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Data Connection is still used when connected to WiFi!

I've just been charged £400 by Orange for exceeding my Data limit of 1GB , watching You tube video's but whilst connected to WiFi.
I did a few tests using www.showip.net and found that when you connect to WiFi your connection is still rooted through your data connection, so your download limit is being sucked away when you are thinking your safe as your connected to your WiFi connection.
You actually have to manually disconnect your data connection, then connect to WiFi, your data connection doesn't automatically disable itself when you connect to WiFi.
This seems like a major bug to me and I can't see this documented by HTC or Windows Mobile
Is this a know "issue" and is there a fix?
Regards

You do not need to pay them anything,just go to your local citizens advise bureau or trading standards..
In order to prevent using 'data' connection you have to disable it with a third party app ,such as data disconnect,even then you have to manually disable it in the connections centre,if you disable it in the connections centre and do not use an app such as 'data disconnect' it will still connect..
Therefore it is a fault with the device..

Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just discovered this issue. Which app will automatically disable 3G when I'm connected to WiFi? I always thought if you were connected to wifi your data would not get used? Guess I was wrong :S

PhnXFire said:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just discovered this issue. Which app will automatically disable 3G when I'm connected to WiFi? I always thought if you were connected to wifi your data would not get used? Guess I was wrong :S
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Install Android Data n wifi works like a charm...
In windows, i've seen Wifi-on-demand once installed,starts the data automatically when wifi is lost,but data stays on even when wifi is reconnected.I guess there is no solution for this yet....

PhnXFire said:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just discovered this issue. Which app will automatically disable 3G when I'm connected to WiFi? I always thought if you were connected to wifi your data would not get used? Guess I was wrong :S
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CHTS switches Gprs off, if Wifi is connected. Also you can disable gprs Data totally.
At best you make a home profile, which disable gprs totally and only if you really want to use gprs, you switch to another profile, which allows it.

[Q] Is there a way to create a shortcut to my cellphone on the Xoom?

OK I know how to create a general shortcut, but what I am looking for is a way to create a shortcut to the BT connection to my cell. I have a WiFi only Xoom and when I am away from a hotspot I tether over BT to my cell. It would be great if I could make a shortcut so I would not have to go into settings>Bluetooth settings> etc. I use App Protector to password protect my settings page so what would normally take 6 clicks takes 10. A one click option sure would be nice.

Tasker. 'When Wifi not connected, connect bluetooth to device'

Thanks for the reply, but I do not want it to automatically tether. That would drastically reduce my cell phone battery life.

Why not wifi tether?
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HuckFinn said:
Thanks for the reply, but I do not want it to automatically tether. That would drastically reduce my cell phone battery life.
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I haven't messed with my tasker lately, but I think you can add a widget to activate certain profiles.

DroidHam said:
Why not wifi tether?
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WiFi tethering would mean I have to do something with the phone to make it work. The beauty of the BT tether is that I never have to touch my phone. As long as bluetooth is on, I can simply connect from the Xoom and I am good.
Also for some reason I have had much better luck with the BT tethering. It seems the WiFi hotspot feature on my phone will shut off if there is too long of an idle time. I tried playing with the settings but still had issues where I had to restart it. BT tethering seems to be very stable.

Kcarpenter said:
I haven't messed with my tasker lately, but I think you can add a widget to activate certain profiles.
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Thanks I will have to look into tasker. I have not used it and have heard it is pretty powerful, I will just have to consider if it is worth the $$.

HuckFinn said:
Thanks I will have to look into tasker. I have not used it and have heard it is pretty powerful, I will just have to consider if it is worth the $$.
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I have found it to be worth the money just in battery savings on my Epic.
Have it scheduled to turn off Mobile Data, and turn on wifi from 8-11:30, Data back on at 11:30-12:30 and Wifi on 12:30-5.

For my Milestone2 I could see where this would help with battery life a bit, but since this is a WiFi only Xoom I am having a hard time figuring out what else I could automate.
Since you are a user of Tasker, could I make a profile that would do the following?
-If there is no WiFi connection AND the screen is on connect via BT to cellphoneXXX.
-Once the screen goes off disconnect BT connection.
If I could set that up then I would be ok with it automatically connecting to my cell phone. I just do not want it sucking up battery power on my cell for background syncing of email, etc. Most of the day my Xoom has a WiFi connection so it is not that big of a deal.

HuckFinn said:
For my Milestone2 I could see where this would help with battery life a bit, but since this is a WiFi only Xoom I am having a hard time figuring out what else I could automate.
Since you are a user of Tasker, could I make a profile that would do the following?
-If there is no WiFi connection AND the screen is on connect via BT to cellphoneXXX.
-Once the screen goes off disconnect BT connection.
If I could set that up then I would be ok with it automatically connecting to my cell phone. I just do not want it sucking up battery power on my cell for background syncing of email, etc. Most of the day my Xoom has a WiFi connection so it is not that big of a deal.
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I will look when I get home, but I am 90% certain you can.

[Q] Q - wifi takes precedence over mobile network?

Hi, I'm new to android, but tech aware. Not sure if this is android or Sensation (I'm on XE with thanks to Mike1986).
I use WiFi a lot, but also wander. I tend to forget to turn off the WiFi when I leave work/home/pub - not top of my list!
Whilst I'm wandering I often try to look something up, when WiFi's scanning, and wait for ages.
Shouldn't the 'system' failover to phone data access if WiFi is not connected - or at least ask me for an action?
As I say, I'm new to this - apologies.
Thanks

yes, it should fail over to data if it is not connected to WIFI.

Correct. If you have wifi enabled, leave the area like to work that has no wifi, then yes mobile network takes over.
But I go one above and use Llama location profiles. Where depending where are based on the conditions you set, you can trigger actions using this app. The app is free in the market and is an invaluable tool for me when I am leaving work, heading to the car with my bt and gets connected because I set my condition to look for a bt device if I am no longer connected to my wifi at work.
Gotta love Android

Hmmm. That's not the behaviour I'm seeing. Just thought it was an irritation. Should failover be auto or is there settings (or apps) to control it? I like the concept of profiles ... But you've got to be more organised than I!

nightjar56 said:
Hmmm. That's not the behaviour I'm seeing. Just thought it was an irritation. Should failover be auto or is there settings (or apps) to control it? I like the concept of profiles ... But you've got to be more organised than I!
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It's auto. Like my n1, whenever I am in range of a known wifi connection, the wifi will auto connect if wifi was left on from the prior location or out of range and back again, if that makes sense lol...
So if you go out and are out of wifi range, and you manually turn off wifi, then no wifi won't auto connect of course.

Yes, that all works fine - when I'm wandering in and out of wifi zones. My gripe/question is :
When I am out of wifi range, and wifi is on (scanning), should the phone fall back to the phone data connection? The behaviour I see is that connecting just hangs until I turn wifi off.
Thanks

[Q] Sharing my wifi connection with my phone

Ok, I've been looking around for a couple hours now but people aren't understanding my question/dilemma
I am currently using a goWIFI connection on my tablet, I'm only allowed to login with one device at a time. So I am trying to share my xoom's wifi, not data connection with my phone so they can both be using the same wifi connection
I do not want to share a data connection with my phone, I want to share the wifi connection with my phone. How can I do this? FoxFI only seems to share data connections.

Delgoth said:
Ok, I've been looking around for a couple hours now but people aren't understanding my question/dilemma
I am currently using a goWIFI connection on my tablet, I'm only allowed to login with one device at a time. So I am trying to share my xoom's wifi, not data connection with my phone so they can both be using the same wifi connection
I do not want to share a data connection with my phone, I want to share the wifi connection with my phone. How can I do this? FoxFI only seems to share data connections.
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And you have tried putting your tablet in airplane mode to shutoff you mobile data connection?
Are ypu on a custom ROM? I have never tried it but some seem to offer turning your tablet into a portable wifi connection, might be the backdoor to tether your phone that you need

I dont have a data plan right nnonow for my tablet, its only running on wifi as it is. I have already disabled mobile data in settings. I am running EOS 3 build 134.
I am just looking to share the current wifi connection instead of a data connection.

[Q] Wifi and Mobile data

I have Nexus 5 for over a week and waiting for case and screen protector. I left the plastic piece stay on the phone until the day before yesterday. I love the feeling of touch screen without any film or protector on it. I am learning this device.
I have router in my office powered but not working anymore, therefore there is wifi always on but not working anymore. Everyday in the morning, when I am in my office, the phone will detect that wifi auto, of course there is no signal. My mobile data is on all hte time. I have to turnoff wifi from the phone, otherwise I can not, for example, surf internet and check email. In the other words, no internet connection even mobile data is on.
So my question is: why the phone can not pick up mobile data automatically even there is a wifi? I was scared when i first had this problem because I thought my phone is not working. Is there any setting I can try to let the phone pickup signal from either wifi or mobile data automatically?

I'm interested also. Nexus 5 has a difficult time negotiating a signal when the signal is weak. At home, I get a higher powered signal on 2G so I keep it there. Today I noticed "no signal" and emergency calls message most of the day. (hubby's iPhone 4s is on the same service and he's getting the signal). I turned off Wi-Fi (which works perfectly, btw ) and phone signal connected. Treated it several times. Sounds like a hardware defect.

wolfca said:
I have router in my office powered but not working anymore, therefore there is wifi always on but not working anymore. Everyday in the morning, when I am in my office, the phone will detect that wifi auto, of course there is no signal. My mobile data is on all hte time. I have to turnoff wifi from the phone, otherwise I can not, for example, surf internet and check email. In the other words, no internet connection even mobile data is on.
So my question is: why the phone can not pick up mobile data automatically even there is a wifi? I was scared when i first had this problem because I thought my phone is not working. Is there any setting I can try to let the phone pickup signal from either wifi or mobile data automatically?
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Your wording makes the question a little confusing, but I think you are saying your office router is turned on and available for WiFi connections, but has no internet connection itself to pass through to your phone.
Your phone connects to that WiFi for data, but can't reach the Net through the router. Meanwhile, you could get data through the phone data plan, but that does not work unless you turn off WiFi.
This normal. The phone is designed to use WiFi for data if a connection is available that you have authorized the phone to make. It won't use the phone data plan if connected to the WiFi, as you see. It cannot tell that the WiFi router is not connected to the Net.
I suggest you go into WiFi settings, click on the "ghostly" WiFi entry and tell the phone to forget that connection. From then on, the phone won't connect to that router and will use phone data plan.
What you would prefer would be for the phone to use its data plan as a fallback option, in case it gets hooked up to a WiFi network with no internet access, like at your work. Would be nice as an option, but not the way things work currently.
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wolfca said:
So my question is: why the phone can not pick up mobile data automatically even there is a wifi?
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To prevent overage for users that may have limited data plan, the device will always try to use WiFi when enabled. If it can't connect to a WiFi network, it will look for the mobile data if enabled.
wolfca said:
Is there any setting I can try to let the phone pickup signal from either wifi or mobile data automatically?
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In your case, since WiFi is "available", there is no setting on the stock ROM that will tell the device to connect to mobile data instead. Think about it this way - your phone is connected to the LAN using the WiFi network. It can reach the gateway, and has a valid IP. It doesn't care about whether it has WAN connectivity or not. So, it assumes that you are connected, and have connectivity.
You could look for apps on the play store that will actually check for WAN connectivity and if not available, disable WiFi (so that mobile data is used instead)
But, the part that I don't understand is this: If you don't have WiFi available, why do you even enable it? Turn WiFi off (disable wifi scanning in advanced settings of WiFi as well), and let mobile data take over instead. Or do you need WiFi elsewhere (say, at home)? If so, there are apps like Tasker that will let you set up profiles to enable WiFi when you are at home, and disable it when you are at office or other locations.

Thanks all for your very helpful reply. Sorry for my poor written English.
My office router does not function properly and I am to lazy to power it off, so my phone still can detect it but of course there no internet access from the router.
I now know I just need turn off wifi from phone and the phone will pickup mobile data auto.