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This is a physical problem, the screen works fine and has no distortion as far as what it looks like when its on. But I noticed this weekend that when it was off I noticed a like triangular section in the middle of the screen, where it has a rainbow-ish discoloration pattern and small dots in the middle of the screen, about 1/4 of a inch inward all the way around the display part of the screen. The dots are in a perfect grid-like format and the rainbow color distortion almost looks like an oil slick.
I have had the factory screen protector on it since day one, I peeled it back today only to find its on the screen itself, I tried to wipe it off and nothing. I always carry the phone in a belt clip and never in my pocket, etc. So I don't know how it could have gotten damaged or how damage could cause such a curios perfect pattern of strangeness on the screen.
Anyone else ever seen this happen?
well i have heard its damage from high pressure... the touch layer in the screen gets damaged some how and leaves an oil looking spot... sorry but here is a good thread on what i think your seeing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428749&highlight=spot+screen
Oh wow/crap its times like this when I guess I'm glad I'm not a regular consumer but have this through work, so I'm sure they will replace it, if not they will buy me another. Should I even get another or is there something like this but better? I'm with ATT.
If you want a windows mobile powerhouse stay with the fuze... for sure... i have had mine since november when they first came out for at&t and mine runs and looks great... no screen problems or anything... ya and good thing its through your company
This is the second fuze ive owned... and this is also the second time this has happened. In the middle of the screen there is a small block of like a rainbow of colors... but you can only see it in certain light...
Has anyone else ever come across this?
icewhitenewyear said:
This is the second fuze ive owned... and this is also the second time this has happened. In the middle of the screen there is a small block of like a rainbow of colors... but you can only see it in certain light...
Has anyone else ever come across this?
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Mine too.. But i have a screen protector on it so I figured maybe its the screen protector? never really check it without the screen protection.
Yes.
My first fuze did this after a few days, its an exact square with sort of a frame, I was thinking it was condensation, but my phone has been dry always....
I thought it was weird that it was square shaped and a almost perfect square.
Anyone know what this is?
Yep...nothing unusual for raph unfortunatelly...my old post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2934571#post2934571
BTW, this is well known issue by HTC so replacement is in most cases done free of charge as a part of warranty. Eventhough I've heard that in some cases in UK, HTC was demanding some kind of payment for replacement.
Anyway, this cannot be fixed in any other way but replacing the screen....afaik
I was told that it means that the screen under the digitizer is broken. Most likely from pressure on the middle of the screen.
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I was told that it means that the screen under the digitizer is broken. Most likely from pressure on the middle of the screen.
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Oh man, mine just expanded Can I know what did you guys do?
Pressure between flat wires, conductive tapes and backside of LCD screen causes the problem. You should take apart your Raphael to see the back of LCD. There is a very thing black tape around the display. Check it for any kinf of damage. If there is no sign of penetration, make the same thin tape from any kind of office tape and place it over dark one. I hope this can help you.
Be a HTC Indiana Jones, take the danger and DIY!
i was just about to start a post about this. the middle of my screern (75% of the screen) has these rainbow swirls and they form a perfect rectangle. you can also see a grid of dots. once i noticed this square i started havin problems where its as if someone is pressing the touchscren just on top right corner of this rectangle. so i cant go through menus and it will randomly go away. it also happens on other random locations. can someone explain what i should do?
Mine just did the same thing. The phone seems to work normally. I called and I am sending it in for warranty repair. Is there any way to prevent this from happening in the future? If they replace the screen, do they have some process in place to prevent the same issue? I really love this phone!
Oh, and now my iPhone loving friends are all saying, "You shoulda got an iPhone!" I dont want a crappy iPhone, I just want a good screen! This is my second phone already.....I have never dropped or abused it in any way.... I really wish they used better quality screens. i can do tons more stuff with my phone that my "iPhone friends" cannot....
UPDATE: to anyone who gets this problem. I finally got around to calling ATT and they say its not a known problem so its not covered within warrenty. They want 500 to fix it.... Then I called HTC and they said this is whats known as a Newton ring and its due to pressure applied to the screen so they wont fix it under warrenty. Now they are asking for 200 for it to be fixed. Not worth the fix if u ask me. Thier rep was pretty shocked it was on a Fuze and said hes seen this before and they never fix it under warrenty so its not worth sending it in unless im prepared for the bill.
picked up 2 Nexus S on release day, went home happy. Preoccupied with work, so I only powered them up last night.
To my Surprise, both phones have dust under the glass! WTF Samsung? Removed the plastic sheet on the front to make sure, and yes, it's under the glass.
on one phone the dust was smack in the middle, while on the other phone it was a little left of the middle.
Can't be seen on a dark screen, but once you switch to a white background like the web or texting you can see it.
I know I am probably being OCD and anal about this, but heck I paid over $1k for both phones out of contract.
Went back to BestBuy and returned them promply, of course now they are sold out, and I have to wait for the next shipment.
Just wondering if others have similar experiences? BTW, I also had a Galaxy Tab and before returned it, it also had some dust specs under the glass...
I also own an HD2 and G2, seems HTC is better at QC.
Shame, really want this phone but WTF samsung?
Nope you sure its under the glass?
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No dust under the screen here.
It seems that this first batch of phones is a rather mixed bag; some have defects and others are fine. It was a good idea to return them, hopefully your replacements will be free of issues.
My first S had a little speck of something. I initially thought it was a dead pixel, but I could see it when the screen was off also so I assumed it was dust. I returned it and checked the next one out before I left the store and it seems to be good.
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Nope you sure its under the glass?
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100% sure, remove the screen protectors on both of them and rubbed the area where it was, thought it was a dead pixel too, but no it was fine on a dark background, but on a white background could see it easily.
sold out at my local bb, but still available online might go that route.
just wanted to see other people's experiences or maybe they didnt notice yet, lol.
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100% sure, remove the screen protectors on both of them and rubbed the area where it was, thought it was a dead pixel too, but no it was fine on a dark background, but on a white background could see it easily.
sold out at my local bb, but still available online might go that route.
just wanted to see other people's experiences or maybe they didnt notice yet, lol.
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this happen when you have 2 layers for the screen. the internal part and the upper part where you touch.
there is an advantage for this. if god forbid you dropped and broke the screen, only the upper part gets replaced. and wouldnt cost you much to do so " and you wont get another screen with dead pixel and being OCD whatever the new screen is good or not. because the actuall inner screen isnt touched.
the bad thing about is what you said. dust can enter in the middle between both layers of the screen.
even if you get a new nexus S without dust under the screen, if you leave it in the open area with sun and wind always hitting it, you will get a dust somehow inside as well. so make sure your phone is in a pocket most of the time.
the only phone i remember right now that had both layers of the screens touched as 1 part is the iphone 2G and the iphone 4 " i am sure there are others but i dont know "
this result to no dust under the screen no matter what " unless the dust came from factory while they were attaching both screens on top of each other and glue them "
but if you break your screen in the iphone 4.... god help you.
Yeah, after about a week and couple of days of usage, I've got my first spec of dust in the top left area of the screen. Really, it's nothing noticeable but I do have some sort of OCD with my phone (god help me if I get a visible scratch on the screen).
I don't think it's really worth taking it back to get it changed as this Nexus S I have currently has no problems whatsoever, I don't even have the pink or yellow screen issue with this one. I think I'm just gonna have to live with that one spec of dust for now...
I think this may be just bad QC. I looked at ifixit taking apart the NS. Basically they said the trickiest part to the disassembly was the screen, and they had to use a heat gun to soften the glue just to separate the 2 screens. So dust entering between those 2 screens would be pretty difficult unless the glue wasn't properly applied from the assembly line.
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I don't have dust under my Nexus S screen... but I do have dust under my front facing camera! And its only recently just got there - I remember playing around with it extensively when I first got it 6 months ago and the camera was really clear and sharp.
Now it is all fuzzy and white haze. And I can see all the dust particles on the underside of the glass. Annoying!
Anyone know if there's an easy way to clean it? Or is it a case of back to Samsung?
I don't have a G2X yet, but I wonder if an owner who has some LCD bleed might want to try this out and report any results.
Screen bleed is a pretty common problem across LCD's. I don't think it's so much of a manufacturing defect as it is due to shifting during transport etc. All that has to happen is a corner of the screen gets too far or too close to the back light behind it. The screens tend to shift around a bit in their casing.
A common fix on regular LCD monitors is to massage the area of the bleed with medium or firm pressure. This can move the screen enough to reduce bleed.
Not sure if this would work on a glass-surface device like the G2X but it's probably worth a shot. Also try massaging with pressure *behind* the phone, not just on the front glass.
Ipad 2 seems to be having some bleed issues as well, and some owners report that slight twisting of the entire device corner-to-corner can re-seat the screen in the proper position and reduce bleed. Be careful with this one, but again, might be worth a shot to apply some twisting pressure.
Not recommending that anyone does this who isn't comfortable and ok with the possible consequences! But... as I live in Canada and want a G2X, it would be a lot easier to know that this sort of thing might fix the bleed than it would be to attempt returning it to the USA or an ebay reseller.
Please keep the "ARE YOU CRAZY?!" replies to a minimum... if you don't want to do it then simply don't do it.
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I don't have a G2X yet, but I wonder if an owner who has some LCD bleed might want to try this out and report any results.
Screen bleed is a pretty common problem across LCD's. I don't think it's so much of a manufacturing defect as it is due to shifting during transport etc. All that has to happen is a corner of the screen gets too far or too close to the back light behind it. The screens tend to shift around a bit in their casing.
A common fix on regular LCD monitors is to massage the area of the bleed with medium or firm pressure. This can move the screen enough to reduce bleed.
Not sure if this would work on a glass-surface device like the G2X but it's probably worth a shot. Also try massaging with pressure *behind* the phone, not just on the front glass.
Ipad 2 seems to be having some bleed issues as well, and some owners report that slight twisting of the entire device corner-to-corner can re-seat the screen in the proper position and reduce bleed. Be careful with this one, but again, might be worth a shot to apply some twisting pressure.
Not recommending that anyone does this who isn't comfortable and ok with the possible consequences! But... as I live in Canada and want a G2X, it would be a lot easier to know that this sort of thing might fix the bleed than it would be to attempt returning it to the USA or an ebay reseller.
Please keep the "ARE YOU CRAZY?!" replies to a minimum... if you don't want to do it then simply don't do it.
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I just tried and I will say that the places that I had it originally did not get fixed or seem to be any dimmer than before which would have been nice... My bleeding is not that bad anyway...
However, the first time i twisted the phone a bit i noticed some more bleeding in the upper left of my phone (portrait directional) before i twisted it back to normal...
Good idea, but i would not recommend anything until we have some concrete evidence of it really working to fix ORIGINAL problems
lol this is not a fix and NEVER was a fix... you cant "massage" a LCD tv.... and a phone is no different gorilla glass or not it will NOT reset the screen.... good attempt at trying to find a solution but the bleeding isnt from the screen being out of place... its from poor manufacturing...
some bleeding is expected with LCD technology ... but not as bad as ive seen on some peoples ..... let alone on a 4" screen... but w/e if you have full brightness and are in a dark room then you must be blind.....
I wouldn't do it because you have to disassemble and it may void the warranty; in addition, you may break the LCD if you apply too much force.
If the bleeding/backlight leak is bad, just send it back and exchange.
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lol this is not a fix and NEVER was a fix... you cant "massage" a LCD tv....
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Yes, you can. I fixed all bleed from my Acer 26" lcd by doing exactly this. I could see and feel the panel noticeably creaking back as I did it.
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Yes, you can. I fixed all bleed from my Acer 26" lcd by doing exactly this. I could see and feel the panel noticeably creaking back as I did it.
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I've done the same, actually.
It made it a lot worse on mine. Good, though, as I plan to exchange it.
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I've done the same, actually.
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well i never herd of "massaging" a tv to fix it but i wouldnt do it to my 52" samsung cuz the manual states DO NOT PUSH FIRMLY ON SCREEN WHEN CLEANING so i dunno how it would work without taking it apart and "pushing the screen" back to the right spot...
let alone i got a 3 year warranty from best buy on it.. and if i crack it open AT ALL it voids so no thanks if anyone does this and it works on a phone i will be awed....
AND you shouldnt have to push the screen on ANYTHING to fix it... it should come correctly assembled in the first place....
just my .02 tho
I actually did fix my girlfriends bleeding with some massaging....Worked for me..
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I actually did fix my girlfriends bleeding with some massaging....Worked for me..
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what you did there. . .
I tried the massage but it doesn't work. I have very bad light bleeding from the top corners, and if I squeeze hard enough on top and bottom of the phone, it's a little better, but as I release my hands, everything goes back to normal, very bad looking darks colors. I'm exchanging it.
When my LCD screen started bleeding, I just put a bandaid on it
Asus bleeding
dasbin said:
Yes, you can. I fixed all bleed from my Acer 26" lcd by doing exactly this. I could see and feel the panel noticeably creaking back as I did it.
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I have heard of this a lot. Massaging the LCD. I too am looking to fix a laptop screen. I heard before to massage the back of it, what side did you do? No one here who was successful mentioned if they did it to the front or back so I figured I'll do as you did? Thanks any help much appreciated!
My iPhone 5 is bleeding, pushed on it gently and it only made the black blotch spread. I don't recommend this
ok guys im back with a g2x.. had a nexus s there for awhile. anyways i trade my nexus s for the g2x in perfect shape but i noticed under the screen has 1 spec of dust and what looks like to be a few fingerprints or something. not sure what it is but i dont think this phone has been taken apart. is there away i can find out? the good thing is that this phone doesnt really have any screen bleeding which is awesome. the guy said he had this phone for 4 month and he was an older guy that didnt seem like he knew a lot about phones. lol i will post pics and u can kinda see what im talking about.
looks like a replaced lcd display, not sure about that
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looks like a replaced lcd display, not sure about that
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well i was gonna have tmobile replace it but i dont know if it has ever been taken apart. the good thing is the phone has no screen bleeding lol
Are those scratches?!
No screen bleeding sounds like a custom job. If you get another one, it'll have it.... some worse then others. I've swapped a few and screen bleed has all varied. My original was the best but the GB updater killed it. The second replacement I sent back because the bleed was so bad. The third was a little worse then my original, but by then I had 2 tiny scratches... so it was a good trade off.
Dust and a fingerprint would have me swapping it out.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
Looks like scratches.
yeah it has a few good scratches going down the middle of the screen and u only see it when the screen is white. looks pretty bad thought and there are a lot of scratches underneath the screen. then in two corners it looks like a smug of a finger print and there is one piece of dust that stands out when the screen is white (like for a text message) it drives me nuts. tmobile said they will replace it but i dont want them charging me money if they find out the phone has been opened up to replace the screen. i never did it but whoever did failed so bad it wasnt even funny. i didnt noticed any of it until i was in a dark room. in the sun light i dont notice anything.
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Are those scratches?!
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yeah they are. most are underneath the screen too which made me think the lcd screen has been replaced.
A factory phone would never have dust or fingerprints under the screen. The phone had to at the least have been taken apart and then carelessly handled before being put back together. When I tear down phones for repair I am extra careful about blowing out all dust and cleaning the inside of the screen (and try to never touch it).
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A factory phone would never have dust or fingerprints under the screen. The phone had to at the least have been taken apart and then carelessly handled before being put back together. When I tear down phones for repair I am extra careful about blowing out all dust and cleaning the inside of the screen (and try to never touch it).
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damn i wish u would have fixed whatever was wrong with this phones lcd. cause whoever did it sucked ass seriously lol. the dude failed to tell me it was taken apart. he said he has it for, 4 months and had no issues with it. which i havent had any reboots or screen bleeding but the dust and smug is driving me nuts lol. unless its a refurbished g2x but i doubt they would have done a ****y job like that. but how do u even fix the screen bleeding?
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damn i wish u would have fixed whatever was wrong with this phones lcd. cause whoever did it sucked ass seriously lol. the dude failed to tell me it was taken apart. he said he has it for, 4 months and had no issues with it. which i havent had any reboots or screen bleeding but the dust and smug is driving me nuts lol. unless its a refurbished g2x but i doubt they would have done a ****y job like that. but how do u even fix the screen bleeding?
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Screen bleed cannot be fixed. It is an inherent design flaw of iPS displays. Some have it worse than others, but they all have it to some extent.
The only way to fix the smudges, etc. is to get a new digitizer and do a clean job of replacing the top part of the phone that the digitizer is attached to.
Specs of dust under the screen unfortunately seem to be an LG issue anyway, doesn't necessarily say the digitizer/glass has been replaced.
I bought my G2X brand new from T-Mobile, opened the box myself. And there's a piece of dust under the "back" touch button, at the top of the arrow. Bugs me now and then, but at least it's not on the main screen.