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What is the point of this?
The idea of this is to convince htc to unlock the bootloaders and disable the NAND protection on their phones
Why should I support this?
Unlocking the bootloader and disabling the NAND protection will allow users to keep their phones up to date using custom roms such as CM7. Take the htc wildfire for example. In december 2010, HTC released a 2.2 update for the wildfire. However, hidden in this update was a new bootloader which could not (and still can not as of the 15th may 2011) be modified. It is unlikely that HTC will release another update for this phone, meaning that users are going to be stuck on this rom. The reason? So HTC can sell new phones. However what this is doing is putting users off buying HTC's devices since rival companies have announced that the users can easily unlock the bootloaders on their devices.
To support the campaign please sign the petition at http://goo.gl/uIeqv and you can like us on facebook at http://goo.gl/e1CqN and you can see updates on my blog at http://goo.gl/KdpFr
We got featured on androidspin http://goo.gl/DryCd and eurodroid http://goo.gl/4SNf8
I've just sign it every bit help the cause.
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we need way more attention to this topic...after 1.5 years with the motorola milestone I was waiting for a awesome htc device...although the sensation is inferior to the samsung galaxy s2, I would go for it..I would totally turn a blind eye on the fact that it has less ram, ridiculouse internal storage and its thickness..my only true concern was the bootloader..after the milestone I would never ever go for a device with a signed bootloader again..I would totally pass on guarantee just to have an open bootloader..
If I may interject. The point of a locked bootloader is not to sell more devices, it is to protect the intellectual property contained on said locked device from being dumped, IE full versions of otherwise payed programs that the OEM includes in their ROM(Swype etc.). If users are able to simply dump an image that contains these programs, they can then redistribute them as they see fit. Do not misread me, I am for unlocked bootloaders 100% and have used HTC devices for almost 5 years now. I just wanted to add my opinion that its not about you buying another device for an update, its about manufactures trying to protect themselves.
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Fair one
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I support!
Here goes my support
+1 support
But the dump still leaks out in the form of a ruu
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If you havent already please share
On another note its great to see that there are 133 new sigs overnight
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brilldoctor said:
If you havent already please share
On another note its great to see that there are 133 new sigs overnight
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I signed and shared the information.
Good
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We got 2k sigs!!!!! And it is now a featured groubal http://www.groubal.com/
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brilldoctor said:
We got 2k sigs!!!!! And it is now a featured groubal http://www.groubal.com/
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That's roughly €1000000/£877000/$1423000 in sold phones(when price in € is 500,which is lower than atleast here in Finland). That kind of money should have some effect?
Signed and shared
just signed.
3000+ nice
So, at what point does this get submitted to HTC??
7k sigs
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Football is on a roll lately releasing Sensation ruu, so far we have 8 ruu already in development section not including Asia ruu that would be 9 updates. It's getting very interesting indeed.
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epsix said:
Football is on a roll lately releasing Sensation ruu, so far we have 8 ruu already in development section not including Asia ruu that would be 9 updates. It's getting very interesting indeed.
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But sadly, none of these currently have an ENG H-BOOT (as far as we know )
We need that.
Sign it here:
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc...-of-htc-devices-the-new-sense-4-0-experience#
(I know I don't own a HTC Sensation, but this also applies to you )
I've signed it We have a device here as capable as the ONE family and therefore to not have an official Sense 4.0 is just a crime....
Just signed !!
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I just signed........
I just signed...
We should better start a Petition to get the ICS Kernel Sources...
Although they are already forced by law to do this.
They are currently violating the law by breaking GPL rules.
Please tweet them (@htcdev) to publish the ICS Kernel Sources, if we get them we can port Sense 4.0 way better & AOSP/AOKP/CM/.... will run smoother and better.
This is more necessary!
EDIT:
Tweets you can retweet (or as an Idea if you want to tweet yourself)
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/181083007657050112
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180666961900998657
https://twitter.com/#!/TripNRaVeR/status/180713156648251392
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180345519695077376
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180234755764260864
https://twitter.com/#!/baadnwz/status/180181237640601601
https://twitter.com/#!/TripNRaVeR/status/180189141370273792
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180025110399426561
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/179878718938943488
https://twitter.com/#!/toastcfh/status/179626174618669056
https://twitter.com/#!/TripNRaVeR/status/174109413966233601
If you don't know this people:
Vorbeth - should be known for OpenSensation
TripNRaVeR - TripNDroid OS, TripNMiui, porting Ville & Endeavour RUU to Sensation
baadnwz - InsertCoin ROMs
EDIT2:
https://twitter.com/#!/azrienoch/status/181506384611905537
Looks like we got the source...
I hear @HTCDev just posted the source code for ICS on the Sensation, Sensation XE, and Raider. Well played, @htc.
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Signed Now
And you all thinks that this is the way, and this crappy petition will bring any results? Buahaha.
Why not ? We don't lose anything but a few seconds. And I think is has worked before .
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SIGNED :0)
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hexen88 said:
And you all thinks that this is the way, and this crappy petition will bring any results? Buahaha.
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And do you know any different????
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fabi280 said:
We should better start a Petition to get the ICS Kernel Sources...
Although they are already forced by law to do this.
They are currently violating the law by breaking GPL rules.
Please tweet them (@htcdev) to publish the ICS Kernel Sources, if we get them we can port Sense 4.0 way better & AOSP/AOKP/CM/.... will run smoother and better.
This is more necessary!
EDIT:
Tweets you can retweet (or as an Idea if you want to tweet yourself)
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/181083007657050112
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180666961900998657
https://twitter.com/#!/TripNRaVeR/status/180713156648251392
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180345519695077376
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180234755764260864
https://twitter.com/#!/baadnwz/status/180181237640601601
https://twitter.com/#!/TripNRaVeR/status/180189141370273792
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180025110399426561
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/179878718938943488
https://twitter.com/#!/toastcfh/status/179626174618669056
https://twitter.com/#!/TripNRaVeR/status/174109413966233601
If you don't know this people:
Vorbeth - should be known for OpenSensation
TripNRaVeR - TripNDroid OS, TripNMiui, porting Ville & Endeavour RUU to Sensation
baadnwz - InsertCoin ROMs
EDIT2:
https://twitter.com/#!/azrienoch/status/181506384611905537
Looks like we got the source...
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Kernel source is now available on htcdev
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Signed & passed onto others
Won't work lol
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signed.
because apart from the new camera features, landscape homescreen/lockscreen and widget adding doesnt need the processing powers of the One series.
fr0zenblood75 said:
Why not ? We don't lose anything but a few seconds. And I think is has worked before .
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Because online petitions of this kind have no legal validity? If you know what I mean.
Grow up...
hexen88 said:
Because online petitions of this kind have no legal validity? If you know what I mean.
Grow up...
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haha. cynic much?
why are some ppl so impatient? just be happy that u r getting ics + sense 3.6 for now. i'm pretty sure we'll get an official sense 4.0 rom sooner or later, but for now HTC is focusing on releasing the ONE series and on delivering ics + sense 3.6 for their older devices.
the Sensation can run sense 4.0 for sure, but there seem to be some features for the new hardware (e.g. dual shutter camera), so some optimizations have to be made for the different hardware to get a stable rom. give them some time. i mean, look at the first ports of sense 4.0 for the desire s for example. u can run them, but several features aren't working flawlessly yet.
so just be patient. HTC also said in the past that several devices won't get sense 3.0 and those devices got 3.0 at the end...
Yea look at the HTC ones specs... Not much different from the amaze, except its uglier! We need a qaudcore device with a nice physical keyboard for T-Mobile! *with beats*
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I also signed it, hope htc will listen to us
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Am I the only one who sees this app? I have unbranded phone why would HTC install this spyware/logger on my phone without my knowledge ? Looks like its time to root afterall
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Am I the only one who sees this app? I have unbranded phone why would HTC install this spyware/logger on my phone without my knowledge ? Looks like its time to root afterall
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No one I have spoke to actually knows what that app does, however there are more loggers on the stock one (HTC feedback and smith.apk are 2 of them) so rooting and flashing a custom ROM is well worth it IMO
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Jonny said:
No one I have spoke to actually knows what that app does, however there are more loggers on the stock one (HTC feedback and smith.apk are 2 of them) so rooting and flashing a custom ROM is well worth it IMO
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It is a logger
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252429
Well I can disable Tell HTC but this one seems really nasty, because even the disabled button is not active
Who actually cares? It's always been on the Sensation
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Who actually cares? It's always been on the Sensation
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I didnt have it on GB, afaik this thing was only available for operator locked phones
I've always had it on my SIM-free Sensation. Used to delete it from my custom ROMs but never been bothered about it
Or is it just me? I love the inquisition rom for this exact reason. IDK, I just don't like it very much. Am I in a lone group with this? What's everyone else's take?
i wish hTC makes their phones as simple as the galaxy nexus, that's why i will flash a "senseless" ICS ROM.
I love AOSP ROMs, not de-sensed ROMs as they contain parts of sense still in them. E.g OpenSensation, nice AOSP ROM...
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Oops, double post...
Are senseless Roms quicker ? Better battery life ?
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I agree....I hate sense....its just not my stlyd which is why I have virtuous inquisition as well
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bstylz911 said:
Are senseless Roms quicker ? Better battery life ?
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that's what i've noticed on my previous HD2...i didn't try on my sensation yet, but i guess yeah, it's quicker
Sense is just a battery hog
I love sense... Probably because ive never owned an HTC before, and i really like how different it is to other android devices....
I dont think battery is that bad TBH, I can easily get 1-2 days use out of it....
Is there an HTC that doesnt come with sense (except windows phones) ??? If not why buy the HTC if you dont like sense ??
if you dont like sense you could install the aosp roms or install a third party launcher
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arabology said:
i wish hTC makes their phones as simple as the galaxy nexus, that's why i will flash a "senseless" ICS ROM.
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But then what would attract customers to buy a HTC device instead of a Galaxy Nexus?
OEM's can't compete on hardware differentiation alone IMO.
baste07 said:
install a third party launcher
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That won't change the horrible Sense apps. Yes, you could root your phone install an AOSP rom, but you shouldn't have to do that to make your phone work like it's supposed it.
HTC/other OEMS should just give an option to de-sense the phone somehow. If I had a pure-Google experience I wouldn't even need to root my phone.
Again why buy HTC then. The hardware specs are available in many other phones. IMHO.
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Ruus77 said:
Again why buy HTC then. The hardware specs are available in many other phones. IMHO.
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Not many other phones have 1.5GHz stock, only on the XE. And the build quality is better, so is Android Development etc.
Ruus77 said:
Again why buy HTC then. The hardware specs are available in many other phones. IMHO.
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I didn't buy it, TMO gave it to me for free cause my MT4G crapped out multiple times.
Ruus77 said:
Again why buy HTC then. The hardware specs are available in many other phones. IMHO.
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i bought it because of the qhd screen, also i like my devices to have some weight and feel sturdy something which other manufactures seem to not understand how to do
I like sense ...its gives the brand of HTC...I prefer look/feel and performance both so HTC with custom roms is perfect for me
Coming from iphone4 I used to have cheap opinion of android (yeah I know I'm little over my head when I had iPhone4) but once I got this little beast on my hands I'm baffled (the rich looking HTC sense and powerful beast inside)
I'm more than amazed ..may be I'm liking sense coz this is my first android phone but right now I feel like sense is a must for a HTC phone....when others look at my phone they'll just know its HTC
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Normally I'd take AOSP over Sense any day, but these AOSP ROMs always have some large turnoff that I don't want to mess with. I've been pretty fine with Sense 4.0 though.
HTC allows us to unlock but does not allow total root capabilities.
What is the point of unlocking and losing warranty if the phone is not truly yours?
Love the One S LOTS! But why keep it if development will be hampered by HTC?
Not a Samsung fan but I guess it will be my next device. Maybe sooner than later if I can sell the One S or trade for a G-Nex.
Got the S cause of T-Mobile and want true aosp along with full root functions. Thought it would be no problem to get aosp but wow was I wrong! Sense sucks!
Thanks HTC for once again SUCKING! You are losing the ONES who truly love your devices!
You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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joshnichols189 said:
You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/
LikeaG2root said:
Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/
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Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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joshnichols189 said:
Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?
Point is that HTC advertises that they are " developer friendly" which is total B.S.
They turn the knob for you but will not let you open the Fn door!
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Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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Just sucks how HTC is half assing their support.
I will likely hold on and wait for some good news in the future.
Never, since using Android ,have I ever thought about giving up on HTC until now
399$ Nexus looking real good right now.
Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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joshnichols189 said:
Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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I hear you man. I have always praised HTC build quality over Samsung.
I do agree that the S is better than the X. Phone is a BEAST. Just wish it was not handcuffed to Sense
For now the best I can do is keep using Black Dragon Rom which "looks" for the most part aosp.
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
phin586 said:
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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joshnichols189 said:
You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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The G2 was awesome. Very large and very good development support for it since it is also the same as Desire Z.
Sold it after getting One S. I had ICS on it working good including camera. Gingerbread was lightning fast on it.
phin586 said:
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are missing the point. Of course I did not expect huge development this early for the S. What you are missing is that the support my not get a chance due to HTC and HTC is misleading<which is what this thread is about.
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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ajftl said:
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You get FULL CONTROL AND CHOICE with AOSP along with SPEED and FLUIDITY!
ajftl said:
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Very stable. Looks aosp for the most part using Apex launcher and themed status bar and notifications. Sense system menu still there along with keyboard,gallery, and camera.
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Not the same. I tried. Widgetspro its one of the beat ones.
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