I have a TMOUS Sensation 4G (uses the 1700/2100 frequency) and was wondering if I could flash a Bell Mobility ROM or any other carrier that uses the 900/2100 frequency ROM onto it. Would there be any possible issues due to this?
I believe you need to root the phone first. There's a how to in the Sensation for noobs..I think you'll brick it if you don't.
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If i were to flash my inspire 4g with CM7 rom and say flash the inspire 4g with a radio and ril from dhd,would that mean i am able to use the inspire 4g with the 3g frequency being used in europe and the rest of asia?
I understand that the 3g frequency used by at&t(850/1900) is different from the rest of the world,say singapore or france(2100) of course by flashing a dhd radio,i lose 4g connectivity but thats fine by me since i like experimenting.
i understand also that most htc phones are quad band and i4g's hardware is not that much different than dhd.
Is what i suggesting possible?or this is a hardware issue rather than a software issue.
The frequencies depends on the hardware
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Hi, if I flashed a radio meant for 900/1700/2100 frequency on a Sensation from Bell Canada (using 850/1900), will it work with T-Mobile/Wind/Mobicility (on AWS)?
can you provide more info? which radio are you trying to flash? what rom and radio are you using? etc
from my understanding, there is no right or wrong radio for each sensation. they are universal. some may work better than others depending on your carrier and region.
From my understanding, there are two versions of the sensation, z710a and z710e.
z710a (850/1900) is for North America (Bell Canada), whereas z710e (900/1700/2100) is for international plus T-Mobile.
What I was wondering was if you flashed a radio meant for z710e on a z710a, will you get the 900/1700/2100 frequencies?
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isgaard said:
From my understanding, there are two versions of the sensation, z710a and z710e.
z710a (850/1900) is for North America (Bell Canada), whereas z710e (900/1700/2100) is for international plus T-Mobile.
What I was wondering was if you flashed a radio meant for z710e on a z710a, will you get the 900/1700/2100 frequencies?
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no, each phone variant has built in frequencies which cannot be changed via flashing a radio. radios dont have anything to do with frequencies. they just help with signal strength. the frequencies (850/1900 etc) tell you whether you get 3/4g service, which depends on your carrier
I just thought that the sensation might be one of those phones where the manufacturer locks out some frequency to suit the carriers supplied. Just wondering if somebody out there tried it out by flashing different radios to see if it's really a hardware limitation.
So what's att at for there 3g vs tmob
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I know the AT&T Samsung galaxy note was hacked to work on the 1700mhz T-mobile network. Can anyone tell me if this is feasible on for the unlocked international One S ?
We in the rest of the world uses WCDMA... you americans use CDMA... BIIIIIIG difference.
Thiesen, I guess you have a complete misconception there.
Sprint and Verizon use CDMA.
T-Mobile & AT&T use good ol' GSM/WCDMA, so if the phone has the right radio frequencies, it will work.
the hardware between the two devices are exactly the same right ??
So the only difference needed will be the correct radio in order for it to work ??
I have the international (UK) mine supports GSM / WCDMA - so if thats what TMOUS Uses, it shouldnt be a problem ?
The internation version doesn't have the 1700 AWS band (for T-Mobile) or the 1900 band (for AT&T).
No idea why HTC would suddenly eliminate the 1900 band, especially as it has always been present on their phones.
As far as I know, the Galaxy Note works on T-Mobile because it has always had the bands needed, they were just disabled. I guess the question is, does the international One S have the bands and they're disabled, or does it not have the bands at all?
The chip inside the phone is capable of all bands. the issue its turning them on.
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The chip inside the phone is capable of all bands. the issue its turning them on.
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If this is the case all you need to do is flash a T-Mobile radio really. However to do that you need S-Off
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joshnichols189 said:
If this is the case all you need to do is flash a T-Mobile radio really. However to do that you need S-Off
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No no no no no no no, just a tmo ruu. if you have a tmo ruu then the radio is on their.
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No no no no no no no, just a tmo ruu. if you have a tmo ruu then the radio is on their.
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I am not sure what a "ruu " is were can I get it, and how would I apply it to the phone ?
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its a rom upgrade utility..
you download in in a .exe format, and your computer flashes the rom onto your phone.. Its a complete image including kernel, radio, rom, the lot.
there arent many ruu's available yet, as the phone has just been released.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543588
I have a HTC Sensation Z710e rooted and S-off with custom "Android Revolution HD" ICS ROM. My wife has a HTC Sensation Z710a with an official ICS ROM. We are both on dinosaur Rogers network that gauges on its clients planning to switch over to WindMobile. The problem we are having is that my wife's Sensation won't work on WindMobile network. It's because WindMobile operates on AWS 1700 band that is supported by Z710e model (HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100) but not by Z710a (HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100).
Going trough all different threads in Sensation forums I am getting lot of conflicting info so my question is; if I root, S-off and install Android Revolution HD ROM that comes with it's own radio and essentially converts regular Sensation in to Sensation XE; will my wife's Sensation Z710a be able to support AWS 1700 band as well?
Is it only software (firmware, baseband, radio) or actual hardware that differentiates Z710e and Z710a models? Both my wife's and mine phone look exactly the same unbranded HTC Sensations...
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I have a HTC Sensation Z710e rooted and S-off with custom "Android Revolution HD" ICS ROM. My wife has a HTC Sensation Z710a with an official ICS ROM. We are both on dinosaur Rogers network that gauges on its clients planning to switch over to WindMobile. The problem we are having is that my wife's Sensation won't work on WindMobile network. It's because WindMobile operates on AWS 1700 band that is supported by Z710e model (HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100) but not by Z710a (HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100).
Going trough all different threads in Sensation forums I am getting lot of conflicting info so my question is; if I root, S-off and install Android Revolution HD ROM that comes with it's own radio and essentially converts regular Sensation in to Sensation XE; will my wife's Sensation Z710a be able to support AWS 1700 band as well?
I am not posting this question in Android Revolution HD ROM forum because this question is applicable to any custom ROM. Is it only software (firmware, baseband, radio) or actual hardware that differentiates Z710e and Z710a models? Both my wife's and mine phone look exactly the same unbranded HTC Sensations...
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Whilst you can run the have the same ROM and Radio versions on both phones you cannot convert Z710a <-> Z710e. They have different hardware for the data frequencies.
So in simple terms if your wife want's full 3G functionality she'll need a new phone. She'll still have Voice and Edge though.
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I have a HTC Sensation Z710e rooted and S-off with custom "Android Revolution HD" ICS ROM. My wife has a HTC Sensation Z710a with an official ICS ROM. We are both on dinosaur Rogers network that gauges on its clients planning to switch over to WindMobile. The problem we are having is that my wife's Sensation won't work on WindMobile network. It's because WindMobile operates on AWS 1700 band that is supported by Z710e model (HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100) but not by Z710a (HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100).
Going trough all different threads in Sensation forums I am getting lot of conflicting info so my question is; if I root, S-off and install Android Revolution HD ROM that comes with it's own radio and essentially converts regular Sensation in to Sensation XE; will my wife's Sensation Z710a be able to support AWS 1700 band as well?
Is it only software (firmware, baseband, radio) or actual hardware that differentiates Z710e and Z710a models? Both my wife's and mine phone look exactly the same unbranded HTC Sensations...
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Hello, I'm from Argentina and I have an almost unused Z710e, if you want we can change if your wife is in the same state, greetings.
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Whilst you can run the have the same ROM and Radio versions on both phones you cannot convert Z710a <-> Z710e. They have different hardware for the data frequencies.
So in simple terms if your wife want's full 3G functionality she'll need a new phone. She'll still have Voice and Edge though.
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We were testing the functionality of both phones in WindMobile store and my wife's phone only connected to their roaming partners. I am not sure if above mentioned company even utilizes regular GSM frequencies... Perhaps the reason why they are so affordable is that they run VOIP all the time as long you are connected to theirs network. So although we spend 99% of the time in their coverage area, she would be paying roaming for everything (voice, text, data).
I am getting some info in different thread that I will try to act upon and see how it works. I am really desperate to cut all my ties with Rogers. I used to have cable TV and internet with them as well (now cancelled) but they keep on screwing customers more and more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32029294&postcount=1359
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Hello, I'm from Argentina and I have an almost unused Z710e, if you want we can change if your wife is in the same state, greetings.
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That perhaps would be the best thing to do in order to get what I am trying to achieve. My wife's phone is only 2 months old, essentially new...
I've decided to purchase last year's model for her because although being fan of HTC products I would never buy a cellphone without mSD slot (that's what I've hated about my HTC Diamond before). I am just a bit worried about possible issues shipping phones back and forth between Canada and Argentina. Is there someone in Ontario, Canada interested to trade Z710e for Z710a?
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We were testing the functionality of both phones in WindMobile store and my wife's phone only connected to their roaming partners. I am not sure if above mentioned company even utilizes regular GSM frequencies... Perhaps the reason why they are so affordable is that they run VOIP all the time as long you are connected to theirs network. So although we spend 99% of the time in their coverage area, she would be paying roaming for everything (voice, text, data).
I am getting some info in different thread that I will try to act upon and see how it works. I am really desperate to cut all my ties with Rogers. I used to have cable TV and internet with them as well (now cancelled) but they keep on screwing customers more and more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32029294&postcount=1359
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GSM (voice) will work fine for both phones on all networks as will EDGE (2G data) on all networks, the issue is the 3G data side of things. So I don't know why GSM doesn't work it certainly should. They both have: Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz. The Z710a/Z710e difference is purely in the 3G side of things.
Re-reading your post, ahhhh VOIP == Data usage. If they purely use VOIP then you're stuffed, I'd be surprised though but I can't comment on that network.
Have a look at: http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation-z710a-3g-850-1900-mhz.html
Then Network Compatibility -- Canada
Unfortunately they seem to have removed the Z710e phone, just invert the 3G ticks/crosses for it.
Hi,
I have a HTC One SV bought in Sweden, so it has 4G LTE Frequencies of 800/1800/2600
But unfortunately T-Mobiles 4G frequencies on the East Coast(at least) is 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz.
GSM and 3G works for me fine though.
Is there any way for me to flash my modem / radio / baseband to these frequencies?
I see Boost Mobile also uses 4G frequencies of 700mhz/1700mhz/2100mhz. So I was thinking if possible to flash my HTC One SV to the Boost Mobile RUU and it will change the frequencies accordingly.
Or am I totally wrong about how the technology works and its not possible to this?
As far as I know, device uses special radio hardware for every radio band. It would mean, that One SV has HW capability for all these frequencies, some of them being disabled on software level, which I doubt.
So nope, you wil not be able to connect to your LTE network.
And there is no way to hack it? Like similar to a CPU frequency clock or flashing a GPU to a different model(not common but seen it before)?
What would happen/change if I were to flash my HTC One Sv with the Boost Mobile RUU thats out here, what would change and will it only accept Boost Mobile Simcard afterwards?
You couldn't Flash a ruu of boost. Because you have an other model. If you test it, you can brick your device. Think that you don't can do anything to change this.
Wait, you can buy an HTC one sv boost mobile
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