Gorilla glass? ...Maybe not. - Motorola Triumph

My phone's screen already has a scratch on it. I took off the 2nd screen protector thinking things would be rainbows and unicorns because GORILLA GLASS, that magical protection against all things sharp and pointy.
Not so apparently. The funniest part? My phone is rarely outside of my pocket, and it's always in its own pocket. There was a single incident in which it was in a pocket with other things, but the sharpest object in there was maybe a pencil. The screen also gives some pretty heavy flex with I push down it.

Hmm, thanks for sharing. I was actually just about to take the protector off for a clean feel sake. Guess now I won't.

Yeah, I hate to have to be "that guy", but I guess the uncertainty about the screen can finally be laid to rest. It's not GG.

It is gorilla glass confirmed by Motorola and corning, put this to rest. Its scratch resistant not scratch proof
Sent from my MOTWX435KT

It may not be gorilla glass but it definitely appears to be glass, and I'm happy with my protector off.....

rockneo said:
It is gorilla glass confirmed by Motorola and corning, put this to rest. Its scratch resistant not scratch proof
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So is it reasonable to expect a sea of nails to not scratch the almighty Gorilla Glass, yet have to whip the old "-resistant, not -proof argument" out when extremely light contact with something as comparatively dull as a standard #2 pencil brings it to its knees? I don't wear tight pants either, so don't even bother.
Please, people. Take the wool from over your eyes. I'm seriously starting to doubt if this thing is even glass.

rockneo said:
It is gorilla glass confirmed by Motorola and corning, put this to rest. Its scratch resistant not scratch proof
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Source? I've had 3 other devices with GG, no scratches on any of them, and they've had long lives that went through the wringer from drops to keys in the same pocket. This thing has 2-3 noticable scratches on it already. I plan to keep the screen protector off since I hate them and the damage to others $20-40 resale (at the time of sale, probably more as of today) has been done, while I can live with them.

Source: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/motorola

rezanow said:
source: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/motorola
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no foul language

EmilVee said:
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I'm not arguing with you. You asked for a source, I gave you the source. I have a Triumph, and I haven't had any problems with it, despite my rough handling of it.
As they say, "Your mileage may vary..."
I would wager it's a manufacturing flaw in your specific unit. Exchange it?

gorrilla glass ya or na
EmilVee said:
My phone's screen already has a scratch on it. I took off the 2nd screen protector thinking things would be rainbows and unicorns because GORILLA GLASS, that magical protection against all things sharp and pointy.
Not so apparently. The funniest part? My phone is rarely outside of my pocket, and it's always in its own pocket. There was a single incident in which it was in a pocket with other things, but the sharpest object in there was maybe a pencil. The screen also gives some pretty heavy flex with I push down it.
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When I first got this phone one of the big questions was did it have gorrilla glass or not. Some people said yes and some said no. So I went on Gorrilla Glass's website and sure enough the Triumph is listed as having their product. Apparently some people still choose not to believe but I don't know why Gorrilla Glass would list the Triumph as having their product on their website if it didn't have gorrilla glass. When I first saw a video showing the removal of the second screen protector and how by removing it made it more responsive and took away the bluish tint I was still reluctant in doing so. After getting a scratch on the screen protector I decided to remove it. Best thing I ever did. I've had no problems personally but remember highly scratch resistant not scratch proof.

This guy is just butthurt
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robbiebobby58 said:
When I first got this phone one of the big questions was did it have gorrilla glass or not. Some people said yes and some said no. So I went on Gorrilla Glass's website and sure enough the Triumph is listed as having their product. Apparently some people still choose not to believe but I don't know why Gorrilla Glass would list the Triumph as having their product on their website if it didn't have gorrilla glass. When I first saw a video showing the removal of the second screen protector and how by removing it made it more responsive and took away the bluish tint I was still reluctant in doing so. After getting a scratch on the screen protector I decided to remove it. Best thing I ever did. I've had no problems personally but remember highly scratch resistant not scratch proof.
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"Highly scratch-resistant":
A pencil.
Loose jeans.
I'm not buying it, sorry.

EmilVee said:
"Highly scratch-resistant":
A pencil.
Loose jeans.
I'm not buying it, sorry.
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You don't have to buy it - we're giving it to you - FREE.
What I don't buy is all these whiners complaining about their scratched screen but yet NONE of them ever fess up to having done something to have caused it.
It doesn't matter what phone they have - there are threads in every one of these forums with someone complaining that they scratched their gorilla glass screen.
Get over it, or go back to your bag phone.

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You don't have to buy it - we're giving it to you - FREE.
What I don't buy is all these whiners complaining about their scratched screen but yet NONE of them ever fess up to having done something to have caused it.
It doesn't matter what phone they have - there are threads in every one of these forums with someone complaining that they scratched their gorilla glass screen.
Get over it, or go back to your bag phone.
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Bag phone? What the hell are you talking about?
Believe me, I don't have anything to hide. This really isn't that big of a deal. It's just a phone. Maybe you should check your priorities.

EmilVee said:
Bag phone? What the hell are you talking about?
Believe me, I don't have anything to hide. This really isn't that big of a deal. It's just a phone. Maybe you should check your priorities.
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If it's not that big of a deal, why are you whining about it? I respect that you are upset, but if you want something done about it, complain to the people that matter. We can't help you with this any more than we have. I'll say it again, it sounds like you got a lemon. That doesn't mean all Triumphs are lemons.

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Bag phone? What the hell are you talking about?
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Here's your bag phone - this is what the hell I'm talking about. You may whine and complain about this one too those since it's a Motorola as well.
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Rezanow said:
If it's not that big of a deal, why are you whining about it? I respect that you are upset, but if you want something done about it, complain to the people that matter. We can't help you with this any more than we have. I'll say it again, it sounds like you got a lemon. That doesn't mean all Triumphs are lemons.
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Funny, because this is my sixth Triumph. Saying that I got a "lemon" would imply that this is an isolated incident of poor construction. This clearly isn't the case. The Triumph is a shoddy phone.

EmilVee said:
Funny, because this is my sixth Triumph. Saying that I got a "lemon" would imply that this is an isolated incident of poor construction. This clearly isn't the case. The Triumph is a shoddy phone.
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Sounds like you wouldn't be happy with any phone.

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XtremeGuard > InvisibleShield screen protectors

I ordered this protector off Amazon at the same time I ordered my Otterbox Commuter case. Got it yesterday and applied it tonight. This protector is kind that is applied with a soapy water solution, similar to that of a full body skin like InvisibleShield. This protector was $2 on Amazon so I figured why not give it a shot. I have installed IS protectors before so I knew what I was getting myself in to and was up to the challenge.
First and foremost, the seller (Prestige Solutions) processed and shipped my order as fast as could be expected. Order was placed on the 24th, shipped on the 25th, I received it on the 27th. It arrived in a regular envelope and included the protector itself, a cleaning cloth and a squeegee as well as very clear and easy to follow instructions for application. It took all of 5 minutes to do the install, and only took that long because I had a couple problem spots along the edge of the screen that I had to give a little extra attention to in order to make sure it adhered properly. Installation goes something like this: Remove the battery. Get a bowl of water and add a couple drops of dish soap or baby shampoo to it. Clean the screen and then wet your fingers and with your wet fingers, peel the backing off the protector. Wet the back of the protector completely and place it on the screen. I just used my fingers to get the protector wet, making sure to moisten the whole back side and allowing the excess to drip off before setting on the phone. I then got my microfiber towel and while sliding the protector into place, absorbed any excess water that got near the speaker or began to ooze out from under the protector. Once in place I used the squeegee and started "brushing" it over the protector to get as much of the water and bubbles out as possible, dabbing the phone with the microfiber to absorb the excess. Once I got as much of the moisture out as possible, and once the protector felt it was sticking nicely, I used the micofiber one last time to make sure the edges were stuck down firmly and cleaned the protector as well.
The key is using just enough water, it sounds hard and maybe dangerous, but it's very easy and as long as you don't get carried away with the water you should be fine. It will take a few days for the protector to fully cure and the remaining moisture to evaporate so don't fret if you notice some under there the next day. Once it's completely cured and dried you shouldn't even be able to tell it's there, aside from the slight edges you can see around the ear speaker and camera. This protector is cut very precisely and fits like a glove. It's pretty thin and has a rubbery kind of feel to it once wet. Compared to the Gorilla Glass, it doesn't feel quite as slick, but then again I've only had it on for 3hrs now and haven't gotten a real feel for it yet since i'm just letting it cure. Speaking of which, it says you should leave the battery out for 24hrs as a safety precaution to allow any water to dry up, although generally 8hrs is plenty. It also states that it will take 1-2 days for any haziness and bubbles to go away. Having done this before, I assure you that's exactly what happens and once fully cured it looks lovely.
I will post an update in the second post here in a couple days with my review of the look and feel of it.
http://www.xtremeguard.com/Motorola-Atrix-2-II-Screen-Protectors-p/atrix_2_ii_screen_protector.htm
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**Follow up**
Well, the protector is fully cured so here's my take.
The main thing, it did not negatively effect the quality of the display, you cant even tell its there aside from the slight edge around the camera. But other than that its invisible. It is perfectly cut, is very thin and even when u tilt the screen at an angle to catch the reflection you dont see any texture at all, its like nothing is there. Its optically clear and allows the display to shine. The only thing I dont like about it is that it does not shed fingerprints effortlessly like the bare screen does. But I like that it also makes the screen more grippy. The glass was very slick, almost too slick for my liking, its not slick anymore but allows ur fingers to glide across it but without letting them get away from you. I actually enjoy typing much more on it now as my thumbs arent sliding on to neighboring letters anymore, improving my accuracy tremendously. Aside from the fingerprint issue, I love this protector and highly suggest it to anyone looking for one. Its the best $2 you're gonna spend on ur phone!
**Update**
I was able to compare this $2 screen protector to the much more popular and widely available InvisibleShield screen protector, which is virtually the same thing, a wet applied protector. I'll let the pictures speak for themselves.....Keep in mind the InvisibleShield protector is about $20 in stores.
My phone, in Otterbox Commuter w/XtremeGuard screen protector
Random phone w/InvisibleShield screen protector
I have two friends at work, both with Samsung Galaxy S phones, one has the SGSII, and both of them have the InvisibleShield protector installed and they look even worse than the one pictured above....it looks like an orange peel on steroids, I kid you not. After seeing my protector, they both want XtremeGuards now! Which would you prefer?
good review! just out of curiosity, why did you get a screen protector for your phone if we have gorilla glass? i am trying to figure out if i want one or not.
also is your screen smooth like glass or is it kind of sticky? i ask because i don't like dragging my finger on the screen and the screen protector kind of makes it tacky. from what i remember, the invisible shield does that.
Gorilla glass still scratches.I know for a fact since I have a 1cm scratch I acquired before ordering the xtreme guard.
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kindacrazyazn said:
good review! just out of curiosity, why did you get a screen protector for your phone if we have gorilla glass? i am trying to figure out if i want one or not.
also is your screen smooth like glass or is it kind of sticky? i ask because i don't like dragging my finger on the screen and the screen protector kind of makes it tacky. from what i remember, the invisible shield does that.
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Thanks. Because GG can be scratched.
But I like that it also makes the screen more grippy. The glass was very slick, almost too slick for my liking, its not slick anymore but allows ur fingers to glide across it but without letting them get away from you. I actually enjoy typing much more on it now as my thumbs arent sliding on to neighboring letters anymore, improving my accuracy tremendously.
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916x10 said:
Thanks. Because GG can be scratched.
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Got it, sorry i guess i missed that part when reading it. i guess i will be ordering mine now! haha
kindacrazyazn said:
Got it, sorry i guess i missed that part when reading it. i guess i will be ordering mine now! haha
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No worries. You'll be happy with it, just don't use too much soap and follow the direction to the T. I have no bubbles, no dust, no streaks and best of all, no orange peel!
I just ordered it and hopefully it comes just as quickly as yours did. I didn't get an otterbox though. I got the tpu one just because I like the feeling alittle better. I will try to post result asap.
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kindacrazyazn said:
I just ordered it and hopefully it comes just as quickly as yours did. I didn't get an otterbox though. I got the tpu one just because I like the feeling alittle better. I will try to post result asap.
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If you bought it from the same seller, bank on it! They did not mess around, it actually came earlier than expected. Alot of people swear by the TPU cases, I may just get one to see what it's all about.
I personally like them. I had on for my last phone and it did a good job. It isn't an extremely snug fit but it wrapped around the phone just right so it didn't need to be snug.
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Just a question, please :
Is this screen protector hard or soft ?
I did use a complete Invisible Skin on my HD, but I removed the screen part, as it made it rubbery, so the stylus was sinking inside the material, and the fingers disn't slip well (it was really rubbery, then )
Plus it rendered like orange skin, just like your second picture, so the readability was decreased.
I was glad with the all the other parts (complete protection) however, as the rubbery aspect was desirable there : it added increased anti-slip effect, plus it's a very good protection - it made the HD almost as bumpy as a rubber ball.
But you have to know that it did't last much more than two years.
The material became yellowish, then became very fragile and tore apart even under slight nail pressure.
Finally, the material unstuck itself, leaving the glue-like part on the phone !
Of course, it's important to know we have a temperate to hot tropical climate here (never cold, then), and most glue or synthetic material don't last very long (for instance, all fabric fall off from car's roofs after a few years, because the glue and/or the foam lining underneath can't stand the temperature for too long).
also, i was wondering, did they give you a tracking number? i ordered if from the same person but i checked on amazon and there is no tracking number or anything. it just says it has been shipped.
Z80-Man said:
Just a question, is this screen protector hard or soft ?
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Not sure how to answer this.....but it's only $2 bro, but one and try it for yourself.
kindacrazyazn said:
also, i was wondering, did they give you a tracking number? i ordered if from the same person but i checked on amazon and there is no tracking number or anything. it just says it has been shipped.
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No, didn't get a tracking # cause it just came first class mail.
Can you make a video of you installing it and post it on YouTube? I just got my atrix 2 and ordered the screen protector. Butt guess what I bought the screen protector and a cover as a combo but for the first atrix! I was so excited that I didn't even notice it. At least the car charger still works. Oh well ill have to order the correct item again. When the items arrived I was mas cause thought they messed up, I later looked at my order and realized I was the one mistaken.
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TheChemist187 said:
Can you make a video of you installing it and post it on YouTube? I just got my atrix 2 and ordered the screen protector. Butt guess what I bought the screen protector and a cover as a combo but for the first atrix! I was so excited that I didn't even notice it. At least the car charger still works. Oh well ill have to order the correct item again. When the items arrived I was mas cause thought they messed up, I later looked at my order and realized I was the one mistaken.
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So you're asking me to peel mine off and reinstall it, on video?!
Wow I still haven't received mine yet. I have until the 16th though but I wish I had it now because I want to install multiple screen protectors at once.
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kindacrazyazn said:
Wow I still haven't received mine yet. I have until the 16th though but I wish I had it now because I want to install multiple screen protectors at once.
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Wow, mine arrived very fast. Why are you gonna install multiple protectors? Plan on doing a video to show how to do it and the end results of each?
i might but i don't have a camera mount to record it with and i have an itouch that i have a screen protector for and i haven't installed it because i was waiting for the other one on it to need replacing (which it does now). and the other one is an invisible shield too. i can post result pics though.
kindacrazyazn said:
i might but i don't have a camera mount to record it with and i have an itouch that i have a screen protector for and i haven't installed it because i was waiting for the other one on it to need replacing (which it does now). and the other one is an invisible shield too. i can post result pics though.
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Oh ok, just wondering. Somebody asked me to take mine off and make a video of the installation so I was just wondering what you were up to and if you'd be able to handle that. But no worries. I personally don't think a video of how to install it is necessary but sometimes people just need to visual to get them to do it, or not.
Ya I agree with you. The directions are pretty self explanatory for installing any screen protector. Just don't get soapy water all of the place.
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just got my protector in the mail.

Accidentally put my keys in the same pocket as my One X...

So today I had something unfortunate happen.
I was running late for work and jammed my keys into the same pocket as my phone. I never do that, ever. I always have my right pocket dedicated solely to my phone. Immediately, I thought "well.. so much for having a flawless phone. I guess it's about time, I've had it for over a month. After all, it is just a phone."
After work I drove to the local mall and bought an Oakley eye glass cleaning kit to use with my phone, something that I've been meaning to do for a while. I really only needed the microfiber cloth, as I don't wear glasses but the kit looked too good to pass up.
After carefully wiping down the screen I began to notice something, the screen is fine! I spent a good 15 minutes checking the phone in various lights, eventually going outside to confirm what I was seeing. There isn't a single hairline scratch anywhere on the screen. :victory:
I've had the phone since launch day and I gotta say, I was shocked. I don't use a screen protector, and just sort of accepted the fact that the screen would scratch, but it never happened. Big shout out to HTC and Corning Gorilla Glass for making a screen that (in my mind) doesn't need a screen protector. I'd take pictures of it but the best camera I have right now is my HOX.
Are you guys getting similar results? Or are you all using screen protectors. For those of you who scratched your phone, how did it happen? Do you normally keep keys/change in the same pocket?
ECEXCURSION said:
So today I had something unfortunate happen.
I was running late for work and jammed my keys into the same pocket as my phone. I never do that, ever. I always have my right pocket dedicated solely to my phone. Immediately, I thought "well.. so much for having a flawless phone. I guess it's about time, I've had it for over a month. After all, it is just a phone."
After work I drove to the local mall and bought an Oakley eye glass cleaning kit to use with my phone, something that I've been meaning to do for a while. I really only needed the microfiber cloth, as I don't wear glasses but the kit looked too good to pass up.
After carefully wiping down the screen I began to notice something, the screen is fine! I spent a good 15 minutes checking the phone in various lights, eventually going outside to confirm what I was seeing. There isn't a single hairline scratch anywhere on the screen. :victory:
I've had the phone since launch day and I gotta say, I was shocked. I don't use a screen protector, and just sort of accepted the fact that the screen would scratch, but it never happened. Big shout out to HTC and Corning Gorilla Glass for making a screen that (in my mind) doesn't need a screen protector. I'd take pictures of it but the best camera I have right now is my HOX.
Are you guys getting similar results? Or are you all using screen protectors. For those of you who scratched your phone, how did it happen? Do you normally keep keys/change in the same pocket?
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I had something similar happen to me today. I have this two pocket canvas pouch that I wear sometimes when I'm working. One pocket is filled with screws, and the other is just for my phone. You already know where this is going. I didn't put the phone in the screw pocket, but I did toss a handfull of wall dogs into my phone pocket, while the phone was still in it. Wall dogs are some seriously nasty screws with massive, razor sharp threads. I realized what I did instantly, and very carefully extracted the screws one by one out of the pocket. Happy to say, there wasn't a scratch on my beloved HOX. I use a Diztronic TPU case and no screen protector. Scary sh*t man.
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I've been using a screen protector since I got the phone. I had a Samsung note for a week that had a pretty long scratch on it and don't want the same thing to happen to this phone!
I never do anything risky like this with my phone.. But the lint always seems to get me
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Must be the week lol yesterday I took my kids to a water park so I had my phone in the side pocket of my back pack and was sitting on one of those lounge chairs went to take it out and dropped on the cement it was like slow motion I was like noooooooo!!!!! The phone hit face down. But I was amazed I only had one small I mean small scratch near the bottom corner. I've had the phone since may 4th pre order and never had a case or screen protector on it. But that little scare seeing my hox hit that cement did it I went today and had a zag full body put on it.
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GG2 is generally tougher than metal screws, so it won't scratch.
Sand is a completely different story and if you let it near the screen you will probably get scratches.
gg2 isnt in this phone
KNife stab to the HOXL
I put the HOXL to the test and decided to scratch it on purpose using a sharp knife, you will be amazed by the results. check out the video review i did.
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Blasphemy!
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expertzero1 said:
gg2 isnt in this phone
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Lol gg2=gorilla glass 2
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I rock my hox naked and no scratches to date, even drug it across a rock on accident. Mint.
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Phone has first generation of gorilla glass not gg2. If this is the first generation I can imagine how 2 is
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tererai said:
Phone has first generation of gorilla glass not gg2. If this is the first generation I can imagine how 2 is
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Incorrect. The HOX definitely has GG2. Aside from the fact that every single article about the HOX on the net says it's GG2, here is a little confirmation from HTC themselves-
This isn't me btw, I just found it in another thread.
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tererai said:
I put the HOXL to the test and decided to scratch it on purpose using a sharp knife, you will be amazed by the results. check out the video review i did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpR306UYNBc
Check out the video
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That made me wince, nice video man. Still gotta worry about grit tho, good to know keys/metal/etc is ok tho
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tererai said:
I put the HOXL to the test and decided to scratch it on purpose using a sharp knife, you will be amazed by the results. check out the video review i did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpR306UYNBc
Check out the video
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Semi unrelated, but what case is that? I love that look.
Also I know this glass is a beast but I would never go without a screen protector after my G2x bit the dust, literally.
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out of curiosity do any of you have scratches on the plastic housing. I dont want to use a case cause I think it ruins the phones look. Only have screen protector but dont know how well the plastic holds up
ky77 said:
out of curiosity do any of you have scratches on the plastic housing. I dont want to use a case cause I think it ruins the phones look. Only have screen protector but dont know how well the plastic holds up
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Your answer can be found here: http://pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/pcw.nsf/mobile/review-htc-one-x
I'm not sure. Before I replaced my last one x for bad pixels I was without a screen protector for a bit. With very light use I noticed very fine micro scratches that you could see in direct light. Not deep or anything but they were still noticeable and very annoying.
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Put my phone in pocket accidentally with my keys and scratched the screen...not impressed with its durability at all. This is the FIRST phone I have EVER scratched in my life and I have had a ton. Luckily I put on a zagg HD protector after and you can't tell. Pissed me off, but looks fine now. I would be careful going naked with this phone.
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Cannot say I've been as fortunate. I have never dropped the phone and mistakenly placed it in the same pocket as my keys 2-3 times and there are MULTIPLE micro scratches that can be seen in the sun and even in normal lighting conditions.
Beautiful screen and phone however but I am quite disappointed.

Tell Me Your Experience NOT Using A Screen Protector

I've had my Z1C a little less than a month. I started using a screen protector immediately because of all the warnings I saw here. In the first case I used one of those thin plastic protectors; I didn't like the look or feel. I'm currently using a glass protector; better look and feel. BUT, I really would like to use the phone without any screen protector. I had a Samsung Galaxy S2 for 3-1/2 years that I used without a screen protector (or case). The screen had NO scratches on it when I donated it to charity (the case was a bit roughed up). If any of you have had the Z1C more than 3 months and DON'T use a screen protector, can you tell me how well the screen is holding up? Do you have regrets about NOT using a protector? What is your opinion of all the "must use a screen protector" warnings.
I really like this phone, except for the whole screen delicacy issue. Your opinions are valued. Thanks.
Until they start making Phones with 100% scratch proof/resistant glass then I'll never be without one, the first task before even switching a new Phone on is to apply the provided or pre purchased screen protector because each scratch on the screen directly or even the ASF lowers resale value imo.
I don't believe anyone can properly use a Phone for 3 years and not get a single scratch.
My I9001 (Galaxy S Plus) also didn't have any scratches without ever having used a case or protector. I'm just using one with the Z1C because it was twice as expensive, I don't really think I'd need one.
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I don't believe anyone can properly use a Phone for 3 years and not get a single scratch.
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Not sure what your definition of "properly" is, but I did use my Galaxy S2 for more than 3 years in both the jungles of Costa Rica and the urban jungles of the US, with nary a scratch. ? Never used a case or protector and always carried it in my front pants pocket. Made sure it was the only thing in that pocket. Am I unique? I doubt it. There must be at least one other soul out there with the same luck. ☺
Iruwen said:
My I9001 (Galaxy S Plus) also didn't have any scratches without ever having used a case or protector. I'm just using one with the Z1C because it was twice as expensive, I don't really think I'd need one.
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Glad to hear our Galaxy experiences were similar. And like you, with all the negative comments on screen scratches, I'm using a protector too. Just would prefer not to. In my case, I paid much more for the S2 than this new Z1. Still, I'd like to keep the screen as undamaged as possible. It's hard for me to believe screens have gotten softer, rather than harder. Might the issue be a bit exaggerated? That's why I'm looking for responses from users not using protection.
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Not sure what your definition of "properly" is, but I did use my Galaxy S2 for more than 3 years in both the jungles of Costa Rica and the urban jungles of the US, with nary a scratch.
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Hmm...
...(skip to 1:00) well that's interesting. I think the main problem with Sony is that the logo is baked into the ASF so if you remove it you remove the logo which I certainly don't want to do, but even then given the search results for gorilla glass scratched, I still wouldn't want to be without one.
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...well that's interesting. I think the main problem with Sony is that the logo is baked into the ASF so if you remove it you remove the logo which I certainly don't want to do, but even then given the search results for gorilla glass scratched, I still wouldn't want to be without one.
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So, it seems that the issue is not the softness of the glass, it's the softness of the ASF. So, once the ASF is damaged (a week, a month, a year, perhaps 3 years ) it can be removed and a glass protector or oleophobic coating liquid could be used to "refresh" the screen. So, what to do, what to do, hmmm? 1. Add a protector right away. 2. Remove the ASF once it gets damaged and add a protector. Or... 3. Remove the ASF once it gets damaged and use the coating liquid. None of these are really options I was looking for. So...again...anyone out there having good success with the Z1C's screen after 3 months of use who hasn't added any type of protection?
its like sex without a condom. much more fun without the protection, but you are afraid all the time
I've had mine for about 7 months and there has begun to appear small 'smudge-like' blemishes on the ASF. They're practically unnoticeable in daily use, partly because they're so small and 'light', but mostly because they're covered up by all the fingerprints. This is how I came to this thread, I noticed the fingerprints and thought perhaps I should test a scratch-protector, decided to wipe the phone to show off my 'protector-free spotless screen', but lo and behold, there are (albeit very slight) imperfections below the smudges!
While considering the period of use (7 months, not long, but not short either), these 'scratches' are hardly noteworthy, but I could definitively image it becoming a "problem" after 2-3 years, though it certainly depends on the care of which you handle the phone. I too keep my phone alone in the pocket as I'm sure keys would make quick work of the seemingly malleable ASF. I've twice during this period dropped the phone behind the bed, but never any significant (read: pavement) or high-height drops. But if you want your phone to stay mint then I'd probably have to recommend a scratch-protector. Perhaps even wiping the phone with certain kind of fabrics create these slight blemishes as well, or at least worsens prior scuff-marks.
But I'm worried about your opinions on the screen-protectors since I too have always disliked them (from afar, I've never actually used them myself.) I used my phone without any sort of protection for the first 6.5 months, just recently I received a semi-thin (terrapin) case because I noticed how bad the plastic backside was getting scratched for some reason -- worst part is I like the terrapin, which I didn't think I would, so I wish I'd gotten around to it earlier. When compared to the plastic backside, the ASF is pure diamond.
Think I'll order some type of scratch-protector to see if I can live with it, but I'm also not too worried about making the screen unreadable by not using one.
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I've had mine for about 7 months and there has begun to appear small 'smudge-like' blemishes on the ASF......
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Thanks for your reply. As I've read the responses here, I've become convinced that a screen protector is probably generally needed. Sad . I currently have the Skinomi Techskin Carbon Fiber applique on the back. It looks good. I tried the Skinomi screen protector, but disliked the look and feel. I'm now using the Brando Tempered Glass Rounded Edition. It looks great and feels right to the touch. Other than 2 tiny flaws (one in the glass and one caused by my not getting all the dust off), it's nearly perfect. (And Brando's customer service is second to none!) So...I guess I'm going to use the protection, as much as I think it is a serious flaw on Sony's part. Not sure what their rationale was in using ASF. I expect more from them.
That being said, I love this phone.
Agree and I appreciate the suggestions/recommendations.
I was hesitant to upload a photo of my phone because everything looks way worse than it really is.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6xEhyXR0UeEN2JZZll3OERQQ28/edit
95% of what you see in the picture is invisible in real life. So it's not as bad as it might seem, and a lot of it is probably just grease/dust rather than physical marks, but a lot of it is real (regardless if you can see it with your eyes or not) and is bound to accumulate further over time. The bottom left scuff is real but it does not look anything as bad as it does in that picture -- might have come about while phone was sliding around under my bed or something, though it looks more like 'pocket-wear' rather than a 1-time-accident. Perhaps most of if could have been avoided by having a raised-edge case.
Tograd said:
Agree and I appreciate the suggestions/recommendations.
I was hesitant to upload a photo of my phone because everything looks way worse than it really is.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6xEhyXR0UeEN2JZZll3OERQQ28/edit
95% of what you see in the picture is invisible in real life. So it's not as bad as it might seem, and a lot of it is probably just grease/dust rather than physical marks, but a lot of it is real (regardless if you can see it with your eyes or not) and is bound to accumulate further over time. The bottom left scuff is real but it does not look anything as bad as it does in that picture -- might have come about while phone was sliding around under my bed or something, though it looks more like 'pocket-wear' rather than a 1-time-accident. Perhaps most of if could have been avoided by having a raised-edge case.
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Thanks for the picture.
I used my phone for 4 days without screen protection. The accumulation of finger prints was extreme. But even more extreme was the way the phone acted as a dust magnet. Again, I'm assuming the ASF was the issue. The screen protection eliminated most of the dust issue and a good deal of the finger print intensity. And, of course, the back protection eliminated all of the dust and finger print issues.
So... I guess I'm beating a dead horse. ? This phone requires protection.
My experience is really bad... I got scrathes 2 hours after i got my phone (both on the back and on the front)... I applied a protector on the back. But i found a site that sells original Sony ASF (it has the Sony logo printed on it). So I decided that once this one looks too bad I'll replace it.
I can search for the link if you want me to.
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I guess you missed the "NOT".
I'm using the Z1c since release and got a new one in June (warranty). I never used a protector on any of my phones. The first Z1c I had got many small scratsches (not visible when the screen was on) - but still had many scratches. Since the new one I'm really careful and that helps a lot: not visible scratch since June:
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I guess you missed the "NOT".
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Who? Me?
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My New Z3 experience

Just got mine from Sony Store.. and yeah it's not perfect, at first it annoyed me like hell, because as you notice, there are some gaps and faults due to poor build quality. But everything is not perfect, and those gaps are just minor. Luckily the phone has no problem so far, but I still worry, will there be anything to concern in the future? like after using the phone for a few weeks, the camera will become worse or anything like that? pls share your experience, guys
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Just got mine from Sony Store.. and yeah it's not perfect, at first it annoyed me like hell, because as you notice, there are some gaps and faults due to poor build quality. But everything is not perfect, and those gaps are just minor. Luckily the phone has no problem so far, but I still worry, will there be anything to concern in the future? like after using the phone for a few weeks, the camera will become worse or anything like that? pls share your experience, guys
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What am I looking at? What's the problem? Are you asking if your phone is going to fail at some point in the future. Almost certainly, just like it is the destiny of the human race - of every race and species - to become extinct. And at some point after that, the sun will expand and burn up all that ever was (except the voyager craft, which will escape intact, and I just regret now that the gold record they stuck on it in the 1970's couldn't have included Rick Astley because the idea of rickrolling some alien civilisation 20 million years from now arouses me). Until then, I'd try not to let it worry you.
Nice post, sorry for making you confused.... because most people have faced bunch of problems on this phone, so I was just worried...
Nothing to worry about that I can see. Have had mine for two months and it looks just like yours, no issues.
Nice, you got one with even gaps so that's good. Just make sure you get a case or protector for the back, I love the phone but the back glass is pretty soft I have some minor scratches near the bottom edge despite being careful.
Thanks all!!! I will try to find a case and screen protector
abhinav.tella said:
Nice, you got one with even gaps so that's good. Just make sure you get a case or protector for the back, I love the phone but the back glass is pretty soft I have some minor scratches near the bottom edge despite being careful.
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What do you mean by "gaps" and "good"? 0.O
On many phones the screen is uncentered so there is almost no gap between LCD and frame on one side and a big gap on the other, yours is good. Mine is like yours. For those who have it, its just a cosmetic thing.
Looking at the contents sticker showing no earphones I am guessing you got it from TMO?
abhinav.tella said:
On many phones the screen is uncentered so there is almost no gap between LCD and frame on one side and a big gap on the other, yours is good. Mine is like yours. For those who have it, its just a cosmetic thing.
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Cool, thank you so much
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Looking at the contents sticker showing no earphones I am guessing you got it from TMO?
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Nah nah I got it on Sony Store. Mine is D6603 LTE.
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Just got mine from Sony Store.. and yeah it's not perfect, at first it annoyed me like hell, because as you notice, there are some gaps and faults due to poor build quality. But everything is not perfect, and those gaps are just minor. Luckily the phone has no problem so far, but I still worry, will there be anything to concern in the future? like after using the phone for a few weeks, the camera will become worse or anything like that? pls share your experience, guys
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Hi can you write here the week of production of your unit? I'm trying to collect more infos I can, and then share them on an Italian android forum
abhinav.tella said:
Nice, you got one with even gaps so that's good. Just make sure you get a case or protector for the back, I love the phone but the back glass is pretty soft I have some minor scratches near the bottom edge despite being careful.
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Can you put here some photos like bluesky? or if you like send them on pm... just for curiosity, next month I'll buy a new z3 again, I hope in a unit without the issues we know very well...
My current one is a week 39. I will post pictures here tonight or tomorrow.
I have gone through 3, because T-Mobile got a bad batch:
1. had evenly set/centered screen but light bleed
2. had uncentered screen and back glass so big gap on one side
3. had uncentered screen and back glass so big gap on one side and purple camera on sided of pics, and light bleed all along one side. (Week 40)
4. Current phone, everything is perfect (Week 39)
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Looking at the contents sticker showing no earphones I am guessing you got it from TMO?
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No, tmo has a different bix
My first one was bought on amazon 6603 and it came eith seals open already which made me uncomfortable but the phone worked flawless but one of the nylon corners protruded out just the slightest not even 1mm off but it bothered me so i returned it it was production week 41 so i bought one on sony store and am happy to report not a single flaw , my new one is productiob week 44
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My first one was bought on amazon 6603 and it came eith seals open already which made me uncomfortable but the phone worked flawless but one of the nylon corners protruded out just the slightest not even 1mm off but it bothered me so i returned it it was production week 41 so i bought one on sony store and am happy to report not a single flaw , my new one is production week 44
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Yeah that happened to my third one the, nylon cap on one side was literally cutting me because it was protruding out a little.
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Yeah that happened to my third one the, nylon cap on one side was literally cutting me because it was protruding out a little.
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Yes it happened to me as well. I was too lazy to take a shot of that corner. It was bulged out a little bit, but only if you look very closely. One thing I'm afraid is that will those gaps on the edge (or the ugly corner we have) let water get in?
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Yes it happened to me as well. I was too lazy to take a shot of that corner. It was bulged out a little bit, but only if you look very closely. One thing I'm afraid is that will those gaps on the edge (or the ugly corner we have) let water get in?
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There is glue under the glass and the frame actually extends inwards a bit. Don't worry about gaps unless you see a lot of light coming through between the frame.
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There is glue under the glass and the frame actually extends inwards a bit. Don't worry about gaps unless you see a lot of light coming through between the frame.
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Thank you, that helped a lot. Actually I have tried "washing" it twice, but only 30s or less, so not sure if it's defective.
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Thank you, that helped a lot. Actually I have tried "washing" it twice, but only 30s or less, so not sure if it's defective.
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i wanna wash my phone so bad but I'm so hesitant lol

Mr. Shield Glass Halo Effect :(

I thought this would give me the halo effect and I was right. Pretty big one too.
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Hey at least they give you three screen protectors in the box!
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I thought this would give me the halo effect and I was right. Pretty big one too.
Hey at least they give you three screen protectors in the box!
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Mine is the same. I ordered some matte screen protectors till a good glass one is released.
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I thought this would give me the halo effect and I was right. Pretty big one too. View attachment 4260747
Hey at least they give you three screen protectors in the box!
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Already initiated a refund and ship back on mine.
I have the same thing on my MP-Mall tempered glass. Use mineral oil and it removes all the halo cleanly! My tempered glass now looks like it is part of the phone. It looks very clean with 0 halo after 2 days of use.
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I have the same thing on my MP-Mall tempered glass. Use mineral oil and it removes all the halo cleanly! My tempered glass now looks like it is part of the phone. It looks very clean with 0 halo after 2 days of use.
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Can you explain this further? Do you use mineral oil on the display as a bonding agent?
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I have the same thing on my MP-Mall tempered glass. Use mineral oil and it removes all the halo cleanly! My tempered glass now looks like it is part of the phone. It looks very clean with 0 halo after 2 days of use.
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Why do people call it halo?
It's that the screen protector doesn't curve and the screen does. It creates a gap.
Mineral oil doesn't bond it, it just fills the gap.
hmmm I may do this..so just squeeze mineral oil underneath the gaps?
All that does is hide the gap but the collection of dust and garbage in that edge is going to make it gross as heck in short order.
I am not sure what I am going to do with mine.. The halo sucks noodles, but what other options are there except going plastic? Those Liquid ones I feel are a complete scam, and no other glass screen protectors are going to be any different unless one of them actually makes a custom one with its own pre-bend to them.
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Why do people call it halo?
It's that the screen protector doesn't curve and the screen does. It creates a gap.
Mineral oil doesn't bond it, it just fills the gap.
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Yes, it just fills the gap. If the "lift" is too large, the mineral oil will not help much. If that's the case, use 75% Elmers glue + 25% water.
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Yes, it just fills the gap. If the "lift" is too large, the mineral oil will not help much. If that's the case, use 75% Elmers glue + 25% water.
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What?!?! LOL
Step 1. Buy beautifully built $700 phone
Step 2. Put Mineral Oil on it to compensate for a poorly designed piece of crap glass "protector"
Step 3. Add Elmers Glue if not successful
I think you guys might be missing the point of the screen protector if your willing to put glue on it... Buy an insurance policy on it instead and enjoy your beautiful phone... Plus you all know your getting a new phone in like 10 or 11 months anyway, don't act like you'll have it for 3 yrs :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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What?!?! LOL
Step 1. Buy beautifully built $700 phone
Step 2. Put Mineral Oil on it to compensate for a poorly designed piece of crap glass "protector"
Step 3. Add Elmers Glue if not successful
I think you guys might be missing the point of the screen protector if your willing to put glue on it... Buy an insurance policy on it instead and enjoy your beautiful phone... Plus you all know your getting a new phone in like 10 or 11 months anyway, don't act like you'll have it for 3 yrs :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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I keep mine for 2 years. The goal is to keep it perfect so I can sell it.
I sold my Two year old Nexus 6P last week for $425. Not bad. I use it for two years and the cost to me was $225
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I keep mine for 2 years. The goal is to keep it perfect so I can sell it.
I sold my Two year old Nexus 6P last week for $425. Not bad. I use it for two years and the cost to me was $225
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And did you apply elmers glue to it?
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And did you apply elmers glue to it?
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For???
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For???
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You saw I quoted "LastQuark" right? That's the entire point of my post bro
DROIDESP said:
What?!?! LOL
Step 1. Buy beautifully built $700 phone
Step 2. Put Mineral Oil on it to compensate for a poorly designed piece of crap glass "protector"
Step 3. Add Elmers Glue if not successful
I think you guys might be missing the point of the screen protector if your willing to put glue on it... Buy an insurance policy on it instead and enjoy your beautiful phone... Plus you all know your getting a new phone in like 10 or 11 months anyway, don't act like you'll have it for 3 yrs :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Just to clarify, I am referring to the White Elmer's glue and not the yellow carpenters glue. The Elmers glue is only to fill in the edge gaps and not for adhering the protector to the glass. This glue does easily comes off. It is a solution to having a glass tempered screen protection nicely applied to the LCD for added peace of mind without having to pay for insurance. I do not think the LCD glass scratches is protected by insurance, anyway.
Same here
I bought the 3 pack and I'm on #2. The first one not only had the halo effect, it also, chipped on all for corners and cracked on the bottom left. I bet if it actually fit the screen it wouldn't have done that. I'm not doing the refund route and it is working, just crappy.
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Just to clarify, I am referring to the White Elmer's glue and not the yellow carpenters glue. The Elmers glue is only to fill in the edge gaps and not for adhering the protector to the glass. This glue does easily comes off. It is a solution to having a glass tempered screen protection nicely applied to the LCD for added peace of mind without having to pay for insurance. I do not think the LCD glass scratches is protected by insurance, anyway.
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This does not make it better... I get what you are saying, I just don't think putting elmers glue on a sexy new phone is a good idea. :angel:
Just don't scratch it or drop it until good options are produced? I don't know I keep my stuff really nice, always.
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This does not make it better... I get what you are saying, I just don't think putting elmers glue on a sexy new phone is a good idea. :angel:
Just don't scratch it or drop it until good options are produced? I don't know I keep my stuff really nice, always.
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I'm sending mine back as of today.
Waiting for the return box.
LastQuark said:
I have the same thing on my MP-Mall tempered glass. Use mineral oil and it removes all the halo cleanly! My tempered glass now looks like it is part of the phone. It looks very clean with 0 halo after 2 days of use.
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could you give an update on how the mineral oil is holding up?
did dust accumulate under the edges?
and did you use elmers glue? did it actually work
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could you give an update on how the mineral oil is holding up?
did dust accumulate under the edges?
and did you use elmers glue? did it actually work
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I used oil and it is great.. no dust or anything.

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