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Really curious about this. Looking at the registry settings below. If this is all that's required for a device to be converted to an unlocked developer device, would it be possible to bypass Chevron completely and just manually edit the registry? And if so...would this not mean that the same method could be applied even when the new wp7 update comes out? I realize that not all handsets allow full registry editing prior to being unlocked and modified, but for those that do allow it, might this be an option?
-Allow max number of unsignd apps
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\DeviceReg\Install]
"MaxUnsignedApp"=dword:7fffffff
-Prevent Relock for ChevronWP7 unlocked device
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\DeviceReg]
"PortalUrlProd"=""
"PortalUrlInt"=""
-Developer Unlock the device(this is what chevron apply)
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Security\LVMod]
"DeveloperUnlockState"=dword:1
I tried to edit my registry file and it errors saying i cant edit the file. my phone is unlocked by chevron, and hasn't been upgraded yet. how do i edit the registry file.
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I tried to edit my registry file and it errors saying i cant edit the file. my phone is unlocked by chevron, and hasn't been upgraded yet. how do i edit the registry file.
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uhm i've only looked into lg handsets, myself. they all come with registry editing through the manufacturer configuration menu which allows full registry access. you'd have to look at your specific phone to see if it gives registry editing options in a similar method.
im pretty sure it should work.
the HTC HD7 as far as I know doesnt have a mfg built in reg editor. My phone is unlocked at the moment, but I'm sure that the NODO update will overwrite my reg file and revert it back to locked mode. And that being said the reg editor probably wont work. Argh.. sucks, but Im sure there's a way to work around all this. I mean, its windows, the most hacked os in existence!
I'm almost tempted to do a full reset on my phone again and try to change the registry settings on their own without using Chevron to see if it will be unlocked or not. Because of it works, then those with MFG apps will be able to set dev mode regardless of any software update. And through that there may be methods that can be used to do something similar on other phones.
It might work for LG owners, yes. However, few knows yet what the fix in NoDo entails. I guess we're just gonna have to wait and see. And hope that the MS-Chevron interim homebrew solution will be a reality and not lag too much.
By the way, this alone seemingly doesn't result in a fully developer unlocked state. Debugging on the phone with Visual Studio is resisting, for example. Devtool app deployer works though.
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It might work for LG owners, yes. However, few knows yet what the fix in NoDo entails. I guess we're just gonna have to wait and see. And hope that the MS-Chevron interim homebrew solution will be a reality and not lag too much.
By the way, this alone seemingly doesn't result in a fully developer unlocked state. Debugging on the phone with Visual Studio is resisting, for example. Devtool app deployer works though.
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Works on LG indeed.
This has been discussed weeks ago, both here and in the LG Optimus 7 dev board. Yes, this is possible through the built-in registry editor, and no Chevron or certificate by email is needed. The registry editor is a little spartan, but works flawlessly, and can change just about any key or entry.
The only other device I know, or I think I know that has a registry editor is Dell Venue Pro...right? If so, someone should give this a try on their DVP...
Well I was referring to it working or not after NoDo arrives, which was what the OP was pondering.
kapanak said:
This has been discussed weeks ago, both here and in the LG Optimus 7 dev board. Yes, this is possible through the built-in registry editor, and no Chevron or certificate by email is needed. The registry editor is a little spartan, but works flawlessly, and can change just about any key or entry.
The only other device I know, or I think I know that has a registry editor is Dell Venue Pro...right? If so, someone should give this a try on their DVP...
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dvp == no registry editor ...
we're trying to get donation set up for chris walsh to help us with getting just that. we're tired of waiting on dell to fix something they're not interested in. It's ridiculous
If you used ChevronWP7 or Chris Walsh's tools to update your WP7 phone to NODO, and now you can't update to the latest May release (7932) then here is the fix you have been looking for! This tool allows the restoration of your phone such that it can be updated through Zune again. All credits goto Chris Walsh. No need to downgrade from NODO or mess around with your ROM!
Source:
http://blog.walshie.me/walshed-phone-support-tool-official-fix-to-get-you-back-on-track
Obviously use "wpst_x86_2.zip" for 32-bit and "wpst_x64_2.zip" for 64-bit Win7/Vista. Make sure you have at least .NET Framework 4.0 installed.
Instructions:
1) Sync your favorite WP7 to your PC
2) If Zune loads, let Zune sync with your WP7 phone, establish a connection, then kill Zune
3) Run the Chris Walsh program "WPST.exe"
4) Read the onscreen instructions and wait for the update to complete
5) Try updating phone in Zune after Chris Walsh fix
How do I find out exactly what languages are installed?
Settings
distortion said:
How do I find out exactly what languages are installed?
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"Settings", "Keyboard" tap in "Keyboard Languages" field.
Hello my Samsung Focus only at 7390 now, and i didn't see 7392 update from zune. but it doesn't show any error either.
how do i download 7392 update ????
SIM Unlocked Samsung Focus, my carrier is Indosat (Indonesia)
Have you unbranded your phone?
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minori_aoi said:
Hello my Samsung Focus only at 7390 now, and i didn't see 7392 update from zune. but it doesn't show any error either.
how do i download 7392 update ????
SIM Unlocked Samsung Focus, my carrier is Indosat (Indonesia)
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You need
- the phone to be unlocked (Chevron)
- WP7 Root tools
- Read Unbranding your phone for updates thread
- Read Prevent relock thread
1. Install WP7 Root tools.
2. Do the "Prevent relock" reg hack.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\DeviceReg]
"PortalUrlProd"=""
"PortalUrlInt"=""
3. Do the "Unbrand" reg hack
HKLM\System\Platform\DeviceTargetingInfo\MobileOperator
Edit it and instead of "ATT-US" (original value) leave blank
4. Connect to Zune and update to 7392
I have a Focus updated to 7392
LE: alternatively, you can also sideload and run Samsung Tools and tick "remove sideload limit", "prevent relock" and " enable 3g".
This hasn't worked for me, I am still getting the update error.
Any other suggestions?
I originally flashed an Ansar VF NZ rom, it allows me to update to 7008, but fails with 80180048 on 7392.
Hard reset, Walsh's tool. still no go..
Anyone?
Yes. Flash the Rogers rom and start over. Something's not working properly and you can try to spend a lot of time trying to find out what it is or you can enjoy the phone. Your call.
I'm suggesting Rogers rom, because the while AT&T has apps (will you use'em?) it doesn't support sms delivery notification. Also, Rogers rom is closest to original Samsung rom.
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Yes. Flash the Rogers rom and start over. Something's not working properly and you can try to spend a lot of time trying to find out what it is or you can enjoy the phone. Your call.
I'm suggesting Rogers rom, because the while AT&T has apps (will you use'em?) it doesn't support sms delivery notification. Also, Rogers rom is closest to original Samsung rom.
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Was this directed at my question?
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Was this directed at my question?
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Yup. You can at least figure out if it's a software, hardware or firmware problem. GL
Did the update. Is there any reason to rebrand the phone after the update? Or can I just leave ATT-US blank?
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Did the update. Is there any reason to rebrand the phone after the update? Or can I just leave ATT-US blank?
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Your call. It's not like AT&T is going to offer the Mango update any time soon
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Your call. It's not like AT&T is going to offer the Mango update any time soon
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Yeah, from what I've read, there is no rush... When AT&T does offer Mango, will I have to add it then?
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Yeah, from what I've read, there is no rush... When AT&T does offer Mango, will I have to add it then?
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If you really want the additional stuff AT&T will put in it, yes. Otherwise you can probably get the "official" update like everyone else. Again, your call
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If you really want the additional stuff AT&T will put in it, yes. Otherwise you can probably get the "official" update like everyone else. Again, your call
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If by Additional stuff, you mean Bloatware, etc, then I'm fine thanks!
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If by Additional stuff, you mean Bloatware, etc, then I'm fine thanks!
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WP7 doesn't really have bloatware. All the preinstalled ATT apps can be deleted. ATT did provide a WiFi sniffer that looked for free ATT WiFi spots and automatically connected without intervention from the user. I think this and the ability to import ATT contacts came only to ATT branded phones with the 7390 update
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WP7 doesn't really have bloatware. All the preinstalled ATT apps can be deleted. ATT did provide a WiFi sniffer that looked for free ATT WiFi spots and automatically connected without intervention from the user. I think this and the ability to import ATT contacts came only to ATT branded phones with the 7390 update
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That's what I said What do you call something you don't use and that occupies space otherwise? Plus you do have to delete those apps to free space, so those are extra steps. As for the Wispr, Mango (including this beta) offers this connectivity generic. For contacts, I have no clue what ATT contacts are but Outlook sync works perfectly.
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That's what I said What do you call something you don't use and that occupies space otherwise? Plus you do have to delete those apps to free space, so those are extra steps. As for the Wispr, Mango (including this beta) offers this connectivity generic. For contacts, I have no clue what ATT contacts are but Outlook sync works perfectly.
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I'm looking forward to the official Mango update, and will see what happens then. Thanks for all your good input!
i was a HD2 use untill yesterday, now i have a HD7. my problems is that I have a Dev account and i unlocked the HD7. but i cannot sideload more than couple of app. i try the registry edit to do it manually but i keep getting that the path in hidden (install\MaxUnsignedApp not showing). i also try the removesideloadlimit app and it works but it stop working and work and stop working.....
You need to use the HTC Connection Setup method of editing the registry once you are on Mango to do any registry edits, including the one to allow more than 3/10 sideloaded apps.
A search of the forums will answer questions on how to do this.
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You need to use the HTC Connection Setup method of editing the registry once you are on Mango to do any registry edits, including the one to allow more than 3/10 sideloaded apps.
A search of the forums will answer questions on how to do this.
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Thanks for the info, but I do not want to go to mango. I want to stay in NoDo. I just want the ability to sideload application like in the hd2, no limit. I have look all over the wp7 forum and hd7, but I keep finding is removing sideload limit app (it works but Zune block it after a while) and the registry (dont work, because I cannot find the folder to change the key) and adv config. ( don't seen to work)
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Thanks for the info, but I do not want to go to mango. I want to stay in NoDo. I just want the ability to sideload application like in the hd2, no limit. I have look all over the wp7 forum and hd7, but I keep finding is removing sideload limit app (it works but Zune block it after a while) and the registry (dont work, because I cannot find the folder to change the key) and adv config. ( don't seen to work)
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Sorry, didn't realize you weren't on Mango. Despite that, the process is the same as has been described in any posts you have found. The registry needs to be edited. If Zune is restoring your settings, its because the official dev unlock will always limit the number of apps. You'll need to do a Chevron unlock in order to get the limit removed.
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Sorry, didn't realize you weren't on Mango. Despite that, the process is the same as has been described in any posts you have found. The registry needs to be edited. If Zune is restoring your settings, its because the official dev unlock will always limit the number of apps. You'll need to do a Chevron unlock in order to get the limit removed.
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Thanks, I will do that. If I can figure it out. In the hd2 the rom comes already with NoDo and chevron. I think with the hd7 I have to downgrade before anything.
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In NoDo, just use a registry editor. Than add key to create the hidden keys/values. This is how I did it before provxml & is easier if you're only doing a few edits. Also, certain apps have an option to apply this for you such as Advanced Configuration Tool.
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
In NoDo, just use a registry editor. Than add key to create the hidden keys/values. This is how I did it before provxml & is easier if you're only doing a few edits. Also, certain apps have an option to apply this for you such as Advanced Configuration Tool.
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Advanced configuration tool didn't, and the registry I couldn't apply because I couldn't find the key under "devicereg". I think it was Zune resetting my limit sine I had a original dev unlock key. But I just downgrade to 7004/7008 and unlocked the phone with chevron and then updated to NoDo. Everything looks like its working fine.
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Hello!
Some of you may know that on LG Optimus 7 there's a tool caled MFG which enables user to test, change some advanced settings and what is most important here is registry edition.
Let me describe my story. I bought my phone updated to beta mango and I wanted to unlock it. According to manuals, I changed DeveloperUnlockState, PortalUrlProd and PortalUrlInt in appropriate paths. Rebooted the phone, connected to Zne, disconnected, checked registry entries, they were OK.
But when I want to deploy application, the programme is stuck on preparing.
The second thing, starting from Beta Mango I wanted to update it to RTM version with polish language, added registry value and ran update. It didn't do anything.
I start to imply that registry in Mango is quite different from one known from Mango. Anyone to confirm my supposition?
Best wishes,
paksio
For the first issue I can say that it worked fine for 6617, 7712 and 7720. The usual registry keys are still working fine on all builds to unlock the phone...
When I have time I will try to unlock my girlfriends Optimus 7 with the MFG app.
She is on RTM Mango.
Cyruss89 said:
When I have time I will try to unlock my girlfriends Optimus 7 with the MFG app.
She is on RTM Mango.
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Waiting impatiently for your results.
Maybe the question has been answered thousand times before, but I couldn't find some mango specific stuff.
What is the difference? my Omnia 7 is developer unlocked and it's on the latest zune version. I'm able to deploy my self made xaps but not any kind of homebrew. I found some homebrew that should work on omnia7 with mango, like a wifi toggle, but it doesn't. Even sometimes my own xaps do not work.
Any advice?
a few things
with a jailbreak, you can sideload any number of apps. With a dev unlock you can sideload only 10 (3 if you're a student).
with a jailbreak, you can use TouchXplorer, which is basically a file explorer. This leads to possibilities of editing the registry. You can't with a dev unlock.
most homebrew which uses low-level access (native code) will not work with a mango dev unlock. most of them won't even work with a jailbreak, but some do.
if you're looking for a wifi toggle type app, there are good apps now in the mango marketplace. Try Network Dashboard (prettier) or Connectivity Shortcuts (not as pretty). They both give one click access to wifi, bluetooth, airplane mode, and cellular settings.
in the end, to most people, a jailbreak's main advantage is the removal of the sideload limit. so if that's your thing, go for it. otherwise a dev unlock is not bad.
(there's also something called a FullUnlock, which allows you to run native code... this bit's still under development, so i wouldn't be worrying about this for a few weeks yet.)
Cheers.
Thank you, helped me a lot. So there are many advantages of a jailbreak. File explorer sounds interesting.
Am I right that there is no easy method for me to jailbreak without to flash back to nodo?
All you need to do to have mango "jail break":
1. Apply HSPL/RSPL (see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195647).
2. Flash the new DFT 7720 mango rom (see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255143)
Good luck!
Lidanh said:
All you need to do to have mango "jail break":
1. Apply HSPL/RSPL (see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195647).
2. Flash the new DFT 7720 mango rom (see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255143)
Good luck!
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We must stop saying "jailbreak", it reminds me the iPhone.
Lets just say unlocked or in future and thanks to Cotulla "Fullunlock".
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dotcompt said:
We must stop saying "jailbreak", it reminds me the iPhone.
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Totally agree WTF we should use this @$&*@^[email protected] iPhone terms?
We so poor and can't find a good different words?
Cotulla said:
Totally agree WTF we should use this @$&*@^[email protected] iPhone terms?
We so poor and can't find a good different words?
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there was a term on wm4/5
edit: got it , "application unlock" was the name of it back in the wm times
I say "DevUnlock" & "FullUnlock" as Chevron is a DevUnlock. FullUnlock would the closest thing to a "Jailbreak/Root" IMO. DevUnlock allows homebrew (Pre-Mango), but it still isn't low level root access short of Heathcliff's Root Tools, which isn't completed yet. FullUnlock IMO is going to be the future of a real "Jailbreak/Root" solution for WP7 with full root/admin access even after Mango. The perfect example of this is that the registry editors we currently have can't display all directories. The "no information available" message for certain directories like "HKLM:System\."
this is from the wiki "http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Glossary#Application_Unlock"
Cotulla said:
Totally agree WTF we should use this @$&*@^[email protected] iPhone terms?
We so poor and can't find a good different words?
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Should we open a new thread with a Poll? So far we have DevUnlock, FullUnlock, Application Unlock.
I´ll vote for the "FullUnlock" too and I am ready to open a new Thread with a Poll but I will not consider "Jailbreak".
Any more Terms?
Quick question.... Unlocking with chevron, is it the EXACT same as if you were to officially dev unlock it? I don't think so?
If I am correct then there should be a DevUnlocked, ChevronUnlocked and FullUnlocked or FullyUnlocked?
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PsyCLown89 said:
Quick question.... Unlocking with chevron, is it the EXACT same as if you were to officially dev unlock it? I don't think so?
If I am correct then there should be a DevUnlocked, ChevronUnlocked and FullUnlocked or FullyUnlocked?
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Chevron Unlock is DevUnlock. It just uses a security hole that allowed using a custom server/cert, but in the end it just performs a simple registry change of the DeveloperUnlockState entry.There's a few other hack like the prevent relock registry edit & the unlimited side loaded app one, but these can be done with either Chevron or Official methods with the homebrew registry editors.
Ok, so it is really the same thing... Just a few extras may need to be done to properly devunlock your phone (sideload limit etc.)
Well DevUnlocked and FullyUnlocked sound good. Although a name for a ful dev unlocked phone may not be a bad idea? What do you guys think?
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Chevron vs Dev unlock
If Chevron is exactly same as DevUnlock, then tell me: I am registered Dev with HTC HD7, Mango beta2 and dev unlocked phone, I am unable to install TouchXplorer, but as far as I have found people using Chevron are able to install it to Mango (I've tried official deployment tool and Xap Installer too - error in both cases)
I have also read, that with Mango it's not possible to install application using ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES capabality - most of Homebrew apps got this.
So is Chevron really same as dev unlock?
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If Chevron is exactly same as DevUnlock, then tell me: I am registered Dev with HTC HD7, Mango beta2 and dev unlocked phone, I am unable to install TouchXplorer, but as far as I have found people using Chevron are able to install it to Mango (I've tried official deployment tool and Xap Installer too - error in both cases)
I have also read, that with Mango it's not possible to install application using ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES capabality - most of Homebrew apps got this.
So is Chevron really same as dev unlock?
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The only people I have heard being able to side load INTEROPSERVICES are Samsung users. It is in my opinion that they're getting an incomplete update process that doesn't properly update pacmaninstaller.exe, which is the exe that installs XAP & has been taken apart & found to have the block for INTEROPSERVICES. All Chevron does is apply a registry change, the same registry change that the official Dev Unlock does. It just uses a custom cert installed through a security hole that was fixed in NoDo.
Install other language
Now this is really interesting! If I understand it correctly, the only chance for me with dev unlocked HTC HD7 with Mango beta2 to enable other language, Czech in my case, is to downgrade to NoDo using my backup, install the registry changes and then go to Mango. That's not an easy solution for Czech WP developers
Too bad there is no "hack" for enabling interopservices in Mango, it wil be much easier then
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Now this is really interesting! If I understand it correctly, the only chance for me with dev unlocked HTC HD7 with Mango beta2 to enable other language, Czech in my case, is to downgrade to NoDo using my backup, install the registry changes and then go to Mango. That's not an easy solution for Czech WP developers
Too bad there is no "hack" for enabling interopservices in Mango, it wil be much easier then
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All you need to do is a registry hack? If so & your have TouchXplorer sideloaded already from when you were in NoDo, you can create a CustClear.provxml with those registry values. Copy it to your phone using the USB Storage enabler & than move it to \Windows\ with TouchXplorer. Than just run HTC Connection Setup. It'll import the registry changes in the CustClear.provxml.
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drkfngthdragnlrd said:
All you need to do is a registry hack? If so & your have TouchXplorer sideloaded already from when you were in NoDo, you can create a CustClear.provxml with those registry values. Copy it to your phone using the USB Storage enabler & than move it to \Windows\ with TouchXplorer. Than just run HTC Connection Setup. It'll import the registry changes in the CustClear.provxml.
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I know about the HTC Connection Setup registry trick, but I joined Dev like two weeks ago... until then I have not used any hacks or sideloaded apps. And now with Mango beta2 I can't install TouchXplorer
I got a plan - once final Mango is released in Zune, I'm gonna restore NoDo backup, Dev unlock, do all the registry stuff and then install final Mango using Zune...
Edit: When I remove the ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES from TouchXplorer XAP, it installs now, but it shows no entries. Same for DiagProvXMLv0.7 - it installs when I remove the line, it even looks like it's working, but no matter what entries I add using this app, nothing happens.