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I don't own an MT4G or Panache, but I started this thread for the inevitable arrival of Mobilicity & Videotron customers who would like to mod an HTC Panache. Once the MyTouch 4G Gingerbread update came out, it was found that the Fre3vo root exploit (originally found for the Sensation/Evo 3D) will also temp-root this phone. To get S-OFF you have to roll back to an old Froyo MT4G firmware - from there you can roll back forward to anything you want.
Differences between MT4G Gingerbread and Panache for the purpose of this thread:
- Panache requires a gold card because the ROM you roll back to comes from a different carrier.
- Your preferences in terms of what ROM to put on your phone after S-OFF may be different from T-Mobile customers - ergo, discuss here if this is an issue.
Thanks to jgobeil for posting the guide in post #98:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16858971&postcount=98
Jgobeil said:
Hi,
Now that the rooting guide for the Panache is completed and posted, may I suggest that you update the first post of the Panache thread to refer newcomers to this thread to post #98 where the guide is.
This will make it easy for these people and maybe avoid costly mistakes.
Best regards and thanks for your help.
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If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
Jack_R1 said:
If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
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What is gingerbreak??? Is there a new rooting method called gingerbreak?
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cmstlist said:
I don't own an MT4G or Panache, but I thought I'd start this thread for the inevitable arrival of Mobilicity & Videotron customers who would like to mod an HTC Panache.
Since it has launched with Gingerbread, I am guessing the initial root steps will be a little different. If any MT4G devs have any idea what Panache users should try differently, post it here.
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Dude then why the hell did you start this if you don't own one? Stick to your own forum!
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mark manning said:
Dude then why the hell did you start this if you don't own one? Stick to your own forum!
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Because I'm Canadian and using one of the new AWS carriers here, so I want to know as much as I can about the devices they release
Jack_R1 said:
If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
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There is someone else here on the forum who flashed the entire firmware of the Panache onto his MT4G and was unable to re-root with Gingerbreak even for temp root. Fortunately the user in question had Radio S-OFF so was eventually able to fix it. But this hints that Gingerbreak won't work.
cmstlist said:
There is someone else here on the forum who flashed the entire firmware of the Panache onto his MT4G and was unable to re-root with Gingerbreak even for temp root. Fortunately the user in question had Radio S-OFF so was eventually able to fix it. But this hints that Gingerbreak won't work.
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That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
chem.manish said:
That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
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Thanks for clarifying. Of course you had S-OFF and the Mobi/Vtron Panache comes S-ON. So this leaves an open question of what is the first step to root the Panache.
chem.manish said:
That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
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I just wanted to ask - you said you tried Gingerbreak and it didn't work. My question is, did you check if it at least provided you with temp root? Or it did nothing at all?
I got rooted. Just installed Rom manager to flash recovery and all is fine.
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atifsh said:
I got rooted. Just installed Rom manager to flash recovery and all is fine.
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Could you explain all the steps you took to achieve this on the Panache?
I just read your thread and it looks like you actually had a MT4G running the Panache ROM. But was your phone already S-OFF? If so, that'd probably explain why Gingerbreak worked. Not sure that'd fly on a factory Installed Panache.
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Details on post I started, but its glacier used panache RUU.
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Yes it was s-off, but another user who did that could'nt root though he also was s-off
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I see. So it's still not clear what will or won't work with a factory S-ON Panache.
It's reported that Gingerbreak does not work with S-ON Panache, but what's unclear is whether it can still be used to achieve temp root. If it can, this suggests a way to force it to an earlier T-Mo RUU which will permit the use of the S-OFF kernel exploit.
as far i know, both are same hardware and you dont need s-off to use factory RUU. thus if i can use panache RUU regardless of s-off i can flash mytouch 4g RUU on panache.
atifsh said:
as far i know, both are same hardware and you dont need s-off to use factory RUU. thus if i can use panache RUU regardless of s-off i can flash mytouch 4g RUU on panache.
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You need at the very least temproot to edit the "misc" partition before flashing an older version bootloader RUU, otherwise it will reject it. Since it is not yet established that temproot works on factory S-ON Panache, there is no established way to downgrade the RUU. So there is still no clear pathway yet.
If you say so though I still think u dont need any sort of root for official RUU.exe
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An official RUU will fail, even with a gold card, if it's an older version than the current bootloader. All MT4G official firmwares are older than the Panache's. The only way around this is a root hack.
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cmstlist said:
An official RUU will fail, even with a gold card, if it's an older version than the current bootloader. All MT4G official firmwares are older than the Panache's. The only way around this is a root hack.
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ok i didnt know that, i thought its more like flashing a bios where it says u have this ver and willflash this
Okay so I see on the Mobilicity and Videotron Panache that it has peak speeds of 21 Mbps whereas the MT4G is 14.4, did they make a hardware change or is this in the firmware?
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I just wanted to ask - you said you tried Gingerbreak and it didn't work. My question is, did you check if it at least provided you with temp root? Or it did nothing at all?
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No, it didnt even temp root. As i said earlier i did not have a true s-off. I even tried flashing cwm through fastboot but bootloader didnt allow that (it should have if i had a true s-off).
is it possible to call at&t and get an unlock code for the inspire 4g?
If you were planning on rooting to install custom roms you will also unlock your phone. No need to call at&t.
xlk said:
is it possible to call at&t and get an unlock code for the inspire 4g?
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No you have to buy one, or root. The phone is still under warranty so att will not give you the unlock code.
Also please post on the proper section q&a
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dtorrez1883 said:
If you were planning on rooting to install custom roms you will also unlock your phone. No need to call at&t.
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thanks for the info dtorrez.. i'm thinking about buying the inspire 4g on ebay. then i plan on installing virtuous unity. so, i guess by installing virtuous unity the phone gets rooted... so, no need to get an unlock code from at&t. thanks!
If only it were that easy... Unfortunately you have to root before installing a rom but it's not really that difficult if you read and do your research. Read this and you'll be ready when you get your Inspire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
Not exactly. First you root your phone by using one of the available hack kits, (such as attn1's hack kit) and then you will be able to install whichever custom rom you wish. (As dtorrez said. I was busy doing other things and did not submit reply fast enough so he beat me to it.) As long as you understand the procedure correctly.
How about search and read the forums before asking the same question that 100k others have asked. Not to be a **** but damn do ur research and stickies
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What will the impact of this update be?
wdkingery said:
What will the impact of this update be?
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The impact will be that it will update this phone to gingerbread. Neat, huh?
Now if you're talking rootability, how would we know until it's released? I won't take a chance. I think the update for the dhd is unrootable. When put on a stock phone, you're hosed.
For custom roms? I'm sure it'll be a good thing.
agreed. i don't think the inspire will ever get an unlocked rom direct from htc and especially not from at&t. if your interested (like i am) in a stock rom based on gingerbread wait for a developer to release a rooted version of the at&t update coming in august.
i just wish htc would add sense 3.0 to the coming rom, but i don't imagine that will ever happen either. thank goodness for the developers on here to make our phones what they could be from htc.
There's a new exploit, Fre3vo, that should work on the forthcoming Inspire GB update unless HTC patches it at the last minute which is not likely (it's already in the pipeline).
Gene Poole said:
There's a new exploit, Fre3vo, that should work on the forthcoming Inspire GB update unless HTC patches it at the last minute which is not likely (it's already in the pipeline).
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They are saving that for a later ota
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Move to android 2.3. A couple of fixes. Same laggy sense sadly.
Gene Poole said:
There's a new exploit, Fre3vo, that should work on the forthcoming Inspire GB update unless HTC patches it at the last minute which is not likely (it's already in the pipeline).
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I queried you with this on the other thread, but it looks like it's getting buried. From what I have seen, this just gives a temp root and doesn't break the nand security. I was wondering if perhaps you had seen some info I hadn't come across that indicated otherwise.
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fernandezhjr said:
I queried you with this on the other thread, but it looks like it's getting buried. From what I have seen, this just gives a temp root and doesn't break the nand security. I was wondering if perhaps you had seen some info I hadn't come across that indicated otherwise.
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You need temproot to change the version information. From there (with a goldcard), you can downgrade the ROM to the version that can be used with gfree to get S-OFF. Once you've got S-OFF you're home free!
Basically it's the same method as before, but using fre3vo instead of psneuter or rage (psneuter and rage exploits have been patched in latest HTC RUUs).
Gene Poole said:
You need temproot to change the version information. From there (with a goldcard), you can downgrade the ROM to the version that can be used with gfree to get S-OFF. Once you've got S-OFF you're home free!
Basically it's the same method as before, but using fre3vo instead of psneuter or rage (psneuter and rage exploits have been patched in latest HTC RUUs).
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So basically this is specific to the Inspire. We still benefit from having the ability to downgrade and exploit. I was wondering why it wouldn't perma root the EVO 3D. Thanks.
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fernandezhjr said:
So basically this is specific to the Inspire. We still benefit from having the ability to downgrade and exploit. I was wondering why it wouldn't perma root the EVO 3D. Thanks.
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Well, most any rooting procedure needs to get temproot at some point in the process. Fre3vo works on a lot of HTC GB RUUs, but I'm not sure if it works on other brands. The workings are still a closely guarded secret for now.
Has anyone been able to root their Inspire 4G Gingerbread 2.3.3....I for the love of god cannot figure out a way to do so, i've tried rooting it 3 times with bubba's and kit v9 but yet have been successful to do so...can anyone help me
cmg178 said:
Has anyone been able to root their Inspire 4G Gingerbread 2.3.3....I for the love of god cannot figure out a way to do so, i've tried rooting it 3 times with bubba's and kit v9 but yet have been successful to do so...can anyone help me
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Just use attn1's hack kit. The one click wouldn't work for mw either.
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cmg178 said:
Has anyone been able to root their Inspire 4G Gingerbread 2.3.3....I for the love of god cannot figure out a way to do so, i've tried rooting it 3 times with bubba's and kit v9 but yet have been successful to do so...can anyone help me
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The current version of the hack kit is 12.3 and should work for rooting your GB Inspire.
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D/l the ace hack kit from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
follow the instructions exactly. Then using the same instructions flash one of the many rooted GB roms. I used this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1191949
there are many in the dev section, I just prefer mostly stock but rooted.
The hack kit worked really well for me so I would suggest that as well. Read the effin manual first though. And you just have to follow up until the "Options" section, unless you want to flash a new radio.
cmg178 said:
Has anyone been able to root their Inspire 4G Gingerbread 2.3.3....I for the love of god cannot figure out a way to do so, i've tried rooting it 3 times with bubba's and kit v9 but yet have been successful to do so...can anyone help me
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Bubby's hasn't been updated to work with the 2.3.3 OTA Gingerbread. Use ATTN1's hack kit; it has been updated.
Try hack kit v12.3... There is a link in the devs by attn1
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Ace Hack Kit link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1208507
I bought HTC Inspire 4G phone, but the software recognized it as Desire HD even on the market so i'm not sure if i want to add launcher where to look , Inspire 4g or Desire HD ?
please any explanation !
the inspire is basically the north american version of the desire hd... most of the custom roms available for one will work for the other.
have you flashed a custom rom, or are you on stock still?
either way its nothing to worry about, your phone will work just fine.
If you are using the stock rom and about phone information says it is desire, then you have a desire. Many custom roms are made to be used for both phones bit does not detect the inspire unless you flash inspiremod....and not all roms from one phone will work on the other. Make sure that if you flash a custom Rom it is compatible with your phone. Otherwise you might get stuck.
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I'm also getting the same thing. And I wanna root. Which guide should I follow exactly? The DHD rooting guide or the Inspire?
Reda88 said:
I'm also getting the same thing. And I wanna root. Which guide should I follow exactly? The DHD rooting guide or the Inspire?
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If you have an inspire, then definitely the inspire guide. Read a lot and be prepared, if you get stuck Google it or pm someone. Have fun :thumbup:
Reda88 said:
I'm also getting the same thing. And I wanna root. Which guide should I follow exactly? The DHD rooting guide or the Inspire?
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Use the Hack Kit....don't use any other method....It works for both DHD and Inspire and if you follow all instructions you will be s-off and rooted in less than 5 minutes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352