.
Using thread #13 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673378&page=2, I found out I might have a ONe-S that works on Wind...I was right!
Hope this helps someone the way I was helped!
Tske care, eh!
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