You may have noticed a lot of thread have been moved to other forums.
I've just taken over as the mod of this fourm, and am trying to tidy it up a little.
Can everyone please refrain from posting any new threads in the DEV forum, unless it's for a new build or something related directly to development.
All other posts should go in the General or Themes & Apps forum.
Thanks
I'll get straight to the point....
Despite stickys and forum announcements most of us are still finding ourselves becoming terribly, terribly vexed at the amount of [Q]'s cluttering the dev section...
Therefore, from now on, if you do not follow the rules outlined below, you will be infracted. Break them again and you may find yourself unable to post anything at all on any forum!!
[Q]Surely thats a bit harsh aint it??
[A]Not really....
We've tried to be nice about it but that clearly doesnt work.
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If you cannot read and abide by the simple rules in this sticky then I dont know how you're going to manage to hack your device without running into trouble.
The Dev section is NOT for asking questions.....
The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
All threads posted MUST be prefixed with a description of the thread, [ROM] / [Kernel] etc etc.....*
*(Not planning on being particuarly strict on this. You guys (the devs), know how to title a thread.... just a pointer for new devs.)
Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
Pretty simple really.....
If you see something that shouldnt be here then PM me....
I will try to check in as reguarly as I can but I have a few sections to keep an eye on and believe it or not, a life outside XDA
Yes thats right, there is life outside XDA
I moved all the stock Roms to the General Section in an effort to keep the Development forums for Developing roms.
zelendel said:
I moved all the stock Roms to the General Section in an effort to keep the Development forums for Developing roms.
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The issues I see with this is 1: it causes fragmentation on where to find ROMs and 2: if the person who put out the ROM decides at a later date to start customizing beyond stock, it is then technically in the wrong section unless they create a new thread in development
beerbaronstatic said:
The issues I see with this is 1: it causes fragmentation on where to find ROMs and 2: if the person who put out the ROM decides at a later date to start customizing beyond stock, it is then technically in the wrong section unless they create a new thread in development
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I will be making a sticky with the links to the stock roms. And sense there really shouldnt be more then one thread for the stock release it will keep things a little cleaner. If they decide to make a custom rom off the stock then they are free to make a thread in the Dev section for the custom rom and its Development. This is the way it is done in the Captivate section that I came from and a few other devices and has worked out pretty well in keeping only Dev related things in the Dev section
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I will be making a sticky with the links to the stock roms. And sense there really shouldnt be more then one thread for the stock release it will keep things a little cleaner. If they decide to make a custom rom off the stock then they are free to make a thread in the Dev section for the custom rom and its Development. This is the way it is done in the Captivate section that I came from and a few other devices and has worked out pretty well in keeping only Dev related things in the Dev section
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Sounds good, thanks for the reply!
Ok guys I am in the process of making Q&A threads in the Q&A section for each rom. Please use these before opening new threads. In an effort to clean up the forums I will be removing out dated threads and cleaning things up. I am hoping this will reduce the clutter in the threads and will help new people find answers easier.
Oh I am so confused. LOL. You are the boss zelendel and I don't want to cross you anymore. So now we have QnA for each ROM, can we not post anything anymore in the Dev's thread? Most everything posted in a Dev's thread is a question of some sort. Can you add this, why did you do this, can you fix this, is this happening to anybody else, and so on.....
What are we allowed to post there? I mean it is so different than almost every other section here on the forum. Cross posters from other sections will continue to post as they always have. I don't want to come across as a dumb butt as I am not. I happen to be an admin and mod on 8 other phone forums. But not developer forums which this is. But to find a ROM I have to look in 2 different sections and ask questions about it in a third. How is this cleaning anything up?
The Q&A threads are for general ROM related questions like how do i flash this, ect. It also saves the kids from having to go around deleting the threads that are used to by pass the 10 post rule just so they can post a question in the dev section. The main ROM threads are for technical discussions. You can still post there but this will remove a lot of the junk from the dev threads.
I use this set up in the captivate section and it was well recieved by users and Developers alike. It kept the dev threads cleaned up and people still could ask their questions without needing 10 posts.
This is test run 2 of this set up. If it works out again then it just may become the norm. One thread to get the ROM and one for questions.
zelendel said:
The Q&A threads are for general ROM related questions like how do i flash this, ect. It also saves the kids from having to go around deleting the threads that are used to by pass the 10 post rule just so they can post a question in the dev section. The main ROM threads are for technical discussions. You can still post there but this will remove a lot of the junk from the dev threads.
I use this set up in the captivate section and it was well recieved by users and Developers alike. It kept the dev threads cleaned up and people still could ask their questions without needing 10 posts.
This is test run 2 of this set up. If it works out again then it just may become the norm. One thread to get the ROM and one for questions.
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Sorry dude but that is not organized at all the post will get lost you should keep all ROM's and posting related to said ROM together. And I was on the Captivate forum didn't work there either IMO..
dpmurphy81 said:
Sorry dude but that is not organized at all the post will get lost you should keep all ROM's and posting related to said ROM together. And I was on the Captivate forum didn't work there either IMO..
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I have to agree this does not seem to make much sense. Instead of keeping all the rom threads together they will now be dispersed among the 4 sub-forums?
Why is the date in not American? I just had to point that out.
Was this really a problem that needed fixing? While yes there were a lot of stupid questions at times, the open discussion about the ROM performance, tips, tweaks, and problems leads to many people who aren't in the development process sharing information with each other and the developers, and leads to everyone being able to help each other figure things out. Now it just seems like people are going to be confused as to where to talk about the ROM, as all the information will be fragmented now. It would make more sense to just rename the Dev section to something like "ROM Development And Discussion" and create a new section with limited access threads that would be like a ROM library and newsletter. That way, one could go there to get the latest downloads and information, and still be able to get help and discuss the ROM in the same place they always have. Of course, this is just my opinion, did you ever think about starting a discussion with everyone to get ideas and opinions on how things should be sorted?
And IMHO, phrases like "Iron Fist" and "only gonna ask once" aren't a quality examples of good people skills. Maybe something like, I dunno, asking someone to make changes to facilitate the move to a new format might work better.
Thank you this was a helpful post, im use to ROM with windows phone new to android
I've been trying to post questions on the development forum to get questions answered but keep getting a screen that says i am not allowed to post on dev forums. Will this always be the case or do i eventually get to post on devs threads? Thanx in advance
you need at least 10 posts.You can easily get 10 posts by going into apps and games and write stuff like : thanks a lot Pretty cool app etc
You are required to have a certain amount of posts in order to get into the dev section. If you have questions post it in the Q&A section so that the Dev section doesnt get crowded. Remember, the dev section is not for questions, it is for software releases.
johnston9234 said:
You are required to have a certain amount of posts in order to get into the dev section. If you have questions post it in the Q&A section so that the Dev section doesnt get crowded. Remember, the dev section is not for questions, it is for software releases.
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the reason for me needing to post on the dev forum is actually for feedback cause ive been testing a couple of different roms and updates just wanted to give back some information as in request from some of the devs.
I just wanted to quell some of the confusion Reguarding Topics , What goes into the Dev section, General Section Q N A etc.
Development section,
Roms Tweaks Kernels
What the dev's truly want in there threads is this Bug Tracking Logcat's (minus your personal info Please prune the logcat or expunge your personal info and Imei number if its listed)
These threads are For development.
General section pretty much anything goes normally its a off topic discussion thread.
Q N A section
This is where Ultimately And the mods do try there best to Migrate posts to this.
This Sub fourm is what its actually intended for Simple questions like Do i need to flash this or wipe that what are the mounts so on so forth those do not belong in the Dev threads..
Also most Mods normally stick guides in there How to use a rom kitchen so on so forth..
Themes sub fourm
As applicable questions regarding how to theme a rom or how to modify status bars etc..
Normally also includes other peoples themes so on so forth etc...
I know this is just a simple synapse as to the general layout and i am in no means the mod of the sgs4g section of xda. But Generally thats what the fourm layout is for..
@Raver
+1
+1 raver
i remem once upon a time i made a thread like this and got my ass flamed, i agree with you 100% im just saying be prepared to get flamed by the assholes
The only thing I see missing is a guide to people creating stuff in the Dev section. Like starting a q&a thread once you release a [dev][rom][tweak] or the likes. Making sure its linked in the op of your thread.
I mention this because people are more likely to post questions in a q&a thread started by the dev then little billy that has 3 posts and never posts again. Plus if a dev starts it people will think since he started it he is monitoring it.
Hello and thank you for this great rom. Is there someone who will make the correction for GSM on n8000 and apk phone?
Thank you.
I'm confused..what great ROM?
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Is this supposed to be a request thread?
repair
Yes, does not work at all and GSM and phone application. Version iokp_n8000_official_2013-12-01.zip and iokp_n8000_official_2013-12-28.zip. That's why I started this thread.
I'm confused! I need an adult!
Airtioteclint said:
Is this supposed to be a request thread?
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milanez said:
Yes, does not work at all and GSM and phone application. Version iokp_n8000_official_2013-12-01.zip and iokp_n8000_official_2013-12-28.zip. That's why I started this thread.
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You know the forum rules, and guidelines, that XDA makes you see when signing up? and how they go above and beyond to try to get users to take a moment to read? They stress the importance of following rules, for this exact reason, to keep forums clean and organized, yet people still don't pay any attention.
This is not a request forum, this is why your post is confusing people. This is development forum where developers post their ROMs, and work. Users are expecting a download, yet they are presented with this.
Please take the time to read the rules! I am sorry if I come off as a jerk, I don't mean to.. But being a member of this site so long, it gets frustrating after awhile when users continuously do not pay attention to the rules, especially since XDA goes above and beyond to make users read and understand the rules.
15. Keep threads / posts on-topic
Whilst a minor amount of off-topic posting may be overlooked, the general rule is that your posts / threads must be relevant to the Forum / thread in which you are posting.
General Forums - For news and announcements relating to your device.
Q&A Help & Troubleshooting Forums - FOR ALL QUESTIONS / REQUEST THREADS AND POSTS. If there is no Q&A Help & Troubleshooting forum, use the General Forum of the relevant device
Accessories Forum - For posts related to accessories relevant to the device
Development Forums (ones with the word development in the title) - For Developers to post release threads e.g. ROMs and Kernels including modifications to kernels, bootloaders, ROMs, etc.
Themes and Apps Forums - For the posting of Themes and / or Apps as well as announcements & discussions*including*modifications made to Themes and Apps.
You can click here to read the full list of official rules, and guidelines.
Click here to go to the proper forum for your request.
You will probably have better luck with your request being answered there anyways.
@lifeofcoding good luck on your quest of being moderator. But why quote me?