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So tmonews.com just announced another update for the 4g. http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/android-phone-updates-galore/
I wonder if the mytouch 4g update is the second update or if its the first one that many of us got in the first few days of owning the device. Any one know?
Damnit I still haven't gotten the first one!
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I was just about to post about that... I would definitely like to know also because my video chat does not work that well (especially low volume!).
mikea3000 said:
So tmonews.com just announced another update for the 4g. http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/android-phone-updates-galore/
I wonder if the mytouch 4g update is the second update or if its the first one that many of us got in the first few days of owning the device. Any one know?
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in the article(picture) it says this fixes qik bugs
Link is down what did it say?
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Personally, I would wait for CM or another rom to come out. Video chat will probably be optimized (among other things) in those roms anyway and there is no telling what this will do to root. It may "fix" root and plug up the exploit so that you are back at square one again.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
It's the same update we know about.
I would love cm on here but I hope there will be some way to keep the genius button. That's one piece of bloat ware that I love. I heard someone with a g2 had it on their rooted device so maybe a easy to add it to our custom ruins when they come out?
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our custom ruins when they come out?
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Gotta love auto correct!
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its not the same one... this is the second one.... i installed the first ota update days ago, and the new one popped up last night. so this is indeed a second ota update.
Was it a regular OTA or just a OTA that pops up when you open up Qik? Thanks.
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Was it a regular OTA or just a OTA that pops up when you open up Qik? Thanks.
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regular... i have never opened Qik
Since the link is down - what specific items did it mention - or was it just a general announcement without any specifics?
I wonder if it matters which data plan you're on regarding getting the OTA's...? I'm on mytouch unlimited web, but I think the newest one is 4G unlimited web.
grankin01 said:
Personally, I would wait for CM or another rom to come out. Video chat will probably be optimized (among other things) in those roms anyway and there is no telling what this will do to root. It may "fix" root and plug up the exploit so that you are back at square one again.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
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It is interesting that after root is released, An update is announced.
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It is interesting that after root is released, An update is announced.
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I was wondering about that also. If it was to plug a hole, it will become evident if those with the 2nd OTA find that the s=off and/or the rooting itself procedures no longer work. And then there is tethering....
Would TMo be that mean ???
If you make a backup using Clockwork, could you just reflash to get back to where you were if the new OTA takes away root?
If it's just a Qik update, can Qik from the new version be pulled from it and then installed on a phone without the newest OTA?
no because you need root to nandroid your phone
Only one update. If you have 2.2.1 thats the update for qik and some bugs; I got the email from HTC in their monthly news email.
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mikea3000 said:
So tmonews.com just announced another update for the 4g. http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/android-phone-updates-galore/
I wonder if the mytouch 4g update is the second update or if its the first one that many of us got in the first few days of owning the device. Any one know?
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its a 2nd update? cause i have never got it. im still on 2.2.1. does urs says 2.2.2 or something?
but since i just traded in my white mytouch 4g and got the black one, now im waiting for the 2.2.1 update again lol. but does anyone have problems with gps locking on to where ur at? it takes about 5 mins at times to find me at my house.
Guys, I've read it about 50 times in the past 24 hrs - MAYBE HTC will re-consider their bootloader locking policy. My question is very simple - HOW WILL IT AFFECT PHONES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED???? Will we get S-OFF too? How?
i don't think it will affect desire and incredible s, they are too old now and the main buying hype is already in the past
dunno if htc cares so much about them to unlock
Blezz said:
i don't think it will affect desire and incredible s, they are too old now and the main buying hype is already in the past
dunno if htc cares so much about them to unlock
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You're **** kidding me... the phone (Desire S) was launched 2 months ago and is already old????
well WHEN will they unlock the bootloader? Evo 3D coming, Sensation here.. they got enough new things on the market in that time they won't care about the DS anymore
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well WHEN will they unlock the bootloader? Evo 3D coming, Sensation here.. they got enough new things on the market in that time they won't care about the DS anymore
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You lack enthusiasm...obviously you don't own a DesireS.
We'll going to make sure that HTC will going to attend to our needs. So much so, it will going to be in their faces.
yea i don't got a desire s, just got a DS lying in front of me and was the first who found the way with misc_version to downgrade if u read my posts
or maybe it's a stealth & shrinked incredible s / desire hd, who knows?
i hope HTC will not lie to us (Desire S & Incre S owner)
and they will release OTA update that can unlocking Bootloader
just like SE
poor my Saga
there's so many reason to root
why lie geek_seeds? they never said they will unlock it
this guy only posted 100 times that thay MAYBE will REVIEW their bootloader policy... that means nothing and only makes wrong hope
Could be,
But if we all call the helpdesk maybe then they will lisen`t.
"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
that's it!, bang!
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"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
that's it!, bang!
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where's the link for this statement.. can you share it?
i read it too,from htc facebook
http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
Does that mean the existing phones will get a OTA update for unlock?
Let's hope so.
holysniper said:
http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
Does that mean the existing phones will get a OTA update for unlock?
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HELL YES .. or il be soooo goddamn mad at them.
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great. i thought they won't do a thing
Even if they do release an ota with an unlock, those of us with carrier branded phones may never see it.
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Does this mean that if ur desire s is S-ON which mine is, it will also be unlocked to S-OFF?
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Does this mean that if ur desire s is S-ON which mine is, it will also be unlocked to S-OFF?
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Yes, but they have not been clear on this whether they will unlock the phones already on market. Future ones for sure..
P.S. I am a Desire S owner and would love it to be unlocked.
Yup, he says "on our devices"
HTC confirms that the Sensation will receive an update to unlock the bootloader in August. Check out their twitter or facebook pages for more info.
http://m.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084?_rdr
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Awesome, pretty fast too Though course I would prefer faster. I also wonder if the T Mo unlock will be on August because if just says that it will be "later" after the global version!
Hmmmmm, just don't F it all up now HTC
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kurtis.austin2 said:
HTC confirms that the Sensation will receive an update to unlock the bootloader in August. Check out their twitter or facebook pages for more info.
http://m.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084?_rdr
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I'll check back in October...
Sounds good to me! HTC now could be held accountable with a time frame, none of this future update open time frame BS
In August..That will be nice..So the confirmed date has been released..We can get our best sensation after htc unlock it!
not holding my breath, especially for TMO units (friggin carriers >:/)...
teamw1n is still my definitive source for full root and S-OFF, i hope this news wont slow/cancel fre3dom dev
what about desire hd
Will carrier firmware mean that I can't get the upgrade to unlocked bootloader firmware or will I be able to force an update via some application on the PC?
Good to see they kept their promise. Now if the Htc Sensation gets Cyanogenmod then I may just buy one but at the moment the dirty old o2x may be my new phone this year.
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great news !!!!!
Nice im just glad mine is unbranded and i dont have to wait for carriers as well.
htc did the right thing by providing a unlocked bootloader.
this should be the way to go,supporting the dev community so that they can adopt good ideas into their products.
i cannot say the same for dell though...
We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments.
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Hmm... I wonder when they wrote this, do they also imply that they might unlock bootloaders for phones such as Desire?
Bootloader Unlock for HTC Desire HD
evanbigfan said:
what about desire hd
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Apparently this is also coming soon:
androidforums [dot] com/desire-hd-all-things-root/371044-htc-response-unlock-bootloader-desire-hd.html
Funny that Verizon doesn't have a phone on that list. I wonder whos fault is.
Key phrases in this memo:
'SUPPORT bootloader unlocking'
'BEGIN'
'followed by..........'
'EXPECT'
'EARLY SEPTEMBER'
'SOFTWARE UPDATES'.
This announcement has obviuosly been SCRUBBED by HTC legal. They just created a ****ton of loopholes for themselves, and gave themselves a LOT more time. We need to realize that the way they worded this sets it up to where we'll have to accept OTAs BEFORE the whole 'unlocking capability' is updated.
Not thrilled.
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This is fantastic news. Got an unbranded S4G last week (first Android phone) after waiting 6 weeks to upgrade and now I can look forward to learning about kernals and the rest (i hope lol). Not sure i can do that seeing as I'm merely a noob, but i'll give it a try Cheers HTC and, more importantly, XDA-Devs!!
mazook98 said:
Key phrases in this memo:
'SUPPORT bootloader unlocking'
'BEGIN'
'followed by..........'
'EXPECT'
'EARLY SEPTEMBER'
'SOFTWARE UPDATES'.
This announcement has obviuosly been SCRUBBED by HTC legal. They just created a ****ton of loopholes for themselves, and gave themselves a LOT more time. We need to realize that the way they worded this sets it up to where we'll have to accept OTAs BEFORE the whole 'unlocking capability' is updated.
Not thrilled.
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I totally agree with the quoted post above. Their statement is pure Legalese. To me this just sets up the scenario where a portion of the globe is given first the ability to unlock the boatloader and then sometime later the ability to use the capability to unlock the boatloader. No real precise time frames for either one. HTC states that The US Senation 4g is to follow with no real time frame and then sometime perhaps in latter part of Sept the capability to use the unlock boatloader update. They also did not mention which year, I am betting on Dec 12 of 2011.
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ScooterG said:
I'll check back in October...
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I am seeing December 2011 for just having the ability to unlock and feb of 2012 to actually be have the capability to unlock the boatloader.
If you believe they will unlock it next month your smoking crack, i gaurentee they won't talk is cheap. I hope they prove me wrong but i doubt it.
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http://htcdev.com/ this says it all
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It'd be interesting to see if or how this is useful for our developers.
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"The Bootloader Unlock web tool is coming soon. Check back often for official updates."
Um, yeah, they did...something... :-| :-/
Hitting F5 until something materializes.
I would rather have an unofficial bootloader unlock than one that htc can say voids my warranty...
I hope the devs figure out another way to unlock future phones besides that method or I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. That will void your warranty, and so far I've had 4 defective HTC phones out of 4 so I wouldn't take the chance and give up my warranty.
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I would rather have an unofficial bootloader unlock than one that htc can say voids my warranty...
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my thoughts exactly, which is what im sure will come of this though, sacrifice 1 or 2 to figure it out for the rest!
Evo 3D has perma-temp root. They're starting to figure it out.
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BoulderGeek said:
"The Bootloader Unlock web tool is coming soon. Check back often for official updates."
Um, yeah, they did...something... :-| :-/
Hitting F5 until something materializes.
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They released the OpenSense SDK today...
They also released the source code for the kernels on all HTC phones. Don't know if that was done before or not but it seems like that should be useful.
eraursls1984 said:
I hope the devs figure out another way to unlock future phones besides that method or I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. That will void your warranty, and so far I've had 4 defective HTC phones out of 4 so I wouldn't take the chance and give up my warranty.
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I'm on my 3rd... haven't had a problem with either of the 3.
Sounds like user error to me.
EmmVeePee said:
I'm on my 3rd... haven't had a problem with either of the 3.
Sounds like user error to me.
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My problems must have been user error, the power button was sticking and it was recessed into the phone, another one had a messed up audio jack, the next had the same issue and this one has the audio jack issue as well just not as bad and this new one also has random reboots even on the new OTA GB radio, the last three only had reboots on froyo radios.
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Evo 3D has perma-temp root. They're starting to figure it out.
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The Evo3D has s-off via AlphaRev and Unrevoked's Revolutionary tool....
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Milimbar said:
They also released the source code for the kernels on all HTC phones. Don't know if that was done before or not but it seems like that should be useful.
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They always release the source to the kernel, just not always right away. It was posted before on http://developer.htc.com
They'll unlock the bootloader to the evo 3d and sensation but not the tbolt. Their unlocking tool will require you to provide them with your device information to void your warranty. Only good I see is developers might be able to use the tool to unlock other devices like the tbolt and future devices without having to provide htc with any of your phones information.
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mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking
queva1 said:
mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking
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Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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On top of that from what I have been reading it is somewhat limiting when compared to s-off. No hboot, radio, or splash1 flashing. Last I heard kernels had to be fastbooted on. There is probably more I don't know about. Voids your warranty and you can't even switch around to find what radio works best for you. Unlocked my a$$!!
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yareally said:
Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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How come when you go to htcdev.com no verizon phones are listed for unlocking bootloader including the thunderbolt? I wouldn't use the site anyways but trust me when I say no verizon phone will appear on that site, carriers own manufacturers and verizon hates unlocked/rooted/modified phones on their network!
Also thanks for the troll comment in flattered!
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queva1 said:
mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking
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I've been saying that since day one when HTC announced these "plans". I think Verizon has enough "pull" with HTC to make sure none of 'their' phones will be supported.
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Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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Glad to see you can read.... From HTC's website for this, they clearly state
You asked for it, we delivered. Use this tool to install custom firmware on selected HTC Android devices.
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I bolded and italicized the important parts since you missed them the first time.
Further, from their FAQ on this subject:
Will all HTC devices be unlocked?
HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.
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This is a prewarning for anyone still nieve enough to accept an ota before its been torn down and examined. The One X, brother device(EVO 4g LTE) recently received an ota that SIGNIFICANTLY improved security on the device. Changes included a new hboot(as seen in the new hox ruu leaked) along with other patches, any EVO that was not previously s OFF can no longer use the s OFF exploit, lazypanda. On top of that, EVO and hox were both able to flash radios and kernals with the unlocked bootloader. The EVO, s on with unlocked bootloader can NO LONGER flash radios or kernals. Recoveries only. I am posting this to make the community aware that this update WILL most likely implement the same security changes that were put on EVO LTE owners.
If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals, and radios
Lose ability to use a s OFF exploit if it becomes available on the current(non updated) hboot.
Do thank the person bringing the ruu leak to xda for developers to examine and warning us of the soon to come ota. If it weren't for him, it would just show on our devices and a good percentage would accept, clogging our forums with help me threads. Check out the ruu leak thread to thank.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29049875
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
...........My EVO Ways..........
(You can S-Off for all I care)
Needs a sticky!
Good job bro!
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals,
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I'm assuming you mean just through recovery. I'm sure you will still be able to flash the boot image(kernel) through fastboot. Just wanted to clarify this and not make everyone think you wouldn't be able to flash kernels at all.
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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lemme guess.. those exchanges are why phones are getting more expensive too right?
Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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ChongoDroid said:
Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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Not talking about devs, who contribute something to the overall environment (I would never refer to devs as "clowns"). I'm talking about the people who start fooling around with their phones without knowing what they're doing, brick them, then post things like "Will AT&T know what I did if I return this for a warranty replacement?"
And, whether the carriers can afford it (they can) isn't the point. It's that these folks motivate the carriers to make their phones ever more locked down in order to avoid having to deal with these bogus exchanges.
Wait, you got that wrong, reason we are getting more bricked phones is because the security on this device is NEW. Can't figure it out if you don't try, trying consists of trial and error. Well you know the sweetest of the story....
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For every guy that takes a risk and flashes something that might achieve s off, 10 people have returned their phone because the email doesn't work, or the screen is too yellow, or its too quiet.. or loud. Do you see what I'm sayin?
Normal people don't root.. they just complain. So HTC locking down the phone more isn't preventative measures for tech support or return rates... Its just HTC being sloppy. Next it'll be that source is being delayed because they don't want people to brick their phones lol
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Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards
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Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards
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Yeah, it's definitely a concern to me. I wish they would understand and just make it easy to do. The unlock site.could have an optional S-off to go with it. I would think it would be pretty easy for these guys to design a device to be very dev friendly, and also easy to recover if/when things go bad.
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xiambax said:
No problems guys. I got my S3 today so I haven't been testing the new RUU very much as I installed it sometime last night.
I'm torn on which phone I want to keep. Does someone really need two 700 Dollar phones?
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Yup I do. Please mail the one you won't use to me ^_^
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Post in the marketplace.
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As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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serious? ive seen xls go for 350 on the marketplace.
PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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Lol yeah, brand new
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Jeez phones nowadays cost so dang much. Moor than my laptop or the new iPad lol
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