We can now overclock our sidekicks ! First off all you need is root for this to work.
NEED ROOT!
Overclock can be harmful to your hardware.
Use at your own risk.
PLEASE!
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I shot an email to the dev of an Overclock app called Tegrak Overclock that supports pretty much now every variant of the Galaxy S (II) . I Asked if they'd support our device because of how similar it is to the Galaxy S line. Just a few hours later they replied, letting me know that we had the correct (Hummingbird) Processor and asked a few more questions about our device. By the next morning they sent me an test app and it works perfectly... Allowing us to Overclock to a Stable 1.2GHz!
How it works:
Download the New Updated app from the Market - Tegrak Overclock
When it opens, select Load overclock module. Then it will request root permission, allow it.
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Then select CPU max frequency to overclock up to 1.3Ghz. In my experience, it seems that the highest stable steps were 1.2Ghz and 1.152Ghz, both stable enough for daily use. Its possible that others devices may be able to handle those frequencies better than mine, but always be careful cause overclocking can be dangerous.
Theres alot more features within the app, if you know what your doing you can change a few more settings to your liking. Theres a paid version of the app that grants even more abilities, one that made me not mind buying it was having overclock persist after reboot.
If your going to try out higher frequencies make sure you dont set those settings on reboot unless you know they are stable for you.
Heres my Ultimate Setup, No Lag or Home screen freezing/loading.
-TouchMIUIwiz ROM 2.0
-Bali Kernel + Ext4 Lagfix
-LauncherPro Plus
-Overclocked @ 1.152GHz - Reaching over 2060 on quadrant
And my battery easily last a whole day, see how your setup works with your overclock.
Have fun overclocking your sidekicks, and many Thanks to the Devs behind Tegrak Overclock !
I tried I this morning and set I to 1.152ghz and did a qurand test and got 1523 on stock KG2.
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Trying this right now , i have to speak to you privately on aim ?
ayoteddy said:
We can now overclock our sidekicks ! First off all you need is root for this to work.
I shot an email to the dev of an Overclock app called Tegrak Overclock that supports pretty much now every variant of the Galaxy S (II) . I Asked if they'd support our device because of how similar it is to the Galaxy S line. Just a few hours later they replied, letting me know that we had the correct (Hummingbird) Processor and asked a few more questions about our device. By the next morning they sent me an test app and it works perfectly... Allowing us to Overclock to a Stable 1.2GHz!
How it works:
Download the New Updated app from the Market - Tegrak Overclock
When it opens, select Load overclock module. Then it will request root permission, allow it.
Then select CPU max frequency to overclock up to 1.3Ghz. In my experience, it seems that the highest stable steps were 1.2Ghz and 1.152Ghz, both stable enough for daily use. Its possible that others devices may be able to handle those frequencies better than mine, but always be careful cause overclocking can be dangerous.
Theres alot more features within the app, if you know what your doing you can change a few more settings to your liking. Theres a paid version of the app that grants even more abilities, one that made me not mind buying it was having overclock persist after reboot.
If your going to try out higher frequencies make sure you dont set those settings on reboot unless you know they are stable for you.
Heres my Ultimate Setup, No Lag or Home screen freezing/loading.
-TouchMIUIwiz ROM 2.0
-Bali Kernel + Ext4 Lagfix
-LauncherPro Plus
-Overclocked @ 1.152GHz - Reaching over 2060 on quadrant
And my battery easily last a whole day, see how your setup works with your overclock.
Have fun overclocking your sidekicks, and many Thanks to the Devs behind Tegrak Overclock !
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Revolution said:
Trying this right now , i have to speak to you privately on aim ?
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it will work just as long as your rooted, doesnt matter what ROM/Kernel
teddy thanks for getting in touch with this guy will definitely donate to this dude i have the same setup as you clocked at 1.2 and benchmark is average 1970 but max 2500.
EDIT: fruit slice will not open on 1.2ghz which is a shame thats a great time passer! ill stick with 1.152 ghz
It force close's when I try to overclock it using tegrak
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It force close's when I try to overclock it using tegrak
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Sorry to hear, not sure why your having probs with the app it working fine on my end. well hopefully we'll have another way to OC soon, but this is fine for noe
A least on my device, I haven't found any amount of overclock that is stable.
When overclocked and under heavy load with OpenGL, the device crashes within 5 minutes.
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yes, thanks teddy for making this happen for us. so far I am running max. 1.152 Ghz, with a little UV as well..... I am interested to hear how people are doing with UV, people who bought the ultimate version.
so far I have 800 and 400 Mhz undervolted by 25 mV, and 200 and 100 Mhz undervolted by 50 mV. gonna run this and see how stabilty, speed and battery life are...
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How do we go about reverting back to a stock setup? Or how do we undo the overclock?
Edit: Nvm. It reverts after reboot.
badboi_zero said:
How do we go about reverting back to a stock setup? Or how do we undo the overclock?
Edit: Nvm. It reverts after reboot.
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yep, also in the optimazation menu is a choice to reset to default settings.
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ayoteddy thanks for posting this but, im new to this and im not sure how to get your setup. I rooted my sidekick using Superoneclick. If you dont mind, could you explain to me how to get your setup?
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ayoteddy thanks for posting this but, im new to this and im not sure how to get your setup. I rooted my sidekick using Superoneclick. If you dont mind, could you explain to me how to get your setup?
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everybody's phone is different, customize yours to your liking. check teddy's noob faq and then check the All Roms, etc Reference in the development section
got a forced reboot when i tried running it at 1.152, might it had been because im running setcpu at the same time? setcpu's max ghz performance was set to 1, i feel like the max tegrak 1.152 made setcpu go crazy and made my phone rage quit. i'll try again with setcpu off
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got a forced reboot when i tried running it at 1.152, might it had been because im running setcpu at the same time? setcpu's max ghz performance was set to 1, i feel like the max tegrak 1.152 made setcpu go crazy and made my phone rage quit. i'll try again with setcpu off
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Good gravy. No, definitely do NOT run more than one CPU scheduler at a time!
i uninstalled setcpu and i still get reboots within 10 seconds...hmm
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Just for clarity--are you getting a boot loop or just a reset when you overclock?
Also, the few devices I've come across fail under an OpenGL stress test--when overclocked. Stock devices are stable.
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Does it not support?..
Hey I have a SK4G also, here is my info:
Model number: SGH-T839
Firmware version: 2.3.5
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9-Platypus_Egg_v1
Build number: GenericGinger 2.0
When i try to load overclock module it states; "Your device or kernel is not available. Do you want to see available models?"
Do you think the developer can fix this?
i question which is better: overclocking or fixing how your phone manages memory. i have had two android devices and tried overclocking on both. while the phone may have been a tad more responsive, moving through windows a bit faster and a few other minor improvements, i didnt notice any real performance increase. however, i recently discovered the v6 supercharger script, and have noticed a huge difference. web pages are loading at least twice as fast and im not on 4g, my home screen doesnt redraw, multitouch has improved greatly, the screen doesnt freeze or lag as much, and my quadrant scores have improved. prior to supercharging, my quadrant score was in the 900's. after supercharging, its in the 1100's. its no 1500, but its a lot better than stock.
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I have read that the HTC Inspire has the same CPU as the Thunderbolt, if this is correct will the 1.8ghz overclock also work for the Thunderbolt? Anyone with some light on this situation?
dredoubleu said:
I have read that the HTC Inspire has the same CPU as the Thunderbolt, if this is correct will the 1.8ghz overclock also work for the Thunderbolt? Anyone with some light on this situation?
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We'll have to wait until we get custom kernels to do this. Each phone has a different kernel IIRC so you can't slap the Inspire OC on the Thunderbolt and rock on.
I'm sure we'll hit 1.8 if not 2.0. Just be patient.
I'm happy with 1G as is... but I could always use more speed.
According to Wikipedia:
Inspire uses the MSM8255 chip..
Thunderbolt uses the MSM8655.
They are both rated for 1ghz, but it could be that the MSM8655 is superior in other ways and might have a higher/safer overhead.. We might be able to get a 100% overclock or really dark close to it.
Diversion said:
According to Wikipedia:
Inspire uses the MSM8255 chip..
Thunderbolt uses the MSM8655.
They are both rated for 1ghz, but it could be that the MSM8655 is superior in other ways and might have a higher/safer overhead.. We might be able to get a 100% overclock or really dark close to it.
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The difference in the chips is the radio bands. 82XX is GSM and 86XX is CDMA.
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Would LOVE to get 1.8GHz!
Jimmy058910 said:
Would LOVE to get 1.8GHz!
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with a battery life of 45 mins.!
the guy who did that 1.8Ghz kernel claims he gets 20 hours or so on a charge.
I think it would easily get 20 hours on a full charge. Interactive only uses what it needs.
I'm gonna miss ChevyNo1s kernels on the OG Droid, they were amazing
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Diversion said:
According to Wikipedia:
Inspire uses the MSM8255 chip..
Thunderbolt uses the MSM8655.
They are both rated for 1ghz, but it could be that the MSM8655 is superior in other ways and might have a higher/safer overhead.. We might be able to get a 100% overclock or really dark close to it.
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the 8255 is the same cpu in the MT4G which can clock up to 1.8
They just did overclock it to 1.8ghz
The story here
2800 on the quadrant, another article shows a screenshot of 3000 too.
Also, tester says he was getting 12 hours (8AM to 8PM) with moderate use. 45 minutes, I think not...
Enjoy!
Sirjacksinurbox said:
They just did overclock it to 1.8ghz
The story here
2800 on the quadrant, another article shows a screenshot of 3000 too.
Also, tester says he was getting 12 hours (8AM to 8PM) with moderate use. 45 minutes, I think not...
Enjoy!
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lol I was being sarcastic. I am well aware of the fact that you can get good battery life out of an overclocked phone. I came from the evo 4G where I had "god" mode enabled and got great battery life.
P.S. God mode on the evo ment overclocking to 1.2Ghz. Most phones couldn't go that high, so you had to enable "god" mode to try.
Sirjacksinurbox said:
They just did overclock it to 1.8ghz
The story here
2800 on the quadrant, another article shows a screenshot of 3000 too.
Also, tester says he was getting 12 hours (8AM to 8PM) with moderate use. 45 minutes, I think not...
Enjoy!
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Money. I'll take it.
Now gimme a link!!!!
Good to know the phone doesn't disappoint.
I'm an inspire owner on an overclocked kernel. On 1800 my battery with normal use (tons of Facebook and xda app, email,~50 texts, and 10-15 2-5 min phone calls) gets ~20-24 hrs on a full charge. This was my best benchmark.
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Just loaded Drod's 1.5 GHZ overclock. 2483 on quadrant and a noticeably snappier interface.
Sirjacksinurbox said:
Just loaded Drod's 1.5 GHZ overclock. 2483 on quadrant and a noticeably snappier interface.
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I tried that as well. My Quadrant score was similar but I found browser scrolling and gameplay in Angry Birds to be noticeably choppy. Also, in Quadrant, the orbiting planet test pegs at 60fps stock where with this kernel it was jumping around all over at lower fps. Ended up flashing a different stock clocked kernel and everything was good again.
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I tried that as well. My Quadrant score was similar but I found browser scrolling and gameplay in Angry Birds to be noticeably choppy. Also, in Quadrant, the orbiting planet test pegs at 60fps stock where with this kernel it was jumping around all over at lower fps. Ended up flashing a different stock clocked kernel and everything was good again.
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Adrynalyne said somewhere that his 1.6GHz was thermal throttling ... this might also be what is happening in the situation you're describing.
we need to find the link to the kernel that has the TB OC'd to 1.8... >.>
I don't think the 1.8 is quite ready yet, but it seems a little excessive to me.. but thats just my humble opinion
javajoe1981 said:
I don't think the 1.8 is quite ready yet, but it seems a little excessive to me.. but thats just my humble opinion
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How dare u be humble!
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I have a kernel that is 1.8ghz capable, but it will reset after a while. So far it seems that 1.4ghz is stable. If I go any higher, eventually it resets. I have the Liquid sense rom installed. Haven't tried any others to see if the kernels are more stable at higher clocks.
Edit: with this ROM at 1.8hgz I get a 2571 on quadrant. I think that's particularly good. Too bad it resets once in a while. Any one recommend a good kernel for stable overclock?
I think I had around 1500-1600 on stock 2.3.3. I rooted and installed Netarchy 1.3.0 CFS kernel and it's back up to 2200. I did not overclock.
I did some search on Google and I've seen some going up to 4500 with custom ROM, kernel, and overclock.
I prefer keeping stock ROM, so is overclock pretty much only way to increase benchmark score? How much effect would it have, say if I purchased setCPU app and raised to 1.4 GHz?
Thanks!
I get around 2.700 - 2.800 with netarchy bfs, OCed to 1,4 GHz on stock 2.3.3
offenberg said:
I get around 2.700 - 2.800 with netarchy bfs, OCed to 1,4 GHz on stock 2.3.3
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So did you purchase setCPU (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mhuang.overclocking&feature=search_result) and switched to 1400 MHz and it brought your benchmark up to 2800?
How is the battery life with 1.4 GHz? Battery life and stability is what's worrying me the most about overclocking..
Thanks!
Yes I did. But I am not keeping it at 1400 MHz(it was for testing only). Performance is amazing when I have i set to 1200 max 100 min "ondemand" Just did a quadrant, and I got 2100.
Woah! I just killed all tasks running(not setCPU) and I got 3003. I was curious again, and tried when set to 1400. Got 3300.
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Woah! I just killed all tasks running(not setCPU) and I got 3003. I was curious again, and tried when set to 1400. Got 3300.
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So I guess it would be very possible to get mine over 3000 with simply overclocking since it's around 2200 without overclocking (only stock 2.3.3 ROM and Netarchy 1.3.0 CFS kernel).
Kind of bit wary about overclocking though because I think this is fast enough.
Modaco rom and morfic kernel overclock to 1.4ghz 3300 to 3700 on quadrant
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Modaco rom and morfic kernel overclock to 1.4ghz 3300 to 3700 on quadrant
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That's amazing. I plan to keep stock ROM so I think only way I could raise score is by overclocking..
How is the battery life after OC?
When you over clock it drains faster depending on the profiles you have set for screenoff. I have a kernel with the smartass profile built in. I'm running 1.8ghz with no problems but my battery last five hours. And I get 3421 in quadrant
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johnkim0011 said:
That's amazing. I plan to keep stock ROM so I think only way I could raise score is by overclocking..
How is the battery life after OC?
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yea, the only way youll raise the score significantly is by overclocking. and if you want to stay on the stock rom, youll have to find an overclocked kernel to flash and use setcpu(or similar) to set the oc.
about battery life, it really depends how you use your phone, even with overclocking. you can have absolutely great battery days, and you could have terrible battery days. i can overclock my phone up to 1.6ghz stably, but usually use a 1.4ghz kernel to oc. obviously, the faster you set it, the more battery itll use. but the difference isnt significant, unless youre oc'ed at 1.6ghz. btw, thats my 4500 in quadrant
simms22 said:
yea, the only way youll raise the score significantly is by overclocking. and if you want to stay on the stock rom, youll have to find an overclocked kernel to flash and use setcpu(or similar) to set the oc.
about battery life, it really depends how you use your phone, even with overclocking. you can have absolutely great battery days, and you could have terrible battery days. i can overclock my phone up to 1.6ghz stably, but usually use a 1.4ghz kernel to oc. obviously, the faster you set it, the more battery itll use. but the difference isnt significant, unless youre oc'ed at 1.6ghz. btw, thats my 4500 in quadrant
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Netarchy kernel is overclocked kernel right? I read that it can be OCed to 1.4 GHz. So in that case, I would just need to purchase setCPU app right?
johnkim0011 said:
Netarchy kernel is overclocked kernel right? I read that it can be OCed to 1.4 GHz. So in that case, I would just need to purchase setCPU app right?
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yes. they boot safely at 1ghz. then you set your desired speed. not all phones can handle an oc though. some can only handle 1.2ghz. and some not even that. some have no problems at 1.5 or 1.6ghz. your phone will let you know if its to much.
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yes. they boot safely at 1ghz. then you set your desired speed. not all phones can handle an oc though. some can only handle 1.2ghz. and some not even that. some have no problems at 1.5 or 1.6ghz. your phone will let you know if its to much.
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How do I find out if the phone is durable and stable after OC? Temperature of the phone, or O/S freezing??
My setting now is:
Performance
Max: 1400 MHz
Min: 1000 MHz
SELECT Set on boot
Did I set the settings right?
I got 2700-3000 with the setting above.
But it seems like there is no problem. I did stress test for a bit (stopped because it took long) but there was no error.
And I got little bit over 3200 with stock 2.3.3 ROM, Netarchy 1.3.0 CFS, and OC to 1.4 GHz when I set both Max and Min values to 1400 MHz
I was looking at screen shots from market but how do I set it to go down when temperature is hot?
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I don't see this option on my phone
Am I doing it right?
johnkim0011 said:
How do I find out if the phone is durable and stable after OC? Temperature of the phone, or O/S freezing??
My setting now is:
Performance
Max: 1400 MHz
Min: 1000 MHz
SELECT Set on boot
Did I set the settings right?
I got 2700-3000 with the setting above.
But it seems like there is no problem. I did stress test for a bit (stopped because it took long) but there was no error.
And I got little bit over 3200 with stock 2.3.3 ROM, Netarchy 1.3.0 CFS, and OC to 1.4 GHz when I set both Max and Min values to 1400 MHz
Am I doing it right?
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yea, looks like your doing it right. i always throw out the first 3 quadrants, the 4th or 5th is usually pretty good
btw, dont checkmark the set on boot option. otherwise it wont boot up at a safe speed and could throw you into bootloops.
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yea, looks like your doing it right. i always throw out the first 3 quadrants, the 4th or 5th is usually pretty good
btw, dont checkmark the set on boot option. otherwise it wont boot up at a safe speed and could throw you into bootloops.
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Is that why my SNS did not boot once? After Google logo displayed, it did not boot (although LED lights were on). I had to take out battery and put it back again.
I think that happened to me twice ever since I rooted. This did not happen prior to rooting.
So I would have to manually change setting on setCPU each time I reboot?
Thanks!
I guess the benchmark score varies after couple tries. I got it up to 3300 after updating to 1.3.0.1 Netarchy kernel.
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Is that why my SNS did not boot once? After Google logo displayed, it did not boot (although LED lights were on). I had to take out battery and put it back again.
I think that happened to me twice ever since I rooted. This did not happen prior to rooting.
So I would have to manually change setting on setCPU each time I reboot?
Thanks!
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you were booting if you had your keys lit up. thats just a dark boot without boot animation. that happens sometimes, since android 2.3.3 came out. just be patient, itll boot. theres no harm in it.oh, yea, youll have to change settings manually.
Hello. I've bought a nexus s a few days ago and I've started swapping roms.
My question is simple, how do people manage to get 4-5k quadrant scores?
Currently I'm using Pure Bionix 1.6 rom, but the maximum score I was able to get was around 3.3K.
Describe everything you do, from roms/kernels to apps closed etc.
Sorry if this is a newbie question
Install 1.6.1, then use SetCPU to OC the kernel.
That's how I achieved my 5300 quad.
You can also try other kernels as well.
YMMV
Use matrix rom amd just over clock abd run quadrant a few times back to back and you will hit 4500+
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cyanogenmod 7 + trinity 1.44
4500-5000
Oxygen 2.3.1 @ 1300Mhz ->> 4286, highest score for me with this ROM.
And I didn't do anything special to get this score, I only overclocked CPU.
Thanks for the answers. I've done as you've said krylon. I installed 1.6.1 and oced the cpu to 1540 1540 on demand, however the max score I was able to get was around 3400. Am I missing something?
I'm using adv task killer to kill all the running apps before the test.
My nexus s is an i9023 btw.
spartanpg said:
Thanks for the answers. I've done as you've said krylon. I installed 1.6.1 and oced the cpu to 1540 1540 on demand, however the max score I was able to get was around 3400. Am I missing something?
I'm using adv task killer to kill all the running apps before the test.
My nexus s is an i9023 btw.
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set setcpu to 1540 max/1540 low. bench four times in a row, throw out the first 2 results, the forth should be the highest.
That's what I'm doing atm, yet the max I get is 3400.
Me and my luck with cell phones
spartanpg said:
That's what I'm doing atm, yet the max I get is 3400.
Me and my luck with cell phones
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its possible that your phone doesnt like that high of a overclock. try trinity t144 kernel. also, have you updated to the most recent bionix?
I flashed the T144 kernel and the phone got a bit slower yet really stable. The thing is the scores went down a little bit, around 3250 which I already expected. Could it be the phone itself?
I've youtubed a bit to watch how other 4000+ runs went and on the first image teste (2d if I'm not mistaken) I'm obtaining a constant 27-28 fps rate, and that was the only difference.
No need to worry about that. Quadrant scores can be faked and really don't mean much when it comes down to it. It's all about the real world performance.
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I flashed the T144 kernel and the phone got a bit slower yet really stable. The thing is the scores went down a little bit, around 3250 which I already expected. Could it be the phone itself?
I've youtubed a bit to watch how other 4000+ runs went and on the first image teste (2d if I'm not mistaken) I'm obtaining a constant 27-28 fps rate, and that was the only difference.
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are you using quadrant advanced or standard? if youre using quadrant advanced, could you provide a screenshot please. id really like to see the score breakdown. the score is really low. also, in the op of the Trinity thread in the development section is a dalvik-wiper.zip, would you flash it please, then try again.
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No need to worry about that. Quadrant scores can be faked and really don't mean much when it comes down to it. It's all about the real world performance.
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orgasms can be faked too, that doesnt mean anybody is faking there quadrant scores here. with such a low quadrant score for these kernels, i bet his real world performance is reduced also.
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orgasms can be faked too, that doesnt mean anybody is faking there quadrant scores here. with such a low quadrant score for these kernels, i bet his real world performance is reduced also.
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While not necessarily being faked you can't say that a test where you throw out the first three scores and then use the forth because it is always higher is terribly accurate or being honest. Just because you ran quadrant four times and got a score with 500 more points on the last test doesn't automatically mean your real world performance is that much better. Honestly it's just the Android equivlant of buying a really big truck to overcompensate for something else (not to mention the cause of people always asking these types of questions over and over).
So after searching around I found some1 in xda with a similar problem and I ended using this in the terminal:
su(press enter)
mount -o remount,noauto_da_alloc /data /data(press enter)
And believe it or not, after that I managed to get 4500 right away in standard quadrant 1.1.7. After closing apps and getting advanced quadrant 1.1.1, I managed to get 4900, which is more than fine for me. What I'd like to know is what exacly did that command do.
Regarding the dalvik-wiper.zip, I wasn't able to find it. Will it by any means increase the performance further?
Finally I'd like to ask two things:
1) How safe is it to run a Min 100 Max 1440 OC setting?
2) In case of warranty issues, will this fully revert the phone to the original (or updated from original) state? - http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-unroot-nexus-s-i9020ti9020ai9023/
Thanks for all the help so far
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So after searching around I found some1 in xda with a similar problem and I ended using this in the terminal:
su(press enter)
mount -o remount,noauto_da_alloc /data /data(press enter)
And believe it or not, after that I managed to get 4500 right away in standard quadrant 1.1.7. After closing apps and getting advanced quadrant 1.1.1, I managed to get 4900, which is more than fine for me. What I'd like to know is what exacly did that command do.
Regarding the dalvik-wiper.zip, I wasn't able to find it. Will it by any means increase the performance further?
Finally I'd like to ask two things:
1) How safe is it to run a Min 100 Max 1440 OC setting?
2) In case of warranty issues, will this fully revert the phone to the original (or updated from original) state? - http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-unroot-nexus-s-i9020ti9020ai9023/
Thanks for all the help so far
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i didnt even consider that because its included in the bionix/trinity combo. but it does have to be included in a stock rom. whats odd is, how did you lose it
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While not necessarily being faked you can't say that a test where you throw out the first three scores and then use the forth because it is always higher is terribly accurate or being honest. Just because you ran quadrant four times and got a score with 500 more points on the last test doesn't automatically mean your real world performance is that much better. Honestly it's just the Android equivlant of buying a really big truck to overcompensate for something else (not to mention the cause of people always asking these types of questions over and over).
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you are in a way right and in a way youre wrong, im not going to argue the fact that all benchmarks are inaccurate. because they are. and ive proved it over and over again. BUT, that said.. its a good way to see where the phones performence is and where it should be(if youre not cheating), especially if youre a developer. for example, when morfic makes some changes in a kernel, we run benchmarks to see how and where that change effected the performance.
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you are in a way right and in a way youre wrong, im not going to argue the fact that all benchmarks are inaccurate. because they are. and ive proved it over and over again. BUT, that said.. its a good way to see where the phones performence is and where it should be(if youre not cheating), especially if youre a developer. for example, when morfic makes some changes in a kernel, we run benchmarks to see how and where that change effected the performance.
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I was just making the point that most of the super high quadrant scores are inflated and not very accurate, but I agree with you in that benchmarks are a good way to make general comparisons like the example you described, but it isn't an end all, be all. When it comes down to it real world, user experience in my opinion is what really matters.
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I was just making the point that most of the super high quadrant scores are inflated and not very accurate, but I agree with you in that benchmarks are a good way to make general comparisons like the example you described, but it isn't an end all, be all. When it comes down to it real world, user experience in my opinion is what really matters.
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real world use is all that matters, period. but quadrants are still fun to run, as long as no body is cheating. speaking of, this is from a galaxy s 2 at 1.6ghz, the nexus s has officially been dethroned from the top of quadrant.. http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...-benchmarks-nearly-7800-in-quadrant-20111110/
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Any chance I could get these answered please? Would really apreciate it.
1) How safe is it to run a Min 100 Max 1440 OC setting?
2) In case of warranty issues, will this fully revert the phone to the original (or updated from original) state? - http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks...0ti9020ai9023/
Hello everyone I just have a quick question... What is the trick to get quadrant scores up above 5000? I've seen many people with high scores and I've tried everything and never got out of the 4000`s, actually every time I've ran quadrant, HTC one x beats out my device.
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ray7171 said:
Hello everyone I just have a quick question... What is the trick to get quadrant scores up above 5000? I've seen many people with high scores and I've tried everything and never got out of the 4000`s, actually every time I've ran quadrant, HTC one x beats out my device.
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Depends, is your phone rooted? Or is it just running stock TW?
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Hello everyone I just have a quick question... What is the trick to get quadrant scores up above 5000? I've seen many people with high scores and I've tried everything and never got out of the 4000`s, actually every time I've ran quadrant, HTC one x beats out my device.
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who cares Its just a number. But if it means that much to you run it several times in a row, it will eventually mess up and give you a hugh fake number You can show all your friends
I got over 30,000 once on my dx and it was still choppy!
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who cares Its just a number. But if it means that much to you run it several times in a row, it will eventually mess up and give you a hugh fake number You can show all your friends
I got over 30,000 once on my dx and it was still choppy!
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Yep, its a number, and trying to "increase" it to make the phone "faster" is dumb. If stock has a 1.5ghz clock and scored lets say 4800, Cm10 might be +/- 200 but on the same clock it cant score much higher..... without dumb modifications to fake it.
It is not dumb at all.. You are trying to optimize the performance of your phone.. Make sure battery power saving is turned off, close all applications, usually running after a fresh reboot help. Overclocking helps.
I scored this https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/527107_10151086780898557_1408887957_n.jpg
I was saying the number of 4800 as an example. And yes power saving lowers cpu clock I believe so that affects the score. I'm running a test on cm10 no overclock or anything to show what a true score is. of course overclocking makes it faster, thats not dumb but modifications geared to increase the actual score is silly.
Just got 4400.
These tools are used to give an estimate of how your device compares to other devices... That being said I am running Cleanrom/Cleankernel and get just about the same numbers all the time except for Linpack... I have my phone overclocked to 1800-1999 ghz and my scores are below but it depends on your hardware too... You might not be able to push some phones that high but mine is totally stable at these overclocks so I def have a keeper but my damn home button sticks so I am in the process of getting a replacement... Much love to Cleanrom though!! :good:
I also have no secrets as to make my score higher and even if I did that would be stupid!! IMO
Pretty much all developers will tell you quadrant and benchmarks do not (always) translate to real world performance.
That said: ROMs and kernels will affect scores.
CPU governors will affect scores
Overclocking your CPU will boost our score.
The current jellybean leaks is very fast - will give you scores of 5500+ if that's what our looking for.
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Why are people over clocking this phone? Is their anything on Android that really needs more power then a dual core S4 at 1.5ghz?
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Why are people over clocking this phone? Is their anything on Android that really needs more power then a dual core S4 at 1.5ghz?
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Nope, not at all............ someone here please tell me why the phone isnt fast enough enough at 1.5?
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Yep, its a number, and trying to "increase" it to make the phone "faster" is dumb. If stock has a 1.5ghz clock and scored lets say 4800, Cm10 might be +/- 200 but on the same clock it cant score much higher..... without dumb modifications to fake it.
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The point is Quadrant sucks and is unreliable, I wasn't kidding when I said I got a 30,000 once....Run it a few times in a row it gets a little better as you repeat. Different biuldprop settings can also make a big difference so different ROMS could easily have vastly different scores.. You couldn't see that +/-200 in real life anyways...... admit it you just want bragging rights :highfive: cooomme onnn admit it
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Nope, not at all............ someone here please tell me why the phone isnt fast enough enough at 1.5?
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I run mine at 1.2 and honestly I can't tell a difference between 1.2, 1.5, and 2.1 beyond benches telling me it's faster.
Please excuse my Galaxy S III, it's a bit Paranoid.
Just for fun....I loaded unofficial cm 9/13 by invisiblek, antutu was 7383. I then loaded ktoonz kernel, it goes up to 8123 (did not overclock). There was someone oc'ed it and got >9000.
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Nope, not at all............ someone here please tell me why the phone isnt fast enough enough at 1.5?
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you dont belong here i think... you've missed the point entirely.
BECAUSE YOU CAN
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I run mine at 1.2 and honestly I can't tell a difference between 1.2, 1.5, and 2.1 beyond benches telling me it's faster.
Please excuse my Galaxy S III, it's a bit Paranoid.
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I just run the phone at 1.0ghz to save on battery and apart from the occasional lag that comes with it, it's not that bad. Had my battery go over 2 days without a single charge due to the underclocking.
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Absolutely stock here. Don't get hung up over benchmark scores... they're only useful for comparing YOUR device before and after you make changes.
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If you REALLY want the best score (and I recommend this when you use a benchmark the right way... like I said, to measure the result of changes), restart your phone, let everything load, then run it. A bunch of background operations can and will slow things down.
But again... they're meaningless for the most part. I could run it again now and the numbers could be wildly different.
Quadrant scores mean nothing.
Maybe u guys just don't know how to test very well or thoroughly, or don't know what to look for. Benchmarks do help. If u know how to use them. No, they don't always show real world use. They should be used to determine the phones maximum. I use them for judging how well they will play through the hardest emulator game, or most intense Android game. It isn't the only thing I go by, but when figuring out new settings or trying to push a new kernel to its absolute max, it is useful as well.
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Hi, first of all I would just say that I've searched around and tried different things such as putting a piece of paper between the battery and the wall.
The problem is coming after I have used the phone for about two or three minutes, then it just turns off and reboots. After the reboot it just stays on the splash screen and I have to take out the battery and wait a couple minutes to let the phone cool off. It doesn't get very hot, but I can feel it working. I have tried four ROMS but the problem persists. I started getting the reboots after I S-Off'd the phone and upgraded the firmware and installed ICS. Before that the phone could run for hours and it could also become hot (45 degrees celsius) without any problem. I am currently running:
CM 10 (10-20120818-bruce2728-pyramid)
Build number: cm_pyramid-userdebug 4.1.1 JRO0L eng. bruce.20120818.021714 test-keys
Baseband: 11.69.3504.00P_11.22.3504.07_M
Kernel: 3.0.41 [email protected] #1
I'm not using any over/underclock either.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
UPDATE: I think it is because I undevolted the battery. The only problem is that I can't seem to find the volt option in System Tuner Pro anymore and I don't know which values I should set it to.
b3ndik said:
UPDATE: I think it is because I undevolted the battery. The only problem is that I can't seem to find the volt option in System Tuner Pro anymore and I don't know which values I should set it to.
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Use the reset button there in the voltage section... It will give you back the default voltage
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Use the reset button there in the voltage section... It will give you back the default voltage
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Will that work even though I don't have any backup saved and wiped multiple times or will it just set the settings to what they are today?
Bump, really need help with this issue due to the fact that I need my phone for everyday use. I'm not coming that far into System Tuner Pro before the phone shuts down. Really annoying.
Thanks
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Bump, really need help with this issue due to the fact that I need my phone for everyday use. I'm not coming that far into System Tuner Pro before the phone shuts down. Really annoying.
Thanks
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I don't think you can restore 'default' voltage settings in System Tuner unless you have saved a previous configuration as default. I would say your best bet to at least try and get some system stability back is to hit the +12.5 mV button which will add that value to every frequency. Try it once, if no success try a second time but you'll need some care or you might cause some other issues. You only need to get as far as the Voltage tab from the System Tuner main page, hopefully you can do that before the phone shuts down.
To give you some idea where your voltages are sitting, my stock settings started at 800mV @ 192 MHz through to 1325mV @ 1.83 GHz. I have the whole lot undervolted by 12.5mV.
Undervolting doesn't mean reducing the voltage across your battery.
It's just reducing the potential difference across your processor.
Now, to remove the undervolage that you've already done, disable the set on boot option in system tuner.
Flash your ROM without wiping & that's all you need to do.
If the problem still persists, try this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622683
Thanks guys! I can't see any voltage option in System Tuner Pro though. Does this mean that my kernel does not support it? Still running what is stated in the OP. Really appreciate it.
So, now I have AHRD with 3.33 fw. I also have a custom kernel. How does my settings look? Is it supposed to be 12.5v between every stage? I think I only changed the top 4 or so, so I don't have a clue what they should be set to.
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edit: I have also hit the +12.5v button once and twice, still rebooting
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So, now I have AHRD with 3.33 fw. I also have a custom kernel. How does my settings look? Is it supposed to be 12.5v between every stage? I think I only changed the top 4 or so, so I don't have a clue what they should be set to.
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Looks like you're actually overvolted there, even before you hit +12.5mV a couple of times. My default settings were 800mV @ 192 MHz then 12.5mV increase between frequencies as you said, up to 1325mV @ 1.83 GHz.
Which kernel do you have now? For the sake of the argument I'd suggest dropping your voltages back down to normal and see what happens first.
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You can try Increasing the Min Feq to the second lowest. dont remember the value. You can also try another kernel, Iv been using brices cm10 for quite while an i hat reboot issues with the tamcore kernel but not with the ones which cme with the rom. The rom is pretty stable now
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Looks like you're actually overvolted there, even before you hit +12.5mV a couple of times. My default settings were 800mV @ 192 MHz then 12.5mV increase between frequencies as you said, up to 1325mV @ 1.83 GHz.
Which kernel do you have now? For the sake of the argument I'd suggest dropping your voltages back down to normal and see what happens first.
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Thanks, I tried what you said, but it was no good. Now I use this kernel.
Edit: I got 1 min and 37 secs with those settings in Stability Test.
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You can try Increasing the Min Feq to the second lowest. dont remember the value. You can also try another kernel, Iv been using brices cm10 for quite while an i hat reboot issues with the tamcore kernel but not with the ones which cme with the rom. The rom is pretty stable now
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I've tried about 4 ROMS, sense and non sense, with stock kernels and without, and it still happens. Really annoying, but thanks for the reply.
It seems that the phone shuts down when it gets hot, not too hot just +-22 degrees celsius. I can let it run for hours when idle, but if i start to surf the web (or any other task) it shuts down after two minutes.
I can't see why your phone would shut down at such a low temperature, there has to be something else going on, I think under/over-volting can be ruled out for the moment. Can I recommend having a read of this thread, I'm thinking a logcat or last_kmsg might be useful in trying to find the problem.
Unfortunately I'm not equipped to decipher logcats etc. so you'll need to pass them on to a dev or someone with a bit of debugging knowledge. For last_kmsg wait until the phone dies, then boot it back up and grab the last_kmsg through adb as per the thread I linked you to.
I can't remember off the top of my head but there are some people on here offering live help on IRC, that might be your best bet. Either that or the dev of the ROM you're using might be able to help.
Thanks, will definately check this out.