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Really? I thought xda was for development, not ranting.
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Bl4ckpheniX said:
Really? I thought xda was for development, not ranting.
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have you developed anything for phones to even talk?
(sorry if you have but i dont know you i helped theme/port roms from captivate to VIBRANTS)
your RAVING this phone is that good... (your opinion everyone is entitled to one)
but isnt RANTING/RAVING generally the same idea... (good thoughts or bad)
and dont get me started on "development" on the SGS4G
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have you developed anything for phones to even talk?
(sorry if you have but i dont know you i helped theme/port roms from captivate to VIBRANTS)
your RAVING this phone is that good... (your opinion everyone is entitled to one)
but isnt RANTING/RAVING generally the same idea... (good thoughts or bad)
and dont get me started on "development" on the SGS4G
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It was sarcasm about it being the best phone ever. Obviously every time you buy anything its obsolete with in a matter of days. With that said, what is the point of complaining about it?
As for development, I am and have been working on a rom for this device. Along with a couple other people. The reason its on the hush is because I would rather wait to announced anything about it until its complete. I am not here to argue with anyone. I am here to make this a better phone for me and everyone here. But when I come here to the general section to help others having REAL issues. All I see is back and forth talk about a new device and how much they hate the sgs 4g. If you are unhappy sell it. If you want to rant about it. Start a blog. It just gets old, and I know I am not the only one that feels this way.
Anyways. That's all I have to say.
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It was sarcasm about it being the best phone ever. Obviously every time you buy anything its obsolete with in a matter of days. With that said, what is the point of complaining about it?
As for development, I am and have been working on a rom for this device. Along with a couple other people. The reason its on the hush is because I would rather wait to announced anything about it until its complete. I am not here to argue with anyone. I am here to make this a better phone for me and everyone here. But when I come here to the general section to help others having REAL issues. All I see is back and forth talk about a new device and how much they hate the sgs 4g. If you are unhappy sell it. If you want to rant about it. Start a blog. It just gets old, and I know I am not the only one that feels this way.
Anyways. That's all I have to say.
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I'm with you on this. Tired of this too.
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+1for Bl4ckpheniX.
All these phones have their good points and bad points it's not some sort of contest. I for one like the sgs4g for a whole variety of reasons. If you don't like it I don't give a sh*t.
I'm here to make this phone better, contribute to others who like the sgs4g, and to learn what I can about development for it. Come on people--these are phones not sports teams. If you like a different one go find the forum for it and gtfo of this one.
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Bl4ckpheniX said:
It was sarcasm about it being the best phone ever. Obviously every time you buy anything its obsolete with in a matter of days. With that said, what is the point of complaining about it?
As for development, I am and have been working on a rom for this device. Along with a couple other people. The reason its on the hush is because I would rather wait to announced anything about it until its complete. I am not here to argue with anyone. I am here to make this a better phone for me and everyone here. But when I come here to the general section to help others having REAL issues. All I see is back and forth talk about a new device and how much they hate the sgs 4g. If you are unhappy sell it. If you want to rant about it. Start a blog. It just gets old, and I know I am not the only one that feels this way.
Anyways. That's all I have to say.
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so this thread was just too what? (please pick one)
A) grow your e-penis (post count)
B) be a hippocrate and make another useless thread
C) gather all the people that feel the same way and have a cyber circle jerk
D) all of the above
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so this thread was just too what? (please pick one)
A) grow your e-penis (post count)
B) be a hippocrate and make another useless thread
C) gather all the people that feel the same way and have a cyber circle jerk
D) all of the above
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E) Learn how to spell.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hippocrate
Look fella, this post was never directed at anyone in particular. So no need to make it personal.
I am really here to help people and this is a forum for development, not hey this phone blows, this phone is better. If you don't understand that you don't really understand XDA.
This wasn't to raise my post count, most all of my posts are to either help someone that is having an issue, testing for other dev's, or for dev work that i am currently working on.
Tweet from @supercurio!
"I'm porting Voodoo lagfix on T-Mobile #Vibrant #GalaxyS4G thanks to infos given by @Krylon360"
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Could someone put together a list of the roms kernels and themes for this phone and keep it updated? I wish I knew more about this stuff and I'd do it myself but I'm kinda new and getting confused... hence the reason for the request... Any takers?
Thanks for everyones hard work... you all rock!!!
BAN
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All you need to do is look in both respective forums under infuse. One for themes and the other for android developement.
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Yeah seriously. Just read so you can learn along the way too.
Thank you both for the replies. I don't want to give the wrong impression... I read the fourms often. Just saying a list would be great... would help people know what fourm to start with, myself included. When you come into the game late its really tough to figure out where to start... for instance, the lastest and greatset stable build. No big deal though, I'll figure it out soon enough. Thanks again for the replys!
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I agree that more reading can definitely be done so that you have a better understanding of everything, but I also agree that the whole process of finding roms and kernels and themes is a pain.
I'm working on a website at android.jakaar.net which will encompass lists of roms and kernels for a large majority of Android phones. It's currently limited to the Samsung Captivate and Samsung Infuse, but go to
android.jakaar.net
I know it doesn't cover much right now, but I am working on it.
I hope it helps, and please forgive the fact that it's not the greatest site at the moment, it takes a lot of time to put all the info together.
let me know if you have a specific device you'd like me to add to my site. To do that, you can email me at [email protected] or go to android.jakaar.net/contact.html
Any ideas on how to get more dev support? And why everything has slowed down for the mytouch 4G slide recently? But shout out to those devs who have made roms for this device. thanks
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You'll see more dev support when the source code gets released. Until then, they can't do any kernel development.
Ive been busy with life. I plan on making updates tomorrow.
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Ive been busy with life. I plan on making updates tomorrow.
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That's kind of it right there. That pesky thing called life keeps getting in the dang way of getting stuff done.
I know work for me has been ... overwhelming... lately, and I don't get much keyboard time right now.
My lady has a birthday coming this weekend, and I picked her up a brand new Nook Color. I'm spending the keyboard time I have this week configuring her surprise. I should be working on that instead of typing this, but I got a half-day today (thankfully) and have a few minutes to spare browsing through the MT4GS forums.
I hate doing graphics work, which is what i'm down to on the Nook Color for her. Installing cm7 and then configuring it the way I want her to have it doesn't take long, and the boot animation is already knocked out, so now it's down to icons and wallpapers.
The reason I hate graphics work is it just takes so long to get so little. Even having pictures of her and I, and tons of pictures of things based on the theme i'm putting together for the device, it still takes so long to stitch them together and/or edit as necessary. Photoshop is probably the most worthwhile software purchase i've ever made, without it ... it would be a long and frustrating road to do something I already don't like doing.
Col.Kernel is right though - as soon as we get kernel source from HTC you'll see this place light up like the sun.
I don't know how long you've been floating around here in the MT4GS forums, but back before we had S-OFF there was very little going on in here. Definite information exhange, but no ROMs or even software patches.
But spending time here we were getting our information together, and when we got S-OFF we hit the ground running. People were asking and asking about ROMs, and some just dove in and started doing ... others were testing for them, and we've all come a long way with this phone.
We've fixed some of the nagging problems, got a handful of awesome ROMs to choose from, each one lovingly constructed by it's developers and all are a pleasure to play with.
There are other interested parties working on interests for this device, and i'll release the ROM i've been working on when it's ready and I have the time to support it. There are definitely things coming down the pipeline.
The best way to get something done really is to do it yourself, and watching the MT4GS section of XDA grow has really reflected that concept more then anything else. Our sharing what we know has enabled people to do just that...
...nestled in the larger home of XDA you can learn how to do anything you could possibly want to do with the device right here.
Really...just think of something you want to do to your phone and then search XDA. If you don't find the information you're looking for (and usually a well-written tutorial) then you'll find someone else interested in doing something like that and have someone to work with. If it can be done, the answer is here somewhere if you can find it.
So let me counter your question with a question, OP, and I mean this in the friendliest manner possible -
What are you doing to support the device?
Good question actually nothing that's why I have the up most respect to those who develop for this phone. You guys are great and I'm in no way tryin to push u guys or anythin. Just asking a question I totally understand that u guys have a life outside of all this now that the kernel source is out things should get moving. Just got to have patience
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warrior24 said:
Good question actually nothing that's why I have the up most respect to those who develop for this phone. You guys are great and I'm in no way tryin to push u guys or anythin. Just asking a question I totally understand that u guys have a life outside of all this now that the kernel source is out things should get moving. Just got to have patience
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I'm going to start work on a kernel when I get time. Wife, baby, and me are getting ready to go to Calif for 2 wks (Disneyland) so I won't be in here much starting next Thursday
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Now that the Vibrant has an ICS ROM currently under development, and since I have read Vibrant ROM's can be ported to the Samsung Galaxy S 4G, does anyone know how feasible this would be? From my understanding the storage is a bit different (partitioning?) but the hardware in these devices appears very similar.
I've read the post about porting Vibrant ROM's but I've also read a few people haven't had much luck. Since I am on leave this coming week I've decided I'll tinker a bit with the concept, I'm also curious if anyone else has.
No doubt, I wish I had the capability to use the source to begin work on a ROM compiled directly towards the SGS4G, but alas I do not
Any ideas or inputs would be greatly appreciated. I am disappointed in the lack of development for this phone, but I do understand why.
Probably won't happen. We don't even have an aosp kernel compiled that I am aware of. Someone was trying to get the KJ6 kernel edited like drhonks and even that didn't turn out.
The couple devs we have left around here are just doing little tweaks and theaming the stock rom lately.... no real new developing afaik.
Kinda sucks... but this phone is pretty much dead in the water.
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Yea we are struggling to get a dated cm7 so what makes you think we can get something newer than that.
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@camalus But you do have the kernel released for GB by Samsung as of recent, which from what I've seen others are doing to get ICS working on their devices.
@daxecutioner24 If you can't find it, make it.
@EjLIFE Not going krazy over cm7,ill be fine withput it
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People, cm kernel is made, just being tweaked, according to krylon. Lets wait patiently, maybe we'll get cm7, then someone will have enough courage to build ICS
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I'd agree, CM7 would be great to have on this device. And hopefully their development of CM7 could make moving from CM7 to CM9 much more easier. I just know this device should run ICS just as well as the Vibrant, and I've seen people port Vibrant ROM's to the SGS4G so I was curious if one thought their was a faster possibility.
If you are so needy for new ROMs and development then you should do it yourself or be patiently waiting for WIPs the "few" but great developers have announced and not flooding the forum with wine and cheese... Just my two cents... Im just saying...
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If you are so needy for new ROMs and development then you should do it yourself or be patiently waiting for WIPs the "few" but great developers have announced and not flooding the forum with wine and cheese... Just my two cents... Im just saying...
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Why do people always respond like this.
He's not whining or demanding anything. Just a thread of some questions and inquiries he was having. No need to semi slam him.
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I know, the devs are great and i feel bad for them for having to put up with alot of crap from other members , but sometimes the devs are assholes too.
Actually, my inquiry was related to the idea of porting the ROM from the Vibrant to this device myself, and asking if anyone with knowledge of doing so if it was even a worthy attempt.
I'm also going to say I have noticed the Samsung side of XDA seems to have only a few developers with knowledge and insight and TONs of people waiting for a chance to flame others. Here is a hint: your post is entirely unconstructive. It isn't your job to protect the developers and when you hop into a thread to shoot your two cents of flame it only details. You are also potentially pushing away the progress others might make by being a douche.
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Actually, my inquiry was related to the idea of porting the ROM from the Vibrant to this device myself, and asking if anyone with knowledge of doing so if it was even a worthy attempt.
I'm also going to say I have noticed the Samsung side of XDA seems to have only a few developers with knowledge and insight and TONs of people waiting for a chance to flame others. Here is a hint: your post is entirely unconstructive. It isn't your job to protect the developers and when you hop into a thread to shoot your two cents of flame it only details. You are also potentially pushing away the progress others might make by being a douche.
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Agreed,people believe too much on these devs.like fanboys.respect them and thats it..no need to defend them every chance you get
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People devs are those who just are better at handling java better then you are. Java = android, not coffee. Anyone can be a dev. I used to suck at all this.
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Yes. I get all your comments about how no good is to flame. I dont really care. Just to begin with. I only posted that because people only do is ask and complain about the "few" devs that only do theme-ing and/or their little so called development. Thats flameful and disrespectful itself because if you want some ICS, you can enjoy Ravers Octane. It may not be ICS but you get my idea. This is an old phone, everybody knows that and we just got GB source a few weeks ago. Its not going to be rainning ROMs instantly. Also, GB is older than the phone itself. The Vibrant has been around for maybe 2 years and many people jumped in the first round of Galaxys, probably skipped this Vibrant Plus so then we dont get many users or devs, therefore why so little development. ICS just got out and is available on like three phones whereas the GB have been around and phones now even come with it while we had to start from froyo...
Bah this is pointless debating. Im just sick of these threads talking sh!+ about development here. Everyone should be grateful of what we have. Again, you want something made then do it yourself. Like it or not, its simple like that.
I wont be visiting this so much contributive thread with my so much non contributive posts. And dont mind critizing my typos, English is not my first language.
All of you should call down.
Op, i remember seeing a thread on how to port any vibrant ROM to the sgs4g. It was pretty detailed and very good. Try looking into that to see if you could get a working ics from the vibrant
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Same thing, since our phone is so different, wouldn't we need an ICS bootloader and or kernel source for ICS for it to work. CM7 may be here in a month, but ICS won't be here until a year after CM9 comes out, if at all. So, just wait for your 2 year tmo contract to end and switch to sprint and get the galaxy nexus 2(possibly 2012).
David1239 said:
I know, the devs are great and i feel bad for them for having to put up with alot of crap from other members , but sometimes the devs are assholes too.
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Can't we all just get along?
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Same thing, since our phone is so different, wouldn't we need an ICS bootloader and or kernel source for ICS for it to work. CM7 may be here in a month, but ICS won't be here until a year after CM9 comes out, if at all. So, just wait for your 2 year tmo contract to end and switch to sprint and get the galaxy nexus 2(possibly 2012).
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I was looking into this and i thought that the port was able to use the gb bootloaders. I'm not sure about it, though.
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Just curious, but...
It seems like, as of late, someone starts to build a new ROM, then stops updating after 2 or 3 rc's, leaving the ROM unfinished. I understand the ROMs are created in someone's spare time, but why start a ROM if you never intend to finish it? Why not finish it before you start something else, or just delete the development thread so we're not sitting here waiting for the next release that never seems to come? No offense to anyone, just curious.
Roms are never really finished you can always add new functions
, themes etc.
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PhantomSectre said:
Just curious, but...
It seems like, as of late, someone starts to build a new ROM, then stops updating after 2 or 3 rc's, leaving the ROM unfinished. I understand the ROMs are created in someone's spare time, but why start a ROM if you never intend to finish it? Why not finish it before you start something else, or just delete the development thread so we're not sitting here waiting for the next release that never seems to come? No offense to anyone, just curious.
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Quit flashing ROMs since you'll never have a 100% guarantee that someone will finish a ROM. Go back to stock GB which has a bad modem and reboot problems. Oh wait, Samsung didn't exactly give you a good ROM either.
Why is it that if the ROM never gets a final version its assumed its unfinished? The unfinished ROMs, ics mutt, cm7, miui, are all still works in progress (well maybe not miui, not sure of it's future). Seems to me everything else is fully functional and doesn't require anything else.
All the the most recent ones, unnamed, vb, icbinb, scom, these are problem free. Just find the right kernel and modem for your phone and they qualify as finished.
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Im still updating mine but this post makes me not want to
And like the post above me said the title doesnt have to be final for it to be final. Also, the dev can choose to start a new rom bc people want the new mod they are bringing to it along with a new theme and tweaks.
So thank you devs for the many roms you guys release.
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I think you should aim to non beta ROMs. At least this way you know you get a fully functional ROM. Regarding Final version, forget about it. Won't happen, won't be announced.
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I think you should aim to non beta ROMs. At least this way you know you get a fully functional ROM. Regarding Final version, forget about it. Won't happen, won't be announced.
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Final version of which are u sure won't be announced?
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most developers acknowledge that there are going to be some dev cycles involved in their releases. I guess some non-developers either don't realize that or haven't picked up on that yet.
Nothing's perfect so take it as it is and don't complain, and if it has a "final" tag on it, it just means the developer is done working on it. Beggars can't be choosers, and choosers can download the source and modify it themselves (or fsck it up even more ).
Quit your belly aching dude, instead, a little appreciation would be a welcome change. We have so many different options to choose from. And every time my noob ass bricks my phone these guys have a post on how to fix it. Fb is right, go back to stock if it bothers you so much, but I'll stick with my 2 day battery life.
side note: on dictionary. com the word of the day is ungrateful turdlicker.
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I think that people get desperate when devs release and early version of a rom instead of an almost final. I think it would be best to release the "final" version to public and since there are many devs with the phone and so many wise users that know how to test and report correctly. In my humble opinion, a dev should pick a group of testers, silently and then release a "final" that probably would have 0 to very few changes. That way devs don't get pissed when people ask same questions and bring up many problems.
I have no problem testing or trying alpha, beta, charlie, delta......... zeta releases, but my concern is with devs releasing lots of projects and getting mad by people asking how to this and how to that. Yeah, read... blablabla yadda yadda... I know no one is in the obligation of doing nothing, either flash or develop or answer questions or help. Thing is that this is a community very diverse and noobs are going to be noobs, haters gonna hate and passive people will be passive...
No need to flame the OP. I think it's a good question, tho.
considering i no longer have a sgs4g it would be hard to update it. The rom itself is fine.. Don't see an issue. If you don't like the theme change it. If you don't like the rom learn how to make your own.
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I think that people get desperate when devs release and early version of a rom instead of an almost final. I think it would be best to release the "final" version to public and since there are many devs with the phone and so many wise users that know how to test and report correctly. In my humble opinion, a dev should pick a group of testers, silently and then release a "final" that probably would have 0 to very few changes. That way devs don't get pissed when people ask same questions and bring up many problems.
I have no problem testing or trying alpha, beta, charlie, delta......... zeta releases, but my concern is with devs releasing lots of projects and getting mad by people asking how to this and how to that. Yeah, read... blablabla yadda yadda... I know no one is in the obligation of doing nothing, either flash or develop or answer questions or help. Thing is that this is a community very diverse and noobs are going to be noobs, haters gonna hate and passive people will be passive...
No need to flame the OP. I think it's a good question, tho.
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When a rom is release an OP comes with it where bugs known are said from the get go. As for bug reported devs are fine with them as long as logs are attached and they are real bugs and not just "I want a better theme" or "how do I install this rom".
As for flaming, it's actually a rule that we can't do this to one another on xda.
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With posts like this, why even try?
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With posts like this, why even try?
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Yup I don't think people appreciate the time put in. And the reason we get early releases is because we all want something new, and we can help bug test. But eh.
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Eric, what if we say "no offense " before we flame someone... Then it's cool right?
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Eric, what if we say "no offense " before we flame someone... Then it's cool right?
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Nope, if you read my posts I'm not flaming the guy but I am sharing my view on this. I haven't insulted the OP but like him shared my view on why roms get released early and why we don't get final builds.
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Oh
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Oh
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Lmao now idk if you're trying to imply something on me or you're being genuine lol
But yea we all have our opinions but this kind of thread discourages devs and before we get a troll saying that's a lie just look up and you'll see thomas(a dev) doensnt like this.
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Don't get me wrong. I appreciate all dev work even if it's "unfinished" or w/e. Is just that this kind of discussion has been around since the beginning and people knew this phone ain't easy. Not trying to discourage any further development.
Lol, I'm just being extremely sarcastic, dude should try fb's vb by raver, that thing is tits!
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