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To all new Captivate owners...

Buy a case!
I was showing off how well my phone took Asphalt 5 and as I was unlocking the phone and about to slide to my second page of apps to show my friends a video I recorded, the super-slim Captivate slid out of my hands and onto the ground! I'm not a short guy at all so it fell about five feet onto bare concrete on its corner, bounced, and fell again on its side before landing face down.
So now I have beautiful cracks running through the glass on my Captivate. The touch sensing layer seems to be undamaged as is the display (and the rest of the phone? there were no scratches or dents anywhere except the screen..) which STILL managed to stay fingerprint and scratch free. Just too bad it didn't handle a drop too well.
I realize this is an extreme scenario but if you find your self fumbling with your phone because it's so thin (the last phone I had was a HTC Tilt2) you should really consider buying a case!
Thankfully I had insurance from AT&T and I got it from Costco so I have a 90-day exchange policy. I think i'll take the latter since it's free.
The moral of the story is that the Gorilla glass on the Captivate CAN be broken, so get a case if you're not confident about being able to keep the Captivate from hitting the ground!
Keep your phone safe!
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I got one of those body glovea from the at&t store the day I got it. Never regretted it.
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Invisible Shield for me. Adds no bulk, gives it grip, military grade with lifetime warranty. Im lovin it.
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shinji257 said:
I got one of those body glovea from the at&t store the day I got it. Never regretted it.
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Be careful. I understand that the body glove cases can cause superficial scratches to the exterior of the phone too.

Got a $3 black silicone case from Amazon. I love it.
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Ebay has some that ship straight from Hong Kong that are molded perfectly for the phone and they throw in a screen protector also. I have a black silicon one but they sell all colors and it's a nice case. I may get one more for a spare but I think one will last pretty long. It even covers the side buttons but is molded to have them stand out from the case.

I second the recommendation for the Body Glove case. Bought mine online for $18. It's grippy, doesn't become sticky, keeps it shape, and allows me to easily remove it to change the battery when needed. After getting this case, I learned the Galaxy S face is made of Gorilla Glass. Upon seeing the wacky Korean video showing the level of abuse it can take, I pulled off the BodyGuardz film.

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Upon seeing the wacky Korean video showing the level of abuse it can take, I pulled off the BodyGuardz film.
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That made me want to cry

shinji257 said:
I got one of those body glovea from the at&t store the day I got it. Never regretted it.
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Bought one of these too, like the second day I had it. Also bought some screen protectors.
As far as the BG case causing scratches, There are some minor spots on the darker gray parts (like the one you slide to open the back) where it looks like the case has rubbed a bit onto it. Not that big of a deal for me. I'd rather have some minor scuffs on a part of the phone AI never see than some scratches/cracks on parts I always do.

I don't normally use cases as I bought the phone partly because it is slim and slides into the pocket without a lumpy feel. I carry keys a penknife and coins in my pockets as well so I cannot worry about body scratches. My phones are not "pretty" after a year. LOL But this guy is slippery and i have already dropped it a couple times with no ill effect. So I have decided to skin only the battery cover for a better grip.
I do use good screen protectors though (and a small over over the camera lens) to prevent scratches there.

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Invisible Shield for me. Adds no bulk, gives it grip, military grade with lifetime warranty. Im lovin it.
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I tried the Invisible Shield and BSE on mine, AT&T's screen protector on my wife's. Comparing both side by side mine had a yellow tint and looked ugly when looking at the same things on both screens. Distored somewhat by the orange peel look. I kept the body skin and put the AT&T screen protector on mine along with the body glove. Body glove fits great. Plus I found my finger sliding easier for swipe with the screen protector and not BSE or IS. Messed me up plenty.

I got one of those cases thats like the material between hard plastic and the soft silicone. I think its called a TPU skin case. Its awesome stuff. Got an all black one off ebay for $7 total and people cant even tell i have a case on the phone.
I know its good for drops too cause my friend dropped his htc incredible onto the ground with one of these cases on, the phone bounced a few times ended up on the screen, basically same thing that happened as OP, and it did NOTHING to the phone. He had a cheap $1 ebay screen protector on too. His phone is perfectly fine not even a scratch.
Highly recommend these cases over hard cases and silicone.

Good thing you have the insurance policy..other wise it would have been a expensive lesson for you. I didn't like any of the cases AT&T had when we got ours..so at my youngest sons urgings we headed over to Best Buy to find him (and us) a case. He had the Seido case for his i-pod and that thing is as rugged as a Timex watch. His Ipod was in good shape..but that case looks like it went through hell and back.He got one for his new 1-4 phone and the wife and myself got the one for the Captivate..I love how it protects but without all the bulk. It's not as well protected as in an Otter Box defender I had on my Hero..but I plan on being much more careful with this phone..
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I had an AWFUL experience just the other day. I was walking to the kitchen with a glass of water and my phone in my hand and somehow I dropped the glass of water. I thought it was my phone so I went to fumble for it, just making a bigger mess and my phone got drenched. Bounced a couple times on the floor landed screen side up. I grabbed it so fast and stuck it in my shirt to dry, ripped the battery door off and dried it as fast as I could to make sure the litmus paper inside and battery didn't get wet. I'm definitely getting a good case now, and maybe I'll just vacuum seal my phone too for extra protection

I had an AWFUL experience just the other day.
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That's SOOOO funny, because it sounds exactly like something I would do.

I was so used to putting my old phone in my flannel pocket.. with this phone if I do that it'll squirt out faster than a greased pig.
Def need to get a case for this thing.

I got a Zagg screen protector at bestbuy and they put it on using a squeegie. You can barely tell it's there
For a case (at least for the first few months) I got a slide on hard shell. It has a cell phone holster which I got rid of and then it's not that much more bulky. It seems much more sturdy with it. I did the same thing with my iPhone 3g. It didn't add a ton of extra bulk and in the case of my iPhone it made it last until I was ready for my upgrade (to this sweet machine).
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Platinu...121&skuId=1222771&st=captivate case&cp=1&lp=2
I recommend a hard shell

Gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not crack resistant, there's big difference you know...

shishir95 said:
Buy a case!
I was showing off how well my phone took Asphalt 5 and as I was unlocking the phone and about to slide to my second page of apps to show my friends a video I recorded, the super-slim Captivate slid out of my hands and onto the ground! I'm not a short guy at all so it fell about five feet onto bare concrete on its corner, bounced, and fell again on its side before landing face down.
So now I have beautiful cracks running through the glass on my Captivate...
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Guess this phone doesn't take asphalt too well after all. In all seriousness though, I dropped mine face down from shoulder height (I'm over 6' ) onto a sidewalk about 2 weeks after I got it (don't drink and text), and with the body glove case and the at&t screen protectors it turned out none the worse for wear (the screen protector was trashed though, grit embedded in it). I haven't noticed any scratching of my phone from the case, either. Highly recommend it.
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iamjester said:
Guess this phone doesn't take asphalt too well after all. In all seriousness though, I dropped mine face down from shoulder height (I'm over 6' ) onto a sidewalk about 2 weeks after I got it (don't drink and text), and with the body glove case and the at&t screen protectors it turned out none the worse for wear (the screen protector was trashed though, grit embedded in it). I haven't noticed any scratching of my phone from the case, either. Highly recommend it.
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But I had the same thing happen on my iTouch. Dropped it in the street (with a case!) and the only damage was to the screen protector. Which I promptly took off and replaced when I got home.

How to apply a screen protector with no bubbles and cover the whole screen.

First of all I used the official screen protector from HTC and it can be found here ----> Official HTC screen protectors <----
The way I do a screen protector:
I do all my screen protectors in the bathroom (there's less dust in there cause it gets wet from steam in there from showers). Take your sensation and set it on something soft so it doesn't get scratched (don't use toilet paper as it has lots of small particles that come off of it).
Tip: Lay the protector over the screen before you start the process to see if there's overhang. If there's overhang, just even it so it's all the same around the whole screen. This will help you from having to much overhang after (cause you knew beforehand to even it out).
Get a small card (most screen protectors come with them, htc one doesn't). You can even use a mini credit card like the ones from bank of america. Whatever you use, use something with nice rounded edges.
Get a microfiber cloth and get it damp, not soaked, just damp ( I usually wash the cloth with soap and water then wring it out real good).
Now, open you screen protectors so you have one of them out and ready (don't peel it yet, just have it out). Take the microfiber and wipe the screen while it's laying flat, I normally go one way with it (like wipe it down). Keep doing this until there's no dust. Sometimes you can switch sides of the cloth so it's a fresh side. Eventually all the dust will be gone from the screen.
Take your small round card and the microfiber cloth and wrap the card with the cloth so the part that will rub the protector will be soft (it won't scratch it).
Now, take the screen protector and barely peel back the top (whole top, but not the whole protector). Now, position your top along the whole top of the phone and peel it down from underneath while you apply it the rest of the way. I take the card wrapped in microfiber and smooth it downwards while peeling the film with the other hand (tricky to do if you don't understand what I mean). This is the best way to avoid bubbles.
You're gonna have some small bubbles but if you have enough practice and experience (like me), you wont have any except the curved edges.
After the Procter is on,
Slowly squeegee the air bubbles on the flat part of the screen to the nearest edge with the card wrapped in microfiber. They will all come out, it just takes time. After the flat part of the screen has no more bubbles, work on the curved edges. The edges will take time, just do them slowly and kinda wrap the corner as you work out the bubbles. Do one corner at a time. Always push the bubbles out towards the edge, never go back and forth with the card.
After you have wrapped the corners and all the bubbles are out, they won't come back. They should be gone for good if you did it right and yours will look like mine.
Pro tip: If you do get dust, you can take the protector off and wash it very gently with liquid soap and water. Just rinse it off and shake the water off. It's ok to apply the protector a little bit wet (not soaked). The microfiber and card will absorb the little bit of water pushed out at the edges. If there's small residue after, don't worry, it goes away after a few days most of the time.
I hope this helps somebody as it's the best way I've found to do them. I've been doing screen protectors for years and think I have pretty much mastered it. I never get bubbles or dust anymore.
P.S. This process takes about 20 minutes, so don;t try to rush. You'll be happy you took the extra time and did it the right way after you're done using my method.
Good luck guys.
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sounds like a nice how-to. Except, I don't see why anyone would put a screen protector on Gorilla Glas

The only thing that messes me up is the curved edge.
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Kupfel said:
sounds like a nice how-to. Except, I don't see why anyone would put a screen protector on Gorilla Glas
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For an extra feel of relief and gorilla glass still gets hairline scratches.
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The only thing that messes me up is the curved edge.
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Take your time and use the screen protectors from HTC.

I might try this if my Skinomi screen protector ends up being a waste of life.

Kupfel said:
sounds like a nice how-to. Except, I don't see why anyone would put a screen protector on Gorilla Glas
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Because Gorilla Glass gets F'd up also. My gravel driveway proved this to me on my last Gorilla Glass device.
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I also do my screen protectors in the bathroom like the OP. Both for the dust and for availability to water. I've washed them after getting annoying dust particles stuck on previous attempts. Works well.

I have bought the original htc screen protectors and it never sticks at the bevel edges.. I have tried both by heating up with hair dryer and without but it doesnt help
please advise guys... I want to protect it again scratches..
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scotcruz said:
I have bought the original htc screen protectors and it never sticks at the bevel edges.. I have tried both by heating up with hair dryer and without but it doesnt help
please advise guys... I want to protect it again scratches..
cheers
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Soak it in hot water for a couple of minutes. It's what I did with the HTC protectors. I use PhantomSkinz now.

I hate cases and really didn't think I needed a screen protector but I was wrong. My screen has several small scratches. First one resulted from me leaving the phone on the bed when I went to sleep, I don't know how, but it got scratched. At first I thought it was a hair stuck behind the sglass, but later I saw that it was a scratch. Scond one resulted in me carrying it in the pocket, my keys scratched it again.
So yeah, u still need screen protector with gorilla glass...

I used water to fit them and they are ok.

You guy do something wrong my desire never have one scratch and the gorilla glas thing here will never have one Protect your phone
I am using an simple bugatti bag for my phone and it never got scratched....
Most scratches come from your pocket while there are other things in it !

i also think that i dont need a screen protector, cause im using a soft bag for it. but nevertheless, i want to buy one, save is save, scratches are a big NOGO
i cant believe that the screen protector on the pictures is an original htc one. How is the feeling with it and how is the display now, how do you see the colours and sharpness?

Amazing.
Show u later mine.

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Soak it in hot water for a couple of minutes. It's what I did with the HTC protectors. I use PhantomSkinz now.
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Did yours stick properly over the edges on HTC Sensation??
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I use the zagg invisible shield, its cut to the perfect size of the entire screen, with cutouts over the sensor and front camera, and it comes with a spray bottle that you use to wet the shield with before applying so you can slide it around to the perfect position, and out has a lifetime warranty. I don't use anything else.
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Thanks, very useful... Just one question, does it no leave water damage with the spray
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Is there other brand that fits the screen from edge to edge?
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XtremeGuard > InvisibleShield screen protectors

I ordered this protector off Amazon at the same time I ordered my Otterbox Commuter case. Got it yesterday and applied it tonight. This protector is kind that is applied with a soapy water solution, similar to that of a full body skin like InvisibleShield. This protector was $2 on Amazon so I figured why not give it a shot. I have installed IS protectors before so I knew what I was getting myself in to and was up to the challenge.
First and foremost, the seller (Prestige Solutions) processed and shipped my order as fast as could be expected. Order was placed on the 24th, shipped on the 25th, I received it on the 27th. It arrived in a regular envelope and included the protector itself, a cleaning cloth and a squeegee as well as very clear and easy to follow instructions for application. It took all of 5 minutes to do the install, and only took that long because I had a couple problem spots along the edge of the screen that I had to give a little extra attention to in order to make sure it adhered properly. Installation goes something like this: Remove the battery. Get a bowl of water and add a couple drops of dish soap or baby shampoo to it. Clean the screen and then wet your fingers and with your wet fingers, peel the backing off the protector. Wet the back of the protector completely and place it on the screen. I just used my fingers to get the protector wet, making sure to moisten the whole back side and allowing the excess to drip off before setting on the phone. I then got my microfiber towel and while sliding the protector into place, absorbed any excess water that got near the speaker or began to ooze out from under the protector. Once in place I used the squeegee and started "brushing" it over the protector to get as much of the water and bubbles out as possible, dabbing the phone with the microfiber to absorb the excess. Once I got as much of the moisture out as possible, and once the protector felt it was sticking nicely, I used the micofiber one last time to make sure the edges were stuck down firmly and cleaned the protector as well.
The key is using just enough water, it sounds hard and maybe dangerous, but it's very easy and as long as you don't get carried away with the water you should be fine. It will take a few days for the protector to fully cure and the remaining moisture to evaporate so don't fret if you notice some under there the next day. Once it's completely cured and dried you shouldn't even be able to tell it's there, aside from the slight edges you can see around the ear speaker and camera. This protector is cut very precisely and fits like a glove. It's pretty thin and has a rubbery kind of feel to it once wet. Compared to the Gorilla Glass, it doesn't feel quite as slick, but then again I've only had it on for 3hrs now and haven't gotten a real feel for it yet since i'm just letting it cure. Speaking of which, it says you should leave the battery out for 24hrs as a safety precaution to allow any water to dry up, although generally 8hrs is plenty. It also states that it will take 1-2 days for any haziness and bubbles to go away. Having done this before, I assure you that's exactly what happens and once fully cured it looks lovely.
I will post an update in the second post here in a couple days with my review of the look and feel of it.
http://www.xtremeguard.com/Motorola-Atrix-2-II-Screen-Protectors-p/atrix_2_ii_screen_protector.htm
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Well, the protector is fully cured so here's my take.
The main thing, it did not negatively effect the quality of the display, you cant even tell its there aside from the slight edge around the camera. But other than that its invisible. It is perfectly cut, is very thin and even when u tilt the screen at an angle to catch the reflection you dont see any texture at all, its like nothing is there. Its optically clear and allows the display to shine. The only thing I dont like about it is that it does not shed fingerprints effortlessly like the bare screen does. But I like that it also makes the screen more grippy. The glass was very slick, almost too slick for my liking, its not slick anymore but allows ur fingers to glide across it but without letting them get away from you. I actually enjoy typing much more on it now as my thumbs arent sliding on to neighboring letters anymore, improving my accuracy tremendously. Aside from the fingerprint issue, I love this protector and highly suggest it to anyone looking for one. Its the best $2 you're gonna spend on ur phone!
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I was able to compare this $2 screen protector to the much more popular and widely available InvisibleShield screen protector, which is virtually the same thing, a wet applied protector. I'll let the pictures speak for themselves.....Keep in mind the InvisibleShield protector is about $20 in stores.
My phone, in Otterbox Commuter w/XtremeGuard screen protector
Random phone w/InvisibleShield screen protector
I have two friends at work, both with Samsung Galaxy S phones, one has the SGSII, and both of them have the InvisibleShield protector installed and they look even worse than the one pictured above....it looks like an orange peel on steroids, I kid you not. After seeing my protector, they both want XtremeGuards now! Which would you prefer?

good review! just out of curiosity, why did you get a screen protector for your phone if we have gorilla glass? i am trying to figure out if i want one or not.
also is your screen smooth like glass or is it kind of sticky? i ask because i don't like dragging my finger on the screen and the screen protector kind of makes it tacky. from what i remember, the invisible shield does that.

Gorilla glass still scratches.I know for a fact since I have a 1cm scratch I acquired before ordering the xtreme guard.
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kindacrazyazn said:
good review! just out of curiosity, why did you get a screen protector for your phone if we have gorilla glass? i am trying to figure out if i want one or not.
also is your screen smooth like glass or is it kind of sticky? i ask because i don't like dragging my finger on the screen and the screen protector kind of makes it tacky. from what i remember, the invisible shield does that.
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Thanks. Because GG can be scratched.
But I like that it also makes the screen more grippy. The glass was very slick, almost too slick for my liking, its not slick anymore but allows ur fingers to glide across it but without letting them get away from you. I actually enjoy typing much more on it now as my thumbs arent sliding on to neighboring letters anymore, improving my accuracy tremendously.
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Thanks. Because GG can be scratched.
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Got it, sorry i guess i missed that part when reading it. i guess i will be ordering mine now! haha

kindacrazyazn said:
Got it, sorry i guess i missed that part when reading it. i guess i will be ordering mine now! haha
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No worries. You'll be happy with it, just don't use too much soap and follow the direction to the T. I have no bubbles, no dust, no streaks and best of all, no orange peel!

I just ordered it and hopefully it comes just as quickly as yours did. I didn't get an otterbox though. I got the tpu one just because I like the feeling alittle better. I will try to post result asap.
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kindacrazyazn said:
I just ordered it and hopefully it comes just as quickly as yours did. I didn't get an otterbox though. I got the tpu one just because I like the feeling alittle better. I will try to post result asap.
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If you bought it from the same seller, bank on it! They did not mess around, it actually came earlier than expected. Alot of people swear by the TPU cases, I may just get one to see what it's all about.

I personally like them. I had on for my last phone and it did a good job. It isn't an extremely snug fit but it wrapped around the phone just right so it didn't need to be snug.
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Just a question, please :
Is this screen protector hard or soft ?
I did use a complete Invisible Skin on my HD, but I removed the screen part, as it made it rubbery, so the stylus was sinking inside the material, and the fingers disn't slip well (it was really rubbery, then )
Plus it rendered like orange skin, just like your second picture, so the readability was decreased.
I was glad with the all the other parts (complete protection) however, as the rubbery aspect was desirable there : it added increased anti-slip effect, plus it's a very good protection - it made the HD almost as bumpy as a rubber ball.
But you have to know that it did't last much more than two years.
The material became yellowish, then became very fragile and tore apart even under slight nail pressure.
Finally, the material unstuck itself, leaving the glue-like part on the phone !
Of course, it's important to know we have a temperate to hot tropical climate here (never cold, then), and most glue or synthetic material don't last very long (for instance, all fabric fall off from car's roofs after a few years, because the glue and/or the foam lining underneath can't stand the temperature for too long).

also, i was wondering, did they give you a tracking number? i ordered if from the same person but i checked on amazon and there is no tracking number or anything. it just says it has been shipped.

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Just a question, is this screen protector hard or soft ?
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Not sure how to answer this.....but it's only $2 bro, but one and try it for yourself.
kindacrazyazn said:
also, i was wondering, did they give you a tracking number? i ordered if from the same person but i checked on amazon and there is no tracking number or anything. it just says it has been shipped.
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No, didn't get a tracking # cause it just came first class mail.

Can you make a video of you installing it and post it on YouTube? I just got my atrix 2 and ordered the screen protector. Butt guess what I bought the screen protector and a cover as a combo but for the first atrix! I was so excited that I didn't even notice it. At least the car charger still works. Oh well ill have to order the correct item again. When the items arrived I was mas cause thought they messed up, I later looked at my order and realized I was the one mistaken.
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TheChemist187 said:
Can you make a video of you installing it and post it on YouTube? I just got my atrix 2 and ordered the screen protector. Butt guess what I bought the screen protector and a cover as a combo but for the first atrix! I was so excited that I didn't even notice it. At least the car charger still works. Oh well ill have to order the correct item again. When the items arrived I was mas cause thought they messed up, I later looked at my order and realized I was the one mistaken.
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So you're asking me to peel mine off and reinstall it, on video?!

Wow I still haven't received mine yet. I have until the 16th though but I wish I had it now because I want to install multiple screen protectors at once.
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kindacrazyazn said:
Wow I still haven't received mine yet. I have until the 16th though but I wish I had it now because I want to install multiple screen protectors at once.
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Wow, mine arrived very fast. Why are you gonna install multiple protectors? Plan on doing a video to show how to do it and the end results of each?

i might but i don't have a camera mount to record it with and i have an itouch that i have a screen protector for and i haven't installed it because i was waiting for the other one on it to need replacing (which it does now). and the other one is an invisible shield too. i can post result pics though.

kindacrazyazn said:
i might but i don't have a camera mount to record it with and i have an itouch that i have a screen protector for and i haven't installed it because i was waiting for the other one on it to need replacing (which it does now). and the other one is an invisible shield too. i can post result pics though.
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Oh ok, just wondering. Somebody asked me to take mine off and make a video of the installation so I was just wondering what you were up to and if you'd be able to handle that. But no worries. I personally don't think a video of how to install it is necessary but sometimes people just need to visual to get them to do it, or not.

Ya I agree with you. The directions are pretty self explanatory for installing any screen protector. Just don't get soapy water all of the place.
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just got my protector in the mail.

Possible to repair camera lens?

Doesn't look like I've scratched it. Looks like I've ruined whatever coating that originally came on it. Wondering if it's something that can be fixed. I can still take pictures, but they come out a bit soft.

I looked around online and found this to be a somewhat common issue. I followed the instructions in an article I read to use a drop of water and credit card to remove the film/coating. This worked great for me and my pictures stew now crystal clear

mlin said:
I looked around online and found this to be a somewhat common issue. I followed the instructions in an article I read to use a drop of water and credit card to remove the film/coating. This worked great for me and my pictures stew now crystal clear
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I'll looking into doing that. I just hope the glass underneath that coating isn't as easily scratched. I haven't had this issue with any of my previous HTC devices.

replica9000 said:
I'll looking into doing that. I just hope the glass underneath that coating isn't as easily scratched. I haven't had this issue with any of my previous HTC devices.
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It's a wide known issue that a bunch of people have tried. I myself did it with alcohol a qtip to get the coating off and microfiber cloth to wipe. Takes time but it works.

The Stig 04 said:
It's a wide known issue that a bunch of people have tried. I myself did it with alcohol a qtip to get the coating off and microfiber cloth to wipe. Takes time but it works.
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I actually did this with a qtip and toothpaste. Cleared the foggy pictures right up!

Qtip and toothpaste is what I did and it worked great!

Thanks for the info. I did do a little bit of the lens with a credit card earlier. Did seem to make a good improvement. I'll try the q-tip thing next to finish it.

After you get it clean, get the lens protectors from SlickWraps or make your own.
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RikRong said:
After you get it clean, get the lens protectors from SlickWraps or make your own.
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They distort pictures, if you ever use flash they will make a ghosting effect on the pictures, but it shouldn't affect daytime shots as much as night shots.
I wouldn't use anything, I scratched my coating off a couple months ago and don't have any other scratches yet. I have the phone in my pocket all the time.
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BadUsername said:
They distort pictures, if you ever use flash they will make a ghosting effect on the pictures, but it shouldn't affect daytime shots as much as night shots.
I wouldn't use anything, I scratched my coating off a couple months ago and don't have any other scratches yet. I have the phone in my pocket all the time.
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I've never had any issues with them.
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If I remember correctly, it isn't a protective coating, it's an anti-reflective coating. Could serve dual purpose but not positive

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I've never had any issues with them.
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Well I have.
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I put that slickwrap thing on perfectly and never touched the underside during application. They definitely distort photos just as any kind of protector or film would do on any lens. The first one is actually with only the smaller lens covered, but you can clearly see if the light reflects it at the correct angle it'll definitely mess up the picture.
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darienms1986 said:
If I remember correctly, it isn't a protective coating, it's an anti-reflective coating. Could serve dual purpose but not positive
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I've been reading a couple threads on this, and apparently that coating is supposed to be a UV coating. Also seems the lens in only plastic.

The lens is glass. The coating scratches. You can just alcohol or toothpaste apparently to remove it. I tried toothpaste and a q-tip myself and managed to clean up the center enough to get me clear photos again.

What makes me mad is I've had this thing in a case almost since day one and the few times I've used a cloth or q-tip to clean the lens.. it seems scratched to hell and back... I only just noticed it.. and I'm beside myself.. My images are fuzzy and seem a strange tint ... almost a yellowish tone when taking a picture of something white.. I've used alcohol.. no go.. am I left with a phone now? LoL.. Sucks this happened because I take very good care of my phones.. my DNA just has 1 scratch on its lens and has never been in a case..

jbarcus81 said:
What makes me mad is I've had this thing in a case almost since day one and the few times I've used a cloth or q-tip to clean the lens.. it seems scratched to hell and back... I only just noticed it.. and I'm beside myself.. My images are fuzzy and seem a strange tint ... almost a yellowish tone when taking a picture of something white.. I've used alcohol.. no go.. am I left with a phone now? LoL.. Sucks this happened because I take very good care of my phones.. my DNA just has 1 scratch on its lens and has never been in a case..
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magic eraser or toothpaste with a qtip will work very easily, I kept mine in a case since day 1 also.
Don't sweat too much about it, it's only a film layer. Mine looks brand new and I repaired it about 3 months ago. It's a manufacturing defect, no rhyme or reason for it. My sister doesn't use a case and hers still has no scratches, mine was scratched to hell within 2 months and mine was in a good case.
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BadUsername said:
magic eraser or toothpaste with a qtip will work very easily, I kept mine in a case since day 1 also.
Don't sweat too much about it, it's only a film layer. Mine looks brand new and I repaired it about 3 months ago. It's a manufacturing defect, no rhyme or reason for it. My sister doesn't use a case and hers still has no scratches, mine was scratched to hell within 2 months and mine was in a good case.
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I hope so.. I'll give it a shot.. I just couldn't figure out how this one got so messed up when my old HTC DNA still has the SINGLE scratch on it that I remember putting there.. And it's never been in a case and my nieces/nephew use it a lot for games and taking pictures..

jbarcus81 said:
I hope so.. I'll give it a shot.. I just couldn't figure out how this one got so messed up when my old HTC DNA still has the SINGLE scratch on it that I remember putting there.. And it's never been in a case and my nieces/nephew use it a lot for games and taking pictures..
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It's just luck of the draw.
Toothpaste and a magic eraser are both softer than the glass and harder than the film. It'll scratch the film right off and won't damage the glass at all. Just keep working it until it comes off completely.
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jbarcus81 said:
I hope so.. I'll give it a shot.. I just couldn't figure out how this one got so messed up when my old HTC DNA still has the SINGLE scratch on it that I remember putting there.. And it's never been in a case and my nieces/nephew use it a lot for games and taking pictures..
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I used isopropyl alcohol and a q-tip to clean the rest of the film off of the lens. Took about 5 minutes. I don't know what HTC did differently, because my M7 or any of my previous HTC phones haven't had this issue.

replica9000 said:
I used isopropyl alcohol and a q-tip to clean the rest of the film off of the lens. Took about 5 minutes. I don't know what HTC did differently, because my M7 or any of my previous HTC phones had this issue.
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I'll try the toothpaste route.. Alcohol hasn't worked.. But I know I haven't scratched this lens at all.. I'm careful, and it being in a case all the time? It's never flush with whatever surface I have it on.. So.. Who knows.. I'll hit HTC up if I can't figure it out...

Tell Me Your Experience NOT Using A Screen Protector

I've had my Z1C a little less than a month. I started using a screen protector immediately because of all the warnings I saw here. In the first case I used one of those thin plastic protectors; I didn't like the look or feel. I'm currently using a glass protector; better look and feel. BUT, I really would like to use the phone without any screen protector. I had a Samsung Galaxy S2 for 3-1/2 years that I used without a screen protector (or case). The screen had NO scratches on it when I donated it to charity (the case was a bit roughed up). If any of you have had the Z1C more than 3 months and DON'T use a screen protector, can you tell me how well the screen is holding up? Do you have regrets about NOT using a protector? What is your opinion of all the "must use a screen protector" warnings.
I really like this phone, except for the whole screen delicacy issue. Your opinions are valued. Thanks.

Until they start making Phones with 100% scratch proof/resistant glass then I'll never be without one, the first task before even switching a new Phone on is to apply the provided or pre purchased screen protector because each scratch on the screen directly or even the ASF lowers resale value imo.
I don't believe anyone can properly use a Phone for 3 years and not get a single scratch.

My I9001 (Galaxy S Plus) also didn't have any scratches without ever having used a case or protector. I'm just using one with the Z1C because it was twice as expensive, I don't really think I'd need one.

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I don't believe anyone can properly use a Phone for 3 years and not get a single scratch.
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Not sure what your definition of "properly" is, but I did use my Galaxy S2 for more than 3 years in both the jungles of Costa Rica and the urban jungles of the US, with nary a scratch. ? Never used a case or protector and always carried it in my front pants pocket. Made sure it was the only thing in that pocket. Am I unique? I doubt it. There must be at least one other soul out there with the same luck. ☺

Iruwen said:
My I9001 (Galaxy S Plus) also didn't have any scratches without ever having used a case or protector. I'm just using one with the Z1C because it was twice as expensive, I don't really think I'd need one.
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Glad to hear our Galaxy experiences were similar. And like you, with all the negative comments on screen scratches, I'm using a protector too. Just would prefer not to. In my case, I paid much more for the S2 than this new Z1. Still, I'd like to keep the screen as undamaged as possible. It's hard for me to believe screens have gotten softer, rather than harder. Might the issue be a bit exaggerated? That's why I'm looking for responses from users not using protection.

rebecker said:
Not sure what your definition of "properly" is, but I did use my Galaxy S2 for more than 3 years in both the jungles of Costa Rica and the urban jungles of the US, with nary a scratch.
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Hmm...
...(skip to 1:00) well that's interesting. I think the main problem with Sony is that the logo is baked into the ASF so if you remove it you remove the logo which I certainly don't want to do, but even then given the search results for gorilla glass scratched, I still wouldn't want to be without one.

XperienceD said:
Hmm...
...well that's interesting. I think the main problem with Sony is that the logo is baked into the ASF so if you remove it you remove the logo which I certainly don't want to do, but even then given the search results for gorilla glass scratched, I still wouldn't want to be without one.
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So, it seems that the issue is not the softness of the glass, it's the softness of the ASF. So, once the ASF is damaged (a week, a month, a year, perhaps 3 years ) it can be removed and a glass protector or oleophobic coating liquid could be used to "refresh" the screen. So, what to do, what to do, hmmm? 1. Add a protector right away. 2. Remove the ASF once it gets damaged and add a protector. Or... 3. Remove the ASF once it gets damaged and use the coating liquid. None of these are really options I was looking for. So...again...anyone out there having good success with the Z1C's screen after 3 months of use who hasn't added any type of protection?

its like sex without a condom. much more fun without the protection, but you are afraid all the time

I've had mine for about 7 months and there has begun to appear small 'smudge-like' blemishes on the ASF. They're practically unnoticeable in daily use, partly because they're so small and 'light', but mostly because they're covered up by all the fingerprints. This is how I came to this thread, I noticed the fingerprints and thought perhaps I should test a scratch-protector, decided to wipe the phone to show off my 'protector-free spotless screen', but lo and behold, there are (albeit very slight) imperfections below the smudges!
While considering the period of use (7 months, not long, but not short either), these 'scratches' are hardly noteworthy, but I could definitively image it becoming a "problem" after 2-3 years, though it certainly depends on the care of which you handle the phone. I too keep my phone alone in the pocket as I'm sure keys would make quick work of the seemingly malleable ASF. I've twice during this period dropped the phone behind the bed, but never any significant (read: pavement) or high-height drops. But if you want your phone to stay mint then I'd probably have to recommend a scratch-protector. Perhaps even wiping the phone with certain kind of fabrics create these slight blemishes as well, or at least worsens prior scuff-marks.
But I'm worried about your opinions on the screen-protectors since I too have always disliked them (from afar, I've never actually used them myself.) I used my phone without any sort of protection for the first 6.5 months, just recently I received a semi-thin (terrapin) case because I noticed how bad the plastic backside was getting scratched for some reason -- worst part is I like the terrapin, which I didn't think I would, so I wish I'd gotten around to it earlier. When compared to the plastic backside, the ASF is pure diamond.
Think I'll order some type of scratch-protector to see if I can live with it, but I'm also not too worried about making the screen unreadable by not using one.

Tograd said:
I've had mine for about 7 months and there has begun to appear small 'smudge-like' blemishes on the ASF......
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Thanks for your reply. As I've read the responses here, I've become convinced that a screen protector is probably generally needed. Sad . I currently have the Skinomi Techskin Carbon Fiber applique on the back. It looks good. I tried the Skinomi screen protector, but disliked the look and feel. I'm now using the Brando Tempered Glass Rounded Edition. It looks great and feels right to the touch. Other than 2 tiny flaws (one in the glass and one caused by my not getting all the dust off), it's nearly perfect. (And Brando's customer service is second to none!) So...I guess I'm going to use the protection, as much as I think it is a serious flaw on Sony's part. Not sure what their rationale was in using ASF. I expect more from them.
That being said, I love this phone.

Agree and I appreciate the suggestions/recommendations.
I was hesitant to upload a photo of my phone because everything looks way worse than it really is.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6xEhyXR0UeEN2JZZll3OERQQ28/edit
95% of what you see in the picture is invisible in real life. So it's not as bad as it might seem, and a lot of it is probably just grease/dust rather than physical marks, but a lot of it is real (regardless if you can see it with your eyes or not) and is bound to accumulate further over time. The bottom left scuff is real but it does not look anything as bad as it does in that picture -- might have come about while phone was sliding around under my bed or something, though it looks more like 'pocket-wear' rather than a 1-time-accident. Perhaps most of if could have been avoided by having a raised-edge case.

Tograd said:
Agree and I appreciate the suggestions/recommendations.
I was hesitant to upload a photo of my phone because everything looks way worse than it really is.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6xEhyXR0UeEN2JZZll3OERQQ28/edit
95% of what you see in the picture is invisible in real life. So it's not as bad as it might seem, and a lot of it is probably just grease/dust rather than physical marks, but a lot of it is real (regardless if you can see it with your eyes or not) and is bound to accumulate further over time. The bottom left scuff is real but it does not look anything as bad as it does in that picture -- might have come about while phone was sliding around under my bed or something, though it looks more like 'pocket-wear' rather than a 1-time-accident. Perhaps most of if could have been avoided by having a raised-edge case.
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Thanks for the picture.
I used my phone for 4 days without screen protection. The accumulation of finger prints was extreme. But even more extreme was the way the phone acted as a dust magnet. Again, I'm assuming the ASF was the issue. The screen protection eliminated most of the dust issue and a good deal of the finger print intensity. And, of course, the back protection eliminated all of the dust and finger print issues.
So... I guess I'm beating a dead horse. ? This phone requires protection.

My experience is really bad... I got scrathes 2 hours after i got my phone (both on the back and on the front)... I applied a protector on the back. But i found a site that sells original Sony ASF (it has the Sony logo printed on it). So I decided that once this one looks too bad I'll replace it.
I can search for the link if you want me to.
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I guess you missed the "NOT".

I'm using the Z1c since release and got a new one in June (warranty). I never used a protector on any of my phones. The first Z1c I had got many small scratsches (not visible when the screen was on) - but still had many scratches. Since the new one I'm really careful and that helps a lot: not visible scratch since June:
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I guess you missed the "NOT".
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Who? Me?
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