Related
just hav a look at the latest HTC upcoming!
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=790
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/umpc/htc-omni-revealed-umpc+like-but-runs-windows-mobile-6-275023.php
If this CPU is better than current one on Qtek9000?
actually it looks like it's gonna be 400mhz, against 520Mhz of the uni.. apart from this, it's the ideal heir to it. looks very fascinating, specially the external display which is showing all the important informations without having to open the lid
cyberpunk627 said:
actually it looks like it's gonna be 400mhz, against 520Mhz of the uni.. apart from this, it's the ideal heir to it. looks very fascinating, specially the external display which is showing all the important informations without having to open the lid
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Clock speed is not a great indicator of Actual Processing Power
Consider:
A similarly clocked Intel Celeron vs Pentium vs Core Duo
It appears a lot of manufacturers are switching to the Qualcomm's which, from my research, have similar power to our XScales, but the graphics chips they are packaged with are more powerful.
(Also, I believe it is the same chipset as the HTC Kaiser)
i wonder if it will be possible to install the omni's rom on an universal...
kalimah said:
i wonder if it will be possible to install the omni's rom on an universal...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wonder if the Omni's ROM has even been developed....
Seriously though two problems:
The Omni is still a 'tentative' device (ie no actual model number given) so it is unlikely that any work would have been done with it
The Omni has _COMPLETELY_ different hardware - a different processor, graphics chip, wireless chip, phone chip, etc
The Omni ROM is likely to be based on the one for the HTC Kaiser - since their hardware is almost identical
TehPenguin said:
Clock speed is not a great indicator of Actual Processing Power
Consider:
A similarly clocked Intel Celeron vs Pentium vs Core Duo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Disagree .. because samsung with its processor proved that miracles in terms of productivity in the arm are impossible ... in any case, omni step backward in productivity
mo3ulla said:
Disagree .. because samsung with its processor proved that miracles in terms of productivity in the arm are impossible ... in any case, omni step backward in productivity
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats where you are false
ARM stands for Advanced Risc Machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture)
If you look in the "Advanced Details" for the Omni provided in PDA DB (http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=790&view=1) You will notice that it has a ARM processor
So, the Intel XScale is an ARM
And the Qualcomm MSM 7200 is an ARM
The reason they are using the Qualcomm is that the chipset it comes with supports HSDPA\HSUPA, GPS, Wireless G, etc - which the XScale does not
For more info, PDA DB has some basic details:
Qualcomm: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200
XScale: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a272
Thread moved to appropriate forum.
Nice, but 81 mm is too wide.
Why dont they stick with 60+ mm???
130 mm height is no problem, but 81 mm width is to big for pocketable device.
16 mm depth is wonderful.
I've been thinking about this for a while but in my opinion it is becoming more likely.
Sony Ericsson has been doing pretty poorly recently but much like Motorolla out comes their Xperia X10, running Android which is doing Fantastically well and may put the company on the road to an up.
Google TV announced today and Sony is one of the initial partners and the only partner to directly integrate it into a TV.
Rumours of a "PSP Phone" have been going around for months now.
Google and Sony seem to be getting close, and I really think that this "PSP Phone" may be the PSP2 running on Android.
Anyone else see what I'm getting at?
Android plus Tegra 2 would be my guess. Don't get why they haven't done so already considering the huge popularity of mobile games in Japan. A psp phone would be an instant must-buy for me(if it had Froyo, a decent GPU and a 4 inch amoled screen).
Hopefully they will finally realise that they need a killer device to slow Apples domination. PSP2 needs to be no bigger than the size of the Go, add dual analogues, multi-touch, run on android, have more power (Tegra would be ideal), have a proper camera (i.e. optical zoom and flash), and BE A PHONE. As soon as some of their studios started producing Apps that required the power and controls offered by the PSP2 super phone then everyone would want one.
What is really surprising is how long it is taking Sony to combine their skills and bring something world beating to market. They are the only company with strong products in every area you would want from a ultimate pocket system. Phones, Gaming, Audio, PCs, Screens, Cameras, Software, even batteries, Sony are near the forefront.
I came across this thread while searching on google.
According to this Asahi news article released 5/29 they also speculate or have insider information that there are Walkman and PlayStation phones coming that will use Android. At least thats what I get out of the article.
The Wall Street Journal also reported back in March that Sony has been working on "a smart phone capable of downloading and playing videogames."
Also there have been some leaks from a UK developer who said it will use a 4-core Cell processor and that is "f*cking powerful." It will also have 2 cameras and a touch screen but will retain the traditional PlayStation buttons.
Sounds quite intriguing!
Edit: As a new user I guess I'm not allowed to hyperlink to the sources. I put them below minus the http part for your cut and paste pleasure.
asahi.com/business/update/0529/TKY201005280501.html
online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703502804575101013088128250.html
vg247.com/2010/05/17/psp2-touch-screen-two-cameras-games-for-end-2010-beginning-2011/
I'm against the idea of android on psp, it's just gay
it's a game system, so just let it be that way, upgrade the hardware, improve the control, throw in a sim card for internet connection, and leave it. No need for it to be a phone. Otherwise, it would fall into the life cycle of phones, which need to be updated twice a year.
vernicex said:
I'm against the idea of android on psp, it's just gay
it's a game system, so just let it be that way, upgrade the hardware, improve the control, throw in a sim card for internet connection, and leave it. No need for it to be a phone. Otherwise, it would fall into the life cycle of phones, which need to be updated twice a year.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think an andriod device with a psp system is just suberb.
I think its a great idea.
But I seriously doubt any console manufacturer releasing hardware that runs open source software, seriously, think about it, the competition would be sh!thing kittens at getting their rivals source code and the pirates would think it was a gift from god.
PSP2 some hardware specs released
http://gizmodo.com/5744521/
- Dimensions: 17X7.4X2.3 cm
- 5" OLED multi-touch screen (12.7 cm)
- Multi-touch trackpad
- Resolution: 960 x 544
- Quad core ARM Cortex A-9
- PowerVR SGX 543 MP4+
- 512MB LPDDR2 RAM (1GB devkits)
- 16GB flash + SD slot
- Wifi, 3G, bluetooth
- Acelerometers, GPS, gyroscope, front and back camera.
Quad-core ARM Cortex A9 processor and quad-core PowerVR SGX534MP4+ GPU.
Now the Tegra 2 is a Arm Cortex A9 processor, but I didn't know there was a quad core version yet. The Tegra 3 is going to have a quad core per the data sheet and presentation from Nvidia.
It actually looks really good.
Touch screen, and Touch panel on the back mimicking the screen on the front.
I can dig that, I don't have to smudge the screen all the time. And it will feel natural for the most part since you'll be holding it with two hands anyway.
So Arm processor, Touch Screen and touch panel, 3g, wifi, bluetooth, accelerometers, GPS, gyroscope, front and back camera and internal flash storage and, a SD card slot.
This is just itching for a port of android.
It will have video out as well like the previous 2 models. It could support a keyboard and mouse, Are you seeing the picture here?
"Quad-core ARM Cortex A9 processor and quad-core PowerVR SGX534MP4+ GPU."
That's impressive, I would like to seem some review of the hardware/software before I would purchase it though.
QUAD core?? Wow. That thing is going to be a beast!
HaSefer said:
QUAD core?? Wow. That thing is going to be a beast!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I'm saying.
I'm jonesing for a Tegra2 or now Tegra3 device.
I'm really curious about performance more than battery life.
I really want to have something that rocks the hell out of anything I throw at it.
Battery life doesn't really concern me, there are always 3rd party battery accessories/extenders. Either that or I'm always near a USB port or Power plug.
I refuse to have more cores on my handheld than on my PC.
Also battery life should be about the same as the PSP.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
The Official Sony PSP2 which is different from the PSP phone.
Imperticus said:
The Official Sony PSP2 which is different from the PSP phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, one is made by Sony (NGP) and the other is made by Sony Ericsson (Xperia Play).
How easy/difficult will it be to get Android running on this beast? I don't know anything about chip architecture.
Quad-core ?? it seem sound gd ,, but on psp...?
I am thinking it will run android but unfortunatel I have given up on Sony long ago.
BatterseaPS said:
How easy/difficult will it be to get Android running on this beast? I don't know anything about chip architecture.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably as hard as it can get. I seriously doubt any of the drivers will be easily available.
brummiesteven said:
I've been thinking about this for a while but in my opinion it is becoming more likely.
Sony Ericsson has been doing pretty poorly recently but much like Motorolla out comes their Xperia X10, running Android which is doing Fantastically well and may put the company on the road to an up.
Google TV announced today and Sony is one of the initial partners and the only partner to directly integrate it into a TV.
Rumours of a "PSP Phone" have been going around for months now.
Google and Sony seem to be getting close, and I really think that this "PSP Phone" may be the PSP2 running on Android.
Anyone else see what I'm getting at?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im pretty certain they will follow apples path; both a psp2 and a psp phonee
BatterseaPS said:
How easy/difficult will it be to get Android running on this beast? I don't know anything about chip architecture.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Forget about chip architecture. Sony sued GeoHot for jailbreaking the PS3 and the one of the things you can do was run Linux on it. I am sure that the case will be the same if someone were to jailbreak the PSP2.
here it is folks...this is what i read...
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidi...ampaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)
yeah its cool and good for all the innovations but battery life? if decent battery life is to be had i think the optimization and battery size are going to be some kind of amazing lol
CTR01 said:
here it is folks...this is what i read...
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidi...ampaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)
yeah its cool and good for all the innovations but battery life? if decent battery life is to be had i think the optimization and battery size are going to be some kind of amazing lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They said 12 hours of HD video.
If it's going by their average designs, then it's not actual cores that you would see in a cpu. Most likely it's some type of shader core that you see in their GPU setups. More or less, a shader cluster from fermi.
muyoso said:
They said 12 hours of HD video.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
12 hours huh thats freaking awesome lol!
vbetts said:
If it's going by their average designs, then it's not actual cores that you would see in a cpu. Most likely it's some type of shader core that you see in their GPU setups. More or less, a shader cluster from fermi.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hmm well that does sound interesting indeed! we will see : )
Just to add, not saying it will be a shader cluster from fermi, just an example of what it could be. Either way, it's looking pretty great. ARM has come a long way, and I bet soon we'll see competition to x86-64 platforms.
vbetts said:
Just to add, not saying it will be a shader cluster from fermi, just an example of what it could be. Either way, it's looking pretty great. ARM has come a long way, and I bet soon we'll see competition to x86-64 platforms.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah that would be pretty cool...could have like some more in depth or advanced phone to computer interaction or something lol
small related update...
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/16/nvidia-quad-core-tablets-in-august-phones-at-christmas/
benchmarks and possible release dates
lol?? fake?
Rumors yes but fake eh I say plausible
HTC HD2 w/ 2.3 : )
inubero said:
lol?? fake?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Those are benchmarks straight from Nvidia. That link even gives Nvidia as its source.
http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/02/teg...-chip-worlds-first-quadcore-mobile-processor/
In all fairness to the benchmark, a T7200 (65nm) is a 5yo chip. So what you essentially have here are TWO extra cores build probably on a much smaller 30nm chip to edge out a 5yo dual-core desktop CPU.
So for a mobile chip to beat out something like a Q6600 (2.4ghz quad-core, 45nm), it would need 8 cores (or octa-core) and pack tightly in a 20nm or so chip to churn out an equivalent number. I don't think that's going to be available for another 5-7yrs or so.
lude219 said:
In all fairness to the benchmark, a T7200 (65nm) is a 5yo chip. So what you essentially have here are TWO extra cores build probably on a much smaller 30nm chip to edge out a 5yo dual-core desktop CPU.
So for a mobile chip to beat out something like a Q6600 (2.4ghz quad-core, 45nm), it would need 8 cores (or octa-core) and pack tightly in a 20nm or so chip to churn out an equivalent number. I don't think that's going to be available for another 5-7yrs or so.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Q6600 is 65nm
Not sure what the dye size is of the cores inside of Tegra, but definitely smaller and also uses a hell of a lot less power. If it were an x86 chip comparing to an x86 chip, then comparing it to a 5 year old cpu would be a very bad comparison. But it's ARM, and ARM has come a long way in a quick time. Nvidia is great at pushing limits too, Fermi may have used a ton load of power and put out heat, but it performs great, and a lot of the fermi based cards are smaller than the counter HD5 and HD6. Nvidia Ion is also easily cooled, and doesn't use a lot of power or put out a lot of heat.
How much horse power does a mobile device really need? I voted for a combination of three, but I would be inclined to lean towards battery life.
A2Aegis said:
How much horse power does a mobile device really need? I voted for a combination of three, but I would be inclined to lean towards battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im sure you know but after a certain point people buy things just cuz they can and to brag about it lol
...although if you have non geeky/techy friends then it really means nothing to them so yeah i see it as at some point its just no use
...unless you get like a 3d hologram/projector thing going on...then we can talk 4 cores or more.
vbetts said:
Q6600 is 65nm
Not sure what the dye size is of the cores inside of Tegra, but definitely smaller and also uses a hell of a lot less power. If it were an x86 chip comparing to an x86 chip, then comparing it to a 5 year old cpu would be a very bad comparison. But it's ARM, and ARM has come a long way in a quick time. Nvidia is great at pushing limits too, Fermi may have used a ton load of power and put out heat, but it performs great, and a lot of the fermi based cards are smaller than the counter HD5 and HD6. Nvidia Ion is also easily cooled, and doesn't use a lot of power or put out a lot of heat.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for the correction! You'd think I would remember my own's CPU dye, right?
My previous post doesn't have any ill-intention at all. There are a lot of people who think this will replace future desktops (as noted in the recent article on the sales of smartphones/tablets beat out home office computers), so my somewhat horrible analogy was to paint a picture between these two different architectures and where they're at. I can almost remember back in the day when people laughed at the idea of Nvidia branching out to making energy-efficient mobile processors. They wont be laughing now
lude219 said:
Thank you for the correction! You'd think I would remember my own's CPU dye, right?
My previous post doesn't have any ill-intention at all. There are a lot of people who think this will replace future desktops (as noted in the recent article on the sales of smartphones/tablets beat out home office computers), so my somewhat horrible analogy was to paint a picture between these two different architectures and where they're at. I can almost remember back in the day when people laughed at the idea of Nvidia branching out to making energy-efficient mobile processors. They wont be laughing now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if ARM replaced x86-64 in at least mobile solutions like laptops. Windows has ARM support coming soon. But the real question here is, can companies like Nvidia or whoever makes the SoC make the chip cheap enough for mass production and retail? AMD sells quad core cpus for less than $100, and Intel sells cpus with a gpu onboard the CPU chip for under $150.
hmm thats true and amd is coming out with their cpu/gpu integrated stuff soon-ish and since they usually sell cheaper than intel...at that price point it would be kinda hard to beat...least for a little while i think.
I've been doing quite a bit of research on GPU's and CPU's in phone's/tablets lately. And I have a few unanswered questions that I can't seem to find an answer for.
1: What's the best chipset available for mobile phones and tablets right now? This link cleared quite a bit up for me, it does a fairly indepth comparison for both GPU and CPU performance between the Qualcomm S4, Tegra 3, OMAP 4470, and the Exynos 4212. And I dont want the 'Well this is better because it has more jiggahertz". Shut up, that's not what I need. I need something more indepth. If studies on individual GPU comparison can be provided, please drop a link. I'd like to know these things very well.
2: What individual GPU is currently the best? I realize the Ipad3 came out with with a graphics chip that's supposedly superior to the Xbox/PS3's. However I take anything Apple says with a grain of salt, they're notorious for shooting flaming BS out of their rear. However based on the little bit of searching I've done, the Adreno GPU's seem to be ahead of their time. I previously thought the Mali 400 GPU in the Exynos chipset was one of the best, but apparently it's outdated. Again, links to tests/studies/comparisons would be appreciated.
3: What's the deal with the ARM chips? Are the A5's, A6's, A11's, (and whatever other A chips out there are), some standard CPU developed by ARM and licensed out to all manufacturers to use in their chipsets?
4: What alternatives are there to the ARM CPU's? Most chipsets I research seem to be using a Cortex A9 chip.
5: What's the difference between the A5, A6, A9, etc. From what I've seen the higher numbers are the newer models, but I feel like that's a very shallow definition. If that is true, why does the newest iPad only use an A5x chip for it's quad core rather than an A9 or something of the sort.
6: Is the chipset in the iPad really the fastest out there? Personally, I can't really stand apple products; let alone the rabid fanboys and the obnoxious advertisements they put out. I can recognize that they very often gloat about their products and overexaggerate; like how they said the dual core in the iPhone 4s is the fastest out there, yet from what I've read the A5 is the worst performing dual core out there. Is the GPU in the tablet really superior to the Xbox? And is the processor really able to outdo the Tegra 3?
If you're able to answer any one of these, even exclusively, that would be appreciated. I just like knowledge
MultiLockOn said:
I've been doing quite a bit of research on GPU's and CPU's in phone's/tablets lately. And I have a few unanswered questions that I can't seem to find an answer for.
1: What's the best chipset available for mobile phones and tablets right now? This link cleared quite a bit up for me, it does a fairly indepth comparison for both GPU and CPU performance between the Qualcomm S4, Tegra 3, OMAP 4470, and the Exynos 4212. And I dont want the 'Well this is better because it has more jiggahertz". Shut up, that's not what I need. I need something more indepth. If studies on individual GPU comparison can be provided, please drop a link. I'd like to know these things very well.
2: What individual GPU is currently the best? I realize the Ipad3 came out with with a graphics chip that's supposedly superior to the Xbox/PS3's. However I take anything Apple says with a grain of salt, they're notorious for shooting flaming BS out of their rear. However based on the little bit of searching I've done, the Adreno GPU's seem to be ahead of their time. I previously thought the Mali 400 GPU in the Exynos chipset was one of the best, but apparently it's outdated. Again, links to tests/studies/comparisons would be appreciated.
3: What's the deal with the ARM chips? Are the A5's, A6's, A11's, (and whatever other A chips out there are), some standard CPU developed by ARM and licensed out to all manufacturers to use in their chipsets?
4: What alternatives are there to the ARM CPU's? Most chipsets I research seem to be using a Cortex A9 chip.
5: What's the difference between the A5, A6, A9, etc. From what I've seen the higher numbers are the newer models, but I feel like that's a very shallow definition. If that is true, why does the newest iPad only use an A5x chip for it's quad core rather than an A9 or something of the sort.
6: Is the chipset in the iPad really the fastest out there? Personally, I can't really stand apple products; let alone the rabid fanboys and the obnoxious advertisements they put out. I can recognize that they very often gloat about their products and overexaggerate; like how they said the dual core in the iPhone 4s is the fastest out there, yet from what I've read the A5 is the worst performing dual core out there. Is the GPU in the tablet really superior to the Xbox? And is the processor really able to outdo the Tegra 3?
If you're able to answer any one of these, even exclusively, that would be appreciated. I just like knowledge
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. Dunno right now, it's always changing. I hear the new Qualcomm processors with the new Andreno gpu are supposed to be the ****, but it's not out yet so who knows. The iPad 3 currently has not had any real world tests done yet, we need to wait for release. It is basically the same A5 chip as the iPad 2 but with the PSVita's gpu thrown in.
2. *sigh* The iPad 3 is not more powerful than an Xbox 360. It is better in I believe one aspect (more memory), but this has very little impact on performance/graphics quality. This is Apple shooting wads of **** out it's arse, or whoever made the claim. It's actually using the same GPU found in the PSVita, which we all know is not as powerful as a PS3/Xbox360. However, the PSVita is also using a quad core cpu, whereas the iPad 3 is using the same dual core A5 as the iPad 2, so technically the PSVita is superior. You also have to consider how many more pixels the gpu has to power on the iPad 3's display. While high res is nice, it takes more power to render it.
3. ARM creates a base chip for companies to slap their own GPU's and name on. The naming structure is pretty self explanatory.
4. All CPU's currently in tablets/cellphones are a variant of the ARM. A Cortex A9 is still an ARM chip. This will soon change when Intel releases their tablet/phone chips.
5. You're right, higher numbers do mean newer modeling. I don't know all the exacts, but with the newer ARM series you get higher and/or more efficient clocks, generally some battery savings, and in some series support for more cores. Apple's labeling of their chips has nothing to do with ARM's, it's their own naming scheme. The A5x is just what Apple calls their version of the ARM processor.
6. I believe atm the iPad 3 has the fastest chipset in a tablet..for now. It won't take long for it to be overtaken by other companies, there's so much in the works right now.
speedyink said:
1. Dunno right now, it's always changing. I hear the new Qualcomm processors with the new Andreno gpu are supposed to be the ****, but it's not out yet so who knows. The iPad 3 currently has not had any real world tests done yet, we need to wait for release. It is basically the same A5 chip as the iPad 2 but with the PSVita's gpu thrown in.
2. *sigh* The iPad 3 gpu is not more powerful than an Xbox 360. It is better in I believe one aspect (more memory), but this has very little impact on performance/graphics quality. This is Apple shooting wads of **** out it's arse, or whoever made the claim. It's actually using the same GPU found in the PSVita, which we all know is not as powerful as a PS3/Xbox360. However, the PSVita is also using a quad core cpu, whereas the iPad 3 is using the same dual core A5 as the iPad 2, so technically the PSVita is superior.
3. ARM creates a base chip for companies to slap their own GPU's and name on. The naming structure is pretty self explanatory.
4. All CPU's currently in tablets/cellphones are a variant of the ARM. A Cortex A9 is still an ARM chip. This will soon change when Intel releases their tablet/phone chips.
5. You're right, higher numbers do mean newer modeling. I don't know all the exacts, but with the newer ARM series you get higher and/or more efficient clocks, generally some battery savings, and in some series support for more cores. Apple's labeling of their chips has nothing to do with ARM's, it's their own naming scheme. The A5x is just what Apple calls their version of the ARM processor.
6. I believe atm the iPad 3 has the fastest chipset in a tablet..for now. It won't take long for it to be overtaken by other companies, there's so much in the works right now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the reply. It seems weird to me that Apple would rename a CPU to something as similar to one that would already exist, A5x as to A5.
MultiLockOn said:
Thanks for the reply. It seems weird to me that Apple would rename a CPU to something as similar to one that would already exist, A5x as to A5.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because Apple is the type of company to step on someones feet like that, and then sue them later on for copyright infringement. Damn the confusion, Apple starts with A, so will their processors.
speedyink said:
Because Apple is the type of company to step on someones feet like that, and then sue them later on for copyright infringement. Damn the confusion, Apple starts with A, so will their processors.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah, apple just simply buy a technology and re-label them, make patent and troll others. so for comparison, apple doesn't count. Also these handheld chipset can't be compared with consoles, consoles have more proccessing power like more RAM bandwidth and polygons.
Anyway.. based on my experience, mali400 exynos has a butterly smooth performance for both UI and 3D graphics. I've tried both Gingerbread GNote and my SGS2.
on the other hand, Google did a great job with TI OMAP for it's Galaxy Nexus, pure HW accelerated 4.0.3.. with very little glitch, but I believe it's software issue.
IMO if you wanna buy a fast and smooth device, follow the current Nexus spec (at least similar) like GNexus, Motorola RAZR, etc. I've seen Tegra 3 4+1 Transformer Prime but never hands-on it. as far as i seen, UI and 3D performance are stunning. 1 extra core advantage is for low power mode when doing light proccessing and standby mode. Today hardwares are fast enough, drivers and OS optimisation are very important thing if you want everything run smoothly.
cmiiw, sorry for bad english
lesp4ul said:
yeah, apple just simply buy a technology and re-label them, make patent and troll others. so for comparison, apple doesn't count. Also these handheld chipset can't be compared with consoles, consoles have more proccessing power like more RAM bandwidth and polygons.
Anyway.. based on my experience, mali400 exynos has a butterly smooth performance for both UI and 3D graphics. I've tried both Gingerbread GNote and my SGS2.
on the other hand, Google did a great job with TI OMAP for it's Galaxy Nexus, pure HW accelerated 4.0.3.. with very little glitch, but I believe it's software issue.
IMO if you wanna buy a fast and smooth device, follow the current Nexus spec (at least similar) like GNexus, Motorola RAZR, etc. I've seen Tegra 3 4+1 Transformer Prime but never hands-on it. as far as i seen, UI and 3D performance are stunning. 1 extra core advantage is for low power mode when doing light proccessing and standby mode. Today hardwares are fast enough, drivers and OS optimisation are very important thing if you want everything run smoothly.
cmiiw, sorry for bad english
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I kmow what you mean. Im extremely happy with my galaxy s2, I cant say I ever recall it lagging on me in any way whatsoever. Im not sure what makes the droid razr and galaxy nexus comparable to the s2. From what Ive read Omap processors tend to lag and consume battery, and the mali 400 is better than what either of those phones have. Id say its ICS but the razr still
Runs gingerbread
I was hoping for some more attention in here :/
I agree, omaps are battery hungry beast. Like my previous Optimus Black, man... i only got 12-14 hours with edge (1ghz UV smartass v2, also ****ty LG kernel haha). Same issue as my friend's Galaxy SL. I dunno if newer soc has a better behaviour.
Sent from my Nokia 6510 using PaperPlane™
Is there hope that the OIS will come also for the mini? maybe with a port from the big brother??
Or is this impossible?
I guess the IS is not a software, but Hardware ?
I have many different Lenses for my DSLR Camera and some are with the IS, some are without it. So I'd say its Hardware..
But Im not sure..
Good question, Im interested, too!
I say that OIS is software all the way.
But for such software to run, you need a speedy processor, which the Mini lacks.
Bottom line: it's probably possible if some good devs buy the Mini, so they can port it. But it'll probably not run, or run badly because of the relatively slow CPU.
It's software. Not hardware.
But are you sure, that the mini is too slow??
I mean it's a quadcore with 1,4 (?) GHz. And the One has 1,7 (?).
So if you may overclock the mini it could work??
HandyBesitzer said:
It's software. Not hardware.
But are you sure, that the mini is too slow??
I mean it's a quadcore with 1,4 (?) GHz. And the One has 1,7 (?).
So if you may overclock the mini it could work??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
.............MSM8960 is not a quad-core cpu.
@CNexus, how can you always be everywhere? No wonder you're a RC, you really do show up on every forum, helping people.
Also, Wikipedia says there's gonna be two versions:
The LTE one will have a 8930AB chip.
And the non-LTE one, aka 601e, will have a 8230AB chip.
The same chips, but I'm guessing one has built-in LTE and the other one doesn't...?
Also, Wikipedia also says this about OIS:
"This technology is implemented in the lens itself /.../" but that the image is processed later on. So it's partly hardware, but you do need a CPU capable of that 'processing'.
Also also, there do exist quad-core S400 chips. Maybe that got you confused
EDIT: GSMArena's review of the phone says that the lens itself does not support OIS. So there's that.
Because I see all....
Lol
Anyway, the Mini is MSM8960, I have the dump and everything points to that
There may be quad-core S400 chips, but the specific S400 that the M4 uses is msm8960 which is dual-core.