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[obsolete] downgrade from OTA 1.32.651.6

Hello
THIS THREAD IS OBSOLETE. PLEASE CLOSE.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ROOT DIRECTLY FROM 1.32.651.6 WITHOUT DOWNGRADING.
EDIT:
This is only confirmed to work with 1.32.651.6.
Refer to toast's reply below to understand why it might not work with other versions.
STEPS IF YOU WANT TO DOWNGRADE FROM STOCK .6 to STOCK .1 (NO ROOT)
1. I installed the latest RUU 1.32.651.6 found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695604
2. And I was able to downgrade back to the original one found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
IF YOU WANT TO ROOT YOUR STOCK .6, JUST DO THE FOLLOWING:
3. Then did toast's root tutorial and got to the recovery and everything:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690762
4. And am back to the rooted 1.32.651.1 with the ability to get to recovery and flash roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693980
On step 2, the RUU was not able to reboot my device into the bootloader. So I booted into the bootloader myself (hold vol down + power on) then plug in the usb, select fastboot and then start the RUU from the PC. It installed like a champ and brought me back to 1.32.651.1.
Hope this helps everyone who decided to upgrade.

perfect!!! thanks for doing all this, testing and documenting your process. i was concerned with being limited between which versions, root process, recovery versions, etc.
this is great to know and should remove any doubts/concerns anybody has about jumping into the fray of flashing/experimenting/developing!

Yeah I had the ota RUU 1.32.651.6 installed, then found a method close to toasts method, rooted, flashes flipz stock rom, flash radio update, back to 1.32.651.1 with the radio update, still rooted!!! I even tried the froyo rom and thought it was cool, but waiting on more functionality version, so flashed back to stock rom, still rooted! Even thing works great (no 4g in my area so dont know about that.)

It's not that the current ruus won't allow u to downgrade. It's that every time u flash a newer ruu, u are gambling with root. Go look at the Eris and hero forums and u will see. I'm not gonna promote the flashing of ruus because I know what can happen. I have a eng ruu that is older and it can not be flashed because the mainversion is lower then the current mainversion. My goal is to inform everyone of the risks involve in flashing the newer ruus. The fact of not being able to downgrade isn't something I made up. U are just lucky that the newest ruus don't set the mainversion past the bootloader limit for downgrading.

Re: [howto] downgrade from OTA 1.32.651.6
I remember we were told excessives flashes can cause problems but with my htc diamond for the past year i was ruu updating weekly using different roms with their latest releases on my diamond is still going strong.. i like to say its user specific but i could be wrong
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toastcfh said:
U are just lucky that the newest ruus don't set the mainversion past the bootloader limit for downgrading.
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appreciate your feedback, knowledge and experience toast.
seems like the most accurate way to state this is flashing a newer RUU puts the EVO at risk of not being able to downgrade (or use root, wifi tether, custom ROMs, etc)
hopefully we will be able to detect when this change takes place, by md5sum on hboot.img and compare to previous versions. it didnt seem to change between .1 and .6 . hopefully it wont change in the future! once the md5sum changes, i'd say the risk of not being able to downgrade increases significantly!
although, ive only had an HTC phone with android for 3 days now, i could def be wrong in my analysis ...

I mean it could be the .1 and .6 doesn't matter. But idk
joeykrim said:
appreciate your feedback, knowledge and experience toast.
seems like the most accurate way to state this is flashing a newer RUU puts the EVO at risk of not being able to downgrade (or use root, wifi tether, custom ROMs, etc)
hopefully we will be able to detect when this change takes place, by md5sum on hboot.img and compare to previous versions. it didnt seem to change between .1 and .6 . hopefully it wont change in the future! once the md5sum changes, i'd say the risk of not being able to downgrade increases significantly!
although, ive only had an HTC phone with android for 3 days now, i could def be wrong in my analysis ...
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I flashed the .6 through running ruu .exe,I havn't root my phone yet,can I run the unrevoke.apk to root then install wifi tether pre14 ?will this work?thanks.

So, semi-floating off topic. It turns out that ultimately the unrevoked root doesn't really do much, and apparently isn't enough for custom roms... if I was going to want to flash something custom, would I need to FIRST follow this guide to downgrade, THEN perform toasts root?
tl;dr - does toasts root work on .6?

2kmy477 said:
I flashed the .6 through running ruu .exe,I havn't root my phone yet,can I run the unrevoke.apk to root then install wifi tether pre14 ?will this work?thanks.
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yes, it work for me.

tkhan02 said:
yes, it work for me.
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Thank you.Will try when I get hone from work tonite.

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FuManChuu said:
So, semi-floating off topic. It turns out that ultimately the unrevoked root doesn't really do much, and apparently isn't enough for custom roms... if I was going to want to flash something custom, would I need to FIRST follow this guide to downgrade, THEN perform toasts root?
tl;dr - does toasts root work on .6?
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Yeah - if you are on .6, just do steps 2 and 3 then flash whatever rom u want using toast's recovery
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I installed Sprint's official .6 by mistake, but was able to do steps 1 and 2 of your guide. I can see I'm in version .1 in my phone settings. However, when trying to follow toast's instructions from your step 3, I can't even do "adb push". When I do "adb devices", it doesn't see the phone. So I manually copied the PC36IMG.zip to the SD by mounting the USB and went into Fastboot. It did see the ZIP file and scanned (blue progress bar on the right). It actually looked like it scanned it twice, but, at the end, I didn't get an option to flash it. It just went back to the original 4-option fastboot menu. What am I doing wrong?

Re: [howto] downgrade from OTA 1.32.651.6
Sounds like it fails when it checks the rom. Make sure htc sync is installed on your pc then boot the phone, connect it and instead of charge only, select htc sync. Then, do the adb push stuff and try again.
And dont go to fastboot this time, just boot and wait and it should ask you whether to flash or not
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Ok so I haven't rooted yet, but installed the OTA .6 update...can I still back up and get my root abilities back?

Can I ?
I have a stock Sprint Evo no root no nothing. Ive notice horrible battery life with .6 OTA.. Can I do step 2 without being rooted? I just want the original sprint before OTA.. Sorry for the ignorant question

xavier1022 said:
I have a stock Sprint Evo no root no nothing. Ive notice horrible battery life with .6 OTA.. Can I do step 2 without being rooted? I just want the original sprint before OTA.. Sorry for the ignorant question
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Yes you can -- the 4 steps are independent of each other.

I am having issues with applying the RUUs, when I connect it via USB, do I choose USB or Charge only? Sorry.

engagedtosmile said:
I am having issues with applying the RUUs, when I connect it via USB, do I choose USB or Charge only? Sorry.
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Choose HTC Sync

Re: [howto] downgrade from OTA 1.32.651.6
I have a stock Sprint Evo no root no nothing. Ive notice horrible battery life with .6 OTA.. Can I do step 2 without being rooted? I just want the ori
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Yes you can -- the 4 steps are independent of each other.
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Thanks will give it a go.. I was a windows mobile flash aholic...still scared to jump to flashing on android..
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[ROM] Official HTC OTA 2.2 Update to Froyo for the EVO! (Not rooted yet)

v3.26.651.3 Update (NOT YET ROOTED)
This file has not been rooted so if you flash it, YOU WILL LOSE ROOT! This file is mainly for developers to clean it out and root it for our lovely consumption here at XDA . It is an UPDATE and not a full release so you will need to install (or be updated to) the official HTC ROM v1.47 before installing this update. There is still a 30fps cap in place unfortunately but you can install netarchy's 3.7.3c kernel to help alleviate your FPS troubles. You can install the updated radio and WiMax on other ROMs with no issue but make sure you do a nandroid backup first just in case something goes awry!
Full Update
Sendspace Mirror http://www.sendspace.com/file/tos61r
Updated Radio v2.15.00.07.28 (thanks to 'efuse' for extracting it!)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2lc8re
Updated WiMax v26023 (thanks to 'efuse' for extracting it!)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/urr87e
Details so far:
Unrevoked's Twitter account posted this stuff:
"Warning: this Froyo OTA for EVO will wipe out your ENG hboot as well."
"FPS2D says 30fps avg."
"Froyo + EVO Linpack: 34.046 MFLOPS http://yfrog.com/55m5ej"
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Thank you!!

Link to Froyo Update
here ya go courtesy htc
http://bit.ly/cCiIQu
You will lose root, confirmed by unrevoked .... also lose hboot

holy ****......

this is only 84mb?? seems like is should be double that size

cmart4 said:
this is only 84mb?? seems like is should be double that size
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Froyo roms are considerable smaller than the 2.1 and lower roms... I'm not sure why, but that is just the way it is.... baby.

I know it's faster? But 1/2 the size too? Impressive

Correct Forum. Thank You!

so to flash this from a stock evo, put it in the root of the sdcard named PC36IMG.zip and boot to recovery?

Anybody dl this rom yet?

ifly4vamerica said:
here ya go courtesy htc
http://bit.ly/cCiIQu
You will lose root, confirmed by unrevoked .... also lose hboot
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Thanks for this. Not sure if you or someone else has but it would be nice if the developers got this as well so they can get to work on it.

Is there a way to install it. I don't have root access

would like to know what the kernel version is

Anybody know what's required in the OS for apps to have access to root. Does this just need patching so su can be executed by other?

Jjday7 said:
Is there a way to install it. I don't have root access
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Yeah download and install

I just want someone to strip out the newest radio.

well ive got it just dont wanna load it til i see it rooted and hear the devs comments on it.

Is this for real?

http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...ses-android-2-2-froyo-ota-for-evo4g-download/

catpunt said:
so to flash this from a stock evo, put it in the root of the sdcard named PC36IMG.zip and boot to recovery?
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can someone confirm this

*Unroot 2.2* 3.29.651.5 10/20/10

Ok, this worked for me as of 10/20/10, i had my phone rooted by unrevoked, I am like many of the people here who kept having issues with all the PC36IMG.zip not working. I have extracted a new PC36IMG.zip from the ruu's and have not had any issues. I also had the dreaded "main version is older" issue. This seemed to take care of the issue! Im now back to stock!
Step 1 you will need to go here:
http://downloads.unrevoked.com/forever/current/unrevoked-forever-son.zip
If you used Unrevoked Forever at any time, flash unrevoked-forever-son.zip from recovery until hboot shows S-ON(Credit to djR3Z tut)
Step 2
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=108Z9R8Y
This is the PC36IMG.zip file that you will need
- Put this on the root of your sdcard
- Boot into hboot and let it load up the PC36IMG.zip
- It will run like a normal update
- Reboot when finished
- It will do a few other things (Load radio and update)
- After it fully loads you should be back to complete stock!!!!
Lemme know if this doesn't work for you
LIKE I SAID THIS WORKED AS OF 10/20/2010!!!
I am not responsible for damages to your phone! You chose to go the route you did, so face the consequences, I'm just posting what has worked for me, so use at your own risk! Love the android, love my evo!

Has been tested and works if you have a rooted via unrevoked method.

So can I update my evo ota to 3.29.651.5 and then follow these steps? Right now I have the stock 3.26.651.6 rooted with unrevoked3. TIA

m4f1050 said:
So can I update my evo ota to 3.29.651.5 and then follow these steps? Right now I have the stock 3.26.651.6 rooted with unrevoked3. TIA
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Im not understanding? If you apply just the PC36IMG you should at least lose root and be updated to latest update. You have to run the first tool to relock the bootloader. You will see in hboot if it is locked or unlocked. Locked is s- on unlocked is s- off

My bad, I was wanting to root or better yet, update to 29 and then root.
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yes you can achieve root on the new update through unrevoked. I'm not a fan of rooting this way, as people have had lots of trouble unrooting (had this problem myself). Thats why I came up with this tut so you can unroot if you have to send back to sprint. my method was the only one that worked for me to get unrooted.

people...just use unrevoked 3...i mean its a one click process...u dont have to do anything after that in about 2 minutes your rooted and nand unlocked =P

m4f1050 said:
So can I update my evo ota to 3.29.651.5 and then follow these steps? Right now I have the stock 3.26.651.6 rooted with unrevoked3. TIA
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Just flash a ROM that's based on the 3.29 update.

Well hopefully this works. I'm not going to root with unrevoked again I don't think. It was much easier for me to unroot my last phone w/o using unrevoked.
Nope, as of 1/19/11 this does not work.

Will this work if I didn't use unrevoked? I am currently having an issue where my usb/charging port is not working properly and can not connect to the computer. I am rooted but need to unroot so I can send my phone back.

Diplomat2387 said:
Will this work if I didn't use unrevoked? I am currently having an issue where my usb/charging port is not working properly and can not connect to the computer. I am rooted but need to unroot so I can send my phone back.
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This is incredibly outdated, so no, it will not currently work with your phone.

dkelle4 said:
This is incredibly outdated, so no, it will not currently work with your phone.
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Even if I downgraded my ROM?..I am currently on a 2.1 ROM..

Only one way to find out. It SHOULD. I ended up downloading one of the early official 2.2 releases and flashed that on my phone. Of course now it won't do another OTA because the "signatures are invalid".

dkelle4 said:
This is incredibly outdated, so no, it will not currently work with your phone.
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I haven't seen any "unroot" threads that have worked for me. Is there one I'm missing?

jpitt916 said:
Only one way to find out. It SHOULD. I ended up downloading one of the early official 2.2 releases and flashed that on my phone. Of course now it won't do another OTA because the "signatures are invalid".
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I tried just putting the pcimg on my sd card and power up into bootloader and it gives me an error saying that the image is older or something...Agh.

How to root HTC EVO from stock 4.3.3

This thread is intended for stock users running 2.3.3 or OTA users to root.
I am not responsible for any damage to your phone.
Steps:
1. Download PC36IMG.zip from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
Then place PC36IMG.zip on the root of SD Card.
2. Reboot into Hboot by holding the down volume button with the power button.
3. At the top of the Hboot screen, verify that "S-on" (Do not proceed is "S" is off.)
4. Allow PC36IMG.zip to update. this will flash the previous version of Android to allow for root to be accomplished by one of the many different ways.
Once flashed, "S" will remain on, so you will have to use a rooting method which turns this off.
If you are comfortable using ADB, that is looking like the best way to attain root. You can also use one click root tools also on this site.
Hope this helps. These are the steps I had to follow to root my HTC Evo that I got yesterday.
UPDATE:
My EVO was
ANDROID version 2.3.3
Baseband Version 2.15.00.05.02
Software Version 4.24.651.1
Hboot was:
"SUPERSONIC EVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-2.16.0001"
IF MY POST HELPED YOU, PLEASE CLICK THE THANKS BUTTON, OR DONATE!

Are u serious???? Your phone came with stock 2.3.3, and its now rooted with s-off???? Will unrEVOked work?

Guess we'll all know for sure when 4.3.3 lands

igotroot said:
Are u serious???? Your phone came with stock 2.3.3, and its now rooted with s-off???? Will unrEVOked work?
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Yup. You have no idea how much happy I am that this worked on my phone because coming from the a rooted Thunderbolt, it broke my heart to hear everyone say that I couldn't root. Now, I'm downloading MIUI to get some of it in my life!

dottat said:
Guess we'll all know for sure when 4.3.3 lands
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My EVO was
ANDROID version 2.3.3
Baseband Version 2.15.00.05.02
Software Version 4.24.651.1

Anyone else trying this?

jmin9012 said:
My EVO was
ANDROID version 2.3.3
Baseband Version 2.15.00.05.02
Software Version 4.24.651.1
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Thats great, but what was your hboot version before you did this?

If this is legit. This is huge.
Thanks for contributing man.

Tempting to try...
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SteelH said:
Thats great, but what was your hboot version before you did this?
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Exactly what I was going to ask. Please answer the question so I could get exited or not.
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BigJPR said:
Exactly what I was going to ask. Please answer the question so I could get exited or not.
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Hboot was:
"SUPERSONIC EVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-2.16.0001"

If this works there's a pretty big bounty to be had in the general section.

jmin9012 said:
This thread is intended for stock users running 4.3.3 or OTA users to root.
I am not responsible for any damage to your phone.
Steps:
1. Download PC36IMG.zip from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
Then place PC36IMG.zip on the root of SD Card.
2. Reboot into Hboot by holding the down volume button with the power button.
3. At the top of the Hboot screen, verify that "S-on" (Do not proceed is "S" is off.)
4. Allow PC36IMG.zip to update. this will flash the previous version of Android to allow for root to be accomplished by one of the many different ways.
Once flashed, "S" will remain on, so you will have to use a rooting method which turns this off.
If you are comfortable using ADB, that is looking like the best way to attain root. You can also use one click root tools also on this site.
Hope this helps. These are the steps I had to follow to root my HTC Evo that I got yesterday.
IF MY POST HELPED YOU, PLEASE CLICK THE THANKS BUTTON, OR DONATE!
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Oh man really hope this works! Might have to try it after work.

can someone conform this working on hboot 2.16.0001 ??

I have hboot 2.16.0001 and after the flash it says:
Main Version is older!
Update Fail!
Do you want to reboot device?
<Vol up> Yes
<Vol Down> No
*Edit* My software version is 4.22.651.2 (might be the issue but not sure)
Anyone else confirm this works?

jmin9012 said:
This thread is intended for stock users running 4.3.3 or OTA users to root.
1. Download PC36IMG.zip from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
Then place PC36IMG.zip on the root of SD Card.
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The file is only 4k, and maybe its just me....but i think that's corrupt.

igotroot said:
The file is only 4k, and maybe its just me....but i think that's corrupt.
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On the download page it shows 180 k but incest downloaded it showdown 4k and corrupt.
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BigJPR said:
On the download page it shows 180 k but incest downloaded it showdown 4k and corrupt.
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The one I downloaded was 189 mb

DL page is virus filled!!! but once you get past that nonsense you can DL the file or you can by pass than and go to filecrop.com and type in PC36IMG and you will find every IMG release... I would try this one >>> PC36IMG Supersonic 1.32.651.1 Radio 1.39.00.04.26 release 171253-signed.zip

ninoriff said:
DL page is virus filled!!! but once you get past that nonsense you can DL the file or you can by pass than and go to filecrop.com and type in PC36IMG and you will find every IMG release... I would try this one >>> PC36IMG Supersonic 1.32.651.1 Radio 1.39.00.04.26 release 171253-signed.zip
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So, you are recommending those because you tried this and work? Is one of those versions the same as the file from the linked thread?
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[HOW-TO] ROOT TMOUS OTA 2.3.4 (if you lost root)

For those that lost root due to the TMOUS OTA 2.3.4 update, here's how I got it back.
When i updated, I had to install the stock recovery for the update to take affect. When I reverted back to stock recovery, the update flashed. I wiped my device, however, and thought that I'd be able to keep root and use Titanium. I was wrong, so here's how I fixed it:
Requirements (mostly just reminders not really telling you what to do here....)
1. S-OFF prior to updating
2. Stock Recovery to process the update
3. Disable Fastboot (Settings > Power > Fastboot)
Regain Root on 2.3.4 OTA Update
1. Download the HBoot CWM Recovery and SU flash able ZIP file from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
2. Place the HBoot CWM Recovery file on the root of your sdcard (i.e.. sdcard/)
3. Power off device
4. Go into HBoot (Vol Down + Power)
5. Flash the CWM Recovery image
6. Reboot
7. Delete the CWM Recovery file off of your sd card
8. Power off
9. Reboot into Recovery (can be selected through HBoot if easier)
10. Choose the SU Root ZIP file that you downloaded in step 1 and flash it
11. Reboot, you're rooted with CWM Recovery again
This method work perfectly for me. I imagine anyone who did the OTA Update and has Rooted their phone would know they went to Stock recovery to apply the update or were always on it.

Thank you for the guide

Noobish question, how did you remove CWM and go back to stock recovery? Perhaps you should add this to the OP.

I was just gonna write this up. Oh well. THANX! I'd press your thanx button but I used them all up already. Maybe a beer?
EDIT: Can you please write up a how-to for going from whatever anyone is on to TMOUS Stock 1.45.531.1 + CWM + Root ? I believe it would be really helpful and I am just too lazy to do it myself

WARNING After installing the OTA, the bootloader now says in pink on the very top
******LOCKED*******
Also, Fastboot flash commands don't work (trying to flash splash image)
HBOOT is now: 1.18.0000
Re-running Revolutionary fixes it. and extended Fastboot commands work again.
And brings it back to 1.17.1111

if someone made a nandroid backup of the ota rooted thru cwm couldnt you just load that instead using the restore option?

As always gents.... Just a tiny tiny bit of patience will go a long way.
If your already rooted through Revolutionary, there is zero need to flash any official FOTA. Not sure why some people seem to want to try it out when they're already rooted? It's NO different than the Euro 2.3.4 OTA. Peeps all over these forums and the web are saying the same thing....no change.
Actually worse if you count the fact that heavy graphically intense games crash now as they do with all stock kernel 2.3.4 Euro ROMs.
Rooted versions of the Tmous 2.3.4 FOTA are already rolling out (birgertime I believe has one out). Give it a day and there will be more that are heavily customized like the ones from Baadz, Lee, Mike etc
It's easy to understand why people want to install the latest official firmware...but if you're rooted and or want to be....there is no need to ever go through official channels (HTC/Tmo) to get your updates.
Just for the people who might be unclear. To everyone else... carry on

Hoggles said:
As always gents.... Just a tiny tiny bit of patience will go a long way.
If your already rooted through Revolutionary, there is zero need to flash any official FOTA. Not sure why some people seem to want to try it out when they're already rooted? It's NO different than the Euro 2.3.4 OTA. Peeps all over these forums and the web are saying the same thing....no change.
Actually worse if you count the fact that heavy graphically intense games crash now as they do with all stock kernel 2.3.4 Euro ROMs.
Rooted versions of the Tmous 2.3.4 FOTA are already rolling out (birgertime I believe has one out). Give it a day and there will be more that are heavily customized like the ones from Baadz, Lee, Mike etc
It's easy to understand why people want to install the latest official firmware...but if you're rooted and or want to be....there is no need to ever go through official channels (HTC/Tmo) to get your updates.
Just for the people who might be unclear. To everyone else... carry on
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exactly what i said and what i was thinking. my brother in law & friend aren't rooted yet so they could go for the OTA but my fiancé and I are rooted. I have to make sure she doesn't install the update. i have no desire to root her sensation again. lol - for me, i'll be downloading the euro ota

EmceeGeek said:
exactly what i said and what i was thinking. my brother in law & friend aren't rooted yet so they could go for the OTA but my fiancé and I are rooted. I have to make sure she doesn't install the update. i have no desire to root her sensation again. lol - for me, i'll be downloading the euro ota
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Keep one thing in mind though... Your brother in-law & friend should realize that if they do ever one day want to root, they should stay far away from any official HTC updates. HTC will make them agree to an online waiver that will void many parts of their warranty if they choose to use HTC's online unlocker.
If they ever plan on rooting, they should go through Revolutionary....simply because it's the best of both worlds. You can have root, HTC/Tmo will never know.... and you can now get S-ON back after Revolutionary for warranty repairs and such

Quick question. I just got my sensation replaced with a new one(previous one had problems) and it came with 2.3.4 can I still get s-off and root?
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nxt said:
WARNING After installing the OTA, the bootloader now says in pink on the very top
******LOCKED*******
Also, Fastboot flash commands don't work (trying to flash splash image)
HBOOT is now: 1.18.0000
Re-running Revolutionary fixes it. and extended Fastboot commands work again.
And brings it back to 1.17.1111
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Thanks, I was wondering why this happened.

Nightfall983 said:
Quick question. I just got my sensation replaced with a new one(previous one had problems) and it came with 2.3.4 can I still get s-off and root?
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Yes Revolutionary works just fine, make sure you download the latest version from http://revolutionary.io/

nxt said:
Yes Revolutionary works just fine, make sure you download the latest version from http://revolutionary.io/
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Thanks, I'll root it now
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