I had an idea how to save power.
How it works is that it would run in the background of the phone.
By default WiFi is turned off, however when an app requires some form of data connection, the WiFi app recognises this and turns on the WiFi.
If a WiFi network is near and you already have the password stored in the phone it connects to the network.
If a WiFi network is near and you dont have the password stored it prompts you with a popup. If you cancel the popup, WiFi gets turned off.
This way power can be saved so WiFi doesn't have to always be on and only gets turned on when needed.
Possible? What you think?
Juicedefender does this. It will cut off your WIFI if it's not around known networks. I think you have to buy ultimatejuice (it's worth it).
Hi guys,
I am new to amdroid platform. I've been using symbian before this. I want to know as to how do I auto use wifi when. Available without manually turning it on. Below is a use case scenario.
I have configured wifi as well as gprs. I have turned off background sync so as to conserve battery and the wifi is off. Now when my active sync want to connect to server to synchronize emails, it should auto check if I have a nearby wifi already configured. If yes, then turn on the wifi, sync the data and close the connection thereby disconnecting from wlan. If a known wlan network is not available, use the data plan of my service provider to get the job done.
Now I know for sure that when I've wifi turned off, the phone is not always connected to 3G. It uses it only if requested by an application. But when I turn ON wifi, it always remains connected to the known network. I want to avoid this for saving battery.
Please let me know if there is an app for that. I am using HTC DESIRE Z running Froyo (non rooted). I dont mind rooting the phone for this thing but only if a standard way is not available.
Thanks in advance,
Karan
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I think Juice Defender does exactly what you're looking for.
Or Tasker if you really want to customize and make it location-based.
Good luck, and welcome to Android! I also came from Symbian.
Technically the phone can't know if there is wifi available unless wifi is on..
However, a tool like Tasker can use various contexts in order to determine if Wifi is to be turned on. For example you could use cell tower ID's to determine if you're at a certain (fairly wide area) location, like "at work". Or you could use GPS to get more fine tuned information, however it doesn't necessarily work indoors.
Or Tasker could also turn on Wifi if ActiveSync is running, assuming it's a distinct program it can detect.
I see in the time I opened the thread and responded someone else suggested Tasker as well. It's several bucks but it's well worth it, it does a LOT.
You should try an app called "Y5".
JuiceDefender does this for me. It must use gps positioning to determine if you are in an area that you have as a familiar wireless network. When I am home my wifi turns on and connects automatically. When I leave it shuts it off. JuiceDefender is great for many reasons beyond this.
foppa78 said:
JuiceDefender does this for me. It must use gps positioning to determine if you are in an area that you have as a familiar wireless network.
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GPS uses tons more battery power than just leaving WiFi on would. It might be using cell tower triangulation for a rough area, but I doubt it. The most efficient way to detect if familiar wireless is near, is to turn the WiFi on for a minute or so and do a scan.
kmmerwana said:
Now I know for sure that when I've wifi turned off, the phone is not always connected to 3G. It uses it only if requested by an application. But when I turn ON wifi, it always remains connected to the known network. I want to avoid this for saving battery.
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WiFi doesn't use power to maintain the connection until it's needed, or something wakes it and it realizes its no longer connected. 3G uses power to track cell tower connectivity and stay connected, but it is very little. WiFi only uses more power when you're in an unfamiliar location, since it actively scans for new wireless networks.
if i have bouth data and wifi turned on and i am connected to a wifi spot...do i need to turn off the data conection first before it will stop sucking my topup?
shouldnt the device make sure it uses wifi if wireless network is available?
No, you don't need to.
When you connect to a wi-fi connection, the 3G data will automatically switch off (logo on status bar will go away) and it will return when you switch wi-fi off.
funstuffalex said:
if i have bouth data and wifi turned on and i am connected to a wifi spot...do i need to turn off the data conection first before it will stop sucking my topup?
shouldnt the device make sure it uses wifi if wireless network is available?
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what?
The phone will prioritize the WiFi connection over the 3G connection unless the WiFi is turned off, it's signal drops out(resulting in a disconnects), or you have the default still set for WiFi to turn off when the screen is off.
Am I right in thinking that although the 3g connection will kick in when the wifi signal is lost the phone will still continue looking for a wifi signal and therefore impact on the battery?
xspyda said:
Am I right in thinking that although the 3g connection will kick in when the wifi signal is lost the phone will still continue looking for a wifi signal and therefore impact on the battery?
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Once the WiFi signal it's connected to is lost, it will switch the data 3G connection back on. Once you're out of range of remembered WiFi networks, it does scan for new/known WiFi signals to automatically connect to(only in the case of known signals, it will not try to connect to unknown networks).
As far as impact on battery, I don't think it's much. Only one time has WiFi ever creeped up on my battery use meter and that was on a particularly light day. I still finished my work day at little over 70% battery. There's an app on the market called WiFi Toggle which can help you automatically manage the phones WiFi chip. For instance, one setting will let it turn the WiFi on for a second, scan for known networks and connect if it finds them. If it doesn't, it turns it back off.
That's as I thought, thanks for the confirmation. I'd really like something to make the android phones act like the nokias in this respect - only turn on a data connection when needed (ie when the browser is fired up) and also prioritise the connections such that if a pre programmed known wifi network is available it will connect to that but if not switch to 3g data. There is no scanning for wifi networks all the time.
Nice to know it doesn't seem to impact on the battery though and yes before anyone mentions it I am aware android devices are designed to be always connected
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That's as I thought, thanks for the confirmation. I'd really like something to make the android phones act like the nokias in this respect - only turn on a data connection when needed (ie when the browser is fired up) and also prioritise the connections such that if a pre programmed known wifi network is available it will connect to that but if not switch to 3g data. There is no scanning for wifi networks all the time.
Nice to know it doesn't seem to impact on the battery though and yes before anyone mentions it I am aware android devices are designed to be always connected
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I've been saying this for a while too. I came from Nokia symbian phones where they initiated the data session only when needed, like opening the browser etc. Android does not do this, instead it keeps a data session on all the time. Anytime you see that 3g symbol on an android phone means its data session is open. This is why android gets such poor battery life across all models and manufacturers.
Take one day as a test and simulate your symbian use by turning off mobile data, and your battery life will sky rocket on your nexus. So really It's just a trade off to make knowing you're always connected vs on others like symbian you need to manually do something to open the connection.
Oh and WiFi gets so much better battery life over 3g on android.
Having an issue with the Tab 2 where you go to pick it up and start browsing after it has been sitting around a while (not sure if the time matters, but it seems like after sitting for most of the day) and the wifi is still connected, but nothing works than needs data. It acts like it would if you had not internet connection. Toggling the wifi off and on will fix the issue and notificaitons and emails start pouring in.
Anyone else have this problem? I found a similar issue on the 7.7 forums but nobody reported a solution and I am not even sure if it would have worked on the Tab 2 anyways. I am thinking about making a script that toggles the wifi automatically if it detects it can't connect to the internet. But that is a little ridiculous needing to do that. It shouldn't be losing connection in the first place.
Hi Pirate
it's a bit depending on the ROM you have installed - but since Android 4 you have a quite reliable setting. The default behavior of Android devices is to deactivate the wifi connection when it goes to sleep.
Some ROMs don't recognize the disconnection and the switch/button still shows "Wifi on" although disconnected.
First step: go to settings / wifi settings, hit the menu button (top right three dots) and check the advanced settings.
Somewhat like "Keep WLAN active in standby" - set this to always.
That should solve it already under android 4.x
If this doesn't help, look into Play Store - search for "wifi keep alive". But for the SGT 2 you shouldn't need it
Greetz - Chris
It was already set to "Always" so I don't think that will help. I will look at that app to see what it does.
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wifi turns off when not in use to save battery. I think it might be a default even if you have it set to always on.
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wifi turns off when not in use to save battery. I think it might be a default even if you have it set to always on.
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The problem is that it never comes back on. Well it shows the wifi icon and the signal and everything but it just doesn't have any data connection. Any apps that use data act like wifi is off. The only way to get it to start working again is to toggle wifi or reboot. I also forgot to mention it is the stock ROM, only rooted. It got the OTA a few days ago too and it has happened since then.
You're not alone
Skurvy_Pirate said:
Having an issue with the Tab 2 where you go to pick it up and start browsing after it has been sitting around a while (not sure if the time matters, but it seems like after sitting for most of the day) and the wifi is still connected, but nothing works than needs data. It acts like it would if you had not internet connection. Toggling the wifi off and on will fix the issue and notificaitons and emails start pouring in.
Anyone else have this problem? I found a similar issue on the 7.7 forums but nobody reported a solution and I am not even sure if it would have worked on the Tab 2 anyways. I am thinking about making a script that toggles the wifi automatically if it detects it can't connect to the internet. But that is a little ridiculous needing to do that. It shouldn't be losing connection in the first place.
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It's the same effing stuff people suggest to every wifi glitch out there.
To people who think it's due to the wifi sleep policy: although I've set it to always, why would wifi not resume, after screen is turned on? It's not the wifi that gets disconnected, it's the internet (or the download speed) that stops working.
To people who suggest it's a power saving feature under low battery conditions: Sorry, I've tested it while charging and with full battery.
To people with the above two arguments: Connection to some routers works perfect with the phone. Like when I turn on the hotspot on another phone, the wifi works great. Also, wifi on the other phone from the same source (laptop used as internet access point) works well.
To people who suggest resetting the router or wifi on phone: The internet does start working again, but only for a few minutes. Even if the screen is turned on, the internet may stop working mid-download.
The actual situation is that the phone disconnects from the internet, but keeps showing a connection to wifi. Like I used connectify hotspot to create an access point, and after a few minutes, the phone moved from "connected clients" list to the "previously connected clients", even as the phone showed connected to wifi with even the download arrows blinking, but no internet (or download speed). This only happens with certain sources (of wifi). And other phones may work well with the same source.
I have tried (several times and in different orders and permutations) the following to no effect:
1. Resetting the router.
2. Resetting the wifi on laptop.
3. Resetting the wifi on phone.
4. Restarting the phone and laptop.
5. Static IPs, gateways and DNSs. (Even though the problem was not with connecting to wifi and even internet works momentarily after resetting wifi).
6. Turning off items controlling wireless network in wireless connection properties.
7. Turning off firewall.
Waiting for a savior.
I know this isn't super helpful but I had the same bug you describe on the previous version of carbon. When I updated to the latest it seems to have stopped.
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I had similar issue with my aTab Phone 4 and TP-Link TL-WR941ND (OpenWRT)
After disabling WMM capability in the router the problem disappeared!
Change router lease time to "2weeks"
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Same issue.
karankahlon said:
It's the same effing stuff people suggest to every wifi glitch out there.
To people who think it's due to the wifi sleep policy: although I've set it to always, why would wifi not resume, after screen is turned on? It's not the wifi that gets disconnected, it's the internet (or the download speed) that stops working.
To people who suggest it's a power saving feature under low battery conditions: Sorry, I've tested it while charging and with full battery.
To people with the above two arguments: Connection to some routers works perfect with the phone. Like when I turn on the hotspot on another phone, the wifi works great. Also, wifi on the other phone from the same source (laptop used as internet access point) works well.
To people who suggest resetting the router or wifi on phone: The internet does start working again, but only for a few minutes. Even if the screen is turned on, the internet may stop working mid-download.
The actual situation is that the phone disconnects from the internet, but keeps showing a connection to wifi. Like I used connectify hotspot to create an access point, and after a few minutes, the phone moved from "connected clients" list to the "previously connected clients", even as the phone showed connected to wifi with even the download arrows blinking, but no internet (or download speed). This only happens with certain sources (of wifi). And other phones may work well with the same source.
I have tried (several times and in different orders and permutations) the following to no effect:
1. Resetting the router.
2. Resetting the wifi on laptop.
3. Resetting the wifi on phone.
4. Restarting the phone and laptop.
5. Static IPs, gateways and DNSs. (Even though the problem was not with connecting to wifi and even internet works momentarily after resetting wifi).
6. Turning off items controlling wireless network in wireless connection properties.
7. Turning off firewall.
Waiting for a savior.
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Same issue. also using connectify and also tried all things you have described. If you find any solution please let me know.
I had the same problem on my Huawei Honor. You need to set static IP in wifi settings (when connecting to AP, press "show advanced settings").
Mine settings were:
IP adress: 192.168.1.75 (make sure other devices are not connected with this IP)
Gateway: 192.168.1.254 (it could be different. Use the same as you're using to connect to your router)
Network prefix length: 24
DNS 1: 8.8.8.8
DNS 2: 4.4.4.4
No option for static IP in connectify
jopsinas said:
I had the same problem on my Huawei Honor. You need to set static IP in wifi settings (when connecting to AP, press "show advanced settings").
Mine settings were:
IP adress: 192.168.1.75 (make sure other devices are not connected with this IP)
Gateway: 192.168.1.254 (it could be different. Use the same as you're using to connect to your router)
Network prefix length: 24
DNS 1: 8.8.8.8
DNS 2: 4.4.4.4
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There is no option in connectify for static IP and in USB wifi dongle also there is no option to set static IP.
Help!
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Same issue
karankahlon said:
It's the same effing stuff people suggest to every wifi glitch out there.
To people who think it's due to the wifi sleep policy: although I've set it to always, why would wifi not resume, after screen is turned on? It's not the wifi that gets disconnected, it's the internet (or the download speed) that stops working.
To people who suggest it's a power saving feature under low battery conditions: Sorry, I've tested it while charging and with full battery.
To people with the above two arguments: Connection to some routers works perfect with the phone. Like when I turn on the hotspot on another phone, the wifi works great. Also, wifi on the other phone from the same source (laptop used as internet access point) works well.
To people who suggest resetting the router or wifi on phone: The internet does start working again, but only for a few minutes. Even if the screen is turned on, the internet may stop working mid-download.
The actual situation is that the phone disconnects from the internet, but keeps showing a connection to wifi. Like I used connectify hotspot to create an access point, and after a few minutes, the phone moved from "connected clients" list to the "previously connected clients", even as the phone showed connected to wifi with even the download arrows blinking, but no internet (or download speed). This only happens with certain sources (of wifi). And other phones may work well with the same source.
I have tried (several times and in different orders and permutations) the following to no effect:
1. Resetting the router.
2. Resetting the wifi on laptop.
3. Resetting the wifi on phone.
4. Restarting the phone and laptop.
5. Static IPs, gateways and DNSs. (Even though the problem was not with connecting to wifi and even internet works momentarily after resetting wifi).
6. Turning off items controlling wireless network in wireless connection properties.
7. Turning off firewall.
Waiting for a savior.
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1. I have had the exact same issue for (atleast) the past 2 years. Have survived by repeatedly turning wifi on and off.
2. I too use connectify. This issue doesnt seem to happen on every wifi connection (just like your case). Even more specifically, it seems to happen ONLY when I connect my phone to the hotspot created via my laptop (connectify).
3. Even when the internet is actually working, some apps do not seem to recognise that(take some time to realize it is working), while others are able to connect instantly. Specifially, whatsapp is unable to send/receive messages for about 1-2 mins, after which I receive a whole bunch of messages at once.
This does not seem to be an issue due to connectify as well. I have tried creating a hotspot from my laptop without using connectify as well, but unfortunately, nothing changed. Further, this does not happen when my phone connects to a hotspot created via connectify by some other pc. The wifi and internet work perfectly fine when connected to a hotspot created via my friends computer.
Further, this problem happens only when a mobile connects to the hotspot. Doesn't occur when another laptop/PC connects (not sure about tablets).
I have looked into every nook and cranny on the internet, explored every forum for any working solution, but have been unsuccessful. In fact, this is the first place where I saw the exact same problem as mine, and was wondering if you have found any solution to it .
karankahlon said:
It's the same effing stuff people suggest to every wifi glitch out there.
To people who think it's due to the wifi sleep policy: although I've set it to always, why would wifi not resume, after screen is turned on? It's not the wifi that gets disconnected, it's the internet (or the download speed) that stops working.
To people who suggest it's a power saving feature under low battery conditions: Sorry, I've tested it while charging and with full battery.
To people with the above two arguments: Connection to some routers works perfect with the phone. Like when I turn on the hotspot on another phone, the wifi works great. Also, wifi on the other phone from the same source (laptop used as internet access point) works well.
To people who suggest resetting the router or wifi on phone: The internet does start working again, but only for a few minutes. Even if the screen is turned on, the internet may stop working mid-download.
The actual situation is that the phone disconnects from the internet, but keeps showing a connection to wifi. Like I used connectify hotspot to create an access point, and after a few minutes, the phone moved from "connected clients" list to the "previously connected clients", even as the phone showed connected to wifi with even the download arrows blinking, but no internet (or download speed). This only happens with certain sources (of wifi). And other phones may work well with the same source.
I have tried (several times and in different orders and permutations) the following to no effect:
1. Resetting the router.
2. Resetting the wifi on laptop.
3. Resetting the wifi on phone.
4. Restarting the phone and laptop.
5. Static IPs, gateways and DNSs. (Even though the problem was not with connecting to wifi and even internet works momentarily after resetting wifi).
6. Turning off items controlling wireless network in wireless connection properties.
7. Turning off firewall.
Waiting for a savior.
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I'm having the exact same prob on my ZTE Grand x V 970
It started when i had kitkat and i couldnt even "fix it" restarting the wifi, i had to reset the phone in order to have my wifi work for like 2-5 mins and then stops recieving data, tried to reconnect and stays on turning on wifi.. Now i changed to the stock Rom and the problem is still there but at least now i can "fix it" restarting the wifi connection until certain point.
Issue sharing internet with Connectify from PC
Go to:
Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network and Sharing Center
On the left column, click on CHANGE ADAPTER SETTINGS.
You should be in: Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network Connections by now.
Then click on: Microsoft Virtual Miniport Adapter and click on Properties, then click on the 'Configure' button in the 'Networking' tab. From this window, go to the 'Power Management' tab and uncheck 'Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power'.
This works for me. Try this out
If this doesn't work further, you can try out mHotspot for the same purpose.
I've had the same issue, with the wifi saying it's connected even though it isn't.
This thread is 4 years old and this issue still hasn't been fixed. What a shame.
Same issue here on OnePlus 3 even after factory reset.
I have this same problem after the security patch Mid March to Jan 1, 2019. The WIFI doesn't show in the top status bar, but toggling wifi off/on fixes it till the next overnight. I did make one change to my wireless about that same time and that was moving the min connect speed from 6Mbps to 12Mbps to help with bandwidth issues being cause by devices using low speeds and having several SSID broadcast. My S7 and Tab A both work fine - so I think it was something in the security patch.
Hi,
Despite selecting NEVER in Wi-Fi settings (to ensure wifi is off when sceen goes off) - it still seems to be connected constantly
Other phones works fine and wifi is off after 5-15 minutes depends of the model
Any thoughts?
Do you have Wi-Fi+ on? It's in the wifi settings, above your networks.
It works similarly to identifying where you are most, and turning wifi on when you are home, in the office, etc. And switching between mobile internet and wifi when it best suits you.
It will automatically turn wifi on even when it is off
nope, i actually have it turned off
Goto settings, battery, settings wheel in upper right. See if wifi is set to always on in sleep. I have found a few settings that repeat themselves.
i have also set to "never" here
masi0 said:
i have also set to "never" here
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Turn off wifi scanning in location settings,click the 3 dots in the upper right.
That's where I saw it. Good job