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hey all. I currently have a Vibrant, but I may have the option to move to a galaxy S 4g. We have great development on the Vibrant. I know for a while the development on GS4G was really slow, but how is it now? has it picked up? do you guys have official GB, or at least leaks of official GB? how are you custom froyo roms?
Thanks guys,
just would really like to know this before I make the move
You could also check out our development forum. There doesn't seem to be any shortage of development for the SGS4G, and there are GB leaks. I am not sure if we actually have official GB though.
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You could also check out our development forum. There doesn't seem to be any shortage of development for the SGS4G, and there are GB leaks. I am not sure if we actually have official GB though.
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Oh development has really picked up. Flash a rom one day and a brand new one comes out the next. As for gingerbread, we don't have an official yet but the leaks are perfectly fine especially when turned into a rom. Much better than the froyo roms.
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I gotta agree with everyone else here. One thing to keep in mind is that flashing with the SGS4G is different than flashing with the Vibrant.
Still slow, most roms are leaks. That said, gb touch wiz isn't that horrible, haha.
When cm7 starts rolling I suspect development will pick up rapidly. Crossing my fingers for miui.
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Still slow, most roms are leaks. That said, gb touch wiz isn't that horrible, haha.
When cm7 starts rolling I suspect development will pick up rapidly. Crossing my fingers for miui.
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ya well give the sgs4g credit at least its getting a gb rom from the manufacture the poor vibrant gb roms yes there good are all ports from other devices
actually almost all these leaks are official from samsung only kf1 and kf2 i think were sammyfirmware
I'm waiting for miui
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Hey guys I recently got an infuse from a buddy. Its never been rooted or anything, I came from the inspire where I noticed there was a lot more activity with ROMs, skins,etc... I'm wondering if this phone doesn't have as much interest or its harder to do things with? Ik nothing of the programming that goes into these things...just wondering if there will be more to come or if it is what it is?
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Hey guys I recently got an infuse from a buddy. Its never been rooted or anything, I came from the inspire where I noticed there was a lot more activity with ROMs, skins,etc... I'm wondering if this phone doesn't have as much interest or its harder to do things with? Ik nothing of the programming that goes into these things...just wondering if there will be more to come or if it is what it is?
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I also came from the inspire. The ROM activity here is nothing compared to the that phones development. HTC phones will always be superior with development and thats just the way it is. Partly because of the strong following of HTC Sense.
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Yes there will be more to come. From what I've read, the dev's are waiting for Att to release gingerbread.
If you look in the dev section you'll find lots to play with.
Cranky...
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Yes there will be more to come. From what I've read, the dev's are waiting for Att to release gingerbread.
If you look in the dev section you'll find lots to play with.
Cranky...
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Very good point. I remember the Inspire forums before the official GB builds came out. There was nothing happening and many people thought it was the start of a downhill path to the end of development for that phone. How wrong they were! Turned out all the devs didn't want to put in a lot of time to another build if GB was on the horizon. As soon as it hit, it was madness with all the new ROMs coming out. Hopefully the same happens here.
Cool I hope it all starts up soon... I will keep my eyes on the dev sections to see what comes up...fingers crossed
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Cool I hope it all starts up soon... I will keep my eyes on the dev sections to see what comes up...fingers crossed
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Me too. Its a tough call between Samsung and HTC though. Samsung has always had fantastic hardware and specs, HTC has always had fantastic software and vast dev community. Take your pick...
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Yeah. Pretty much what happened was:
Things slowed down as we all waited for Rogers Gingerbread, as few people wanted to put significant efforts into Froyo. A few (like Bedwa and myself) did so more as a learning experience. The lull gave some of us time to learn and play.
Then Rogers GB came out - there was a heavy flurry of development for a few weeks, including trying to correct the deficiencies of the Rogers Gingerbread release. Correcting some of these deficiencies seemed to be nearly impossible - after multiple attempts, HDMI was hosed, data speeds were crap, and camera performance was blah.
There was also all the *****ing people did at gtg over the data speeds issue which made a lot of devs nervous about posting stuff here. Nopcodex90 almost released a GB ROM but after seeing how many people complained about fundamental uncorrectable problems with Rogers GB, I believe he decided to hold off until AT&T released Gingerbread.
So people started getting frustrated with basing anything on the Rogers release, and we all decided to take a break and have some beers rather than bash our heads against the wall for little return. On top of that LinuxBozo had some stuff come up in RL for a few weeks, and similarly I had the following chain of events make me fall behind on phone hacking:
1) Family visiting for Labor Day
2) Epic flooding (4-6 feet above previous record) where I live - I was living at a friend's 40 minutes away for a few days, then no power for a few more, and no hot water for nearly a week.
3) Nasty sinus infection - I'm just recovering from this now.
Also, thanks to Hellrasier, A LOT of new ROMs have opened up to the infuse. So check out the android development for the Samsung i9000. I've played around with a few and they work really well.
After Gingerbread is officially released more will pick up for the Infuse specifically but until then it's fun to try some of the 10-15 that the i9000 give us.
Will the I9000 ROMs work seamless with our phones?
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Will the I9000 ROMs work seamless with our phones?
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Yes those are some of the best to use with hellraiser
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Will the I9000 ROMs work seamless with our phones?
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Hellraiser isn't quite seamless - there are known issues with it such as no audio on the first call without toggling speaker on/off, and all of the typical Rogers Gingerbread warts.
The other known Hellraiser issue consistent across many ROMs is that if the ROM has a "battery fully charged" notification, this notification will stick until the device is rebooted. Does not affect ROMs that nuke the notification in the first place such as Mikey's S7.
But so far nearly all I9000 ROMs work equally well with Hellraiser.
What is Hellraiser? As u can see im on my infuse from Rogers which must be what the I997R stands for.
Can I use this Hellraiser thing on my Rogers infuse?
Please advise...
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yiannisthegreek said:
What is Hellraiser? As u can see im on my infuse from Rogers which must be what the I997R stands for.
Can I use this Hellraiser thing on my Rogers infuse?
Please advise...
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Yes you can. It allows you to flash other samsung based roms. Ie the i9000 roms or others read the op
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It's been a tough haul for me with Tmobile/Samsung Galaxy phones. I started with a Vibrant with its GPS problems. After two T-mobile Vibrant swap outs and various software updates that accomplished little, they swapped for a SGS4G.
The SGS4G was no better on GPS and T-mobile wouldn't swap to anything else.
I never had a data contract, just used wifi for data. Last week I jumped on the $30 unlimited data prepaid plan. Well it turns out my SGS4G won't get cell data, not on Froyo not on Gingerbread.
So T-mobile now offers me a swap for another SGS4G or a LG-G2X or a HTC Sensation 4G. I'm posting here in case anyone with SGS4G experience also has some with the other phones.
It seems to me that its obvious I should switch. Both the LG and HTC are dual core and the Samsung is not. HTC has already committed to ICS on it, and LG has at least said the no ICS for G2X rumor has no basis. We all know Samsung is incredibly slow at updates, and their certainly is skepticism in this forum that they will ever have ICS for the SGS4G.
As to which to switch to, I'm not sure. The ICS commitment by HTC is certainly a plus. After my experience with Samsung my main issues are:
-- A well working GPS
-- Timely software updates
-- A potent hacking community
Any comments to help me decide?
I'd say get the sensation, i would if i ever got the chance. This phone is a great phone, don't get me wrong, but i just like the sensation. Never had an lg so i have no clue what that phone brings. I got this phone not knowing about XDA and modding. Once i found out about those, i kinda regretted getting this phone, but now things are better since we have official gingerbread and a great community that's here to help. I'm getting off topic now, so to answer your question, I'd say the sensation. OR you can stick with this phone and see what the future brings.
Hope i helped.
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I definitely agree. Sensations commitment to ICS is good enough for me but the hardware facts just beat out the sgs 4g. I do like the sgs 4g screen and resolution tho. But other than that, get sensation. My mom (I'm only 17 so i haven't moved out ) has it and I've been able to play with it. Hands down just a better phone. And i regret getting the phone too. This is my first android and did me soooo much justice, but for Modding and rooting it just isn't exactly the best. Sensation all the way. Hope I helped
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Yea the sensation should be your choice..I bought this phone without the intention of rooting it or anything,also I lost my last one so i needed a phone quick..if i knew the info i know now,i would of had another phone like maybe the mytouch 4g..So yea in short make the switch,easy.
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Samsung has neglected this phone in terms of updates. The Sensation is great if you want ICS, if that's not the biggest deal to you I'd get the Samsung Galaxy SII, as Samsung phones are well built, but with any Samsung phone don't expect an update within any timely manner.
I would get anything.g that could run CM. wink.
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I would get anything.g that could run CM. wink.
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Word lol
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G2X since it initially has a better battery because of AOSP and it always will get any CM before Sensation.
I want a swap sooo bad.
Get a sensation and sell it and youll be able to buy the sgs4g or the g2x and have extra cash.
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Man if I could switch. .. then again just about anyone would say that ;p
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what are some excuses or reasons I could give Tmobile for a swap??
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what are some excuses or reasons I could give Tmobile for a swap??
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+1 me too.
oh and get the sensation. Even though I think you already knew that before you posted this thread just to make all of us jelous
I owned a g2x and it was bad. Very very bad. It was also the first batch of them. I hear they fixed a lot of the issues. I own a sgs4g and a sensation. The sensation has more options Rom and kernel wise. Speed wise my sgs4g with all its mods is just as fast. The sgs4g seems to have faster data speeds. The screen on the sgs4g is better. If custom roms and mods are what your after get the sensation. Performance wise a properly set up sgs4g may have a slight edge do to data speed. The sensation is confirmed to be getting ics as well a.d they are working on a port as well. Hope that helps.
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what are some excuses or reasons I could give Tmobile for a swap??
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Need good excuses
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G2x for a faster phone with a good screen and speakers.
Sensation for ROM's and Sense.
But you can't really go wrong with either one. Good luck.
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I'm kicking myself. After they offered me the Sensation or G2X, I waited a week to make a choice and get past Thanksgiving. When I called back their database had changed and would only offer another SGS4G.
Apparently the database changes from time to time based on factors I can only guess. They said that at the moment for a Vibrant they had multiple choices.
That sucks. Big time.
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I'm kicking myself. After they offered me the Sensation or G2X, I waited a week to make a choice and get past Thanksgiving. When I called back their database had changed and would only offer another SGS4G.
Apparently the database changes from time to time based on factors I can only guess. They said that at the moment for a Vibrant they had multiple choices.
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Mannnnn, that sucks. I would have jumped on the Sensation or G2x the second they asked me.
The SGS4G is good for what it is, but it's been highly gimped on the dev side and has no CM love.
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So apparently HTC has updated their list of devices receiving ICS... 2 of which being the Thunderbolt and Incredible 2. Clearly HTC and Samsung are seperate companies, but seeing how both these devices were released well before the DC maybe Samsung will give us some official ICS love.
Thoughts?
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It's a thought, maybe I can come back to bed and dream some more on ICS for the Charge! hehe.
They haven't released RIL wouldn't hold my breath.
Would be nice of them but I don't see that happening for months. If at all. Sammy isn't that great for pushing updates IMO from past phones..
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Points in favor of the Charge getting ICS:
It was a flagship phone, dropping support would tarnish Samsung's reputation
Contemporary phones seem to be getting ICS
The Charge has just been released for US Cellular as the Galaxy S Aviator, and 18 months of updates means it pretty much has to get ICS...
Points against the Charge getting ICS:
The Galaxy S isn't getting ICS, because Samsung says it doesn't have enough memory... and has the same amount of memory as the Charge.
Honestly, I have no idea what to expect at this point...
For now I would treat ICS on Droid Charge as....a miracle! rare to happen...but possible.
We'll have a better shot of a dev porting it before Samsung.
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Samsung, updating Droid Charge would be like putting it on the Fascinate...same phone Charge just has LTE
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Samsung has said that the original galaxy s phones aren't getting ics because they don't have enough ram after samsung puts tw on it. I will assume the galaxy s 1.5 phones aren't getting it either because they have just as much ram.
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It's been.pretty much said by Samsung that the Galaxy S line(including variations) won't get ICS since they want to include TW with it. That would, I assume, require more memory. Our only hope would be 100% stock ICS ported over.
But damn, if the Nexus S had LTE, that probably would have helped a bit.
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Yea my thing is .... Samsung would look hella bad if they didn't and HTC did update phones released prior to DC .Aside from that Sense is a lot more of a memory hog than tw... the thunderbolt ONLY has 25% more ram.. then again it has 25 % more ram so who knows
RE- ril; the fact that Samsung doesn't seem to want to release the code doesn't mean they wont release ICS... ril doesn't need to be public for them to release an official build... or am I mistaken?
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You are not. The RIL is just a necessity for a community build of it, which would likely come out much sooner than an official one if we could get ahold of it
The problem isn't the amount of RAM, it is the amount of space allocated for /system on the device. If they would include TouchWiz, it likely would not have enough space left for everything. However, the fact that I have heard there are internal builds of ICS for the Charge is promising. Also, the fact that the Thunderbolt is getting ICS helps our case as well.
Being that the charge and epic are so similar besides the keyboard, you guys should get with our devs and see if you can port over our cm9.
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Being that the charge and epic are so similar besides the keyboard, you guys should get with our devs and see if you can port over our cm9.
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We have cm9 besides the radio
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Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
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The charge seems like a really nice device. I'm surprised there isn't a ton of development for it. My friend was about to get rid of his till I had him root and eclipse it. Hope it picks up around here for everyone. Thought my epic was done for a while too, then all of a sudden, all kinds of goodies started popping up.
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Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
Check the android development forum
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There isn't a daily driver ICS build. Wifi only build is out so far. RIL is what's holding us back. :/
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Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434387
This is a PORT for the DC, as mentioned its only network connectivity is via wifi.
And for a good laugh read the entire thread.. but please dont add anymore garnage comments ... its just a good topic that got WAY out of hand
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Alright let me start off by saying i.love my g2x i guess i got lucky i never had a issue like some of the other horror stories ive reae here but i recently broke my screen and decided to try this galaxy s i had i was wondering if anyone has had one before how are the roms and kernels im busy with work i wont have time to really try any out and flash for a while so any advice would be nice
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Alright let me start off by saying i.love my g2x i guess i got lucky i never had a issue like some of the other horror stories ive reae here but i recently broke my screen and decided to try this galaxy s i had i was wondering if anyone has had one before how are the roms and kernels im busy with work i wont have time to really try any out and flash for a while so any advice would be nice
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G2x is soooo much better. My younger brother has a Galaxy S 4G, and it's a nice phone and all, but there is literally no development going on for it anymore. No Vanilla, MIUI, or ICS. G2x is wayyy faster although I really like the Galaxy S 4G's Camera.
G2x forsure
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Ya my g2x runs hell fire 1.7 n i love ics imma flash a few things this weekend just to see how it is being that the g2x was my first droid
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I had galaxy s4g development there its horrible just rehashes diffirent themes with ROMs. Although music player is really good and can take advantage of full voodoo
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I actually just got my Samsung Galaxy S 4g replaced from Tmobile with the G2X. I used the SGS4G for awhile.
I don't regret it one bit, this phone is a beast in comparison. I'm not even using ICS yet, and I'm so happy with my new device. Significant upgrade in my opinion, and as others have said ROM development is much more active.
The devs are trying to work out ICS, but nothing close to even "kind of" functional.
IMO the screen was a little better and voodoo sound is cool, but a majority of the ROMs are customized versions of a stable base. MIUI is also being worked on, however the significant gains in just about every other area out shine 2 perks. Can't comment on battery life yet, my G2X has "new toy syndrome" at the moment.
Bottom line, stuck my SGS4G in the box and sent it back this morning.
G2X > SGS4G
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So far the screen is the only thing i like about it i need to break down and buy a digitizer maybe a all white conversion for the g2x
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