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More Transfomer Touch Screen issues...

Just got my new TF700. Major, major touchscreen issues. But these are weird... At first it looked very much like hardware fault but the more I try and use it the more I think its software.
First off, the left hand side not as good as the right hand side. Its first turn on was not usable and its been getting little better as the hours go by. 2 days in now. Done the normal re format, drain battery and also got it warmed right up with a good turn off also. ( Elec Blanket worked great for this controlled warmup ) Nothing has made a direct impact as some others have claimed on the whole Transformer range.
Ive had to take a video of what's happening. I've turned the developer options on to indicate when the digitizer detects the touch and also the indicator when the system responses to this touch. There is clearly a delay in when the system reacts to my touch. But sadly not as clean cut as this as sometimes the digilazer doesn't even sense my touch. Notice the left hand side not as good but still does work sometimes.
http://youtu.be/aslnYafGLf0
To me there is clearly a software issue with this delay. The system response times vary's heaps especially with 10 point touches. But at other moments its not detecting my finger at all... Ive read a lot of TF101 firmware upgades have created touches not to get detected also. Still software going on here ?
My issues with Asus and repair .... I brought this from USA and brought it to New Zealand over night. Big risk yes but it does have the Asus international warranty. 2 days after the invoice date NZ has to say it can be a repair only. I understand NZ doesnt have this yet but this is a huge kick for me as the turn around time is 5 to 8 weeks to repair my 2 day old product. They will import a new screen in but not DOA on receipt date. That hurts Asus but what if its your firmware ? Could it be fixed by the firmware first ? Its nice having a RMA number already as the NZ guys are great but I dont want to be their first TF700 to pull apart as it will never be the same.
I dont feel I can root it to test it some more as they might run away from warranty. Im stuck.... My first Asus product not been a motherboard and not happy with the evidence in front of me guys, please help me out.

Holy crap, that is ridiculous! Dunno what it might be, but I would try PM-ing that vid link to one of the Asus guys on XDA.

Kezzainc said:
Just got my new TF700. Major, major touchscreen issues. But these are weird... At first it looked very much like hardware fault but the more I try and use it the more I think its software.
First off, the left hand side not as good as the right hand side. Its first turn on was not usable and its been getting little better as the hours go by. 2 days in now. Done the normal re format, drain battery and also got it warmed right up with a good turn off also. ( Elec Blanket worked great for this controlled warmup ) Nothing has made a direct impact as some others have claimed on the whole Transformer range.
Ive had to take a video of what's happening. I've turned the developer options on to indicate when the digitizer detects the touch and also the indicator when the system responses to this touch. There is clearly a delay in when the system reacts to my touch. But sadly not as clean cut as this as sometimes the digilazer doesn't even sense my touch. Notice the left hand side not as good but still does work sometimes.
http://youtu.be/aslnYafGLf0
To me there is clearly a software issue with this delay. The system response times vary's heaps especially with 10 point touches. But at other moments its not detecting my finger at all... Ive read a lot of TF101 firmware upgades have created touches not to get detected also. Still software going on here ?
My issues with Asus and repair .... I brought this from USA and brought it to New Zealand over night. Big risk yes but it does have the Asus international warranty. 2 days after the invoice date NZ has to say it can be a repair only. I understand NZ doesnt have this yet but this is a huge kick for me as the turn around time is 5 to 8 weeks to repair my 2 day old product. They will import a new screen in but not DOA on receipt date. That hurts Asus but what if its your firmware ? Could it be fixed by the firmware first ? Its nice having a RMA number already as the NZ guys are great but I dont want to be their first TF700 to pull apart as it will never be the same.
I dont feel I can root it to test it some more as they might run away from warranty. Im stuck.... My first Asus product not been a motherboard and not happy with the evidence in front of me guys, please help me out.
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The touch indicator has always been laggy. In actual usage, touches register pretty well.
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jdeoxys said:
The touch indicator has always been laggy. In actual usage, touches register pretty well.
Sent from my FHD porn machine.
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At times its not laggy at all on this tablet. Cheers,

Kezzainc said:
At times its not laggy at all on this tablet. Cheers,
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What? I thought it was always laggy. (By touch indicator I mean the line drawing thing you enable in dev settings)

This sounds as nothing a good custom ROM shouldn't be able to fix. (Unlocked bootloader has been released today! )

My HTC One X 4.1.1 never has any lag at all. Asus TF300 has a little but not inconsistent like this. The very edge of the screen is the hardest to even work and pushing to maximise finger area helps. But its the not even seeing touches and a long swipes does not work as it cant stay locked on.... Pinch to zoom very crazy because of this.
But its looking like I am the only one which is saying hardware ?

**** Update : Wow this is a huge epic fail from Asus. My patience is fully coming to an end. Asus have not done a single thing for me on this fault that makes it unusable.
I have a software issue. Its very clear it is now. Lastnight I did another hardreset to try and get this .26 update. For the first time ever it worked, 100% worked on its first boot up. I had a really really happy half hour with it and man it felt good knowing I didnt buy the most expecince tablet dud on the market. But, I did a standby power once and Boom, back to its crap unusable old ways.
So 100% working after reset then one power down resets it to its old ways. When it did work for that 30mins its was 100% working.
Gary and Tien from Asus. These guys have both repied to me. They are not the big Asus people at all, they are just USA Asus. They havnt even done anything for me at all. A huge let down as they make themselves sound like they can help. My unit is a USA unit. They have not asked me to do any tests, offer me a test firmware or even a better video. Or ask what hardware versions I have, simple nothing and taking the piss of what they are offering to this advance community here. Not even an email saying the new update is coming out that may help.
The really bad part about this is its quite clear that the .26 update talks about upgrading the touch FW. Tien emailed me this morning saying they cant even give me a copy of this public released FW for me to fix my problems.
EPIC EPIC FAIL FROM ASUS.
What should I do everyone as im starting to think about getting on a hill a shouting this out to more than just this forum.
( first 'bad' forum post in my life like this )

Kezzainc said:
**** Update : Wow this is a huge epic fail from Asus. My patience is fully coming to an end. Asus have not done a single thing for me on this fault that makes it unusable.
I have a software issue. Its very clear it is now. Lastnight I did another hardreset to try and get this .26 update. For the first time ever it worked, 100% worked on its first boot up. I had a really really happy half hour with it and man it felt good knowing I didnt buy the most expecince tablet dud on the market. But, I did a standby power once and Boom, back to its crap unusable old ways.
So 100% working after reset then one power down resets it to its old ways. When it did work for that 30mins its was 100% working.
Gary and Tien from Asus. These guys have both repied to me. They are not the big Asus people at all, they are just USA Asus. They havnt even done anything for me at all. A huge let down as they make themselves sound like they can help. My unit is a USA unit. They have not asked me to do any tests, offer me a test firmware or even a better video. Or ask what hardware versions I have, simple nothing and taking the piss of what they are offering to this advance community here. Not even an email saying the new update is coming out that may help.
The really bad part about this is its quite clear that the .26 update talks about upgrading the touch FW. Tien emailed me this morning saying they cant even give me a copy of this public released FW for me to fix my problems.
EPIC EPIC FAIL FROM ASUS.
What should I do everyone as im starting to think about getting on a hill a shouting this out to more than just this forum.
( first 'bad' forum post in my life like this )
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I've downloaded several touch screen test apps and I'm not seeing the issues you're experiencing. I have noticed that some apps perform better than others, but that's about it. I'm thinking that you just got a bad unit.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app

Dude, just return it for a new one if you still can.

Hey guys, dont want to bring this post up again but think I need to to close it off.
I have a fully working unit now. The .26 software update has fixed it completely.
I am pleased I stuck to my feeling of what it was. Fully credit to XDA again with getting this update as that really was weird it not on Asus's website for the guys who really did need it. I waited for the XDA Asus guys but sadly ended with no reply on my email asking for a copy of the update.

Kezzainc said:
Hey guys, dont want to bring this post up again but think I need to to close it off.
I have a fully working unit now. The .26 software update has fixed it completely.
I am pleased I stuck to my feeling of what it was. Fully credit to XDA again with getting this update as that really was weird it not on Asus's website for the guys who really did need it. I waited for the XDA Asus guys but sadly ended with no reply on my email asking for a copy of the update.
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Hey, it's always nice to hear that a case actually went over to the "Resolved" bin for a change (and all that on a stock ROM update instead of the custom ROM I had put my stake on, hehe). I'd rather have threads like these revived for messages like these than the dozens of useless threads that are cropping up on XDA re-chewing regurgitated (and partly decomposed) matters.
I'm glad it worked out so well for you, and wish you all the best and a happy forum forum presence and participation in the coming future.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

The help that XDA provides is what led me to it in the first place. XDA is teh bestest. I'm thinking about a manual infinity update myself.
There should be a motto for XDA like "XDA: Where the awesome happens!"

Hi All,
I live in Australia and received my TF700 from the US yesterday. I charged it up and then attempted to do the initial configuration where it asks you to choose a language. However the touch screen does not appear to be working – it is not responding anywhere I touch so cannot continue past this screen. Have tried cold booting (power and volume down key) multiple times but no change. I am guessing it is DOA – or is there a chance it is firmware related? I am reluctant to send back to the US as it is going to cost a fair bit...
I am going to borrow a mates keyboard dock and see if I can continue past this screen with that and then hopefully install latest firmware. It is the only thing I can think of...
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks

I've recently noticed another touchscreen "issue". Apparently, the digitizer is either incompatible with the screen resolution or just a software bug. When you scroll really really slowly, you can tell it's jumping by a few pixels at a time. When you fling though, it is completely smooth. This does not affect actual usage whatsoever but I do think its an interesting thing to point out.
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Keion said:
I've recently noticed another touchscreen "issue". Apparently, the digitizer is either incompatible with the screen resolution or just a software bug. When you scroll really really slowly, you can tell it's jumping by a few pixels at a time. When you fling though, it is completely smooth. This does not affect actual usage whatsoever but I do think its an interesting thing to point out.
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I can't reproduce that effect. Can you explain a bit more?

Mines seems to be too sensitive. I put my finger as close as I can put it to the screen and it activates whatever icon is under my finger. Doesn't annoy me only when I get near the bottom right of the screen and the panel pops up.
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Eroc162 said:
Mines seems to be too sensitive. I put my finger as close as I can put it to the screen and it activates whatever icon is under my finger. Doesn't annoy me only when I get near the bottom right of the screen and the panel pops up.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium
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Good capacitive screen. You are electric, lol.

Hi Guys - thanks for the advice I appreciate it - however I decided to bite the bullet as I was dreading sending this thing back to the US etc... Anyway - so my touch screen was not working at all - so I borrowed a keyboard dock from a friend (lucky I had this option), and could then proceed to configure the device (using the keyboard of course). I then manually downloaded and installed the .26 firmware and hey presto it's a miracle - the touch screen now works perfectly! So it was a risk but I am glad I had a crack anyway. So hopefully no-one has the same issue as me but if so then this might be worth a try.
Thanks again for any feedback.

okantomi said:
I can't reproduce that effect. Can you explain a bit more?
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1. Open up chrome.
2. Swipe down without lifting finger off.
3. Scrutinize the motions extremely closely while moving your finger as slow as you can.
You should notice multipixel (2 or 3) jumps.

Here's all the things that I have not had happen to my Infinity. ;)

Since upgrading to JB and then moving to CleanRom
1. I've never had a random reboot
2. I've never had a sleep of death
3. I've never had an app not responding browser error
4. I've never had an app crash to desktop
5. I don't have any lags in you tube or other video apps
6. I've never had the battery drain unexpectedly
7. I've never had a wifi problem with speed or connectivity
8. I've never had a problem that I couldn't resolve with XDA's help
9. I've never had the games I bought not work as expected
10. I've not once used my laptop in the last month as this device has effectively replaced it.
:good:
Anyone else with me?

So you've never turned it on?
:laugh:
Jest kidding...
That's the way things should be!
Keep it up...

Same for me, except I'm not unlocked or rooted. ;–)
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

I've had mine for about a week, replacing a Prime (just for the hell of it, my Prime actually doesn't have any real problems).
Except for a couple of browser ANRs, and none in quite a few days, I have had none of those problems. It's really a solid tablet, and does improve upon the Prime in a few ways (we all know which ones by now, I'm sure). Tiny bit of screen movement on the bottom left, tiny bit of light bleed that I only ever notice when booting, but otherwise perfect.

Agree, every since I upgraded to JB and lost my root (like a noob) I have had better performance out of it. It might just be what I have on it now but its running smoothly.

Does GPS work on your tablet with CleanROM? I think I will wait for Android 4.2 to reach the tf700 before I unlock it.

I have CleanROM with GPS working as it always has.
Wifi, Blutooth and GPS have never been a problem for me from ICS to today.
Sent from a tablet optimized by CleanROM 2.3

Me too!
I'm rooted and have also not experienced any of these issues.

+1 here as well I've never had any problem. The one and only complaint front my end is the build quality in the dock. If I pick up the tablet with one hand on the dock, it makes a popping sound at the base where the lock is. Not a huge deal I just pop it back non the less a flaw
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

Jbb3393 said:
+1 here as well I've never had any problem. The one and only complaint front my end is the build quality in the dock. If I pick up the tablet with one hand on the dock, it makes a popping sound at the base where the lock is. Not a huge deal I just pop it back non the less a flaw
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Yeah, the build quality isn't excellent but it's far from awful. Try buying an 80 dollar, no brand tab from eBay, then try complaining about the Infinity. Mine only has a tiny click up near the volume rocker and down near the charge port. The clicking is barely audible and the screen isn't coming up, so I've been able to disregard it.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

huy_lonewolf said:
Does GPS work on your tablet with CleanROM? I think I will wait for Android 4.2 to reach the tf700 before I unlock it.
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I was putting off unlocking till JB hit. It's here now, but still a bit worried about a $500 paperweight. Might bite the bullet and have fun with some ROM's. I noticed just a few days after OTA JB, it was available to unlocks.

Jbb3393 said:
+1 here as well I've never had any problem. The one and only complaint front my end is the build quality in the dock. If I pick up the tablet with one hand on the dock, it makes a popping sound at the base where the lock is. Not a huge deal I just pop it back non the less a flaw
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
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Software wise mine has been perfect but I also got the popping noise after a while and it got worse and actually starting popping apart in the top right corner. I ended up returning it and I'm currently waiting on a replacement. Not having the dock makes you realize how much better it makes the TF700 package.

sbdags said:
Since upgrading to JB and then moving to CleanRom
1. I've never had a random reboot
2. I've never had a sleep of death
3. I've never had an app not responding browser error
4. I've never had an app crash to desktop
5. I don't have any lags in you tube or other video apps
6. I've never had the battery drain unexpectedly
7. I've never had a wifi problem with speed or connectivity
8. I've never had a problem that I couldn't resolve with XDA's help
9. I've never had the games I bought not work as expected
10. I've not once used my laptop in the last month as this device has effectively replaced it.
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Anyone else with me?
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Yes. Same.
CleanROM is amazing. I never did a full wipe though so my performance isn't great ... but I didn't want to spend HOURS reinstalling everything.

Joeful said:
Yeah, the build quality isn't excellent but it's far from awful. Try buying an 80 dollar, no brand tab from eBay, then try complaining about the Infinity.
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If you buy an 80 dollar tablet, you get what you pay for. If you shell out 8 times as much, you should also get what you pay for, and for that money I expect a perfect device, not something that is barely acceptable.

_that said:
If you buy an 80 dollar tablet, you get what you pay for. If you shell out 8 times as much, you should also get what you pay for, and for that money I expect a perfect device, not something that is barely acceptable.
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But if you get a device with any major defects, you can just return in. Contrary to what you may have read on XDA, it's unlikely that you'll have to exchange the device more than once or twice in order to get a TF700 that is just fine... I'm quite aware that Asus has QC issues, but there is an easy solution - exchange it! Once you have a good device hardware-wise, just install CleanROM and BAM - you have *the* best Android tablet on the market!
I've been 100% satisfied with my purchase, that's for sure! No device is "perfect"...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

jtrosky said:
Contrary to what you may have read on XDA, it's unlikely that you'll have to exchange the device more than once or twice in order to get a TF700 that is just fine...
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Even a single exchange is too much at this price level. At least my first and only device seems to have no major hardware issues, however I will treat it with special care after reading all the reports of loose screens etc. in this forum.

There are no perfect devices. Especially if the owner is OCD to begin with.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW

_that said:
Even a single exchange is too much at this price level. At least my first and only device seems to have no major hardware issues, however I will treat it with special care after reading all the reports of loose screens etc. in this forum.
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As I've said before, even iPads have had similar issues. That's an even higher price point.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW

sbdags said:
Since upgrading to JB and then moving to CleanRom
1. I've never had a random reboot
2. I've never had a sleep of death
3. I've never had an app not responding browser error
4. I've never had an app crash to desktop
5. I don't have any lags in you tube or other video apps
6. I've never had the battery drain unexpectedly
7. I've never had a wifi problem with speed or connectivity
8. I've never had a problem that I couldn't resolve with XDA's help
9. I've never had the games I bought not work as expected
10. I've not once used my laptop in the last month as this device has effectively replaced it.
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Anyone else with me?
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i'm with you on 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
unrooted, still locked, JB.
maybe you should add 11, something like "I've not heard a squeak or a crack from the housing/screen." i'd fail that. after three weeks, my near "perfect" tablet developed a small squeek when pressed along the charging port, and now it is a clipping/cracking sound.

...more than concur!
_that said:
Even a single exchange is too much at this price level. At least my first and only device seems to have no major hardware issues, however I will treat it with special care after reading all the reports of loose screens etc. in this forum.
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Boy this sums it up.
I would have only returned it once and not for exchange.
Would have moved on like I did with the ACER A700.
Liking the TFI, yet I really don't believe I'll return to Asus on the next tablet.
This hit home for me Mr. _that :good:

[Q] TF300 glitches? Advice please

My mother in law has a TF300 that has been really glitchy, so much so that it was basically unusable (the 4.2 update seems to have made it better, but still not perfect).
Her biggest issue has been sporadic touchscreen non-responsiveness. She thinks that this might be worse when connected to the internet (some app working in the background/updating?). Today she also had it where she couldn't use the screen while connected to the keyboard, but when she disconnected the keyboard it started working again, but that may have been a fluke.
In addition, there are times when it will act as if you've pressed an on screen button, even though your hand was nowhere near said button (almost like a ghosting effect on a keyboard, when the computer is running slow)
I've got the tablet with me for a few hours and I'd like to help her get it to the point where it's working normal again. Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.

Almost as soon as I mentioned the on screen buttons, it started acting up.
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Did it just start or has it been doing it since day 1? Go to settings, then Backup & Reset under Language & Input and do a Factory data reset.
That's the fist step in finding the problem. Bad side she will loose all saved data so save it to a pc.

4.2.1 update rolling out
hmm is that a galaxy player 5.0

I can't remember how long it's been giving her issues, but it has been a while. Multiple factory resets haven't fixed it. In the time I've been tinkering with it I've disabled some of the bloatware and turned off Auto Updates from the Play Store, so we'll see if those help in any way.
I've also noticed that the notification bar keeps getting stuck (either up or down). It looks like rotating it helps fix that, but still that's less than ideal...
Ah, the joys of being tech support :silly:
I've got it hooked up to my laptop in an attempt to use LogCat to help debug, but I'm not sure if I'm seeing anything consistent enough to label it as the cause of her troubles. Still, a resource available if anyone knows what I should be looking for there.
R3Z4545 said:
hmm is that a galaxy player 5.0
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Yes, yes it is

If it's under warranty then send it back. Hopefully she hasn't had it over a year.
If it were mine it would've already been in the mail. Since its not unlocked and factory reset aren't working there's not much else that can be done without voiding the warranty.
Sent from my LG-LG855 using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2

is there a screen protector on it?

My TF300 always the same thing whenever there was background IO, even with Android 4.1.
Turning off the useless syncing and auto Play Store updates do help.
Also check to see if the storage has been filled. IO performance is also decreased by having a relatively filled flash.

So having disabled the Auto Updates from Google Play seems to have made a world of difference. I'm surprised background IO took so much out of the tablet, since it's running on a quad core, but oh well. Thanks for the suggestions everyone!

Would you buy your TF700 again?

With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".

Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty issues and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Actually, I would indeed. However, the TF700 stock is blah, you have to unlock the tablet to unleash its true potential. With ROMS like CyanogenMod and CromiX it makes it faster than a stock Nexus 7. But since it is about a year old It may be work to wait.
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
ROM: Cromi-X 4.4 Odex
Kernal: Hundsbuah's V3.0.5 Kernal

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Tylorw1 said:
Actually, I would indeed. However, the TF700 stock is blah, you have to unlock the tablet to unleash its true potential. With ROMS like CyanogenMod and CromiX it makes it faster than a stock Nexus 7. But since it is about a year old It may be work to wait.
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
ROM: Cromi-X 4.4 Odex
Kernal: Hundsbuah's V3.0.5 Kernal
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Thanks, took the plunge it was hard not to at >300.

I would buy it again without hesitation.
The combo with the dock and CromiX is still atm unbeatable.
On travel with 15hrs batt time watching full hd movies, do 90% on it what I do on my laptop, the microsdcard, the sdcard in the dock, the usb slot, no other combo is available atm that can beat that. Period.
Is there more to say?
Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Sent from my Asus Infinity TF700 with Dock

Congrats! Hope you can also find a great deal for the dock. From a productivity perspective, I would also buy it again-the keyboard and extra battery definitely puts the tablet above the rest in my opinion. From a multimedia perspective, I may have given more serious thought to Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 - I've heard it runs fairly smooth and having speakers in the front is a nice feature.

In a heartbeat.
Drenus said:
From a multimedia perspective, I may have given more serious thought to Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 - I've heard it runs fairly smooth and having speakers in the front is a nice feature.
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It really doesn't. I have a GT2 10.1, too, and it's utter rubbish. Sluggish, blurry, lags an awful lot... My TF700 on stock runs laps around the GT2 10.1.

ShadowLea said:
In a heartbeat.
It really doesn't. I have a GT2 10.1, too, and it's utter rubbish. Sluggish, blurry, lags an awful lot... My TF700 on stock runs laps around the GT2 10.1.
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Good to know I made the right decision with TF700! :good:

Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Probably not. While I haven't unlocked it yet, I did root it and for a while everything was great. Then ASUS pushed an update last December, I think, and from then on the tablet became the most frustrating I've ever used. Incredible lag (3 - 5 seconds for the menu to come up after tapping the lower right corner!!!) and other flaky behavior -- like root suddenly stopped working without my doing anything ... Voodoo showed it still rooted, but superuser was completely nonfunctional. Three reboots later root is working again (?!) and it's just back to being laggy.
I'll never buy another ASUS tablet again if they paid me.
mudge
P.S. I suppose I should unlock it and install a custom ROM one of these days ...

iCurmudgeon said:
Probably not. While I haven't unlocked it yet, I did root it and for a while everything was great. Then ASUS pushed an update last December, I think, and from then on the tablet became the most frustrating I've ever used. Incredible lag (3 - 5 seconds for the menu to come up after tapping the lower right corner!!!) and other flaky behavior -- like root suddenly stopped working without my doing anything ... Voodoo showed it still rooted, but superuser was completely nonfunctional. Three reboots later root is working again (?!) and it's just back to being laggy.
I'll never buy another ASUS tablet again if they paid me.
mudge
P.S. I suppose I should unlock it and install a custom ROM one of these days ...
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Truthfully have you tried a factory reset and such? I am unlocked but did install the stock 4.2.1 and I felt it ran really well, compared to 4.1.1 anyways, which is what was pushed in December. If you had your tablet for 10 months, or already unlocked but having flashed CromiX, you should definitely do so .
Also I agree with another posted above even though I already commented once . Today I was flashing files, modding, for about 7 hours straight. I didnt have dock on but I had it with me. When the tablet hit about 30%, I put the dock on to recharge that battery. By the time the dock was at 0%, the tablet was back at 75% Now, if you can get 7 hours on 70%, with dock adding back up to 3/4 battery, its an easy 12-14 hours of tablet. I doubt any tablet out there can do that . A friend had a HTC phone, forget exact version. He was playing it for maybe 3 hours and his phone was already half way dead, and he didnt have a backup battery either .
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iCurmudgeon said:
Probably not. While I haven't unlocked it yet, I did root it and for a while everything was great. Then ASUS pushed an update last December, I think, and from then on the tablet became the most frustrating I've ever used. Incredible lag (3 - 5 seconds for the menu to come up after tapping the lower right corner!!!) and other flaky behavior -- like root suddenly stopped working without my doing anything ... Voodoo showed it still rooted, but superuser was completely nonfunctional. Three reboots later root is working again (?!) and it's just back to being laggy.
I'll never buy another ASUS tablet again if they paid me.
mudge
P.S. I suppose I should unlock it and install a custom ROM one of these days ...
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Unlock and all your problems will disappear. It's weird to think a third party can advance a tab better than the company's own developers, but they can tenfold.

No.
And I shouldn't have to massage it into acceptable working order by violating the warranty.

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No.
And I shouldn't have to massage it into acceptable working order by violating the warranty.
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A warranty that only fixes hardware issues, not software. The only way to actually get an acceptable ROM, to me anyways, is to unlock. I personally think 4.2.1 fresh runs great, however it is bloated, and the stock kernel could use some of _That's tweaking to make it acceptable, again personal opinion. And sbdags or dasunsrules, dont know if I spelled correct, will treat help you much more then ASUS will ever software wise.
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flhthemi said:
No.
And I shouldn't have to massage it into acceptable working order by violating the warranty.
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It is what it is. If you're unhappy with it, you have three options: Take it back, keep it and endlessly complain about it, or flash a tweaked rom.
It does seem a wierd place to complain about it though, on forums where people have found the solution for all of us. People who have risked their warranties also for the benefit of everyone.. just saying.

CiaronDarcOne said:
It is what it is. If you're unhappy with it, you have three options: Take it back, keep it and endlessly complain about it, or flash a tweaked rom.
It does seem a wierd place to complain about it though, on forums where people have found the solution for all of us. People who have risked their warranties also for the benefit of everyone.. just saying.
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After 1 or two months of use,if a problem doesnt occur, then more then likely no hardware problem will occur. If something happens, like a screen breaking, they will still place the blame on you. It is only a warranty from defects, not accidental use. So I dont even see the use after a couple months. Truthfully my screen has defects in it, but I live with it. It is not a HUGE dual and can only see it when the screen is off. So it dont actually effect the use of it while you are using it, so no sense in sending it in, and I unlocked knowing the defect, but it is a minor one. The bigger defect was the software ROM on it, but that is fixed .
Tylor
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Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Yes.
The ASUS TF700T worked fine out-of-the-box, but lagged with the stock ROM. Unlocking it and installing CleanROM Inheritance was the best thing I ever did.
There are two things that I wish it had out-of-the box. The first is a USB port and the second is a version with cellular data services.
I have the USB port adapter and love the fact that ASUS made it a powered USB port adapter, but having a true USB port would have been preferable.
There are times when I wish that I had cellular data services on it, in addition to WiFi. Most phones today have the ability to act as a hotspot, so it's not a big deal, but it would have been more convenient.

Yes. I've used it for university and the dock combo meant I've typed all my notes on ever note. I used it stock for 5 months and even then it was okay. Recently since the latest jb it got slower and so I got the bug for flashing customs. Never looked back since. Performance is amazing. Is quick, snappy, access apps quickly. Annoying it took to now to realise it but glad I did.
At the end of the day you use a tablet to use noted to look at. I'd rather get my moneys worth out of it than barely use it as its buggy etc.
If if breaks it breaks which I hope to god it doesn't. But already I used it and wasnt frustrated with it.
I love it. Which there were more accessories I.e a real smart cover but still love it. Tried the Samsung 10.2 and was awful compared. Resolution was horrid.
I'm sat in car on a long drive with this tethered to my phone loving life.
Just enjoy it. Use it.
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hell the F*ck No!
Should have bought a Ultra Book and a Kindle HD.
This thing cost me $750 with the keyboard.
and I prefer to use my ICS phone that's almost 2 yrs old for just about anything I can do with the tablet except videos.
It's totally laggy, and unusable if a app is updating in the background. Some websites take 30+ sec to load.
I've had more random reboots with this tablet then I've had in my entire life with Windows, and I go back to Win 3.1!
My take is: Asus is great at offering features and design, but they suck on execution for anything other than motherboards.

While I enjoy my tablet greatly I'm not sure I would recommend it. I'm one of the small number of people who for whatever reason, their tablets are unable to unlock using the unlocking tool. This renders me unable to experience what others are saying concerning flashing better roms to really make the tablet perform. I also can't get OTAs or user the device tracker. It's currently shipping back from RMA to fix some light bleed on the screen and the issue with the tablet being unable to get OTAs/device tracker to work. I just called and the service rep said the screen was replaced with a new one and all tests they ran on the system came back fine. He couldn't say if the main problem that concerned me of the tablet not communicating with the Asus servers was fixed but there should be a detailed report of what was done. If the unlock tool doesn't work fine, but the tablet should be able to receive any updates Asus releases from the moment it's turned on after purchase. I was fine running the stock rom with any bloatware turned off. Coming from the Prime, it is a smooth user experience for me. My day is not ruined if it takes an extra 3 seconds to open an application.
With the dock this tablet is truly remarkable. The extra battery and being able to type takes the device beyond other tablets in usage. Sure anyone can get a blue tooth keyboard but that is only going to drain the battery faster. It also has the usb port and full size sd-card slot. The screen is really nice and even though I have a anti-glare protector which does subtract from it's clear picture, it's still great.
The reason I wouldn't recommend it is the price and lack of support from some of the big game developers. This is supposed to be a top notch portable multimedia experience and with the gpu in it we shouldn't be stuck running games which are not fully using the hardware. Look around the forums as there are ways to side load the games on to the system but that doesn't mean they will all function properly. Concerning price, a person will end up dropping about $650-700 bucks after tax for the tablet dock combo. If I were to be buying a tablet again and what I've told two coworkers, I'd go for the TF300 line. Sure the screen is not as good but the tablet/dock combo comes out to about $500. Or I would hold out and see what summer tablets are lined up. So far I'm actually not impressed with what the manufactures have out now. I'm interested in seeing what Samsung's new Exynos processors can do in a tablet.

Enjoying my tab, arrived overnight refurbed for $291 pristene condition. Unfortunately it came updated and is on 4.2.1 the kernels 3.1.10, would of like to of tried it before the update and I believe the unlocking options are easier (still confirming). More testing to do before I can unlock what are the most popular\necessary tweaks?
Edit: nevermind this is thread I failed to find b4 asking http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1834521

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Question Screen weirdness on me the other day.

My pixel 7 pro freaked out on me the other day and went black on me when I played a game and didn't come back for over 15 minutes then finally was responding again. Any reason why this happened . Hopefully software and not hardware. Hasn't happened since but still concerning .

Anyone ?

Redbeardkevv said:
Anyone ?
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Flaky game? I never play games on any tool, which a smartphone is. I wish the OEM's would stop trying to make it even possible. Buy a "gaming" phone which is designed specifically for that purpose. In fact, some of the best phones available today (spec wise) are gaming phones! If it only happened while playing the game then that is where I would look.

jaseman said:
Flaky game? I never play games on any tool, which a smartphone is. I wish the OEM's would stop trying to make it even possible. Buy a "gaming" phone which is designed specifically for that purpose. In fact, some of the best phones available today (spec wise) are gaming phones! If it only happened while playing the game then that is where I would look.
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This is one of the most ridiculous responses I have ever seen. There is nothing that makes a "gaming phone" special. They're using the same hardware and software as any other phone with gaming-specific gimmicks. The phone has a throttle mechanism to prevent any kind of damage.

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This is one of the most ridiculous responses I have ever seen. There is nothing that makes a "gaming phone" special. They're using the same hardware and software as any other phone with gaming-specific gimmicks. The phone has a throttle mechanism to prevent any kind of damage.
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Ridiculous...maybe...but the fact remains that you experienced this WHILE playing a game! So I wonder what the problem may be?

Hmmm

jaseman said:
Ridiculous...maybe...but the fact remains that you experienced this WHILE playing a game! So I wonder what the problem may be?
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That's called a hardware defect if the hardware can't cope. Going blank for 15 minutes is not normal.

Hardware hmm and not software?

Redbeardkevv said:
Hardware hmm and not software?
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What were you playing? If it was a graphically intensive game, I would definitely lean more towards blaming the hardware. It's very rare that a game can actually make a phone that unstable. In fact I can't remember the last time I've had a game make my phone unresponsive.

Roblox with my nephew

Redbeardkevv said:
Roblox with my nephew
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I've never played that game but their site seems to suggest some rather low requirements so I would be shocked if an ARMv8 processor like Tensor 2 is going to struggle with it.
Android warning screens
Due to the very large number of Android devices in existence, we cannot be certain that all devices will run optimally even if they are running the correct version of the operating system and do not have a Tegra 2 chipset.
We have 2 levels of unsupported Android devices - skippable and unskippable:
Skippable Devices: These types of devices will get a warning telling you that your device may not be powerful enough to play experiences smoothly. This is just a warning to let you know that while your device isn't specifically supported, experiences might still run though they will likely lag a little (or a lot). Tapping outside the warning box will make it go away and the experience should keep loading.
Unskippable Devices: will get a message that informs you that your device doesn't meet the minimum system requirements. This means the device is not able to play experiences on Roblox. This message usually shows up on devices that use the Tegra 2 graphics chipset or a processor older than ARMv7. These kinds of tablets/phones do not support features that the Roblox needs to be able to function. However, users with these unskippable messages will still be able to access all other parts of the app outside of experiences.
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https://en.help.roblox.com/hc/en-us/articles/203625474-ROBLOX-Mobile-System-Requirements

Yea I was thinking it had low requirements. Maybe bad coding ??? But then again no other app or game has caused that to happen. Sooo. Yea

I don't think it's software. I already had one screen die. Went black and never came back on. I had it fixed under warranty at a local UbreakIFix (Asurion - Google's warranty partner). Techs were aware of a similar problem with the 5a and replaced my screen same day.
I've had a few wonky screen issues that hard locked my phone. Had one go black, but fortunately came back after holding power down. It once went all yellow with weird shapes/sections. And then just had some freezes with artifacts on the screen.
I'm going away for the holidays so I'll send it back when I get home if I'm still having issues. If you're going away, I'd suggest taking a backup phone just in case. Had mine die the first time when I was visiting my folks out of state. It sucked with no backup.
One thing I noticed is the screen does a fuzzy flash whenever I plug in a USB charger. It's only a split second but it is noticeable. Has anyone else experienced that?

Superguy said:
I don't think it's software. I already had one screen die. Went black and never came back on. I had it fixed under warranty at a local UbreakIFix (Asurion - Google's warranty partner). Techs were aware of a similar problem with the 5a and replaced my screen same day.
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Most of these failures have been a combination of both hardware and software - nothing is actually wrong with the screen. I'm not sure exactly how it happens, but it seems that this usually involves a OS crash (phone freezing up) followed by an attempt to reboot, but for some reason the bootloader has become corrupted and the device won't start. Fixing it generally involves replacing the mainboard, because most repair centers don't have the QPST or the software needed to perform low level reflash. This is a known issue over several generations of Pixels; the cause is unknown.

V0latyle said:
Most of these failures have been a combination of both hardware and software - nothing is actually wrong with the screen. I'm not sure exactly how it happens, but it seems that this usually involves a OS crash (phone freezing up) followed by an attempt to reboot, but for some reason the bootloader has become corrupted and the device won't start. Fixing it generally involves replacing the mainboard, because most repair centers don't have the QPST or the software needed to perform low level reflash. This is a known issue over several generations of Pixels; the cause is unknown.
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What was weird is when mine went black, the phone would still boot and in theory was still usable. Pushing the buttons gave haptic feedback like they were bringing up the power menu or adjusting the volume. I just couldn't see what was going on or use touch to give input.
They told me they just replaced the screen. Didn't touch the motherboard.
I was using one of the custom kernels so I ended up having to wipe it and went back to stock kernel with magisk and some modules. It hasn't acted up as much as it did with the custom kernel, but there are still issues. I suppose it could be something that's messed up in the stock kernel, and perhaps tweaks a dev made in theirs may have exasperated it some.
If I end ups ending it back, I'll try a custom kernel again, but for now, I'm just sticking with stock.
*no disrespect intended or implied to any dev

Superguy said:
What was weird is when mine went black, the phone would still boot and in theory was still usable. Pushing the buttons gave haptic feedback like they were bringing up the power menu or adjusting the volume. I just couldn't see what was going on or use touch to give input.
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Yeah, that's definitely a display issue. I'm talking about when the device doesn't work or respond at all, maybe vibrates on power up but doesn't respond to anything, and usually will come up as "Qualcomm Bulk USB" or something when connected to PC
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They told me they just replaced the screen. Didn't touch the motherboard.
I was using one of the custom kernels so I ended up having to wipe it and went back to stock kernel with magisk and some modules. It hasn't acted up as much as it did with the custom kernel, but there are still issues. I suppose it could be something that's messed up in the stock kernel, and perhaps tweaks a dev made in theirs may have exasperated it some.
If I end ups ending it back, I'll try a custom kernel again, but for now, I'm just sticking with stock.
*no disrespect intended or implied to any dev
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For sure, active development may or may not have stability issues, it's all a learning process!