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This might be just my imagination playing tricks on me, but after rooting/Soff/Flashing my Inspire, I seem to notice that the interface is not quite so snappy as it was with the stock AT&T ROM. I've observed it with both the rooted base stock ROM from Bubby and with the RCMiXHD_v5.1 Gingerbread ROM.
I just rooted mine last night, and it seemed a tad slow (Milliseconds ) until I restarted it, now, theres not enough difference for me to care.
Wait, scratch that, my slowness was caused by a messed up set cpu setting, my phone was fine last night and today under normal circumstances.
Hmmm... ok, so how does one change the CPU setting?
BillTheCat said:
This might be just my imagination playing tricks on me, but after rooting/Soff/Flashing my Inspire, I seem to notice that the interface is not quite so snappy as it was with the stock AT&T ROM. I've observed it with both the rooted base stock ROM from Bubby and with the RCMiXHD_v5.1 Gingerbread ROM.
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Most gingerbread roms are going to be a little laggy for the simple fact that the base is a leaked version of gingerbread. Until they get a fully operational version with source released or port the Desire Z rom it will continue to run a little slow.
Try flashing ClearDroid or TCP stock, you will be able to tell a difference in speed.
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Hmmm... ok, so how does one change the CPU setting?
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you will need to download "setcpu" to allow for overclock.
I checked the below video from Androidcentral.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMioPBv4PbI&feature=player_embedded
Looks like the EVO 3D got better handling on graphics speed. Is this because of the extra RAM? I just bought sensation and i still see some lag in overall touch and scroll experience. Its not bad but not very good either considering the beast hardware. Hope this can be solved by ROM chefs or by HTC themselves when they release a patch or something...
It is a sexy device ,the speed is pretty good for me I really don't get lag ,the data problems could just be some peoples service area ,but overall I'm loving the phone
sundar_amn said:
I checked the below video from Androidcentral.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMioPBv4PbI&feature=player_embedded
Looks like the EVO 3D got better handling on graphics speed. Is this because of the extra RAM? I just bought sensation and i still see some lag in overall touch and scroll experience. Its not bad but not very good either considering the beast hardware. Hope this can be solved by ROM chefs or by HTC themselves when they release a patch or something...
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Yep there are a number of people experiencing this with the Sensation including me. I'm getting mine exchanged but I have a feeling this is going to be an issue until we get an OTA
I have no doubt that there is much performance to be gained from these devices.
The ram isn't the reason. Probably just coding, I wouldn't worry about it.
For those of you who are familiar with HTC, do updates usually improve the speed and smoothness of the phone? And how about battery?
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For those of you who are familiar with HTC, do updates usually improve the speed and smoothness of the phone? And how about battery?
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Yes and yes. Normally.
If they don't the community here certainly will.
I saw that video yesterday and it gave me hope. Like many of you have said, I doubt it's the memory memory that's causing the lag. I'm sure with a few tweaks here and there they can speed up sense 3.0 on this device.
Im really very curious as to what is causing people lag. Mine is butter smooth and currently lag free
madwolf27 said:
Im really very curious as to what is causing people lag. Mine is butter smooth and currently lag free
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Like the Evo 3D on the video?
Who actually cares, though? The phone flies as it is and the next OTA will only improve that. Just enjoy the phone and stop comparing it to everything else
The difference is obvious and I haven't seen any Sensation that smooth on any video.
I'm pretty sure it's not the ram that causes lag. If it was ram Desire S Sense 3.0 port wouldn't have been so smooth like on that video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmiQs2SIKU8
Pretty sure the 1.34.401.1 ROM runs better from what I've heard so the next OTAs to come out will prob address the issue
I'm more than sure the evo 3D is just running a updated version of sense than ours. Stop stressing people.. Sheesh.
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I think its more to do with the screen (panel) and its refreshing rate and rendering speeds. Evo 3D screen might be totally different from sensartion as its a 3D display. I could be wrong and i wish i am wrong. I am hoping for a OTA or custom Rom solve this... still sensation is a better device and i am loving it...
What bloatware does the Evo 3D have loaded onto it? At least those of us on T-Mobile US are stuck with an anti-malware engine that we can't uninstall. It can't be helping.
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What bloatware does the Evo 3D have loaded onto it? At least those of us on T-Mobile US are stuck with an anti-malware engine that we can't uninstall. It can't be helping.
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What app is that? ill uninstall it NOW. Yes i'm on TMOUSA.
I don't think it's a RAM issue at all. I think it's one of two issues. Either it's all of the bloatware that starts up automatically every time you try to close it and some of which is not just running in the background. It is running in the foreground such as QIK video chat. I have never even used it before but it constantly want to run in the foreground. The other reason is that Sense 3.0 might not be fully optimized yet.
Here is why I think the bloatware is causing the issues. After I use a app that restarts everything (Fast Reboot) the system will be showing about 300mb of free memory is available. If you wait 30 minutes, the system then says less than 150mb of free memory available. I really do think that some of the bloatware is causing performance issues and memory leaks.
What is also weird is that I have had 4 Sensations with the same exact apps on them. I have noticed a difference in speed between all 4 of them. The one that I have now is the quickest and there is no stutter at all. The second one I had was lagging so bad that I just returned it for another. This tells me it's all software related.
Mine doesn't really lag but I can't get that carousel effect anymore. I've learned that if the phone works well keep it cuz you never know what kind of crappy replacement you might get
Has anyone used any kernels for HTC Sensation 4g (TMO US) above 1.566Ghz?
I am currently using a ROM by Mike1986 and kernel witch took my phone to 1.566Ghz and i am loving it.
However, i am a big OC freak and i would like some pointers on any tested kernels above 1.566Ghz, preferably that work well with Mike1986's ROM as i find them to be most stable our of all i have tried (i have tried 3 different types).
Any input is highly appreciated and welcome. Thanks team.
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Has anyone used any kernels for HTC Sensation 4g (TMO US) above 1.566Ghz?
I am currently using a ROM by Mike1986 and kernel witch took my phone to 1.566Ghz and i am loving it.
However, i am a big OC freak and i would like some pointers on any tested kernels above 1.566Ghz, preferably that work well with Mike1986's ROM as i find them to be most stable our of all i have tried (i have tried 3 different types).
Any input is highly appreciated and welcome. Thanks team.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
I honestly don't see the benefits except lower battery life and a warmer device, I doubt you'll notice the speed difference past like 1GHz. All of the higher freqs seem pretty much the same and aren't really worth the bother with, use a governor that accesses higher freqs quicker and you won't be needing high freqs.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
I honestly don't see the benefits except lower battery life and a warmer device, I doubt you'll notice the speed difference past like 1GHz. All of the higher freqs seem pretty much the same and aren't really worth the bother with, use a governor that accesses higher freqs quicker and you won't be needing high freqs.
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What governor would you suggest??? also, i know that when using you phone and maybe even playing games i wouldn't see much of a difference between the stock 1.2 Ghz vs 1.5 or 1.9Ghz but it's all about the bragging rights, lol. I like to go to my geeky friends and slappin’ a higher clock frequency than they have on their poor devices or silly I Phones. Also I have to tell you from my tests I do see Mike1986’s latest 3.6.7/4.1.7 Rom using much less battery life than stock Rom. I have noticed about a 10% improvement, maybe even more.
Also i do see a big improvement in Benchmarks. When i was using stock 1.2Ghz setting i was benchmarking much lower than the 1,5Ghz i am at now.
Thanks again for the input.
The benefit of custom ROMS and kernels, is that they are optimized to run well. Unless the chef sucks, most big name ROMS are optimized and more efficient.
I was running 1.2ghz for a while and whenever I'm playing Snes roms it would FC. After bumping it up to 1.72ghz it never did it again. Although 1.72ghz may be overkill for what I use my phone for but everything seems to be running extremely smooth.
dronepro said:
What governor would you suggest??? also, i know that when using you phone and maybe even playing games i wouldn't see much of a difference between the stock 1.2 Ghz vs 1.5 or 1.9Ghz but it's all about the bragging rights, lol. I like to go to my geeky friends and slappin’ a higher clock frequency than they have on their poor devices or silly I Phones. Also I have to tell you from my tests I do see Mike1986’s latest 3.6.7/4.1.7 Rom using much less battery life than stock Rom. I have noticed about a 10% improvement, maybe even more.
Also i do see a big improvement in Benchmarks. When i was using stock 1.2Ghz setting i was benchmarking much lower than the 1,5Ghz i am at now.
Thanks again for the input.
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I use conservative(810/192), super charger v6, ultra smooth rosie on 4.1.6. I haven't used benches, but they'll be low on this ROM since I'm assuming it's based on the Sense 3.5 leak for sensation.
Rickdaddy said:
I was running 1.2ghz for a while and whenever I'm playing Snes roms it would FC. After bumping it up to 1.72ghz it never did it again. Although 1.72ghz may be overkill for what I use my phone for but everything seems to be running extremely smooth.
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What Kernel is this? Can you provide a LINK?? thanks.
Thanks again to all for the imput.
Hi All,
I have Standard HTC Sensation rooted running DarkForest (latest):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423684
I then flashed this over it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
Whenever I am gaming etc with the device though it gets very hot.
Even before I put the Bricked Kernel over it still got extremely hot when playing games (eg GLWG).
Just wondering if this is something everyone experiences or if it is just my device or if it happens to some phones but not others?
Thanks
nnila said:
Hi All,
I have Standard HTC Sensation rooted running DarkForest (latest):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423684
I then flashed this over it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
Whenever I am gaming etc with the device though it gets very hot.
Even before I put the Bricked Kernel over it still got extremely hot when playing games (eg GLWG).
Just wondering if this is something everyone experiences or if it is just my device or if it happens to some phones but not others?
Thanks
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Its a very common problem. I think its cause of the running gpu. Happens to me too. Nothing to be distressed about.
nnila said:
Hi All,
I have Standard HTC Sensation rooted running DarkForest (latest):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423684
I then flashed this over it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
Whenever I am gaming etc with the device though it gets very hot.
Even before I put the Bricked Kernel over it still got extremely hot when playing games (eg GLWG).
Just wondering if this is something everyone experiences or if it is just my device or if it happens to some phones but not others?
Thanks
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Cool, glad to hear it.
Was worrying that maybe the OC'ing hadn't been done properly so wasn't toning down the CPU when it was running too fast and hot.
Was also thinking maybe I had a duff phone and needed to try swap it for a different one
DO NOT WORRY
You could maybe use an app to slower down your speed on your phone if that doesn't work. THIS ONLY WORKS ON ROOTED PHONES
I suggest using the (anTuTu CPU master) on the Google play store.
here is the link: http://bit.ly/JifNkI (Shortened because the link was too long)
Signing up for DropBox is really good i really recommend here's a link so me and you can get extra space! http://db.tt/1a1K7PgD
First of all I am no noob but I haven't had this phone long, I know there are different opinions but I want some different views from everyone to help me in my quest for the perfect gaming setup. Opinions on best gaming roms (must have decent gameloft compatibility), recommended tweaks etc please? My current setup is reaper rom OC to 1.5 and mc4 is still kind of laggy
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I experienced no lag at all while palying the MC4 on Stock ICS ROM And that too also without OC..
Only Temple Run was bit sluggish on ICS Stock ROM.
pramod.shinde1981 said:
I experienced no lag at all while palying the MC4 on Stock ICS ROM And that too also without OC..
Only Temple Run was bit sluggish on ICS Stock ROM.
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Any custom roms based on it? I know ice DS is, might try that next
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Oh and btw what's the framerate on mc4 like? By lag I mean bad framerate which causes sluggish rate of fire, makes it feel like I'm playing mc1 lol
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Overclocking too high, to the point where data failures start to occur / major heat builds up and causes thermal throttling of the CPU - will cause instabilities, stuttering and lag. I'd guess that you're already at that point.
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Oh and btw what's the framerate on mc4 like? By lag I mean bad framerate which causes sluggish rate of fire, makes it feel like I'm playing mc1 lol
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Not sure about the Frame rate...But the experience was good and I never felt that I should quit. I played almost all the games of Gameloft on my Stock ICS and GB..Was bit annoyed about Temple Run when I updated my phone through RUU..
Give me some time will check on my current Viper ROM and will update you.
Jack_R1 said:
Overclocking too high, to the point where data failures start to occur / major heat builds up and causes thermal throttling of the CPU - will cause instabilities, stuttering and lag. I'd guess that you're already at that point.
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OC has only ever improved performance so far for me, got no errors on setcpu stress test
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@non4 said:
OC has only ever improved performance so far for me, got no errors on setcpu stress test
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Using reaper with un-touch oc. Seems okay to me, didnt experience any lag. But then again i dont play much of this games.
*didnt know aiming was so simple. Just needed to click the scope and it auto aims :silly:
Update: tried reducing OC a bit and actually did see an improvement, best speed seems to be between 1.2 and 1.3, not 1.5, I fell victim to placebo effect
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I don't see you thanking #5 for his contribution that helped you.
rain987 said:
I don't see you thanking #5 for his contribution that helped you.
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You get a thanks for pointing that out
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Update: installed ice ds and speed is great even without OC, seems reaper is not as fast as it claims
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Great..enjoy..it also working great on Viper ROM...screenshot attached...
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pramod.shinde1981 said:
Great..enjoy..it also working great on Viper ROM...screenshot attached...
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Does nova 3 work on viper? It FC on every sense Rom I've tried so far
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Does nova 3 work on viper? It FC on every sense Rom I've tried so far
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Have played Nova 3 and 2 on my phone before rooting..
Unfortunately right now I don't have data files for the Nova3 on my SD card . Needs to check on my desktop and laptop once reached home. Right now in office .If I found the backup then will let you know...give me some time.
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Does nova 3 work on viper? It FC on every sense Rom I've tried so far
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I didn't have any problem, have you tried fresh install from playstore or did you use Tib backup
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jugg1es said:
I didn't have any problem, have you tried fresh install from playstore or did you use Tib backup
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Fresh installed each time, I have OCD so if it doesn't work it gets deleted it keeps closing at the splash screen after you pick a level
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