As mentioned before why are so many people calling it Windows Phone 7.5 in my build information its 7.10 and the build is 7720 ?
does anybody know what the .68 at the end stands for?
freudator said:
As mentioned before why are so many people calling it Windows Phone 7.5 in my build information its 7.10 and the build is 7720 ?
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I guess it's a lack of knowledge =/
freudator said:
does anybody know what the .68 at the end stands for?
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No answer, sorry
experience7
why do people call mango wp7.5? because they can.
experience7 said:
I guess it's a lack of knowledge =/
No answer, sorry
experience7
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how long have you guys been using microsoft's products? the version number and naming conventions for windows os, being desktop or mobile is not governed by the version number but more to the number of succession of release.
"lack of knowledge"??? funneh.
bevoc said:
how long have you guys been using microsoft's products? the version number and naming conventions for windows os, being desktop or mobile is not governed by the version number but more to the number of succession of release.
"lack of knowledge"??? funneh.
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If you go by how WM was, he's correct. WM 6 was build # 6.0, WM 6.1 was build # 6.1, WM 6.5 was build # 6.5, & WM 6.5.X was build # 6.5.X. I have been wondering the same thing on WP7, but at the same time MS has never used a standard build # to release # format. WP7 is WinCE 6.1 for example & Windows 7 is is Win NT 6.1 if I remember correctly.
Simply because if you go to Settings---About you will find: Software: Windows*Phone 7.5 (even under 7712).
If I recall correctly, Microsoft is internally referring to it as Windows Phone 7.1, but is branding it as 7.5 for the general consumer/marketing.
Also, people are calling it a beta because it is a generic RTM, nothing more, and because it is not optimized for our phones, a lot of people just see it as another "beta" till we get the final version meant for our devices.1
musicmaniaccro said:
Simply because if you go to Settings---About you will find: Software: Windows*Phone 7.5 (even under 7712).
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This. I don't know why there is so much confusion. Seems pretty simple to me.
Tim.Smith said:
This. I don't know why there is so much confusion. Seems pretty simple to me.
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Because not everyone is running the Beta. They see build #'s & hear people calling it 7.5, it's that simple. To assume everyone is running the Beta & can go to Settings>About is rather silly.
Mango is officially "Windows Phone 7.5" even though it's version 7.10.7720.
7720 is the software build number. The .68 is the carrier/OEM version. You will see the .68 change for all phones/models but, the base software is 7.10.7720 if it is mango.
The RTM is what it is, it's the final software from Microsoft, now it's up to carriers/OEMs to customize it with their software and drivers for each phone, this is where the .68 will change.
If your running Mango and go into the About settings, it does show "Software: Windows Phone 7.5" so that's why it's being called 7.5
DavidinCT said:
7720 is the software build number. The .68 is the carrier/OEM version. You will see the .68 change for all phones/models but, the base software is 7.10.7720 if it is mango.
The RTM is what it is, it's the final software from Microsoft, now it's up to carriers/OEMs to customize it with their software and drivers for each phone, this is where the .68 will change.
If your running Mango and go into the About settings, it does show "Software: Windows Phone 7.5" so that's why it's being called 7.5
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Very good answer, gives the OP the answer he wanted without any condescending remarks.
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Hey
Does anyone have any information, including pictures if possible, of the new windows mobile OS, Windows CE 6.0?
On some reviews it states that you can find out about it at www.microsoft.com/windowsce but it looks like Microsoft have rearranged their sites... this just leads to the CE homepage, talks about 5.0 but no other.
I know it's not out yet... apart from the VS Dev tools, but was just wanting to see an insight before its eventual release.
Cheers!
I am very interested in seeing this too. I have seen many threads about creating custom ROMs. I would hope that if this OS has all MS promises, that someone would create ROMs for the phones in this forum based on the new kernal, if possible. Licensing issues aside...
Is this "hot" OS will be based on Real time system?? I too want to know more about it.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/may06/05-08CE6PreviewPR.mspx
micrsooft press release - although only beta to peopel who attended the show - im sure its leaked somewhere though!
Freedom said:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/may06/05-08CE6PreviewPR.mspx
micrsooft press release - although only beta to peopel who attended the show - im sure its leaked somewhere though!
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If anyone knows where I can get/buy this beta release, that would be great
The site gives a link at the bottom for more info... but that redirects you, and I can't find any info there... :-(
You know that Windows CE and Windows Mobile are Microsoft's names for two different products now, right?
Phones don't and will not run Windows CE.
Also, I read that Microsoft is seriously behind the competition with development of a real-time OS, such as would be suitable for handsets that use a single chip for radio and a main processor. Like, it's 18 months away, at best.
Meanwhile, SE and Nokia already have single-chip phones on the market, running a real-time version of Symbian.
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You know that Windows CE and Windows Mobile are Microsoft's names for two different products now, right?
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Are they? I was reading a review from Microsoft's own site saying that Windows CE 5.0 is also known as Windows Mobile 2005; and that the next version (it gave a codename but I can't remember it) will be Windows CE 6.0. ???
CE is the core
which mw is based on
so it's not the same
but they are connected to be sure
Is there a way to update my touch cruise with the latest version of Windows Mobie, which was released on 1st April ?
Officially, no, not until HTC customizes WM6.1 for our devices.
Unofficially, yes, check out the Upgrades section of the Polaris forum. Many have customized it for our devices already. Just be sure to read all the directions and understand the process before doing an unofficial upgrade.
Read some threads in the, well, "Polaris Upgrading"..
Hi all. I was wondering wether this unofficial ROMs are legal or not. I mean, distributing on e-mule a customized version of Windows XP would be illegal, but with Windows Mobile it may be different. The emulator for Windows is free, for example. So?
Thank you
M$ wanted to shut down XDA-DEV... i guess this answers your question...
Ok, thank you.
By the way, I think that uncle Bill would love to shut down many other legal sites... say, for example, www.ubuntu.com, or www.apple.com...
Sure they do... but those only mess up the market, we correct their products
HTC releases WM6.1 Upgrade for Touch Cruise
After update my Touch Cruise to Windows Mobile 6.1, I have noticed that ActiveSync is always running, even after close it. I have an Outlook Exchange account configured but the sync schedule is set to manual. I’ve read some forums and some people suggested to uncheck the automatic time zone in the phone settings, but this is not working also. This don't happen with WM6, before upgrade. Someone have this problem?
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ActiveSync should always be running, it is possible that it was set up not to be shown in the WM6 HTC App manager exclusion list.
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Is there a way to update my touch cruise with the latest version of Windows Mobie, which was released on 1st April ?
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There was no 6.1 upgrade released on the date quoted. Recent one floating on the first page of 'Polaris upgrading' threads. Check them and upgrade your device.
HTC has released 6.1 for the touch cruise. you can get it from there site.
hello
can window phone 6 softwares b installed on windows 7 phone?
or can i install windows 6.5 on htc mozart??????
no and no...
Can't get to Native APIs with 3rd party apps, so not.
They don't even support .NET CF in WP7...
So, no...
And if your rom has all the drivers I suppose you can install WM 6.5 on it. I can believe it's installable on i.e. an HD7 due to the hardware similarities with the HD2, but it would be hard as hell to use. The button requirements are different and you'd have to do some modding to remap buttons to make the phone usable without ridiculous amounts of frustration...
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And if your rom has all the drivers I suppose you can install WM 6.5 on it.
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AFAIK this can't be done. Nobody has ever ported WM6.5 to a WP7 device, and I don't believe anyone is working on it either
It's possible, but it's just not worth it. People are trying to put WP7 on their HD2, not WP7 on their HD7. Most consider that a downgrade and will not even bother working on it. Not to mention the hardware is basically the same with a worse build so you aren't really gaining anything by doing that
Hi Everybody !
you all know how strange it might be some requests form your boss but this is the most strange one !
My Boss has a system that work on WM 6.5 only and doesn't work on WM 7 and he requested that I should Provide him with 40 New WM 6.5 devices !
you know that they are not available currently So I figured out that I should buy new WM 7 Devices and Flash it Back to WM 6.5 !
I think theoretically this is possible but have anyone tried it ?!!!
I want to Try it on HTC 7 pro Device , Could anyone tell me wha the steps I need to do that ?
any other suggested Devices ? I only want it to be New ,with QWERTY keypad and I can install WM 6.5 on it !
Thank you all in Advance.
I don't think this will be simple, your best bet will be buying old stock of a WM 6.5 device. Many sellers on Ebay will still stock them I am sure.
Windows Phone 7 is a completely different product to WM 6.5, it is not just an upgrade. Think of it as a completely different product, because it really is. The OS and the hardware are very tightly integrated in mobile devices so you will probably have more trouble backporting a new WM7 phone to 6.5 that you will rewriting the system he needs, assuming it is his won work. Have you checked to see if the system runs on another OS such as blackberry or android?
Thank you for help.
The System works on on WM 6.5 !
if it is not possible to install WM 6.5 on a WM 7 device Do you think it can be done on an Android Device?
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Thank you for help.
The System works on on WM 6.5 !
if it is not possible to install WM 6.5 on a WM 7 device Do you think it can be done on an Android Device?
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everything is possible. if you can run ubuntu on android y not windows??
Theoretically it is possible.
but how to do that practically ? this is the problem !!!
HD2 is almost hardware similair to HD7. There is also experimentally the way to update HD2 to WP7 from HD7. But HD2 is still native WM6.5.3 device.
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HD2 is almost hardware similair to HD7. There is also experimentally the way to update HD2 to WP7 from HD7. But HD2 is still native WM6.5.3 device.
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I want to put WM 6.5 on HD7 ! Do you think that is possible ?
Until cottula Didn´t release anything then you are gone. HD2 is "Native WM 6.5" Device So you can do on it upgrade! but you can´t downgrade to WM 6.1.. Same should be on HD7
Try to get HD2 in shop..
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I want to put WM 6.5 on HD7 ! Do you think that is possible ?
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Practically yes! At this moment not! May be never too.
As I told - HD2 and HD7 have basically same hardware, but it doesnt mean that firmware from HD2 will work on HD7 without changes.
WP7 is already ported from HD7 to HD2, of course with some limitations and bugs in functionality.
To buy native wp 6.5 device (like HD2) via ebay is I think the best solution for you case.
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but you canґt downgrade to WM 6.1....
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I can make 6.1 for HD2 as I did For native wm 6.5.3 samsung b7350 by downgrading it to wm 6.1.
Its because wm 6.X and less has almost same kernel so you can update from 5.0 to 6.5 and vise versa if you know how. Also you can use all programs from wm 2003 on wm 6.5...
WP7 is totally new OS - new kernel, and is not compatible with older apps..
Believe or dont- MS has spent many years by sitting at one place without serious improvements to their mobile products.. till Google came up with its Android for kids and made revolution. Temporary! MS will fight back at the end of 2011 with New WP update on new Nokia with multicore.
Nokia put their last hope to survive into WP7 as Microsoft. So do they win or fail together we will se later
heineken78 said:
I can make 6.1 for HD2 as I did For native wm 6.5.3 samsung b7350 by downgrading it to wm 6.1.
Its because wm 6.X and less has almost same kernel so you can update from 5.0 to 6.5 and vise versa if you know how. Also you can use all programs from wm 2003 on wm 6.5...
WP7 is totally new OS - new kernel, and is not compatible with older apps..
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Thank you for your explanation.
Hi Everybody !
you all know how strange it might be some requests form your boss but this is the most strange one !
My Boss has a system that work on WM 6.5 only and doesn't work on WM 7 and he requested that I should Provide him with 40 New WM 6.5 devices !
you know that they are not available currently So I figured out that I should buy new WM 7 Devices and Flash it Back to WM 6.5 !
I think theoretically this is possible but have anyone tried it ?!!!
I want to Try it on HTC 7 pro Device , Could anyone tell me what the steps I need to do that ?
any other suggested Devices ? I only want it to be New ,with QWERTY keypad and I can install WM 6.5 on it !
Can this be done with an Android Device ?
Thank you all in Advance.
Not possible.
Contact your business carrier and see if they can get anything, otherwise tell boss it is no longer made and WP7 is not an upgrade but a new product which is incompatable and nowhere near as good as WM6.5.
Just tell him MS have lost the plot.
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I feel your pain mate, WM6.5 was great and MS have taken a huge leap backwards. We're not alone either, their market share has plummetted due to the move as people have either desperately scrounged for WM6.5 devices or moved to Android and had their in house apps re-written or found new alternatives.
WP7 and winmo 6.5 are completely different and not backwards compatible as said above.
Winmo 6.5 was good, but Mango is promising, however, specifically written programs written for business are a different ball game, get on to ebay and buy some HD2's, unless you know a developer who can re-write the programme for WP7?
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WP7 and winmo 6.5 are completely different and not backwards compatible as said above.
Winmo 6.5 was good, but Mango is promising, however, specifically written programs written for business are a different ball game, get on to ebay and buy some HD2's, unless you know a developer who can re-write the programme for WP7?
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There is no Upgrading for the System !
I will try the HD2 Choice.
Thank you for your support.
The hd2 is awesome. I've had win6.5, win7, ubuntu and a ton of android versions on it. If you have an issue, just wipe it clean and start over.