Really curious about this. Looking at the registry settings below. If this is all that's required for a device to be converted to an unlocked developer device, would it be possible to bypass Chevron completely and just manually edit the registry? And if so...would this not mean that the same method could be applied even when the new wp7 update comes out? I realize that not all handsets allow full registry editing prior to being unlocked and modified, but for those that do allow it, might this be an option?
-Allow max number of unsignd apps
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\DeviceReg\Install]
"MaxUnsignedApp"=dword:7fffffff
-Prevent Relock for ChevronWP7 unlocked device
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\DeviceReg]
"PortalUrlProd"=""
"PortalUrlInt"=""
-Developer Unlock the device(this is what chevron apply)
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Security\LVMod]
"DeveloperUnlockState"=dword:1
I tried to edit my registry file and it errors saying i cant edit the file. my phone is unlocked by chevron, and hasn't been upgraded yet. how do i edit the registry file.
ycwkpp898 said:
I tried to edit my registry file and it errors saying i cant edit the file. my phone is unlocked by chevron, and hasn't been upgraded yet. how do i edit the registry file.
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uhm i've only looked into lg handsets, myself. they all come with registry editing through the manufacturer configuration menu which allows full registry access. you'd have to look at your specific phone to see if it gives registry editing options in a similar method.
im pretty sure it should work.
the HTC HD7 as far as I know doesnt have a mfg built in reg editor. My phone is unlocked at the moment, but I'm sure that the NODO update will overwrite my reg file and revert it back to locked mode. And that being said the reg editor probably wont work. Argh.. sucks, but Im sure there's a way to work around all this. I mean, its windows, the most hacked os in existence!
I'm almost tempted to do a full reset on my phone again and try to change the registry settings on their own without using Chevron to see if it will be unlocked or not. Because of it works, then those with MFG apps will be able to set dev mode regardless of any software update. And through that there may be methods that can be used to do something similar on other phones.
It might work for LG owners, yes. However, few knows yet what the fix in NoDo entails. I guess we're just gonna have to wait and see. And hope that the MS-Chevron interim homebrew solution will be a reality and not lag too much.
By the way, this alone seemingly doesn't result in a fully developer unlocked state. Debugging on the phone with Visual Studio is resisting, for example. Devtool app deployer works though.
__ow said:
It might work for LG owners, yes. However, few knows yet what the fix in NoDo entails. I guess we're just gonna have to wait and see. And hope that the MS-Chevron interim homebrew solution will be a reality and not lag too much.
By the way, this alone seemingly doesn't result in a fully developer unlocked state. Debugging on the phone with Visual Studio is resisting, for example. Devtool app deployer works though.
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Works on LG indeed.
This has been discussed weeks ago, both here and in the LG Optimus 7 dev board. Yes, this is possible through the built-in registry editor, and no Chevron or certificate by email is needed. The registry editor is a little spartan, but works flawlessly, and can change just about any key or entry.
The only other device I know, or I think I know that has a registry editor is Dell Venue Pro...right? If so, someone should give this a try on their DVP...
Well I was referring to it working or not after NoDo arrives, which was what the OP was pondering.
kapanak said:
This has been discussed weeks ago, both here and in the LG Optimus 7 dev board. Yes, this is possible through the built-in registry editor, and no Chevron or certificate by email is needed. The registry editor is a little spartan, but works flawlessly, and can change just about any key or entry.
The only other device I know, or I think I know that has a registry editor is Dell Venue Pro...right? If so, someone should give this a try on their DVP...
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dvp == no registry editor ...
we're trying to get donation set up for chris walsh to help us with getting just that. we're tired of waiting on dell to fix something they're not interested in. It's ridiculous
I thought I was only having problems with the Samsung Tools when I try to sideload the xap file. But I tried other xap files and it still gives me the same error: "Please make sure your phone was unlocked..."
But my phone is unlocked.
Now, I'm thinking that I can't install anymore because I've reached my max. And when I try to do the registry tweak (from the forum) to allow max number of apps, it won't let me. I've tried with the Registry Editor and the SamsungRegistry app to no avail.
Can someone please help me! I have a samsung focus and the tools available here seem to work only for HTC devices. Thanks.
Im having the problem of reaching the max number, i deployed an app and recieved the message that ive reached the maximum, so im going to try and edit the registry untill i find the answer.
but, i think this may be the answer..
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\DeviceReg\Install]
"MaxUnsignedApp"=dword:7fffffff
&& install is one word, but for some reason on my browser its showing "in stall"
There is already an app for that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916098
Zune set the limit back at a regular basis, so rerun the app before deploying a new xap.
I couldn't edit the registry since I had a Focus. However, I forgot that I had the advanced config app and there was a button on it to allow for max number of apps. I'm good now!!!
Focus with NoDo and an unlocked phone!!!
Woooohooooo!!!
Thank you everyone for being soooo smart! I also am using the XDA app. Pretty amazing!!
Sent from my Focus using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I think they have closed the door on the HTC Arrive T7575 from Sprint with the provxml and HTC Connection Setup Hack. T7575 does not respond well to the standalone provxml installer by xboxmod -- it shows "carrier not found in list".
Yesterday (4/13/2011) the HTC Connection Setup worked with the CustClear.provxml in the Windows Folder.
Today (4/14/2011) the HTC Connection Setup program is different and the hack no longer works.
Is there any other way to gain root access to edit the registry on the T7575's? If someeone has something to try, I'll be happy to report the results, as I've hard reset 3 times in the past 24 hours.
Thanks in advance!
Check out this post for more details of my failed efforts: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12876054&postcount=181
EDIT: thinking a bit, does someone have the xap of the old HTC Connection Setup?!
its attached in this "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911579" post .
the name is "HD2-WP7 Activation Tools and Guide.7z" , unzip it and sideload it to the phone , but remember to first install the on that is on the phone right now
Thanks! I found EXACTLY what I was trying to do with this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916098
Going to be diving down the other apps as well to be able to write my own registry values -- thanks again!
CopyCounsler said:
Thanks! I found EXACTLY what I was trying to do with this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916098
Going to be diving down the other apps as well to be able to write my own registry values -- thanks again!
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Worthless on Mango on a Verizon Trophy..."Error Modifying registry" when clicking Set Max
WTF....
Just updated from 7712 to 7720 rtm. However, I hadn't noticed the trick of adding additional languages through a registry editor. Too late for that I guess.
Does anyone know if I can use the LG MFG app for this, and if so what values to add?
If not, is there a way to downgrade back to NoDo?
Thanks
alexschipper said:
Just updated from 7712 to 7720 rtm. However, I hadn't noticed the trick of adding additional languages through a registry editor. Too late for that I guess.
Does anyone know if I can use the LG MFG app for this, and if so what values to add?
If not, is there a way to downgrade back to NoDo?
Thanks
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the original article says that registry cannot be edited on Mango, which we know isn't entirely true, definitely not for LG users. with the registry keys given in the post it should be possible to add your favorite language and connect the device to Zune client and hope for a language update. Hit or miss of course at this point nobody has tried this yet and it could screw up a working phone.
you can downgrade to NoDo if you have a backup. If you followed the threads here to upgrade to 7720 then you should have a backup of a NoDo restore point. You just copy that into your
C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update folder so that it looks something like this with your device ID
C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\f52e4324 - 18eO0804 - 7918db00 - d63473cf
the Zune client should then see the restore point when you connect the phone and go to Settings/Phone/Update. the restore point should be bottom right.
also, you may want to put a question mark on the subject title. people will be disappointed to find that this is not a guide on how to but just a question
Maybe the question has been answered thousand times before, but I couldn't find some mango specific stuff.
What is the difference? my Omnia 7 is developer unlocked and it's on the latest zune version. I'm able to deploy my self made xaps but not any kind of homebrew. I found some homebrew that should work on omnia7 with mango, like a wifi toggle, but it doesn't. Even sometimes my own xaps do not work.
Any advice?
a few things
with a jailbreak, you can sideload any number of apps. With a dev unlock you can sideload only 10 (3 if you're a student).
with a jailbreak, you can use TouchXplorer, which is basically a file explorer. This leads to possibilities of editing the registry. You can't with a dev unlock.
most homebrew which uses low-level access (native code) will not work with a mango dev unlock. most of them won't even work with a jailbreak, but some do.
if you're looking for a wifi toggle type app, there are good apps now in the mango marketplace. Try Network Dashboard (prettier) or Connectivity Shortcuts (not as pretty). They both give one click access to wifi, bluetooth, airplane mode, and cellular settings.
in the end, to most people, a jailbreak's main advantage is the removal of the sideload limit. so if that's your thing, go for it. otherwise a dev unlock is not bad.
(there's also something called a FullUnlock, which allows you to run native code... this bit's still under development, so i wouldn't be worrying about this for a few weeks yet.)
Cheers.
Thank you, helped me a lot. So there are many advantages of a jailbreak. File explorer sounds interesting.
Am I right that there is no easy method for me to jailbreak without to flash back to nodo?
All you need to do to have mango "jail break":
1. Apply HSPL/RSPL (see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195647).
2. Flash the new DFT 7720 mango rom (see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255143)
Good luck!
Lidanh said:
All you need to do to have mango "jail break":
1. Apply HSPL/RSPL (see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195647).
2. Flash the new DFT 7720 mango rom (see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255143)
Good luck!
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We must stop saying "jailbreak", it reminds me the iPhone.
Lets just say unlocked or in future and thanks to Cotulla "Fullunlock".
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dotcompt said:
We must stop saying "jailbreak", it reminds me the iPhone.
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Totally agree WTF we should use this @$&*@^[email protected] iPhone terms?
We so poor and can't find a good different words?
Cotulla said:
Totally agree WTF we should use this @$&*@^[email protected] iPhone terms?
We so poor and can't find a good different words?
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there was a term on wm4/5
edit: got it , "application unlock" was the name of it back in the wm times
I say "DevUnlock" & "FullUnlock" as Chevron is a DevUnlock. FullUnlock would the closest thing to a "Jailbreak/Root" IMO. DevUnlock allows homebrew (Pre-Mango), but it still isn't low level root access short of Heathcliff's Root Tools, which isn't completed yet. FullUnlock IMO is going to be the future of a real "Jailbreak/Root" solution for WP7 with full root/admin access even after Mango. The perfect example of this is that the registry editors we currently have can't display all directories. The "no information available" message for certain directories like "HKLM:System\."
this is from the wiki "http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Glossary#Application_Unlock"
Cotulla said:
Totally agree WTF we should use this @$&*@^[email protected] iPhone terms?
We so poor and can't find a good different words?
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Should we open a new thread with a Poll? So far we have DevUnlock, FullUnlock, Application Unlock.
I´ll vote for the "FullUnlock" too and I am ready to open a new Thread with a Poll but I will not consider "Jailbreak".
Any more Terms?
Quick question.... Unlocking with chevron, is it the EXACT same as if you were to officially dev unlock it? I don't think so?
If I am correct then there should be a DevUnlocked, ChevronUnlocked and FullUnlocked or FullyUnlocked?
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PsyCLown89 said:
Quick question.... Unlocking with chevron, is it the EXACT same as if you were to officially dev unlock it? I don't think so?
If I am correct then there should be a DevUnlocked, ChevronUnlocked and FullUnlocked or FullyUnlocked?
Sent from my 7 Mozart T8698 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Chevron Unlock is DevUnlock. It just uses a security hole that allowed using a custom server/cert, but in the end it just performs a simple registry change of the DeveloperUnlockState entry.There's a few other hack like the prevent relock registry edit & the unlimited side loaded app one, but these can be done with either Chevron or Official methods with the homebrew registry editors.
Ok, so it is really the same thing... Just a few extras may need to be done to properly devunlock your phone (sideload limit etc.)
Well DevUnlocked and FullyUnlocked sound good. Although a name for a ful dev unlocked phone may not be a bad idea? What do you guys think?
Sent from my 7 Mozart T8698 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Chevron vs Dev unlock
If Chevron is exactly same as DevUnlock, then tell me: I am registered Dev with HTC HD7, Mango beta2 and dev unlocked phone, I am unable to install TouchXplorer, but as far as I have found people using Chevron are able to install it to Mango (I've tried official deployment tool and Xap Installer too - error in both cases)
I have also read, that with Mango it's not possible to install application using ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES capabality - most of Homebrew apps got this.
So is Chevron really same as dev unlock?
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If Chevron is exactly same as DevUnlock, then tell me: I am registered Dev with HTC HD7, Mango beta2 and dev unlocked phone, I am unable to install TouchXplorer, but as far as I have found people using Chevron are able to install it to Mango (I've tried official deployment tool and Xap Installer too - error in both cases)
I have also read, that with Mango it's not possible to install application using ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES capabality - most of Homebrew apps got this.
So is Chevron really same as dev unlock?
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The only people I have heard being able to side load INTEROPSERVICES are Samsung users. It is in my opinion that they're getting an incomplete update process that doesn't properly update pacmaninstaller.exe, which is the exe that installs XAP & has been taken apart & found to have the block for INTEROPSERVICES. All Chevron does is apply a registry change, the same registry change that the official Dev Unlock does. It just uses a custom cert installed through a security hole that was fixed in NoDo.
Install other language
Now this is really interesting! If I understand it correctly, the only chance for me with dev unlocked HTC HD7 with Mango beta2 to enable other language, Czech in my case, is to downgrade to NoDo using my backup, install the registry changes and then go to Mango. That's not an easy solution for Czech WP developers
Too bad there is no "hack" for enabling interopservices in Mango, it wil be much easier then
N3croman said:
Now this is really interesting! If I understand it correctly, the only chance for me with dev unlocked HTC HD7 with Mango beta2 to enable other language, Czech in my case, is to downgrade to NoDo using my backup, install the registry changes and then go to Mango. That's not an easy solution for Czech WP developers
Too bad there is no "hack" for enabling interopservices in Mango, it wil be much easier then
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All you need to do is a registry hack? If so & your have TouchXplorer sideloaded already from when you were in NoDo, you can create a CustClear.provxml with those registry values. Copy it to your phone using the USB Storage enabler & than move it to \Windows\ with TouchXplorer. Than just run HTC Connection Setup. It'll import the registry changes in the CustClear.provxml.
plan
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
All you need to do is a registry hack? If so & your have TouchXplorer sideloaded already from when you were in NoDo, you can create a CustClear.provxml with those registry values. Copy it to your phone using the USB Storage enabler & than move it to \Windows\ with TouchXplorer. Than just run HTC Connection Setup. It'll import the registry changes in the CustClear.provxml.
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I know about the HTC Connection Setup registry trick, but I joined Dev like two weeks ago... until then I have not used any hacks or sideloaded apps. And now with Mango beta2 I can't install TouchXplorer
I got a plan - once final Mango is released in Zune, I'm gonna restore NoDo backup, Dev unlock, do all the registry stuff and then install final Mango using Zune...
Edit: When I remove the ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES from TouchXplorer XAP, it installs now, but it shows no entries. Same for DiagProvXMLv0.7 - it installs when I remove the line, it even looks like it's working, but no matter what entries I add using this app, nothing happens.