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After a bunch of ROMS with near Zero support for WiFi Calling/MMS, Im left with no choice but to go back to stock as TMO has no coverage in my community.
The closest I've gotten is by "RELOCKING" the bootloader and trying to load the latest stock rom, but I get this error;
Hboot version is older! Update Fail! Press <power> to reboot.
Any ideas?
You could always run Bulletproof, MikTouch, or Undeads Expresso. They are all based on stock (MikTouch is the latest and is basically stock). This will allow you to pull nandroids and back up your apps using the root required apps that are available. I don't remember the stock ROMs doing MMS over wifi but if they did those ROMs would do it too.
I have no advice for getting back to stock other than using the search fcn. Then again I don't see what the point is in going back when there are ROMs that do everything the stock one does and more.
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Warranty Return
I would like to know how to return to factory-delivered S-ON. I've read that many people return HTC phones S-Offed and unlocked and such, with no issue, but I still prefer to put it back to factory condition. I had a digitizer hardware failure completely unrelated to ROMs and I don't want to give them any reason to snub their noses at me.
I've gotten the phone back to a factory ROM but when I go into bootloader it says "*** RELOCKED ***" (kinda like, "we know what you did last summer"). Anyone know how to get back to the original locked state?
I'm currently S-ON, never S-Offed. Was rooted, and fastboot flashed my kernels and recovery flashed my ROMs, and to return to stock ROM I used the PG59IMG.ZIP from November 2011. The 1.55 one. It wouldn't let me do the 1.28 one.
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I would like to know how to return to factory-delivered S-ON. I've read that many people return HTC phones S-Offed and unlocked and such, with no issue, but I still prefer to put it back to factory condition. I had a digitizer hardware failure completely unrelated to ROMs and I don't want to give them any reason to snub their noses at me.
I've gotten the phone back to a factory ROM but when I go into bootloader it says "*** RELOCKED ***" (kinda like, "we know what you did last summer"). Anyone know how to get back to the original locked state?
I'm currently S-ON, never S-Offed. Was rooted, and fastboot flashed my kernels and recovery flashed my ROMs, and to return to stock ROM I used the PG59IMG.ZIP from November 2011. The 1.55 one. It wouldn't let me do the 1.28 one.
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If you'll go to This Thread & scroll down to the HBoot section I have a link to the OTA HBoots that were sent by TMobile that match your build. Two of them look like they would probably match your issue (not positive which one). Both being OTA they have to be the signed ones and would most likely give you a "Locked" bootloader. Good Luck.
I thought I had an OTA, and flashing it returned me to stock build with stock apps and no root, but didn't return the bootloader to the factory state. I'll download one of these that matches and maybe have better luck?
Are these supposed to relock the bootloader?
Also, there is an "HTC Update" available when I go on wifi and check. I should avoid using that, right?
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Turns out, there are three OTAs I found (I couldn't find your handle there specifically, but I found the OTA links) and I have the middle one. The kernel, the HBoot version, and the radio all match up byte for byte.
And just to be clear (I think you know what I'm doing, just making sure), going S-ON isn't what I need, as I never was S-OFF. I had the HTCDev-unlocked bootloader and upon relocking it, it says "Relocked" like a tattletale. Does T-Mo care if that's even on the phone as far as warranty goes?
From everything I heard, they couldn't care less since it was provided by HTC in the first place. I returned my last one with S-Off and all they did was check the little tattletail moisture dot. Had a new one in 3 days.
Yeah, I understood you were just looking to get a "locked" header again that's why I kinda figured the OTA HBoot would get you there. It did everyone that accidently took the OTA when they were already S-Off and they ended up Locked, S-On with the 1.45.xxx HBoot and had to do the wire trick to get back to where they were before. I DO think you're worrying about something you don't need to though.
Just flash a PG59IMG.zip via bootloader if you really want to unroot.
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From everything I heard, they couldn't care less [...] I returned my last one with S-Off and all they did was check the little tattletail moisture dot. [...] It did everyone that accidently took the OTA when they were already S-Off and they ended up Locked, S-On with the 1.45.xxx HBoot and had to do the wire trick to get back to where they were before. I DO think you're worrying about something you don't need to though.
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Okay, then I shall quit worrying about it. Thanks!
I'll go ahead and download the HTC update then, too, just to see what it does. Since I'm not keeping this particular phone anyway... Before I do, I'll say, I expect it not to go back to locked because if they're going to go through the trouble of making it tattle like that in the first place, they'll check for that particular tattle in the updates and not reset that part of it. But I could be wrong. Lemme OTA update this thing and see what happens! :highfive:
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Congratulations! My phone has been updated successfully to version 1.63.531.2 710RD. Sys Info says radio is 11.59.3504.00_11.16.3504.20_2. Seems to match the latest offering here.
Okay, let's reboot to bootloader and see what it says.
Nope, still "*** RELOCKED ***". Oh well, no biggie.
Those stinkers! LOL. You were right. I guess they're just not going to allow us the cover THOSE footprints. I sure do appreciate the feedback!
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Those stinkers! LOL. You were right. I guess they're just not going to allow us the cover THOSE footprints. I sure do appreciate the feedback!
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I figured this was coming. I've said for months that HTC is starting to adopt crApple's business model, and now they're starting to sell phones with no replaceable battery and no SD slot in addition to no hardware keyboard (the One series).
Sent from Spaceball One.
Yep. In my searching around here, someone was asking how it was done that e.g. Revolutionary and Juopunutbear were able to change their banners. If there were a tool or method for that, I'd consider it, but since HTC and T-Mo don't seem to care (and since I have a hardware issue and I never messed with anything that could have damaged that particular piece of hardware) I'm really no longer worried about it.
I've been on Google+ too much lately. I keep wanting to +1 the posts I agree with.
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I figured this was coming. I've said for months that HTC is starting to adopt crApple's business model, and now they're starting to sell phones with no replaceable battery and no SD slot in addition to no hardware keyboard (the One series).
Sent from Spaceball One.
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BOY! They're sure going to loose alot of support if they start adopting those ideas! And I'd not even heard about the "no replaceable battery" issue. That alone will cause me to jump ship considering the lousy battery they insist on using. I'm not about to buy one of those car batteries to hang off my belt so I can make phone calls in the afternoon PLUS I just don't trust a car charger after I cooked my CrackBerry on one.
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Yep. In my searching around here, someone was asking how it was done that e.g. Revolutionary and Juopunutbear were able to change their banners. If there were a tool or method for that, I'd consider it, but since HTC and T-Mo don't seem to care (and since I have a hardware issue and I never messed with anything that could have damaged that particular piece of hardware) I'm really no longer worried about it.
I've been on Google+ too much lately. I keep wanting to +1 the posts I agree with.
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This is just a guess on my part but I ASSUME that a person would have to decompile the code for that particulat HBoot then find the area that the graphics for the banner is contained in, then with a hex editor change the text that it displys then recompile it again. BUT.....I'm no programmer either.
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BOY! They're sure going to loose alot of support if they start adopting those ideas! And I'd not even heard about the "no replaceable battery" issue. That alone will cause me to jump ship considering the lousy battery they insist on using. I'm not about to buy one of those car batteries to hang off my belt so I can make phone calls in the afternoon PLUS I just don't trust a car charger after I cooked my CrackBerry on one.
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I didn't believe it until I had a coworker's brand-new One S in my hand. My first question was "how do you change the battery in this thing?" Then I looked it up and saw that you actually had to take the phone apart for that.
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I didn't believe it until I had a coworker's brand-new One S in my hand. My first question was "how do you change the battery in this thing?" Then I looked it up and saw that you actually had to take the phone apart for that.
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GEEZE! What are they afraid of? Someone will put one in that doesn't overheat the cpu & kill it prematurely?
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I didn't believe it until I had a coworker's brand-new One S in my hand. My first question was "how do you change the battery in this thing?" Then I looked it up and saw that you actually had to take the phone apart for that.
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The HTC EVO LTE is the same way with the battery. A buddy of mine got a brand new one when they came out and shortly later it hard bricked overnight on charge and was replaced with a refurb. So this is the crap we are gonna have to start dealing with from HTC.
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The HTC EVO LTE is the same way with the battery. A buddy of mine got a brand new one when they came out and shortly later it hard bricked overnight on charge and was replaced with a refurb. So this is the crap we are gonna have to start dealing with from HTC.
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"We" are not dealing with this. If Samsung keeps coming out with slider phones with high-end specs like the Relay I won't be dealing with HTC's bulls**t.
If this is the path that HTC has chosen for their future then they are well on their way to becoming the Hasbeen Telephone Corporation.
@BlackKnightAvalon: Fully agreed.
If I may go further OT for a moment here, this nonsense about hermetically sealing the phones together reminded me of shopping for the G1.
See, back then, I made a list of things I required in a phone. It was to be my first phone, one I would pay for myself (instead of using someone else's old hand-me-down they no longer were using). My now wife at the time had the old Sidekick LX, which while not a smartphone by today's standards opened my eyes to a realm of possibilities beyond handheld computers like the Palm and iPaqs. I had a personal cheapie freebie Nokia bar phone, and my work phone was the top of the line version of the same form factor. Then work provided me with a flip about the same time my wife upgraded from her flip to a Sidekick. So at the time, I had her flip, and it was more than I needed. But the work flip, being a motorola, was hackable, by design. I was able to put my own sounds, ringtones, bootup sequence graphics, all that into it. So I knew what I wanted.
My list included a few things:
Be Linux based or at least open source so I could hack it to suit my tastes (I was thinking more along the lines of theming)
Be GSM so I can swap SIMs when I need to (if another phone borks, and I want to loan them mine without giving out *my* number to everyone...)
have a qwerty keyboard and not just a number pad (I hadn't considered the possibility of a touchscreen keyboard)
have a camera
have a standard USB charging port
have Internet capability (back then this wasn't on every phone you could buy)
have wifi
GPS was a plus, but not a requisite
Bluetooth was a plus
And a whole slew of other things, but basically, the G1 satisfied that list and more.
Because of iPhone and now HTC practices, I'm now forced to add a few things to that list, and I'm not sure my next phone won't be a Samsung. I really hate the bluish hue of the AMOLEDs, but it may be worth it. Depending on whether Google can bring Motorola out of crapzone I might consider a moto. Anyway, the new list will include all of the old one, plus:
Removable battery of at least 1800mAH rating
PHYSICAL keyboard -- my MT4GS just proved the need for that, though admittedly if the screen wasn't a slider the cable inside might not have failed
PHYSICAL Call Start/Stop buttons a definite plus, almost a requirement
REMOVABLE media
Headphone jack
TV Out, whether HDMI (MHL/microUSB) or composite (headphone jack)
For that matter, digital TV OTA receive and low-power transmit
FM Radio receive, preferably transmit
HD Screen
1.5GHz+ dual+ core
Doodooflinger capable
2-meter and 70-cm Amateur Radio band capable, a definite plus (should be not too difficult to do methinks and would help for those times when I'm out of signal in the mountains). The 33- and 23-cm amateur bands should be easy enough to come into, at the very least.
Satellite TV dish aiming
Dishwasher autoloader
... ?
EDIT: Add Police scanner and aircraft band receive...
Clearly, I have raised the bar by which I will judge handset manufacturers.
I'm not joking about that amateur radio bit. That's some serious geek creds waitin' to happen right there.
But yeah, back on-topic, I think I'm okay with HTC / T-Mo knowing I rooted the phone, as long as they don't start holding software choices against me in the realm of hardware failure. After all, I know the difference, and nothing I've done with the software had any bearing on their hardware breaking down before designed lifespan is up.
Here's something to be sure NOT to include:
Genius button
.com/www. button
duplicated buttons from the faceplate on the slideout keyboard
similar stupidity
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[*]PHYSICAL keyboard -- my MT4GS just proved the need for that, though admittedly if the screen wasn't a slider the cable inside might not have failed
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I'll risk a failed cable
( neither of my doubleshots have that problem - my original one has slid the keyboard in/out in the terminal command cycle so much words simply can't express the heightened level of wear it's suffered through...consider how much dev i've done on the device...)
Over a worthless, aggravating, real-estate stealing, non-feeling, spelling error making (chrome-dome, etc...etc... - enter tin-tin)
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Seriously, my spelling and grammer have dropped significantly. I pretty much only type in landscape because portrait is just impossible.
I've gotten to the point where I just let some go through in defeat, simply because I have to edit EVERY OTHER WORD on this worthless S3.
The bigger screen is nice, but losing the feel of individual buttons pretty much guarantees what you intend to type is only a close approximation of what appears on the screen at the best of times.
From now on I am either going to have to figure out how to get one of my doubleshots back on service that reaches nowhere, usa like the verizon S3 does, or move on to some qwerty device "the network" can handle.
I mean, my professional image is being held hostage by a lack of proper hardware. Sometimes I may only have a minute, maybe two at the most to snap out a reply.
So either I send something that looks so unprofessional I might have been better off just not sending it and forging a reputation for being unreliable, or preserve the respect of those above me in my company as far as the grasp of language goes and embrace that horrid representation of myself as someone who couldn't be bothered to respond to someone who needed my response.
Seriously, I don't have time to turn on bluetooth and connect s keyboard, even if I could carry it on shift, and then deal with keeping it powered too on top of it.
I sure can't talk-to-text when talking about a client within earshot, amongst a variety of other situations where the information i'm conveying is confidential to the people around me
I'm really not liking losing the keyboard, it's literally and solely ruined my android experience by making me dislike to the point of _hate having to input textual data. Be it commands or communication I see having to do so as a chore, one I hate, one I can't stand and annoys the living .... outta me.
It makes trying to work on the device downright scary, if not the equivalent of playing russian roulette. When the result of spelling errors in your command can have disastrous results, 10 times out of 10 I abstain. So here I sit with a device i'm afraid to hack on because I know i'll miss catching something stupid and wreck it.
To be quite blunt - having to fix every other word, if not every word for the majority of all of this reply has taken gargantuan strength not to snap the phone in half on my steering wheel. If I wasn't nestled in the depth of a valley located in a state park miles from any kind of civilization, i've freakin had it with this and this just could've been that time.
This S3 owes nature big time.
I'll never own an android phone without a hardware keyboard again, and being required to have a smartphone for my job will see me end up rocking froyo or something if it comes to it.
Sorry for all the hate, but really passionate about this. The S3 has become my most hated and aggravating electronic device i've ever owned. I'll never get another like it.
Quick question.
I got a warranty exchange last week BUT, turns out the cursed headphone jack does not work on the "new" replacement plus the camera has a circular area where its a tint of red, not too noticeable tho. i want to return it to stock even with a relocked bootloader but i was wondering, since i have a backup of the stock rom (which is what im restoring to on nandroid right now), can i just relock the bootloader or do i have to flash the PG591IMG.zip?
I am confused because I recently read the pinned thread that had all of the worst and best apps. It listed NvFlash under the apps to avoid because it said it caused boot loops, is this true? Also, I was wondering how risky it is to flash twrp and cm10? I just need to be sure because unlocking the bootloader will void my warranty and ASUS would charge me $300.00 to repair it.
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I am confused because I recently read the pinned thread that had all of the worst and best apps. It listed NvFlash under the apps to avoid because it said it caused boot loops, is this true? Also, I was wondering how risky it is to flash twrp and cm10? I just need to be sure because unlocking the bootloader will void my warranty and ASUS would charge me $300.00 to repair it.
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The risk level depends on many factors, one of which is the technical status of your 700 -- that's something only you can observe and decide.
If technically sound, the risk is minimal, but certainly not 0% -- there is no way to "just be sure". Either take the plunge and face the 300 dollar bill risk, or run stock. On the one hand, you think you can break AES encryption on the unlock tool and are actively fooling around with that, and on the other... well... let's just say I have a mental image of a trembling, very sad-looking, totally dunking wet, little rabbit.
MartyHulskemper said:
The risk level depends on many factors, one of which is the technical status of your 700 -- that's something only you can observe and decide.
If technically sound, the risk is minimal, but certainly not 0% -- there is no way to "just be sure". Either take the plunge and face the 300 dollar bill risk, or run stock. On the one hand, you think you can break AES encryption on the unlock tool and are actively fooling around with that, and on the other... well... let's just say I have a mental image of a trembling, very sad-looking, totally dunking wet, little rabbit.
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Ok, are there any very detailed guides? If so can you point me in that direction.
Hello,
I just got the tf700 and thinking of unlocking and installing a cleanROM. By the way I got a Samsung note tab as well, to compare and keep one of the two. The screen on the Asus has decided the winner for me. BUT it is very annoying how slow the tablet is compared to the Samsung. From what I've read, cleanROM should fix that. Before proceeding though and losing my warranty, I would like to make sure that there aren't any hardware issues that can't be fixed and therefore justify returning the tablet.
* I checked for light bleed, there is very little, barely noticeable only at boot time and it doesn't bother me at all.
* I see the occasional black line for a split second. I upgraded to jb almost immediately after I got the tablet and don't know if it would happen on ics. Is it 100% sure that it's a software issue and it's fixed with cleanROM?
* battery seems to be draining fast and Wi-Fi is always top of the list in usage. Also Wi-Fi seems to be dropping occasionally, not too bad but certainly performing worse than a lot of other devices in the house.
* anything else?
thanks!
Anyone? Also, it occasionally resets. Last two times it happened when I tried to launch an app from the home screen (last one was the stock browser), the screen went all white with one thin black line across the short end of the tablet very close to the edge (not the same poison that the black line flash appears). This white screen stayed there for a few seconds during which time I couldn't do anything, the tablet was frozen, until it eventually reset itself. The Asus logo mentioning "persistent perfection"appeared, which I found ironic to say the least.
So the question is: is this hardware (in which case I should return it for a replacement) or software related (solved by cleanrom)?
airmark said:
the screen went all white with one thin black line across the short end of the tablet very close to the edge
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I know this effect, it occasionally happened to me too.
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The Asus logo mentioning "persistent perfection"appeared, which I found ironic to say the least.
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I thought about the same.
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So the question is: is this hardware (in which case I should return it for a replacement) or software related (solved by cleanrom)?
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Unknown if hardware or software, but it's not an isolated issue on only your tablet. Not solved by CleanROM.
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Unknown if hardware or software, but it's not an isolated issue on only your tablet. Not solved by CleanROM.
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Does it happen to all tablets or only some? In other words, is it a QC issue that justifies returning it for a replacement?
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Does it happen to all tablets or only some? In other words, is it a QC issue that justifies returning it for a replacement?
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I don't know if all tablets are affected, but it definitely affects more than a few: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798217
If you can still return it, consider returning it and keeping the Note. Whatever you do, keep in mind that both tablets will age quickly - we will see much better devices next year.
I'm a new TF700 user and have not yet experienced the black line or any reboots yet. I do have light bleed as mentioned above that I have only noticed at boot when the screen is very bright, then it dims slightly for the balance of the boot process and looks fine. Though the boot does take longer than I would expect.
The only other thing I have noticed is the screen click every once in a while, and only after reading about online... Hopefully it goes away as some say or at least doesn't get any worse.
I'm rooted but still locked until I know all is good. So far I love this tablet, much more than the Prime I had briefly before returning. Boy was that a disappointment, more so as I ordered it in November last year and didn't receive it until mid January.
Now I'm trying to figure out if I can safely apply the pestering OTA and still keep root with rootkeeper. It seems like some have lost root and I'm a little concerned. I'm on 9.4.5.26.
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I don't know if all tablets are affected, but it definitely affects more than a few: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798217
If you can still return it, consider returning it and keeping the Note. Whatever you do, keep in mind that both tablets will age quickly - we will see much better devices next year.
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Thanks for that link. People there say that it happens only in JB, which would indicate a software issue. I wonder if it's worth waiting for a fix.
Regarding the Note, it's good, fast, etc. but the screen sucks compared to the Asus. When you read a webpage with small text you can see the difference immediately. As I intend to use the tablet as a reading/browsing device I hate to have to zoom in every time, I prefer to have clear text without zooming in (and hold the tablet closer to my eyes to be able to read the smaller text).
Agree on that they will both age quickly (as all electronics). I'm fine with that, as long as they perform well now. Which doesn't seem to be the case
Also, the black line, can anyone confirm whether it's fixed with cleanROM?
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Now I'm trying to figure out if I can safely apply the pestering OTA and still keep root with rootkeeper. It seems like some have lost root and I'm a little concerned. I'm on 9.4.5.26.
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If you plan to unlock and install custom ROMs on your tablet, it would be better to wait with the updates so that you can create the blobs for nvflash after unlocking. As soon as you upgrade past 9.4.5.26, you will forever lose the opportunity to do this.
If you never intend to unlock, then just use OTA rootkeeper. In the worst case (if you do anything wrong), if you lose root, you can downgrade to 9.4.5.30 and re-root.
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If you plan to unlock and install custom ROMs on your tablet, it would be better to wait with the updates so that you can create the blobs for nvflash after unlocking. As soon as you upgrade past 9.4.5.26, you will forever lose the opportunity to do this.
If you never intend to unlock, then just use OTA rootkeeper. In the worst case (if you do anything wrong), if you lose root, you can downgrade to 9.4.5.30 and re-root.
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Thank you. Is nvflash the equivalent of a nand backup on rooted phones?
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Thank you. Is nvflash the equivalent of a nand backup on rooted phones?
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nvflash allows you to read or write arbitrary partitions or block ranges on the eMMC, and the "server" software for that is in the boot ROM, so it cannot be overwritten.
The meaning of "NAND backup" has changed a bit in the past years - I think back in the early days when nandroid backups were really block-level images of the flash memory, then yes, nvflash can do something comparable.
So, I've spent a couple of months with the ASUS TF700T and its keyboard dock. Time to rant about things I don't like.
1) Startup time. Cold boot takes more than a minute. This is truly sad when Windows 8 Ultrabooks and Macbooks boot in seconds. Slower processor based android phones also boot faster. Why ASUS? What are you doing in this minute?
2) Critical Bugs. By that I mean glitches that cause the tablet to hang, randomly reboot or randomly shutdown. It's not hot. It's not being used for hours. It just crashes the kernel. It should NOT do that ASUS. I don't need that. Crash the app if you have to, not the whole tablet! Similarly with hot-plugging the dock sometimes.
3) Non-critical Bugs. That refers to little things that don't really affect productivity with the tablet but are driving me (and many others) insane.
a) What is this graphics card driver / whatever else issue that causes the random black lines to flicker on the screen at random intervals? What are these lines? ASUS, you can definitely reproduce this. This is not found on any other android device that I own (Samsung and HTC phones and tablets mainly). I realise it may not be a big deal (stuff does not crash at least), but this is a £500 tablet. This should not be an issue. Really.
b) What is wrong with the keyboard driver? Why do I need an independent app (External Keyboard Helper) to enjoy my hardware keyboard dock that you charge £100? How can this guy make such a great app, with no issues with dead keys (you know what I mean - greek 'tonos' or accent), and you, ASUS, after breaking this functionality on Jelly Bean, can't find a fix? Buy his keyboard and bundle it with your tablets, that's my answer. Give up on this ridiculous "ASUS Keyboard". It's a joke needing a separate keyboard for every language, particularly one that does not work properly. Use Google's standard. Use Hacker's Keyboard from the market (free!). Use Swype. Whatever.
4) Missing features. You give us a tablet with a hardware keyboard having a USB slot. What do people use USB for? No, it's not to plug in a keyboard. It's probably not to plug in a mouse either. External storage maybe, but less so in this cloud-ridden world where everything is on Dropbox.
Charging their phones is what they will use it for. Their iPhones, Androids and whatever. Why can't we do that with the tablet screen off ASUS? Is Apple smarter and they can code the Macbook Air circuitry better? Is this not something people want? I may not need 18h of tablet time - just a charge for my phone. Why should I need to keep the tablet on for that?
5) A 3G / 4G / whatever model, priced competitively. I know I can tether. I'd like to save myself the trouble, and my phone's battery since it is so damn difficult to charge with the built in dock anyway. It's not that hard, it will let carriers offer your tablet as a bundle, it will make you money. The iPad does it, Samsung does it. The only tablets that don't do it are Amazon's - and there are 3G Kindles out there.
5 things. Can you fix them?
Note that stuff like "my generation 1 iPad browses and reads email faster" and "X phone / tablet costing half as much is on 4.2.2 already" and "why should I need to void my warranty to install custom ROMs" are left out here. I don't particularly care about these.
I think the TF700T is an amazing feat of engineering. An incredible, sharp screen, a great form factor, a good looking set with the dock keyboard. But I'm sorry, I'm a guy who regularly forks out £600 on tablets or gadgets and my next tablet will be an iPad or a Samsung or a Kindle. It's just not worth it. I have no patience anymore, because I know that I can get my work done more efficiently with a 3rd party external keyboard and any other tablet. Heck, I can even get a phone, a keyboard and a HDMI screen for the money, and even run Ubuntu more stably.
PS: I am posting this on every android forum I know, just in case find a solution for some of these problems...
This has to be the worst post i have ever seen on the tf700 thread...
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This has to be the worst post i have ever seen on the tf700 thread...
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Agreed. I did however respond to it when posted in Transformer Forums but this person never replied to anything that people have commented on it.
Tylor
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giatros said:
So, I've spent a couple of months with the ASUS TF700T and its keyboard dock. Time to rant about things I don't like.
1) Startup time. Cold boot takes more than a minute. This is truly sad when Windows 8 Ultrabooks and Macbooks boot in seconds. Slower processor based android phones also boot faster. Why ASUS? What are you doing in this minute?
2) Critical Bugs. By that I mean glitches that cause the tablet to hang, randomly reboot or randomly shutdown. It's not hot. It's not being used for hours. It just crashes the kernel. It should NOT do that ASUS. I don't need that. Crash the app if you have to, not the whole tablet! Similarly with hot-plugging the dock sometimes.
3) Non-critical Bugs. That refers to little things that don't really affect productivity with the tablet but are driving me (and many others) insane.
a) What is this graphics card driver / whatever else issue that causes the random black lines to flicker on the screen at random intervals? What are these lines? ASUS, you can definitely reproduce this. This is not found on any other android device that I own (Samsung and HTC phones and tablets mainly). I realise it may not be a big deal (stuff does not crash at least), but this is a £500 tablet. This should not be an issue. Really.
b) What is wrong with the keyboard driver? Why do I need an independent app (External Keyboard Helper) to enjoy my hardware keyboard dock that you charge £100? How can this guy make such a great app, with no issues with dead keys (you know what I mean - greek 'tonos' or accent), and you, ASUS, after breaking this functionality on Jelly Bean, can't find a fix? Buy his keyboard and bundle it with your tablets, that's my answer. Give up on this ridiculous "ASUS Keyboard". It's a joke needing a separate keyboard for every language, particularly one that does not work properly. Use Google's standard. Use Hacker's Keyboard from the market (free!). Use Swype. Whatever.
4) Missing features. You give us a tablet with a hardware keyboard having a USB slot. What do people use USB for? No, it's not to plug in a keyboard. It's probably not to plug in a mouse either. External storage maybe, but less so in this cloud-ridden world where everything is on Dropbox.
Charging their phones is what they will use it for. Their iPhones, Androids and whatever. Why can't we do that with the tablet screen off ASUS? Is Apple smarter and they can code the Macbook Air circuitry better? Is this not something people want? I may not need 18h of tablet time - just a charge for my phone. Why should I need to keep the tablet on for that?
5) A 3G / 4G / whatever model, priced competitively. I know I can tether. I'd like to save myself the trouble, and my phone's battery since it is so damn difficult to charge with the built in dock anyway. It's not that hard, it will let carriers offer your tablet as a bundle, it will make you money. The iPad does it, Samsung does it. The only tablets that don't do it are Amazon's - and there are 3G Kindles out there.
5 things. Can you fix them?
Note that stuff like "my generation 1 iPad browses and reads email faster" and "X phone / tablet costing half as much is on 4.2.2 already" and "why should I need to void my warranty to install custom ROMs" are left out here. I don't particularly care about these.
I think the TF700T is an amazing feat of engineering. An incredible, sharp screen, a great form factor, a good looking set with the dock keyboard. But I'm sorry, I'm a guy who regularly forks out £600 on tablets or gadgets and my next tablet will be an iPad or a Samsung or a Kindle. It's just not worth it. I have no patience anymore, because I know that I can get my work done more efficiently with a 3rd party external keyboard and any other tablet. Heck, I can even get a phone, a keyboard and a HDMI screen for the money, and even run Ubuntu more stably.
PS: I am posting this on every android forum I know, just in case find a solution for some of these problems...
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1)startup time : i never shutdown my tab unless thete is no battery so i use the startup very few times and my lifespan is long enough (around 80 years) to wait for 1mn for a non-critical device to start
2)critical bugs : i don't have any. My tab nearly never crash (4 times since august). Maybe you have a broken tab (use your warranty to change it) or maybe you installed bad-quality applications and apply some customization and parameters not very clever...
3)non-critical bugs : i have some but they don't drive me insane and most of them are app related, not from the tab or asus. And anyway remember that nothing perfect exists and you also are doing mistakes in your own job...
4)missing features : you complain that there is a usb port ? It's one of the best reason to buy that tab ! You say the cloub is here but people don't alluse the cloud and on it the capacity is small (few Gb while my external disk has 1 Tb). And you can't put your photo to the cloud without a computer like that tab to connect your camera and extract your photos.
5)3G/4G : a 3G model exist TF700TG. 4G does not exist but it's normal as 4G was not ready when that tab was designed and put to stores. And at that time, there was NO tab with 4G (even the ipad, the 4G version arrived few months later)
PS : You post on every forum ? I call that spam and i know that will not answer to most of all the answers you will get in all these forums. Question : why don't you post that to world-wide newspapers, maybe the UN could decide of resolution against asus to ask them to meet your expectations ?
Please buy an ipad or whatever you prefer and don't bother us anymore with your poor man complains.
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Wait did he just criticse the tablet for having a USB port. I use the USB for external storage...
Thanks for all your comments, some have been helpful.
I realise that I wasn't very clear on what I said about the USB port. I really like it. I think it should be there. I have adapters for my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 and my Galaxy Note, (MHL) which I mainly use to connect USB keyboards or thumb drives, or SD readers.
The rant is that there is no constant power to the USB. When the tablet screen locks, USB loses power: thus you can't charge a phone for 10 minutes in your backpack when walking. This is possible with a MacBook Air (that I end up carrying around for this purpose).
Startup time is important, at least to me. It is a major selling point for Mac OS X and Windows 8. People don't want to wait when their gadgets load, that's what I think. Computers do have sleep mode as well (and sadly, they wake up faster from sleep than the Transformer!!!).
I have an iPad as well, generation 1, jailbroken, loaded with 64GB of stuff. The OS must have crashed once or twice in years. Heck, I've even managed to crash a Kindle 3 once in 3 years. I can live with that. But the TF crashes at least once a week. I believe that not that many people experience this issue, so I will RMA mine and hope for the best.
I was not aware there is a 3G version. I have not seen it on sale anywhere. After a lot of googling I realised it's the TF700KL (and it's 4G LTE, which is nice).
Thanks again and sorry if this did not apply to you.
What are you doing to crash it. Even on stock 4.2 I dont remember it crashing?
giatros said:
The rant is that there is no constant power to the USB. When the tablet screen locks, USB loses power: thus you can't charge a phone for 10 minutes in your backpack when walking. This is possible with a MacBook Air (that I end up carrying around for this purpose).
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You are carrying around a MacBook Air only to charge your phone?
giatros said:
Startup time is important, at least to me. It is a major selling point for Mac OS X and Windows 8. People don't want to wait when their gadgets load, that's what I think. Computers do have sleep mode as well (and sadly, they wake up faster from sleep than the Transformer!!!).
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The only time when startup time is important for me is after it crashed again. Otherwise I leave the tablet in standby mode, and it wakes up in a second whenever I need it.
I agree that all these issues exist and are annoying more or less, but you won't ever find a perfect device - all have their quirks. For me, the only real defect from your 5 points is that it really crashes from time to time.
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You are carrying around a MacBook Air only to charge your phone?
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It does work
Standalone batteries are less efficient (plus I forget to charge them)
I have found myself carrying an iPad to tether everything else to sometimes...
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The only time when startup time is important for me is after it crashed again. Otherwise I leave the tablet in standby mode, and it wakes up in a second whenever I need it.
I agree that all these issues exist and are annoying more or less, but you won't ever find a perfect device - all have their quirks. For me, the only real defect from your 5 points is that it really crashes from time to time.
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Yes, crashing is the worst. Writing something and losing it is not nice. Even if it's just a paragraph, it's a waste of time.
I have hopes for a perfect device! One that does what I need and is stable enough. I-devices work, most android phones work, Macs work, PCs work, kindles work - why should this be different?
giatros said:
It does work
Standalone batteries are less efficient (plus I forget to charge them)
I have found myself carrying an iPad to tether everything else to sometimes...
Yes, crashing is the worst. Writing something and losing it is not nice. Even if it's just a paragraph, it's a waste of time.
I have hopes for a perfect device! One that does what I need and is stable enough. I-devices work, most android phones work, Macs work, PCs work, kindles work - why should this be different?
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My tablet only crashes when trying to download torrents. If I dont attempt to download torrents, then I dont have any crashes. Though the beta version of CROMIX I had a game crash once but that is expected on beta and hasnt crashed since.
Tylor
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My tab has crashed a very few times and each time it was while playing a game that was heavely using the GPU/CPU. Maybe your tab has a hardware defect but before sending it back with rma, try a factory reset wich will put back your tab to original configuration (it means you loose your data if you don't save them elsewhere).
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A factory reset is good, but it can ALSO be a system file corrupted, in which I suggest you factory reset, reflash 4.2.1, then another factory reset.
Tylor
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While I do not agree with the OP totally but at least for some parts.
What I don't understand is that people keep defending ASUS as if they are not to blame.
Replies like "This is the worst post ever" I assume you are talking about your own post there.
The black lines are a complete no go for me, if you can't make a HD screen to work put in a low resolution screen, I would have skipped it and maybe be even happy with another tablet. Credits for apple's ipad for that, it is possible guys.
The keyboards menu button is only when your in an app, why is that? Why not in a launcher, where you use menu the most?
And then all these benchmarks, twice as fast as a htc one x, give me a break. My one x really blows away my TF700, it's about performance during the day, not just some numbers.
Installing a rom takes 3 times as long as on my one x...
Maybe it is because most asus fan people have an older smartphone with lower specs but owning a one x does not make things better for the infinity. ;0
The reason for me to keep it is because I bought it in NY for $600 that's about 430 euro incl. keyboard.
If I would have bought it here in Holland it would have been 600+ euro and I wouldn't accept this product as it is.
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J_Dutch said:
While I do not agree with the OP totally but at least for some parts.
What I don't understand is that people keep defending ASUS as if they are not to blame.
Replies like "This is the worst post ever" I assume you are talking about your own post there.
The black lines are a complete no go for me, if you can't make a HD screen to work put in a low resolution screen, I would have skipped it and maybe be even happy with another tablet. Credits for apple's ipad for that, it is possible guys.
The keyboards menu button is only when your in an app, why is that? Why not in a launcher, where you use menu the most?
And then all these benchmarks, twice as fast as a htc one x, give me a break. My one x really blows away my TF700, it's about performance during the day, not just some numbers.
Installing a rom takes 3 times as long as on my one x...
Maybe it is because most asus fan people have an older smartphone with lower specs but owning a one x does not make things better for the infinity. ;0
The reason for me to keep it is because I bought it in NY for $600 that's about 430 euro incl. keyboard.
If I would have bought it here in Holland it would have been 600+ euro and I wouldn't accept this product as it is.
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The TF700 out of the box is junk which is indeed only my personal preference. Many people have the stock device and are very happy with it. I also suggest people who compare a tablet with a keyboard to another, then type papers of a phone or a regular tablet without a keyboard and see how long it takes you. It is indeed ASUS fault for their bloated ROM, but if you use CromiX or Cyanogen Mod, It will blow any stock device out of the water. The black lines are no big deal, and dont occur when watching movies. I only see that when using Tapatalk or browsing, and it is rare. If you want a device out of the box go for a different device. The TF700 has gotten better with 4.2.1 as it fixed a lot typing application lag and such, but still dont compare to a un-bloated and tweaked ROM.
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
The TF700 out of the box is junk which is indeed only my personal preference. Many people have the stock device and are very happy with it. I also suggest people who compare a tablet with a keyboard to another, then type papers of a phone or a regular tablet without a keyboard and see how long it takes you. It is indeed ASUS fault for their bloated ROM, but if you use CromiX or Cyanogen Mod, It will blow any stock device out of the water. The black lines are no big deal, and dont occur when watching movies. I only see that when using Tapatalk or browsing, and it is rare. If you want a device out of the box go for a different device. The TF700 has gotten better with 4.2.1 as it fixed a lot typing application lag and such, but still dont compare to a un-bloated and tweaked ROM.
Tylor
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You are right about that, I have tweaked my One X. But on stock sense it's not far behind the tweaked Infinity.
And let's not forget the One X is even more expensive for me, so you get a lot of hardware for the money(at least what I paid for it)
The concept is brilliant, it's more that I'm slightly dissapointed cause if performance was wat is expected this device would have been the best ever, and I'm sure it could have been if asus at least would have done better I/O performance. But then again, will there ever be a perfect device?
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The thing is, I don't think the speed should be an issue. I don't play that many games (certainly not power-hungry ones), I don't download torrents on the TF700T.
I have been flashing custom ROMs on devices since my HTC Prophet - and custom ROMs are usually less stable than the factory ROM (they are faster and with more eye-candy). Why this is not the case here I don't know.
I like the tablet to read papers and books (mainly PDF, some ePub), this is why I wanted the high resolution screen.
Screen tearing when reading is distracting and very disappointing.
I try to write papers on the TF700T. I write some forum posts. But the problems there are
1) Can't use a reference manager - there is no cite as you write, or at least I haven't found one
2) Random crashing or flushing the app from memory causes loss of data
3) When I want to write in Greek, I HAVE to use a non-ASUS keyboard app as the ASUS keyboard does not let you put accents in since 4.2.1
The touchscreen is great for reading stuff, underlining etc. But this tablet is problematic; may be just my device (I hope). It certainly feels like a beta product.
I wanted to reinstall the OS as well, however ASUS seems to have pulled the 10.6.1.14.4 from their download site (I get file not found for http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/TF700T/TF700T_WW_epaduser_V1061144UpdateLauncher.zip )
I just wanted to say this:
There is a very noticeable issue with the Tegra 3's 4+1 processor setup that some things (recovery for example) do not handle too well and end up using that power saver core as the main core. For example, in TWRP, on my Droid RAZR the little slider to confirm something is very liquid, as is the loading bar's animation, but on the TF700T, it lags immensely.
That is the one issue I have with it. As far as Quadrant scores or benchmarks, mine have been all over the place even on CM10.1. It doesn't matter that on CROMI it can get a 10,000 if you can't switch between two apps in less than 10 seconds.
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With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty issues and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Actually, I would indeed. However, the TF700 stock is blah, you have to unlock the tablet to unleash its true potential. With ROMS like CyanogenMod and CromiX it makes it faster than a stock Nexus 7. But since it is about a year old It may be work to wait.
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
Actually, I would indeed. However, the TF700 stock is blah, you have to unlock the tablet to unleash its true potential. With ROMS like CyanogenMod and CromiX it makes it faster than a stock Nexus 7. But since it is about a year old It may be work to wait.
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Thanks, took the plunge it was hard not to at >300.
I would buy it again without hesitation.
The combo with the dock and CromiX is still atm unbeatable.
On travel with 15hrs batt time watching full hd movies, do 90% on it what I do on my laptop, the microsdcard, the sdcard in the dock, the usb slot, no other combo is available atm that can beat that. Period.
Is there more to say?
Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Congrats! Hope you can also find a great deal for the dock. From a productivity perspective, I would also buy it again-the keyboard and extra battery definitely puts the tablet above the rest in my opinion. From a multimedia perspective, I may have given more serious thought to Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 - I've heard it runs fairly smooth and having speakers in the front is a nice feature.
In a heartbeat.
Drenus said:
From a multimedia perspective, I may have given more serious thought to Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 - I've heard it runs fairly smooth and having speakers in the front is a nice feature.
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It really doesn't. I have a GT2 10.1, too, and it's utter rubbish. Sluggish, blurry, lags an awful lot... My TF700 on stock runs laps around the GT2 10.1.
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In a heartbeat.
It really doesn't. I have a GT2 10.1, too, and it's utter rubbish. Sluggish, blurry, lags an awful lot... My TF700 on stock runs laps around the GT2 10.1.
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Good to know I made the right decision with TF700! :good:
Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Probably not. While I haven't unlocked it yet, I did root it and for a while everything was great. Then ASUS pushed an update last December, I think, and from then on the tablet became the most frustrating I've ever used. Incredible lag (3 - 5 seconds for the menu to come up after tapping the lower right corner!!!) and other flaky behavior -- like root suddenly stopped working without my doing anything ... Voodoo showed it still rooted, but superuser was completely nonfunctional. Three reboots later root is working again (?!) and it's just back to being laggy.
I'll never buy another ASUS tablet again if they paid me.
mudge
P.S. I suppose I should unlock it and install a custom ROM one of these days ...
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Probably not. While I haven't unlocked it yet, I did root it and for a while everything was great. Then ASUS pushed an update last December, I think, and from then on the tablet became the most frustrating I've ever used. Incredible lag (3 - 5 seconds for the menu to come up after tapping the lower right corner!!!) and other flaky behavior -- like root suddenly stopped working without my doing anything ... Voodoo showed it still rooted, but superuser was completely nonfunctional. Three reboots later root is working again (?!) and it's just back to being laggy.
I'll never buy another ASUS tablet again if they paid me.
mudge
P.S. I suppose I should unlock it and install a custom ROM one of these days ...
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Truthfully have you tried a factory reset and such? I am unlocked but did install the stock 4.2.1 and I felt it ran really well, compared to 4.1.1 anyways, which is what was pushed in December. If you had your tablet for 10 months, or already unlocked but having flashed CromiX, you should definitely do so .
Also I agree with another posted above even though I already commented once . Today I was flashing files, modding, for about 7 hours straight. I didnt have dock on but I had it with me. When the tablet hit about 30%, I put the dock on to recharge that battery. By the time the dock was at 0%, the tablet was back at 75% Now, if you can get 7 hours on 70%, with dock adding back up to 3/4 battery, its an easy 12-14 hours of tablet. I doubt any tablet out there can do that . A friend had a HTC phone, forget exact version. He was playing it for maybe 3 hours and his phone was already half way dead, and he didnt have a backup battery either .
Tylor
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iCurmudgeon said:
Probably not. While I haven't unlocked it yet, I did root it and for a while everything was great. Then ASUS pushed an update last December, I think, and from then on the tablet became the most frustrating I've ever used. Incredible lag (3 - 5 seconds for the menu to come up after tapping the lower right corner!!!) and other flaky behavior -- like root suddenly stopped working without my doing anything ... Voodoo showed it still rooted, but superuser was completely nonfunctional. Three reboots later root is working again (?!) and it's just back to being laggy.
I'll never buy another ASUS tablet again if they paid me.
mudge
P.S. I suppose I should unlock it and install a custom ROM one of these days ...
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Unlock and all your problems will disappear. It's weird to think a third party can advance a tab better than the company's own developers, but they can tenfold.
No.
And I shouldn't have to massage it into acceptable working order by violating the warranty.
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No.
And I shouldn't have to massage it into acceptable working order by violating the warranty.
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A warranty that only fixes hardware issues, not software. The only way to actually get an acceptable ROM, to me anyways, is to unlock. I personally think 4.2.1 fresh runs great, however it is bloated, and the stock kernel could use some of _That's tweaking to make it acceptable, again personal opinion. And sbdags or dasunsrules, dont know if I spelled correct, will treat help you much more then ASUS will ever software wise.
Tylor
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No.
And I shouldn't have to massage it into acceptable working order by violating the warranty.
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It is what it is. If you're unhappy with it, you have three options: Take it back, keep it and endlessly complain about it, or flash a tweaked rom.
It does seem a wierd place to complain about it though, on forums where people have found the solution for all of us. People who have risked their warranties also for the benefit of everyone.. just saying.
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It is what it is. If you're unhappy with it, you have three options: Take it back, keep it and endlessly complain about it, or flash a tweaked rom.
It does seem a wierd place to complain about it though, on forums where people have found the solution for all of us. People who have risked their warranties also for the benefit of everyone.. just saying.
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After 1 or two months of use,if a problem doesnt occur, then more then likely no hardware problem will occur. If something happens, like a screen breaking, they will still place the blame on you. It is only a warranty from defects, not accidental use. So I dont even see the use after a couple months. Truthfully my screen has defects in it, but I live with it. It is not a HUGE dual and can only see it when the screen is off. So it dont actually effect the use of it while you are using it, so no sense in sending it in, and I unlocked knowing the defect, but it is a minor one. The bigger defect was the software ROM on it, but that is fixed .
Tylor
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Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Yes.
The ASUS TF700T worked fine out-of-the-box, but lagged with the stock ROM. Unlocking it and installing CleanROM Inheritance was the best thing I ever did.
There are two things that I wish it had out-of-the box. The first is a USB port and the second is a version with cellular data services.
I have the USB port adapter and love the fact that ASUS made it a powered USB port adapter, but having a true USB port would have been preferable.
There are times when I wish that I had cellular data services on it, in addition to WiFi. Most phones today have the ability to act as a hotspot, so it's not a big deal, but it would have been more convenient.
Yes. I've used it for university and the dock combo meant I've typed all my notes on ever note. I used it stock for 5 months and even then it was okay. Recently since the latest jb it got slower and so I got the bug for flashing customs. Never looked back since. Performance is amazing. Is quick, snappy, access apps quickly. Annoying it took to now to realise it but glad I did.
At the end of the day you use a tablet to use noted to look at. I'd rather get my moneys worth out of it than barely use it as its buggy etc.
If if breaks it breaks which I hope to god it doesn't. But already I used it and wasnt frustrated with it.
I love it. Which there were more accessories I.e a real smart cover but still love it. Tried the Samsung 10.2 and was awful compared. Resolution was horrid.
I'm sat in car on a long drive with this tethered to my phone loving life.
Just enjoy it. Use it.
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hell the F*ck No!
Should have bought a Ultra Book and a Kindle HD.
This thing cost me $750 with the keyboard.
and I prefer to use my ICS phone that's almost 2 yrs old for just about anything I can do with the tablet except videos.
It's totally laggy, and unusable if a app is updating in the background. Some websites take 30+ sec to load.
I've had more random reboots with this tablet then I've had in my entire life with Windows, and I go back to Win 3.1!
My take is: Asus is great at offering features and design, but they suck on execution for anything other than motherboards.
While I enjoy my tablet greatly I'm not sure I would recommend it. I'm one of the small number of people who for whatever reason, their tablets are unable to unlock using the unlocking tool. This renders me unable to experience what others are saying concerning flashing better roms to really make the tablet perform. I also can't get OTAs or user the device tracker. It's currently shipping back from RMA to fix some light bleed on the screen and the issue with the tablet being unable to get OTAs/device tracker to work. I just called and the service rep said the screen was replaced with a new one and all tests they ran on the system came back fine. He couldn't say if the main problem that concerned me of the tablet not communicating with the Asus servers was fixed but there should be a detailed report of what was done. If the unlock tool doesn't work fine, but the tablet should be able to receive any updates Asus releases from the moment it's turned on after purchase. I was fine running the stock rom with any bloatware turned off. Coming from the Prime, it is a smooth user experience for me. My day is not ruined if it takes an extra 3 seconds to open an application.
With the dock this tablet is truly remarkable. The extra battery and being able to type takes the device beyond other tablets in usage. Sure anyone can get a blue tooth keyboard but that is only going to drain the battery faster. It also has the usb port and full size sd-card slot. The screen is really nice and even though I have a anti-glare protector which does subtract from it's clear picture, it's still great.
The reason I wouldn't recommend it is the price and lack of support from some of the big game developers. This is supposed to be a top notch portable multimedia experience and with the gpu in it we shouldn't be stuck running games which are not fully using the hardware. Look around the forums as there are ways to side load the games on to the system but that doesn't mean they will all function properly. Concerning price, a person will end up dropping about $650-700 bucks after tax for the tablet dock combo. If I were to be buying a tablet again and what I've told two coworkers, I'd go for the TF300 line. Sure the screen is not as good but the tablet/dock combo comes out to about $500. Or I would hold out and see what summer tablets are lined up. So far I'm actually not impressed with what the manufactures have out now. I'm interested in seeing what Samsung's new Exynos processors can do in a tablet.
Enjoying my tab, arrived overnight refurbed for $291 pristene condition. Unfortunately it came updated and is on 4.2.1 the kernels 3.1.10, would of like to of tried it before the update and I believe the unlocking options are easier (still confirming). More testing to do before I can unlock what are the most popular\necessary tweaks?
Edit: nevermind this is thread I failed to find b4 asking http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1834521
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