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I've been using Cognition 2.1 and SRE since I got my Captivate. I have to say that I am very pleased with designgears stock rebuilds and they definitely made the user experience of the phone much better.
However, having come from a SE x10a, I never really had the opportunity to run any Cyanogen roms, much less CM6, on a phone meant specifically for Android (I did get it running on my HTC Touch Pro and HD2).
Does anyone have any first hand experience with running CM6 on a "real" Android phone and how does it compare to the current Cognition 2.1.5? Should I be holding my breath for CM6 or are the differences minimal (minus Froyo of course)?
Well, considering Cognition is just sourced together improvements in an all in one package, and Cyanogen mod is re-worked code they aren't even in the same ballpark. If and when CM drops it will be very different from Cognition.
Yeah I've had experience with Cyanogen on a Nexus one, and the speed improvements and big updates that add a lot of features, i used Cognition, and i have a couple gripes. first DG updates too frequently, i hate having to keeping using titanium backup, it literally takes an hour to get all my stuff back the way i want, he updates like everyday i swear. Secondly the updates are really buggy still, i had issues on my phone getting really random errors. Cyan has a ton of developers behind it, it really makes the phone, can't wait for it to be on Captivate.
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Yeah I've had experience with Cyanogen on a Nexus one, and the speed improvements and big updates that add a lot of features, i used Cognition, and i have a couple gripes. first DG updates too frequently, i hate having to keeping using titanium backup, it literally takes an hour to get all my stuff back the way i want, he updates like everyday i swear. Secondly the updates are really buggy still, i had issues on my phone getting really random errors. Cyan has a ton of developers behind it, it really makes the phone, can't wait for it to be on Captivate.
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you do realize that he releases UPDATES that dont require you to back up and restore every time?
I'm not sure if I would be willing to give up touch wiz for CM. I really think touch wiz with launcher pro is the way to go. Stock android despite what some really loud people think, is not am improvement over sense and touch wiz. At least not for me.
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I'm not sure if I would be willing to give up touch wiz for CM. I really think touch wiz with launcher pro is the way to go. Stock android despite what some really loud people think, is not am improvement over sense and touch wiz. At least not for me.
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I agree. The TW calendar and contact list is pretty, and LP makes the rest pretty and functional. Good combination IMO
waiting4gingerbread said:
I agree. The TW calendar and contact list is pretty, and LP makes the rest pretty and functional. Good combination IMO
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I especially appreciate the wifi, bluetooth, silent and vibrate controls. And I use the lock screen music controls all the time. I don't know how people get along without them.
freddieman23 said:
iOS 4.2 is better and has TRUE multitasking.
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you do realize that he releases UPDATES that dont require you to back up and restore every time?
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Hmm well i didn't know for sure, he updates too much, i just stopped after 2.1.1, i hate updating, and flashing, and troubleshooting if something goes wrong haha, i mean Cog is something needed to push development on the Captivate. I mean IMO I'm not a big fan of COG, but its good to know people are working hard on our phone despite all the attention on the Vibrant.
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Hmm well i didn't know for sure, he updates too much, i just stopped after 2.1.1, i hate updating, and flashing, and troubleshooting if something goes wrong haha, i mean Cog is something needed to push development on the Captivate. I mean IMO I'm not a big fan of COG, but its good to know people are working hard on our phone despite all the attention on the Vibrant.
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I think it was after 2.1.1 when he started releasing update versions that don't touch /data so leave your apps & settings alone. I do agree though that the releases are too frequent, I'd expect such frequent releases when during the 0.X stage not 2.X.
I'm currently on 2.1.4 and am waiting for 2.1.6 to be released & for other guinea pigs to test it before I upgrade as even just disabling the voodoo lagfix, updating and re-enabling the lag fix is a pain.
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I'm not sure if I would be willing to give up touch wiz for CM. I really think touch wiz with launcher pro is the way to go. Stock android despite what some really loud people think, is not am improvement over sense and touch wiz. At least not for me.
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Agreed, at least for touchwiz. Not sure about Sense.
Having said that, I understand CM makes changes to stock, so it sounds like it's basically a light skin as well. So not sure if those features are worth it. I love the TW brightness change on notification bar swype. If I knew how to submit ideas to CM, I would submit that. Swiping contacts is very nice too. And of course the notification bar toggles are great.
Launcher pro fixes the rest.
seriously, QQ moar, you're honestly complaining about having too many updates and too much support from the dev community? Look at the other galaxy S forums, they dont even have anything as cool as that, I mean Cognition is just 20 steps rolled into one ROM of what you'll do anyway, stripping many annoying things of the rom out and adding a few patches here and there.. its NOT a vanilla rom, its not anything thats not heavily based on what samsung/ATT put out there.
Its a dude constantly trying to make your phone better, thats hardly a bad thing. You can stick to Cognition 2.1 as i'm doing if you want and just wait for whatever else comes out based on a new samsung/ATT firmware. No one is forcing you to update, read the changelog and if nothing affects you leave your phone as it is.
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I agree. The TW calendar and contact list is pretty, and LP makes the rest pretty and functional. Good combination IMO
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Yea, I dont mind touchwiz so much. But the one thing I HATE about it is the fact that Samsung did away with the stock Android bluetooth stack and replaced it with one of their own, now we cant use bluetooth game controllers with it.
But other than that, TW with LauncherPro on top of it is pretty good.
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Agreed, at least for touchwiz. Not sure about Sense.
Having said that, I understand CM makes changes to stock, so it sounds like it's basically a light skin as well. So not sure if those features are worth it. I love the TW brightness change on notification bar swype. If I knew how to submit ideas to CM, I would submit that. Swiping contacts is very nice too. And of course the notification bar toggles are great.
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I just leave my brightness set to auto. I tried the swiping to change brightness, but didnt like it. One swipe to the left made it go lowest brightness and one swipe to the right made maximum brightness, nothing in between. Thats why I use Auto. But I do love the notification area toggles for Wifi, bluetooth, etc. Just wish they had GPS in there as well like the other phones do.
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Yea, I dont mind touchwiz so much. But the one thing I HATE about it is the fact that Samsung did away with the stock Android bluetooth stack and replaced it with one of their own, now we cant use bluetooth game controllers with it.
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My MSI Bluetooth GamePad works great. It's the Wii controller that doesn't play well.
I love the development on the Captivate i just don't particularly like all the enhancements that DG has added on the COG ROM. Battery drained like crazy with it. but anyways. yeah TW does have something special about it. some really neat enhancements over that stock experience, i haven't had any experience with Sense but hopefully a ROM will come out soon.
If and when cyan is released for this phone I will swap in a heart beat.
You get a customized light install with all of your favorite mods already installed already. Plus you get updated pushed directly to your phone.
Plus all the stuff that TW has you won't miss.
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I just leave my brightness set to auto. I tried the swiping to change brightness, but didnt like it. One swipe to the left made it go lowest brightness and one swipe to the right made maximum brightness, nothing in between. Thats why I use Auto. But I do love the notification area toggles for Wifi, bluetooth, etc. Just wish they had GPS in there as well like the other phones do.
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There is a trick to the brightness slider. In order to keep you from changing brightness accidentally, they made the initial spot you touch a dead zone. What you have to do is if you want the screen to be set somewhere on the lower end of the brightness scale, start swiping on the right side and work your way down. If you want to be on the brighter end of the scale, start all the way to the left and work your way up. If you want to be in the middle, just start at either extreme. It seems complicated at first, but it gets to be second nature really fast.
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If and when cyan is released for this phone I will swap in a heart beat.
You get a customized light install with all of your favorite mods already installed already. Plus you get updated pushed directly to your phone.
Plus all the stuff that TW has you won't miss.
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I'll miss plenty. Also, since samsung doesn't release driver source code, CM to leave the galaxyies behind when 3.0 comes out until (and if) samsung releases or leaks some 3.0 roms.
If I update to Cyanogen (when it comes out) or Cognition will I lose Swype?
So here's the deal. I just bought one, and I'm looking forward to developing for it.
A few questions first:
1. What kinds of roms do you like? and Why. I want to please my user base, as well as pick it.
2. What features are you missing from Sense, MIUI, AOSP, or whatever else the kids are using these days? (this includes things you see on other devices and wish you had on sensation, or things you think of yourselves)
3. What kinds of roms do you think have ABSOLUTELY no point; For example, I think a re-post of CM with a new kernel and a theme built-in is ridiculous... What do you think?
4. What do you prefer about a rom you flash on sensation? if you had to choose between battery and performance, which? if you had to choose between pretty theme/heavy apps or bare-bones cleanliness, which? This kind of relates to q1...
Before I start repeating myself, I'd just like to say that sensation has a bunch of amazing devs going for it, and has a unique look and a terrific user base, and I'm thrilled to be a part of it.
Please leave intelligent responses, to help make your device better!
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Ok I will be the first hear. I have only had my Sensation since September 1st so I have not yet flashed a custom ROM to it. I am kind of giving the stock ROM a good trial run first.
I think since so many people, including me, are reporting touch screen issues, especially with pulling the ring up to unlock the device. You should really consider implumenting something that gives you a choice if you want to use the lock screen or not. Maybe a widget or a added choice in the settings to disable the lock screen. Or maybe even a G-Sensor operated lock screen, you know shake the device to unlock it.
I personally like the dialer UI of HTC Sense 3.0 and the text messaging in sense. I do not like the fact that you can not do what I call free scroll through your apps in the app tray. You have to scroll inn predefined blocks of 20 apps at a time. I personally like a bear bones ROM with a lot of downloadable add ons that you can install if you want. That way you can truly customize your device to suit you and you needs and likes.
I also think you should add a percentage meter that can be put in the status bar at the top cause the stock ROM does not have that option. I really like being able to see my battery percentage not just a battery with a green bar.
Also I miss the CyanogenMod settings in settings that I used in the Hyperdroid-CM7-v2.1.0 -HeadyHoneybadger ROM on my HD2.
I really am not to fond of the bottom launcher bar in the stock ROM either. I like the small launcher like the one in the above mentioned ROM so anything like that would be great.
A better music player than the default Android music player would be a plus also.
Last thing I can think of is something that will turn your WiFi off when you leave the WiFi area, say your home WiFi. And maybe even turns it on when you get back in range of your home WiFi network.
If I think of anything else I will post it here in this thread. Hope you get some more responses.
Edit: I forgot to mention, I prefer performance over battery. But not to the point that the battery will not last at least 8 hours
I'd choose a ROM that keeps Sense 3.0, intelligently overclocks the CPU to maximise performance when the phone is awake and being used, and underclocks it when the phone is asleep to maximise battery life. Another biggie for me would be a camera apk that reduces the compression and noise reduction that the stock Sense camera apk uses which cause Sensation photos and videos to lose sharpness. And I'd like Beats from the Sensation SE included too.
Over to you...
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I'd choose a ROM that keeps Sense 3.0, intelligently overclocks the CPU to maximise performance when the phone is awake and being used, and underclocks it when the phone is asleep to maximise battery life. Another biggie for me would be a camera apk that reduces the compression and noise reduction that the stock Sense camera apk uses which cause Sensation photos and videos to lose sharpness. And I'd like Beats from the Sensation SE included too.
Over to you...
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All of the above is already available.
To OP. Welcome to Pyramid forums.
It's very tough competition here mate, so good luck to you (no sarcasm).
To make ROM successful you'd have to make it unique or a lot better than others ( very, very hard to achieve) or both together.
Coming from the Mytouch 4g my favorite Roms were the Aosp Roms they are so light and quick with amazing battery. I would love one similar to fuax's aosp rom from the mytouch 4g. Also I'm a fan of better battery since I use my phone for music and internet all day!
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Oh - and...
1080p YouTube playback
MKV file playing
Visualiser for media player
If I think of more I'll be back, but you should have enough to keep you coding for a while
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ive had my phone for 3wks and just flashed HD Revolution but stripped it with a viperMod [hated the TMobile and HTC widgets] and loving it so far
the only problem for me is the yukky battery life but its far superior to my HD2, can do so much more with it
my advice is to flash Recovery and jump right in
Miui.
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Really? Awesome news! Which ROM has them all?
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Any ROM really, with add ons available. I.personally recommend InsertCoin 2.2.5 SSE
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Really? Awesome news! Which ROM has them all?
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I would like to see a Sense 3.0 ROM, but super fast (if that's possible) by removing useless junk and optimizations and **** (I'm currently using InsertCoin and it is fast, but it would be awesome to see iOS or WP7 responsiveness)
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I am looking for a music player with a good graphical equalizer. I have yet to find one that works without flaws...
(Running MIUI ROM)
MIUI stock music player:
Sounds good, equalizer is satisfactory, but you can't tell it what folder to pull music from. It just reads the whole phone. It has a setting that you specify minimum file size for, but that's crap. Should be able to just tell it where to find music and only load that music... It also skips/cuts off etc A LOT!
PlayerPro:
This player has a really crappy equalizer. The only positive I can think of about this app is the ability to use SRS enhancement in HTC phones that have it. This one skips/cuts out music more than any other app I have tried. No matter what happens, screen turns off, like 5-20 rapid cutouts. Quality of playback is poor. Accessing certain features are a pain and needs to be able to be accessed from Menu button while in the player, not just the main screen. But the cutouts for anything happening to the phone, browsing for the next song, volume up/down. Minimizing, screen on off. Huge/a lot of cutouts in playback.
PowerAMP:
This was probably one of the better apps. Great equalizer, very direct navigation to whatever you need. But this player also suffers from the cutouts when locking/unlocking or interacting with the phone. This app does have that Buffer setting, but even set to huge (725ms) it still suffers from these cutouts. And the update that came out today.. well that just screwed it up even more...
UberMusic:
Smooth, looks pretty, can tell it's a complete rip from Zune so I know how to navigate it at least. Cutouts while navigating the phone weren't nearly as bad, or didn't happen. The problem with this app is that it doens't have an equalizer. I googled, and found out that Fede (many may know him from that scam app LPP) promised to implement an equalizer. That same dev also promised a re-write of LPP be the end of 2010 and look where LPP is at.. completely abandoned for this music app. With that history I won't buy his music app until the equalizer is implemented. But based on what he's shown with LPP I don't see that happening for 932750923 years.
WinAmp:
Loved it on my computers since middle school... But for the phone, the cut-outs are almost as bad as PlayerPro, and it also has a pretty crappy equalizer.
Anybody else know of a good/smooth music app, with no cutouts in music playback and a good equalizer?
Thanks!
GTIVRon said:
I am looking for a music player with a good graphical equalizer. I have yet to find one that works without flaws...
(Running MIUI ROM)
MIUI stock music player:
Sounds good, equalizer is satisfactory, but you can't tell it what folder to pull music from. It just reads the whole phone. It has a setting that you specify minimum file size for, but that's crap. Should be able to just tell it where to find music and only load that music... It also skips/cuts off etc A LOT!
PlayerPro:
This player has a really crappy equalizer. The only positive I can think of about this app is the ability to use SRS enhancement in HTC phones that have it. This one skips/cuts out music more than any other app I have tried. No matter what happens, screen turns off, like 5-20 rapid cutouts. Quality of playback is poor. Accessing certain features are a pain and needs to be able to be accessed from Menu button while in the player, not just the main screen. But the cutouts for anything happening to the phone, browsing for the next song, volume up/down. Minimizing, screen on off. Huge/a lot of cutouts in playback.
PowerAMP:
This was probably one of the better apps. Great equalizer, very direct navigation to whatever you need. But this player also suffers from the cutouts when locking/unlocking or interacting with the phone. This app does have that Buffer setting, but even set to huge (725ms) it still suffers from these cutouts. And the update that came out today.. well that just screwed it up even more...
UberMusic:
Smooth, looks pretty, can tell it's a complete rip from Zune so I know how to navigate it at least. Cutouts while navigating the phone weren't nearly as bad, or didn't happen. The problem with this app is that it doens't have an equalizer. I googled, and found out that Fede (many may know him from that scam app LPP) promised to implement an equalizer. That same dev also promised a re-write of LPP be the end of 2010 and look where LPP is at.. completely abandoned for this music app. With that history I won't buy his music app until the equalizer is implemented. But based on what he's shown with LPP I don't see that happening for 932750923 years.
WinAmp:
Loved it on my computers since middle school... But for the phone, the cut-outs are almost as bad as PlayerPro, and it also has a pretty crappy equalizer.
Anybody else know of a good/smooth music app, with no cutouts in music playback and a good equalizer?
Thanks!
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have you tried any of those one a Non MIUI rom? Reason I ask is that there is APP issues with any and all CM based roms including MIUI. Main reasin I ask is I do not have this problem with any of the music apps you mentioned, short of the MIUI as I have never used it and never will.
I only used LeeDroid prior to flashing MIUI and the stock (Sense) player did everything I needed it to without problems.
I guess it's possible this is a MIUI problem. Such a shame... smoothest/fastest and most customizeable ROM I've ever had on a phone.
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I only used LeeDroid prior to flashing MIUI and the stock (Sense) player did everything I needed it to without problems.
I guess it's possible this is a MIUI problem. Such a shame... smoothest/fastest and most customizeable ROM I've ever had on a phone.
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IT has its good points i am sure, but until they stop crapping on everything android stands for I just cant bring myself to useing it. Sorry I couldnt be more help
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I only used LeeDroid prior to flashing MIUI and the stock (Sense) player did everything I needed it to without problems.
I guess it's possible this is a MIUI problem. Such a shame... smoothest/fastest and most customizeable ROM I've ever had on a phone.
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I use powerAMP and have used prolly every rom made for the inspire. With a few exceptions. I don't have your issues. ./shrug
As for Your Miui claim, You have only used Leedriod and Miui. You may want to check out a few other roms. You claim fastest smoothest and have only tried two things.
Thats alot like claiming MCdonalds is the best berger when you have only tried MCdonalds and Burgerking.
Truthfully there are alot of burgers out there and you would be "missing" out.
FYI MIUI is not the fastest/smoothest.....lol
I used many ROMs on other devices. Tried MIUI back then and it was also the smoothest for me there, just couldn't deal with the facebook issues, the camera issues, the GPS issues etc etc it had at the time.
Can you recommend another ROM that's as small and fast/smooth as MIUI?
Try Absolution. I too am an advocate for miui but flashed about 3 weeks ago and haven't gone back!!!
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Try Absolution. I too am an advocate for miui but flashed about 3 weeks ago and haven't gone back!!!
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zelendel said:
have you tried any of those one a Non MIUI rom? Reason I ask is that there is APP issues with any and all CM based roms including MIUI. Main reasin I ask is I do not have this problem with any of the music apps you mentioned, short of the MIUI as I have never used it and never will.
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If the reason really is due to MIUI being based on CM7, then I think this ROM would give me the same result, no?
I'm willing to give it a shot this weekend though. I don't see any screen shots in the thread for the ROM though, (and no place holders like I get from blocked content [at work, ha ha] like other pictures) could you post an SS of the notification pull down? I've grown to really like the 2 page system on MIUI...
GTIVRon said:
I used many ROMs on other devices. Tried MIUI back then and it was also the smoothest for me there, just couldn't deal with the facebook issues, the camera issues, the GPS issues etc etc it had at the time.
Can you recommend another ROM that's as small and fast/smooth as MIUI?
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I am currently using whats in my sig. And I don't have the issues you are having. With the music player. (power Amp)
Its also better, IMHO then MIUI. Its got just as many if not more customization options and you don't have to look at an IPHONE want-to-be interface.
I Also found Gingerbeast to be great and then Ninja. Granted I only like AOSP roms for the most part.
I have never had GPS or Facebook issues on any rom I have used. Can't say about the camera apps as I am not into pictures. Don't use it at all.
Thanks tweaked.
So music playback is smooth/continues even when you lock/unlock or launch an app etc?
And can you tell me if the notification pulldown has the 2nd page for toggles?
Yea, I really did not like the iPhone wannabe launcher either, but I use an alternative launcher...
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If the reason really is due to MIUI being based on CM7, then I think this ROM would give me the same result, no?
I'm willing to give it a shot this weekend though. I don't see any screen shots in the thread for the ROM though, (and no place holders like I get from blocked content [at work, ha ha] like other pictures) could you post an SS of the notification pull down? I've grown to really like the 2 page system on MIUI...
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Was referring to smoothness, battery and overall experience. No prob here using proamp or mixzing. Coredroid also very good Rom
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Thanks tweaked.
So music playback is smooth/continues even when you lock/unlock or launch an app etc?
And can you tell me if the notification pulldown has the 2nd page for toggles?
Yea, I really did not like the iPhone wannabe launcher either, but I use an alternative launcher...
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Sir, Download and flash Absolution. You will be amazed.
The pull down does not have the 2nd page for toggles. But you can add as many toggles as you like to the top.
I just tested it and it does not Glitch when I lock and unlock the phone. Even on Bluetooth.
All this tho and I bet the issue isn't the rom you are using. You prolly just need a full reset. I have found that sometimes I just have to Completely Wipe the phone and then install from scratch to get rid of little annoyances that pop up. I used Miui for about 2 weeks and never noticed what you are experiencing.
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Sir, Download and flash Absolution. You will be amazed.
The pull down does not have the 2nd page for toggles. But you can add as many toggles as you like to the top.
I just tested it and it does not Glitch when I lock and unlock the phone. Even on Bluetooth.
All this tho and I bet the issue isn't the rom you are using. You prolly just need a full reset. I have found that sometimes I just have to Completely Wipe the phone and then install from scratch to get rid of little annoyances that pop up. I used Miui for about 2 weeks and never noticed what you are experiencing.
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Glad to help another one!!! Now enjoy Absolution and thank the Devs, because without them this will not be possible!!
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I will give Absolution a shot this weekend. But as for a bad flash, I don't think the ONLY people that responded to my comment agreeing that there is a problem would also have a bad flash. Not one person said they didn't experience this issue. Must be just a MIUI thing.
Thanks for the info!
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I will give Absolution a shot this weekend. But as for a bad flash, I don't think the ONLY people that responded to my comment agreeing that there is a problem would also have a bad flash. Not one person said they didn't experience this issue. Must be just a MIUI thing.
Thanks for the info!
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Well, MIUI is based on CM7; I'm having this exact problem with CM7 (latest build). As a matter of fact, I've always had this issue, and it's very annoying. I also have a problem with the sound cutting to mono when listening on a headset, and it's highly irritating, because the only way to fix it is to unplug and replug the headphones.
I wonder if a full clean wipe will fix this. I'm really thinking about giving it a shot, but the issue is that I'm going to be stuck with one of two options: either a Sense ROM or a CM7 ROM. I really love CM7, and have no other issues with it than this, so I'm wondering if it is indeed worth it to switch to a Sense based ROM.
I know I won't be going back to sense.
Think I'll just gu buy an MP3 player if it comes down to that.
which is the best light, fast and smoothest rom available for htc chacha. stability and battery concerned.
I hate to blow my own trumpet but I'd recommend this one
^^what that guy said
I'll toot his horn too. I'm a new member of this forum, and just started using this guy's rom. Nice, fast, and free of a lot of pre-installed clutter. Also, easy to install.
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I'll toot his horn too. I'm a new member of this forum, and just started using this guy's rom. Nice, fast, and free of a lot of pre-installed clutter. Also, easy to install.
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Thanks, glad you're enjoying the ROM
Just a couple of questions, so I hope you see this because I haven't posted ten times yet...
#1 no American or Canadian English setting (on initial setup, and under language settings)
#2 where's the Beats Audio?
Still love it, though. Noticeable difference in speed without background apps, and much better internal storage. Also, mildly improved battery life.
briandl said:
Just a couple of questions, so I hope you see this because I haven't posted ten times yet...
#1 no American or Canadian English setting (on initial setup, and under language settings)
#2 where's the Beats Audio?
Still love it, though. Noticeable difference in speed without background apps, and much better internal storage. Also, mildly improved battery life.
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It's based on the stock EU ROM, so no, there's no American or Canadian English. I could add them but it'd add to the size of the system or no real reason. I'm sure you can live with the Queen's English
The Beats Audio doesn't show up anywhere in the UI, it just works its magic in the background. I even notice a difference when I use it with my cheap £20 eBay headphones so I know it's working
If you've seen other ROMs with the Beats Audio showing up as a setting on the UI, that's probably because they have the Music app from ROMs of newer phones. I might see if I can get that ported to my ROM now, come to think of it. Thanks for that idea
P.S. to further improve battery life, go to your sound settings and turn off all the sensor based stuff if you haven't already, that makes quite a difference!
Hmmm...haven't noticed a difference with my 20 buck Panasonics, or in my car, though that's with an FM transmitter (a good one, though).
I guess I'll live with the Queen's English, though the patriotic side of me cringes, eh?...
Weird, maybe it depends on the music you listen to. Stuff with heavy bass sounds better at least
God save our gracious Queeeeen
I just tried to stick the /system/apps folder from a Sensation XE onto my ChaCha... The ChaCha didn't like it too much. I'll experiment more later, see what I can get working. Looking around the XE ROM, there's certainly stuff here which shows whether or not Beats is working in the actual UI, so I might add some of that in if it plays nice with the ChaCha.
Cool! Thanks for all your work. Is it possible to move these posts to your thread in the development forum, so others can see what's going on?
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Also, the facebook key doesn't work anymore. Can this be sorted out in an upcoming relase--is it possible to have the key open up the Tinfoil app?
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Cool! Thanks for all your work. Is it possible to move these posts to your thread in the development forum, so others can see what's going on?
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A moderator would have to do that, but yeah, mods if you're reading this, moving these posts into my Stock Plus thread would be helpful, cheers
Also, the facebook key doesn't work anymore. Can this be sorted out in an upcoming relase--is it possible to have the key open up the Tinfoil app?
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That's something else I'm looking into. I know it can be done, others have done it, I've just got to edit the right files in my ROM so it goes to Tinfoil.
I promise I'll start posting there once I cross this ten post threshold. I understand why they do it, and it clearly has an effect on the quality of the posts, but it's still annoying .
light weight rom
here is the finest rom with good set of apps... i have been using it for months now.... there is only one issue that it doesn't shutdown the phone... seems like there is some problem with the shutdown process... but it doesnt hurt because it's nothing that we usually use....
here is the url to the post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343636
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I also use this ROM and I have no Problems with it.
Guys I have found another Rom that is super duper fast by hexgore.... I am personally using it without any glitches ... And the guy is still supporting it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690088
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CM7
Hey guy, im using CM7 ROM. if without-front camera is not a big problem for u, u can try it. This rom is light, stable and it have many setting option for u.
Im still wondering abt Dailer isssue in Hexgore ROM, but some people say it's not a problem to drain ur battery
PS: u also need to flash Google Service after u installed CM7 ROM for using Google App like Market, and flash Keyboard to correct some keys are mismatched in this ROM.
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Hey guy, im using CM7 ROM. if without-front camera is not a big problem for u, u can try it. This rom is light, stable and it have many setting option for u.
Im still wondering abt Dailer isssue in Hexgore ROM, but some people say it's not a problem to drain ur battery
PS: u also need to flash Google Service after u installed CM7 ROM for using Google App like Market, and flash Keyboard to correct some keys are mismatched in this ROM.
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To confirm, I am going to try and implement a fix to the dialler bug this week when I continue work on my ROM. My first priority is Aroma at the moment but it's on my list of things to do.
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To confirm, I am going to try and implement a fix to the dialler bug this week when I continue work on my ROM. My first priority is Aroma at the moment but it's on my list of things to do.
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Glad to hear that. Ur ROM was my 1st ROM i installed after Root this device.
Original ROM is good for user who have less experience in Android or someone love Sense UI of HTC. CM7 is only good for Tech guys.
Stock ROM feel on CM7?
I have been using Chacha for almost half year now, and I like it to core. Have tried almost all ROMs so far. CWM's backup/restore functionality is pure bliss. At times when your hands are itchy, go ahead, mess up your system, do all your experiments. When done, just restore and you are back to your normal mood! Excellent!!
About the ROMs, I try them a lot, but finally do settle down to ROMs based on stock, as my daily ROMS. These are ROMS which I try my own with some experimental versions, or ones available here like from Hexgore . The reason is, there are quite a bunch of apps on Stock ROMS which are perfectly tuned for Chacha's small screen, and hence I find them more efficient than other alternative apps. Here are apps I find too good and difficult to part from.
Mail App
Dialer App
Messages App
I agree that there would be a lot better apps (like K9 for mail). But the easy of bigger icons, easy to tap organization of icons, just make be feel to stay with this mail app.
Now, coming to point, Will it be possible to get these apps work in non-Stock environment. Similar to Gapps package, if we can get to package these apps, it will be great.
I myself, will try these experiments one by one, and report my observations. But just would like to know if there are any like-minded people like me. Please comment. Thanks.
...what?
I noticed that it generally is a request randomly for this feature or that option, or requests within dev threads themselves or random threads entirely (off topic type 'wouldn't this be cool!')
So what would be cool?
What's on the wish list?
For me i'd love to experience two things:
USB OTG. My S3 broke it for me. Not having it at all was fine, but after integrating that function so fully into my Android life being without it is ...beyond words.
Second thing i'd like is to have the tv-out be an additional display instead of a mirrored display. Plugging into a bigger screen is absolutely awesome - but sometimes it would be nice to have the option of increasing my digital work space instead of just seeing it bigger.
...so not exactly easy things to start us off with, but anything goes.
What do you guys want out of your ROMs?
Maybe this can help inspire devs to include popular ideas by moving the suggestions to a neutral place instead of having to search the whole doubleshot forum for random ideas. Maybe become a good place for someone to cruise by looking for something to do.
What do we like?
great idea to post this thread!
im not one in need of too much, but i do like options. i remember when ezterry came up with the yes no binary script to attach to roms/updates i was amazed we could run code during an update that takes over the screen and user input. it took like two years for someone to polish it up and make the aroma installer, now i find that to be a must in roms. being able to adjust so much prior to even installing a rom is amazing to me still.
so yeah, i look for what most else do, stable, good battery life, speed, nice camera, better than stock. so the only thing i would add to the list everyone else has is make a rom as customizable as possible!
Cm9.1 states in OP USB on the go works on experimental kernel
I would LOVE to see a rom with all of the senses. (A lot of data) or at least 3 sense versions. (Still alot) update with the other HTC sense devices. HTC one series of course, 100%. That's it. It doesn't sound like much but even regular HTC device don't have more than 1 sense version on it so. Yea. That's a request highly impossible. But u never know. We have top notch devs over here
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OTG would indeed be great.
I also like as many settings as possible--particularly colors and visual stuff. My old G1 had a CM rom that had options for every color and font used, I think, and it was great. You could change the sensitivity of the trackball and all that kind of detail stuff. That level of control is fantastic, and I'd love to have it back.
For me just additional tweaks to the sense 4 ROMs and a full fix for the wifi hotspot is very enough for me
Full backwards compatibility with all apps.
Stable overclock.
The full use of the DS camera.
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A rocket pack like Sean Connery uses in Thunderball.
That and a shark with frickin' laser beams coming out of its head.
What would be truly epic is if the laser shark was flying the rocket pack.
DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME!
Or maybe JB with stable fast and fully functional interface and a camera that is identical to or better than the stock ds camera.
Might have better luck asking for the flying shark..
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
like some people said above, i feel like for a lot of people, being able to use the full power of this phone's camera is a big thing. and i guess better battery life?
I'll see your humor, and raise to an idea:
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A rocket pack like Sean Connery uses in Thunderball.
That and a shark with frickin' laser beams coming out of its head.
What would be truly epic is if the laser shark was flying the rocket pack.
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There is work being done into using Android in robotics. Also, at cheap retail you can get a remote controlled helicopter with app support for flight control.
We are devs here, so having that app interaction with the remote controlled device is a springboard to what we actually need.
So the helicopter bit gives us the interaction with the device, and the flight aspect with a solid base to build on for what we need.
We can definitely get a laser from overseas that will cut things, in a portable package like a laser pointer.
I'm sure we could build something in the shape of a shark. I'm thinking we can disassemble a doubleshot and use the tv-out function to mirror the screens, then use two for the eyes. (else write a custom home screen that splits in two with a small gap between on the screen, and fit into the shark head behind where the eyes would be.)
Then the processsor and stuff would be where the brain was, and you could install the keyboard to the top or back of the head. Retain the slide mechanism, and you could have it push button slide out of the mouth or something.
So our roadblocks now:
-Shark mold. Still yet to be determined in size based on some requirements:
-Amphibious. It's a shark, right? We need to look into remote control boats and subs to see how to do this.
-Maybe mount a second laser...
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... a shark with frickin' laser beams coming out of its head...
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...since it was pluralized.
-Some way of targeting the lasers. I'd like to add some manner of aiming, so it needs to be able to move the lasers without moving the machine. Maybe a combination of GPS and accelerometer combined with the camera for output to whatever controller we have so we can make a targeting mechanism.
Lots of prior art exists to make this from so it's about a done deal.
-Power. Power is going to be our biggest issue. The doubleshot is self sufficent, maybe get a couple of mugens and build a docking bay for them where you could plug in 4 or 5 that the doubleshot could use just like the one in the phone while it's on. Heck, we already disassembled it and built the parts into the beast, so this upgrade makes sense. If we can use this battery bank for the rest of the machine - lasers and the flying/swimming bit, then 4 or 5 might not be enough.
-Weight. If it's gonna fly, it's already too heavy with the doubleshot. Add batteries and it's a serious hurdle to overcome. Helicopter blades aren't gonna cut it so this:
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A rocket pack like Sean Connery uses in Thunderball.
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What would be truly epic is if the laser shark was flying the rocket pack.
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...translates the joke into the only logical blueprint to pull it off.
So now we are off to model rockets, and the solid fuel rocket engines. It's okay to refuel a one-burn stage of flight now because that's how that would work. We have many, many years of hobbyist activity to pull from for materials and knowledge.
We can set up a multi-stage flight mechanism and having the doubleshot in the machine allows us to control when those stages ignite, not just one setting off the next.
Hell, we may even be able to fit a rotating barrel or three of engines in the belly of the shark that will serve up stage after stage of engines to be ignited for continued flight. At this point we may very well be looking at orbital capabilities. Why not - go big, right?
Maybe a parachute would be a good thing to incorporate, and being as it's a frickin' shark, we can splash-down for landing somewhere. So play with it by a lake or something. You won't have to go get it, because it can swim, so you just pop out the propeller from the underside-rear, located internally behind the rotating top-serve engines, and drive it to where you are.
Bonus points if on a dock or boat so you don't have to beach it to get it.
(thanks for giving me an outlet for something creative to wander through while printing a ton of pictures)
+ 1 for full camera function. Also, not a huge deal at all, but the CAPS/ALT LEDs function would be nice too.
I might be alone with this one, but I remember in the G1 days, when I press the phone icon to make a call and just start typing the name of a contact, it would automatically search my contacts and start showing matching names, and I could quickly call someone. Some DS ROMs do this, some don't, but it's a cool, quick way to call someone who's not on the recently called list.
Really, I'm just listing the minor things in CM 9.1 that bug me in an otherwise perfect ROM lol
A little off topic, but since we're all speculating: being able to boot from SD card would be boss.
edit: seems this is already possible with an app
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Although I know a couple of other things too, something I've just wished is that we could use the original DS camera in any ROM we wanted AND it would be really handy if it came with IR features for pics & video. Upgradable RAM would be a GREAT feature too.....maybe up to 2gb...if you think of just a HW feature.
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Download AdFree from the Market.
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Although I know a couple of other things too, something I've just wished is that we could use the original DS camera in any ROM we wanted AND it would be really handy if it came with IR features for pics & video. Upgradable RAM would be a GREAT feature too.....maybe up to 2gb...if you think of just a HW feature.
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Remember that internet tough guy who claimed he had a fully-functional AOSP ROM that used the DS camera to the full extent but wouldn't release it because no one wanted to donate to him? That post reminded me of him for some reason.
In my wishlist .... a stable cm7
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In my wishlist .... a stable cm7
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Why? CM9.1 is improved in almost every way over CM7.
I am also a fan of the bluetooth controller bit. Sixaxis app and a ps3 controller - especially one without the rumble pack - is pretty handy. Remote camera shutter trigger, for one, it's not just good for games.
Also think that codec support for a variety of audio/video filetypes should be built in. Working avi support for one. I have gigs and gigs of video i've shot and converted to avi because over the years digital storage space has not been as prevalent or as cheap as it is today.
One day i'll have everything converted to .mp4, but this is years of home video we are talking about. I'd like to play it to a tv through the device without it crashing sometime in the next calendar year, which won't be happening with having to convert it all to .mp4 first.
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Also, not a huge deal at all, but the CAPS/ALT LEDs function would be nice too.
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No detail too small - and i'd hardly dismiss any part of the hardware not functioning properly as no big thing. I don't think that's being unreasonable?
Sometimes it can be a convoluted process on the dev side to get the most basic of things working right. In the context of a wish list the various little things that bug people, or that they think would be cool to have are the gems this thread is aiming to find.
I like this thread! I agree with most people's answers.
We definitely should have working TV out.
We should have our Alt and Caps light working and all other capabilities of the harware keyboard as it was THE reason I bought this over Sensation at the time of purchase
DS camera should be included or at least an equal or better replacement. Losing face detection, burst shot, panorama, and 1080P is not a step forward.
What I hear people saying is...(or maybe it's just how I feel) our phone has some really great features out of the box and it would be nice if we could take that strong base and develop it further to add more options and tweaks without having to sacrifice the best features of our ROM. Maintaining these features and bringing ICS or JB to the table would be fabulous but honestly, if we just made our own base ROM more feature rich, I could live with that....maybe dress it up with some better themes.
It's those little things missing from ROMs that make me always come back to the stock based ROMs. I just brought Netflix to a friend's house last night by hooking my phone to his TV and I caught him up on Walking Dead. I'll personally take that ability over a few points on a benchmark or something.
Trackpad wake/sleep is another for me. I LOVE that when I'm on a stock based ROM like Bulletproof and MikTouch that when I hear a notifaction sound of a text, I can comfortably hit the trackpad to wake the phone but not unlock, read the text and then put the phone back to sleep with the same button.....same thing when I want to check the time.
It's the little things...
Oh yeah that sixaxis feature that Blue6IX has been hoping for since day one does sound pretty awesome!!
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Just hit me (my bad if anyone else mentioned this) that annoying issue with the power button where at the same time to goes to sleep and pulls up the "power menu?" Not sure if that's what its called.
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Just hit me (my bad if anyone else mentioned this) that annoying issue with the power button where at the same time to goes to sleep and pulls up the "power menu?" Not sure if that's what its called.
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I know that was an issue on the GB ROMs. Which are you running?
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