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Any chance of running a vanilla version of gingerbread?
r_3 said:
Any chance of running a vanilla version of gingerbread?
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Once HTC releases the kernel source code for the Inspire, then the work on a CM 7 compatible kernel can begin.
If you want to play around with it, you can install the DHD version. It runs quite well besides having no audio. The source code is needed to build a kernel that supports the inspires audio.
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Once HTC releases the kernel source code for the Inspire, then the work on a CM 7 compatible kernel can begin.
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How long after releasing a device is the manufacturer supposed to release the source code? I'm not too familiar with the whole open source thing
HTC is quite good about it. Usually a couple of weeks or so.
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HTC is quite good about it. Usually a couple of weeks or so.
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Ahh cool, hopefully sooner than later xD I haven't had any Cyanogen love since my Nexus One
r34p3rex said:
Ahh cool, hopefully sooner than later xD I haven't had any Cyanogen love since my Nexus One
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Yeah I hear you. I've never had a device that was really supported (loaded it on my Streak, but next to nothing worked). I've always flashed my friends devices with it and I'm quite jealous. lol
Good news is that they plan to support it. If you go to their forums they've added the Inspire to the Desire HD.
This is great news I have also installed a ton of cm7 on all of my buddies phones and can't wait to actually run it myself.
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Once HTC releases the kernel source code for the Inspire, then the work on a CM 7 compatible kernel can begin.
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What is it that htc does or doesn't do that makes so many of its phones compatible with cm? Or does the cm crew simply prefer to support htc phones compared to others?
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What is it that htc does or doesn't do that makes so many of its phones compatible with cm? Or does the cm crew simply prefer to support htc phones compared to others?
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well, for starters, they use the standard mtd partition layout (unlike Samsung who uses bml) which means the "fastboot" commands can work. on top of that, their devices are also usually extraordinarily similar between generations which leads to most of the exploits and such working on multiple phones. so you have a LARGE number of devices being worked on by a LARGE number of developers with extreme similarities. this leads to a lot of tools working on multiple devices (the Inspire is actually a good example of this, seeing as how it's basically a Desire HD... it's even got the Ace codename--same as the Desire HD) which makes the rapid pace of development understandable.
Add to the fact that htc and tmobile (who had the first android phone which also happened to be htc) both encourage this "hobbyist" attitude from the developer community on non-dev phones (all dev phones were htc until the Neuxs S... G1/ADP, Magic/Ion, Nexus One... and they are almost entirely open source from my understanding) to both encourage people to buy their phones and also to ENJOY their phones. HTC provides software they consider to be the best "overall user experience" and I think that means they provide android (usually with Sense UI) so that it will appeal to the widest range of people. But then there are people who want that vanilla UI without buying the dev phone (such as myself and possibly you) and I'm betting htc doesn't want to actively discourage people having this option because it means improved sales from the hobbyist community. Now I have no inside info, but I'm sure the only exploits and such that they patch are security vulnerabilities (which are the ones exploited to get root). htc even fixed cyanogen's personal Nexus One due to a faulty power button even though his "hackery" voids the warranty. Tmobile provided/collaborated with cyanogenmod with the theme-ing engine for CM7. This history of collaboration between google, htc, tmobile, and the developer community has led to strong ties and familiarity with the platform.
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tmobile likes having the developers on their service because it means more subscribers; htc likely wants to appeal to both the average consumer and the developers so offers an out of the box experience that most can enjoy (Sense) but doesn't actively try to discourage developers.
Kaik541 said:
well, for starters, they use the standard mtd partition layout (unlike Samsung who uses bml) which means the "fastboot" commands can work. on top of that, their devices are also usually extraordinarily similar between generations which leads to most of the exploits and such working on multiple phones. so you have a LARGE number of devices being worked on by a LARGE number of developers with extreme similarities. this leads to a lot of tools working on multiple devices (the Inspire is actually a good example of this, seeing as how it's basically a Desire HD... it's even got the Ace codename--same as the Desire HD) which makes the rapid pace of development understandable.
Add to the fact that htc and tmobile (who had the first android phone which also happened to be htc) both encourage this "hobbyist" attitude from the developer community on non-dev phones (all dev phones were htc until the Neuxs S... G1/ADP, Magic/Ion, Nexus One... and they are almost entirely open source from my understanding) to both encourage people to buy their phones and also to ENJOY their phones. HTC provides software they consider to be the best "overall user experience" and I think that means they provide android (usually with Sense UI) so that it will appeal to the widest range of people. But then there are people who want that vanilla UI without buying the dev phone (such as myself and possibly you) and I'm betting htc doesn't want to actively discourage people having this option because it means improved sales from the hobbyist community. Now I have no inside info, but I'm sure the only exploits and such that they patch are security vulnerabilities (which are the ones exploited to get root). htc even fixed cyanogen's personal Nexus One due to a faulty power button even though his "hackery" voids the warranty. Tmobile provided/collaborated with cyanogenmod with the theme-ing engine for CM7. This history of collaboration between google, htc, tmobile, and the developer community has led to strong ties and familiarity with the platform.
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tmobile likes having the developers on their service because it means more subscribers; htc likely wants to appeal to both the average consumer and the developers so offers an out of the box experience that most can enjoy (Sense) but doesn't actively try to discourage developers.
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And this is why HTC is full of win
If only the Inspire had a front facing camera, it'd be perfect.
r34p3rex said:
And this is why HTC is full of win
If only the Inspire had a front facing camera, it'd be perfect.
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I agree! I have heard on XDA that there should be an HTC Android device on At&t later this year with the front facing camera and all that.
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If you want to play around with it, you can install the DHD version. It runs quite well besides having no audio. The source code is needed to build a kernel that supports the inspires audio.
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Can we install CM7 then install our original radio to get sound back?
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Can we install CM7 then install our original radio to get sound back?
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Sounds more like a kernal issue.
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Can we install CM7 then install our original radio to get sound back?
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No. It's the kernel...not the radio.
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I have never tried out CM at all so I will deffinately check it out once it is available for the Inspire
Just tried out CM7, no audio as expected. Someone needs to figure out what makes the Inspire kernel different from the standard Desire HD kernel, then port it to the CM7 kernel xD
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Just tried out CM7, no audio as expected. Someone needs to figure out what makes the Inspire kernel different from the standard Desire HD kernel, then port it to the CM7 kernel xD
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You need the source first.
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From what I understand CM7 RC1 was released for the Desire HD last night so all we should need is an appropriate kernel to flash over that. I also read some people were able to get sound from a TELUS kernel for that device. Can anyone confirm that?
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From what I understand CM7 RC1 was released for the Desire HD last night so all we should need is an appropriate kernel to flash over that. I also read some people were able to get sound from a TELUS kernel for that device. Can anyone confirm that?
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Seems any dhd Rom will work. If cm7 was ported then it should work like any other Rom with the TELUS.
Inspire (rooted)
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Vote here for the HTC Sensation to get Cyanogen Mod Support:
http://twtpoll.com/r/hsrsfj
Please share this poll. If we can get the dev to get a HTC Sensation we'll get CM on the phone.
If the bootloader is locked as tightly as the Incredible S, then it's going to take a lot more than a dev with a phone to get CM on your device...
Going to take jesus christ and a lot of redbull.
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Yes, if, but we don't know that yet. Look at the Thunderbolt. It can be done.
Von meinen Nexus One gesendet, mit XDA Premium.
Looks like Sensation pretty much won the poll already.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/169-htc-desire-hd-htc-inspire/
So why is this so hard? If it's already out for the DHD, the chances are it will make it to the Sensation.
The encryption methods on Thunderbolt, Incredible S & Sensation are heavier than on the Desire HD first of all.
A hack for the Thunderbolt was found based on a downgraded leaked firmware that could be flashed as a means to achieve S-OFF. A similar approach was tried already for the Incredible S, but so far it has failed.
I suggest poking around the Incredible S Development forum if you want to stay updated on the prospects of hacking the Sensation too.
http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/59403297395716097
@bradaparker we're gonna support the G2X. not sure about sensation yet because of the signed boot crap.
Got my vote
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http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/59403297395716097
@bradaparker we're gonna support the G2X. not sure about sensation yet because of the signed boot crap.
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That's Cyanogen himself, he doesn't like Sense UI. But others members will support Sensation.
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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You're right, I buy HTC Sensation for Sense UI 3.0. But for people that like AOSP CM7 will give them choices.
PS Look like Samsux troll are out in force.... hahahaha funny as hell.
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sub0min0us said:
I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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Well, if you like Sense 3.0, then leave it on! No one forces you to install CM! I like the possibilities of individualising your phone with Cyanogen Mod!
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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Ehh everyone is different. Personally i feel sense, even in its old version, was pretty bloated. Now in its crazy 3d implementation it is even more so. I buy a device based on if its supported by cm7.
Its from my damn phone!!!
Damn, this is almost a deal breaker. I was really looking forward to this being supported by Cyanogen. Not that they still wont. I own a N1 and been running Cyan from the begining. I am not looking forward to an LG phone. It scares me. HTC builds quality phones. I hear a bunch of things about the Gx2 but if its cyan software, it may solve some issues. This phone looks so damn good tho
i wanna CM on HTC Sensation too.
how its going ?
Ask charansingh, he's on the board too.
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I'd like CM on it too. Love the sensations hardware but sense looks a bit dated and bloated to me now.
I have tried most of the UI's. Sense, by far, is the heaviest and most restrictive one. From the standard 16 apps 4x4 screen configuration to the inability to adjust certain widgets to smaller sizes. Therefore, Sense is gone for me anyway. I would welcome the mod support if I get one.
my Sensation is crying for the CM
any news ?
As the title says, will we have a ROM with samsung's latest ROM with touchwiz and gingerbread? I am specifically interested in touchwiz because it has gpu acceleration in browser and the UI in general. I came from a Desire in hope that I will get a better phone. Being able to play the latest games is good, but laggy browser, laggy custom launcher and frequent RAM memory leaks makes me want to trade this phone for something else. Its a huge epic fail from Google imo.
Not sure why i posted, might need to get some sleep
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I don't see why it couldn't be done.
I would do it if I had the knowledge, but I don't so I'm going to leave it to the professionals.
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As the title says, will we have a ROM with samsung's latest ROM with touchwiz and gingerbread? I am specifically interested in touchwiz because it has gpu acceleration in browser and the UI in general. I came from a Desire in hope that I will get a better phone. Being able to play the latest games is good, but laggy browser, laggy custom launcher and frequent RAM memory leaks makes me want to trade this phone for something else. Its a huge epic fail from Google imo.
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Are you running stock? Cause my phone is fine with stock I find it more stable then anything else the only thing I hate is the camera app and the ones in the market takes too long to take a picture, beside that as stock android goes is perfect for me at least
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While I would also love to see TouchWiz (I had a Vibrant before it, TouchWiz > stock imo), I don't have any lag issues with my Nexus S as I had with my Vibrant. Did you make sure nothing is on in the background eating up CPU and thus causing everything to slow down?
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While I would also love to see TouchWiz (I had a Vibrant before it, TouchWiz > stock imo), I don't have any lag issues with my Nexus S as I had with my Vibrant. Did you make sure nothing is on in the background eating up CPU and thus causing everything to slow down?
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Damn you said you like touchwiz? Wow first person I know that says that you really need to try sense then
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I loved touchwiz.. Gave me a reason to root and instantly remove it.
Check the dev section, if you have any knowledge you can even help out... seems the guy is stuck on a few things and is busy with exams...
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Yes I've seen jonathon's topic, found it after I posted this one, sorry for not searching before
It's not about the cpu usage, that's fine, I'm only having memory leaks (ram). And the browser sucks when it comes to rendering images and flash content, it lags like hell.
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Yes I've seen jonathon's topic, found it after I posted this one, sorry for not searching before
It's not about the cpu usage, that's fine, I'm only having memory leaks (ram). And the browser sucks when it comes to rendering images and flash content, it lags like hell.
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Looking at buying a Nexus S and coming from a Desire myself, this worries me.
Is this guy exaggerating, or is this really the experience? I was expecting it to be just the same as the Desire, if not better.
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Looking at buying a Nexus S and coming from a Desire myself, this worries me.
Is this guy exaggerating, or is this really the experience? I was expecting it to be just the same as the Desire, if not better.
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Desire runs sense right ? and is way different story, if you use to cm7 then nexus s is great latest update all the time and most likely get ice cream before anything else, if you don't. Care about SD storing and sense this phone makes perfect sense if you do then better go with HTC
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Desire runs sense right ? and is way different story, if you use to cm7 then nexus s is great latest update all the time and most likely get ice cream before anything else, if you don't. Care about SD storing and sense this phone makes perfect sense if you do then better go with HTC
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My Desire runs sense by default / stock yes. But I'm rooted and already running CM7.0.3 on it.
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My Desire runs sense by default / stock yes. But I'm rooted and already running CM7.0.3 on it.
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Yeah that's what I thought I had the evo 4G supersonic and sense have some nice features but I went with cm7 I like it a lot but after a week the rom will run into bugs and it will drive me nuts like whencalling the proximity sensor wouldn't work right or get stock in alot of apps, so when they announced this phone I waited cause I don't like T-Mobile now is in sprint so I got it and not bugs and I miss the camera app from sense or cm7 but I'm happy tho
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Looking at buying a Nexus S and coming from a Desire myself, this worries me.
Is this guy exaggerating, or is this really the experience? I was expecting it to be just the same as the Desire, if not better.
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Believe me, coming from a Desire you'll feel a huge difference in web browsing. The browser in the stock android isn't gpu accelerated as in HTC Sense, so loading flash content or big pictures is practicably impossible, it slows down the phone so much!
Another issue that is bothering me is that the Nexus S has in reality about 300mb of RAM (~200mb RAM are used by the GPU). The system uses about half of it, so you're left with 150mb RAM to handle the apps, which is extremely low. Especially when you open the browser, you're sometimes left with less then 50mb free, which slows down the phone. So everytime I browse the internet, I have to manually kill the app after I'm done, cause I run into a memory leak.
Also custom launchers (launcher pro, adw and others), when filled with 4x4 widgets and have about 4-5 screens, scrolling is not smooth at all. This is because the UI isn't gpu accelerated as well, its handled by the CPU. So unless you OC it a bit, it will be slugish.
I'm pretty disappointed in certain things after coming from an HTC phone (their UI really kicks ass), but the nexus S has a superb display (be it SLCD or S-Amoled), has far much better hardware, enough internal memory (16gb is enough for everyone imo) and a much better battery life, that I can tell it for sure.
And still, all in all, if I knew nexus has these problems with the RAM and browser, I would've probably bought another HTC Device, maybe the Incredible S. That doesn't mean I'm not satisfied with this phone tho, can't wait for icecream sandwich.
I have still 10 days to switch from this phone to any other one I chose. I did not even know HTC locked to bootloader for this phone when I got it
I HATE, PURE HATE htc sense but I thought cyanogenmod would help to get rid of it
Reading allot on the forum it looks like the unlocked bootloader can take months and months before htc releases it. And I can't take that long with htc sense
Any of you also think switching to the cheap plasticy samsung galaxy s2 just because it has unlocked/cracked bootloader?
I am still hoping htc will release the unlocked botoloader this week, otherwise I am back to ****ty samsung
I understand people who don't like HTC Sense, but what I don't understand is why not just put a different launcher on the phone (ADW, LP, Go, etc.), disable any HTC sync services, remove any HTC widgets and if you're really picky, put on an alternate lock screen.
I get that people like running Cyanogen because it's a "clean" Android build, but to me it's not that big of a deal. Not to mention, people always say Android has decent memory management. If you're not running any HTC-based apps, Android should manage that memory they use properly and set it as a lower priority than anything else you're running.
Everyone has their opinions, so I'm sure this is all based on preference. To answer your question though, it's all up to you. There are flaws with every device out there, so you really have to pick the lesser of two evils I guess.
HTC Sense takes over 500mb in ram just by idle. And clean android takes about 150mb ram running idle.
Sense takes allot of battery power even when you don't use it all.
Shame on HTC for encrypting the crap out of this phone...
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HTC Sense takes over 500mb in ram just by idle. And clean android takes about 150mb ram running idle.
Sense takes allot of battery power even when you don't use it all.
Shame on HTC for encrypting the crap out of this phone...
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Sense doesn't utilize 500 mb in idle state, I guarantee you this. Be patient, change the launcher, the phone is still great stock. I assure you it's better than SGS2 with the god awful Samsung software, their developers can't write decent firmware for their amazing hardware.
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I have still 10 days to switch from this phone to any other one I chose. I did not even know HTC locked to bootloader for this phone when I got it
I HATE, PURE HATE htc sense but I thought cyanogenmod would help to get rid of it
Reading allot on the forum it looks like the unlocked bootloader can take months and months before htc releases it. And I can't take that long with htc sense
Any of you also think switching to the cheap plasticy samsung galaxy s2 just because it has unlocked/cracked bootloader?
I am still hoping htc will release the unlocked botoloader this week, otherwise I am back to ****ty samsung
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Apparently the GS2 makes you fail your CRB check. Sensation is holier than thou, and any other thoughts is herecy.
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Ahh cyan. Good quadrants and crappy GPS ....no thanks ill wait it out
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Sense doesn't utilize 500 mb in idle state, I guarantee you this. Be patient, change the launcher, the phone is still great stock. I assure you it's better than SGS2 with the god awful Samsung software, their developers can't write decent firmware for their amazing hardware.
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I got now at idle all programs stopped: 437mb used 121free.
Can you report what you got?
Ive got a sg s2 and its just about to go back to amazon as ive had two faulty handsets .... The kies software that u have to use to update the phones firmware is buggy as hell ... If you transfer stuff from kies to nemory card it probably wont work (i have tried to transfer videos twice) the data connection is buggy ... Dont get me wrong its a superb handset but till they sort out kies and other issyes im coming back to htc snd just ordered sensation
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free != available
free means not used.
in the used section you should probably have something telling you how much is used for buffers.. add that amount up to the amount free and you should get the real amount of available ram.
also, did you install other apps, are you using widgets.. info info info.
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Sense doesn't utilize 500 mb in idle state, I guarantee you this. Be patient, change the launcher, the phone is still great stock. I assure you it's better than SGS2 with the god awful Samsung software, their developers can't write decent firmware for their amazing hardware.
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Your comment is irresponsible: do you even haven an SGSII? I have both the Sensation AND the SGSII. I can tell you this: TouchWiz 4.0 is light years better than Sense 3.0. It runs quite smoothly --I didn't even bother installing LauncherPro, which is what I'd done on my 5 other Android phones (the Milestone, the Desire Z, the SGS, the Xperia Arc and the LG Optimus 2X) -- and TW4 certainly doesn't take up as much memory bandwidth as Sense 3.0 does.
Also, you're saying: "be patient with the Sensation, just put a new launcher because SGSII's UI is crap." Ummm... you can also change TouchWiz 4.0, if you want! "Crappy" UI solved.
Please don't jump to conclusions based on stuff you just read somewhere (it pays not to take everything at face value) or because you had a bad experience with another device from the same manufacturer. Also, if you really have a jones for a particular device, just say it. We don't advice that borders on blatant fanboy-ism here. We get enough of that from the Apple fanboys on Engadget.
Anyway, in response to the OP: I have few complaints with the SGSII so far, which is more than I can say for the Sensation. To be sure, the Sensation's build quality is wonderful, it feels solid in hand, in contrast with the build of the SGSII, which feels a bit flimsy -- and I can see the attraction of the Sense 3.0 lockscreen. I am very partial to the stock lockscreen and stock widgets, which is why I've stuck with SenseUI even though it's still too rough.
Meanwhile, the Sensation's display looks washed out and the main Sense 3.0 launcher jitters between screens. Its one bright spot is that, because of its higher resolution, text looks great. That said, higher resolution or otherwise, the Sensation's display can't hold a candle to the SGSII's Super AMOLED Plus display. Heck, the Sensation's display isn't even as good as the SGS's!
What's more, you'd think HTC would have made it possible to customize the functionality of the right and left launcher buttons by now. Instead, we're stuck with that ridiculous "personalize" button. I have no idea why they won't allow customization of those two buttons. I really hope they provide a way to unlock the device's bootloader soon.
Meanwhile -- and like I've already said -- TouchWiz 4.0 actually runs very smoothly. In real world usage on my SGSII, it's about as smooth as LauncherPro, which surprised me quite a bit. Up until I'd gotten the SGSII, I'd made it a habit to buy LPPro Plus for each of my devices. Not anymore. Also, you can customize the app drawer and arrange the apps to suit your preferences. Likewise, many of the stock widgets can be resized. It's a huge improvement that's been implemented by Samsung and they deserve some recognition for that, not derision.
If I had to choose between the 2 devices, I'd definitely go with the SGS. Really, about the only area where HTC is better is how solidly it's built. This isn't to say the Sensation is a bad device -- it's my 2nd favorite android device after the SGSII (and is certainly MUCH better than the O2X) -- it's just that it leaves too much to be desired.
Xaroth said:
free != available
free means not used.
in the used section you should probably have something telling you how much is used for buffers.. add that amount up to the amount free and you should get the real amount of available ram.
also, did you install other apps, are you using widgets.. info info info.
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I have installed apps (23 of them) and I only use the htc clock/weather flip clock. My last phone had only 350mb ram and always got 200 free. That's why I hate so much on htc sense.
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I got now at idle all programs stopped: 437mb used 121free.
Can you report what you got?
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HI..i can report you,that idle when all running stopped Free 231 Mb
me too thinking of swithing to galaxy s II... firstly bad about this phone is that whenever i use the web browser or just play usual games like angry birds the phone gets hotter... secondly of the speaker on sensation phone is too soft people call me i can barely hear it is ringing... and of course the locked bootloader... that's just my opinion on this phone... and the touchscreen lag... at times...
What's the point of asking this question in the Sensation forum? Obviously people will take offense. Ask it in the SGSII forum if you want to reaffirm your decision or whatever.
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What's the point of asking this question in the Sensation forum? Obviously people will take offense. Ask it in the SGSII forum if you want to reaffirm your decision or whatever.
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Nice point! We all know that the guys in the SGS2 forum are going to be very objective! /sarcasm
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Hi i own a Sgs 2 for one month and i just bought me a Sensation as a second phone, my personal opinion is that the Sgs 2 is much better than the sensation in terms of speed/smoothness throughout the whole software, Tw 4.0 vs Sense 3.0, video codec support, Battery life, Camera, Super Amoled Plus vs Slcd, Speaker volume, More Stable. The sensation wins in the design department (for me), Heavier (feels better) and thats my personal opinion cheers
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What's the point of asking this question in the Sensation forum? Obviously people will take offense. Ask it in the SGSII forum if you want to reaffirm your decision or whatever.
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If the OP has "HATE...PURE HATE" for sense....why on earth would you buy it?
I don't buy things I hate..... Just some personal advice
Plus if you didn't know it had a locked bootloader, then with all due respect, you didn't do any research before you made a big purchase.
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Apparently the GS2 makes you fail your CRB check. Sensation is holier than thou, and any other thoughts is herecy.
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buhahaha that was funny!
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First....
Sense is not only UI.... Contacts / Mail / Messages / Weather / SW Tweaks / Notifications / Exchange integration (company work) ........ Are between... mmmm.... let's say 2 or 3 million times better than samsung or stock sw....
This is far better than SGS2 in terms of usability... and really close in the rest....
Second....
My Sense FLY...
Third....
Is up to everybody to buy one thing or another.... 99% of the people with the sensation are really happy... and If U have the last rom it runs even better (fast fast fast...)
Fourth....
Smooth effect != Fast....
For example
Case 1:
- Press button
- Instant WOW !!! Effect
- 4 secs
- App opened
Total 4 secs + a WOW !!
Case 2:
- Press button
- Simpler effect or no effect (1 sec)
- Instant App opened
Total 1 secs + no WOW !!
Fifth....
<< HTC Sensation > Sensation General > Switch to SGS2? >>
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I heard that touch wiz becomes very buggy and the phone cant handle rom well, probably just rumors though.
it seems every single day at the moment there is a new rom in the dev section, having a sensation seems to be finally paying off.
Theres nothing really new, just sense 3.x with practically nothing extra, IMHO. Only seen 1 AOSP ROM (yikes)
Glad you're more optimistic then me lol
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Apart from the new MIUI rom...everything has been the same.
Im only waiting for the sources from htc then sense will be so great
no need for aosp
It's as Awesome as it has always been! Hang out in the Development section with our talented chefs for a while..you'll get the real picture!!
I think once source is out its going to get way better. I can't wait for official cm9 and virtuous Quattro.
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Well it's been amazing if not great. Hey at least our devs keep their ROMs updated, right?
Sensation-al! said:
Theres nothing really new, just sense 3.x with practically nothing extra, IMHO. Only seen 1 AOSP ROM (yikes)
Glad you're more optimistic then me lol
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I agree with the OP...
There's more than just Sense 3.x. There's plenty of Sense 4 ROMs now too which are very nice indeed
Ok I am I missing something or has every post in this thread missed something? Development is not just making custom ROMs. Don't get me wrong custom ROMs are great but with Qualcomm releasing the driver binaries for the Adreno 2xx Snapdragon processors., and the work being done on making the Sensation unbrickable. The Sensation is on the path to be a very valuable development device which means it is going to be open to loads of development. I would even dare say it has a capability to reach some of the level of development that the HD2 has. The driver binaries is enough on it's own as it opens up the possibility of custom bootloaders and booting of different OS's on the Sensation, I mean we do have S-off, and a official unlock from HTC Dev. Either one of these can be compared to HSPL for the HD2, without it non of the thing achieved on the HD2 would have every happened. Then you have the unbrickable work being done, this will make developers really want it because they know they have somewhat of a earth net and can revive the Sensation if they make a mistake and have to revive it. Even the legendary HD2 has never reached this status......
T-Macgnolia said:
Ok I am I missing something or has every post in this thread missed something? Development is not just making custom ROMs. Don't get me wrong custom ROMs are great but with Qualcomm releasing the driver binaries for the Adreno 2xx Snapdragon processors., and the work being done on making the Sensation unbrickable. The Sensation is on the path to be a very valuable development device which means it is going to be open to loads of development. I would even dare say it has a capability to reach some of the level of development that the HD2 has. The driver binaries is enough on it's own as it opens up the possibility of custom bootloaders and booting of different OS's on the Sensation, I mean we do have S-off, and a official unlock from HTC Dev. Either one of these can be compared to HSPL for the HD2, without it non of the thing achieved on the HD2 would have every happened. Then you have the unbrickable work being done, this will make developers really want it because they know they have somewhat of a earth net and can revive the Sensation if they make a mistake and have to revive it. Even the legendary HD2 has never reached this status......
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HD2 is capable of WM, WP, Android, Ubuntu....far more than just Android on the Sensation. But I can see your point.
the_scotsman said:
HD2 is capable of WM, WP, Android, Ubuntu....far more than just Android on the Sensation. But I can see your point.
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Yeah this is why I said some of the level of development. The HD2 can boot almost OS thrown at it. But I do see a real possibility of custom booloaders for the Sensation. And when you have a custom bootloader the next step is booting different OS's.
Go take a look at the G2x dev forum. Wow. Its empty.
Do we have a sense rom with Face Unlock?
TopazUser1 said:
Do we have a sense rom with Face Unlock?
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All of the ics roms have that.
Guys, I'm gonna give you a little teaser... There are some thoughts of getting Ubuntu on that baby...
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I like that idea ))))
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I heard Microsoft is adding support for dualcore in wp7. Maybe htc will release a WP with similar specs as the sensation and we may get a WP7 port ? I don't think it's likely anymore though :/
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fr0zenblood75 said:
I heard Microsoft is adding support for dualcore in wp7. Maybe htc will release a WP with similar specs as the sensation and we may get a WP7 port ? I don't think it's likely anymore though :/
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Even if they do I can't see a port happening, like the Nexus One and Desire have the same chip as the Mozart, HD7 and a few others IIRC but those two haven't had ports AFAIK.
we need a license to run wp7 which we dont have
dexter93 said:
All of the ics roms have that.
Guys, I'm gonna give you a little teaser... There are some thoughts of getting Ubuntu on that baby...
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You mean natively (as in booting straight to Ubuntu) or within Android? I use BackTrack 5 in Android, it was a fun ride but I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 anyway so meh. If its native though, that would be awesome.
Also to the guy that I didn't feel like quoting who mentioned that multiple OSes on the Sensation in his mild rant; we would barely even have much of a chance to do such a thing. The closest we could do is Boot 2 Gecko, since the drivers are pretty much cross compatible. The Galaxy S II has it.
dmcb123 said:
we need a license to run wp7 which we dont have
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That didn't stop the HD2 users