Just an idea but i think a lot of new viewers to the site ,will google a device or for a PDA /Smartphone forum and arrive here for pre purchase advice
With that in mind maybe its an idea to have a summary of the device specs at the top of everypage on the forum for that device
e.g exec section has a sticky exec intro: has wi-fi,3g,vga maybe pros and cons and if your thinking of this device also consider a******
As i feel the choosing of your device is the hardest part,also if your on the site and going to upgrade at leats youll knwo which device meets the specs ofyour requirements
just an idea
(oh and if there's already a feature like this, i have missed then i shall say sowwy and don a chimp suit and dance down my road)
Smiles
We all have to do that at sometime... but I think others will say, a summary of what the WHOLE forum is...is cheating on reading...
Read as much as you can, then you don't ask questions asked before!
A summary can NEVER be fully up to date! Or this forum would not exist!
NEWS you see....
Knowledge is an upward curve....
Well just brief device specs of that device maybe
Well!
It would be great for all of us, but WHO?? would keep it up to date? Specs for each unit change with Provider updates and also with cooked rom updates!
If you look at the wiki for each unit, you get a choice of what each person thinks is the best!
Baseware, (unit hardware and operator/hacker firmware) determines the bottom-line speed of the unit and extended rom (again a operator/hacker determination) sets the overall speed/memory allocation of the final setup!
If someone was to try to put this all in a "Quick-lookup" table, we would be here forever!
Please remember, this is a DEVELOPERS forum. If you require an individual device table, go to the providers websites and READ!
We all did that before we came here to better ourselves... Smiles.
I think such pages can be created on the Wiki. AFAIK, there is a page with spec comparison or some sort in the wiki.
Wiki is the best place for that and everybody can add to it thus it can stay up to date.
I wasn't sure if there was another place to put this, but I figured it would be routed appropriately if I placed it here.
Is there flexibility in the forums software to add functionality? Specifically, I thought it would be extremely valuable to institute a ROM rating system and have it linked to the ROM Development forums for each device. This way, instead of filtering through 300 pages of threads to read about Dutty's new WM 6.1 Hybrid ROM, we could hit the application and see at a glance how other's rate the ROM and its functionality.
I have a ton of web-development experience, and I'm offering my services to help make this happen. I would also be happy to throw together a concept if there is interest.
Hmmm...
Maybe I'm stupid or something, but i don't get it...
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Hmmm...
Maybe I'm stupid or something, but i don't get it...
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I doubt it. Maybe I didn't clearly described what I envisioning. The way ROMs are delivered now are through the threads. The author posts three or 4 threads in the forum with the description, benchmarks, applications included and any other ROM specific information (radio versions, spl and etc.). Everyone then downloads the ROM and replies to the thread with props or with problems. In the case I referred to, there are over 300 pages of responses.
My proposition is to create a place where the ROMs could be referenced/hosted, and then people could try out the ROM and give it a rating based on stability and features (e.g. poor, good, excellent, Christ Himself Cooked this ROM).
Each ROM could be classified based on the device it's cooked for, radio version, spl, and type (lite, heavy, business... etc.)
Capturing this level of information would make it easier to point people to one place to search for a "good ROM" (even though I know that's subjective).
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I doubt it. Maybe I didn't clearly described what I envisioning. The way ROMs are delivered now are through the threads. The author posts three or 4 threads in the forum with the description, benchmarks, applications included and any other ROM specific information (radio versions, spl and etc.). Everyone then downloads the ROM and replies to the thread with props or with problems. In the case I referred to, there are over 300 pages of responses.
My proposition is to create a place where the ROMs could be referenced/hosted, and then people could try out the ROM and give it a rating based on stability and features (e.g. poor, good, excellent, Christ Himself Cooked this ROM).
Each ROM could be classified based on the device it's cooked for, radio version, spl, and type (lite, heavy, business... etc.)
Capturing this level of information would make it easier to point people to one place to search for a "good ROM" (even though I know that's subjective).
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Then check out my thread. (You can find it in my signature)
Hello to all ,
Well i was jus siting and looking at all the ROMs around so jus gave it a thought that can;t we have a thread where is we post the name of all the current running ROMs for Kaiser which is most prefered and feedback to the chef to make it better..
i know i am really a Jr. to think so much for as i jus have a a new Kaiser.
But then jus give it a thought and post the ROM which is in your Kaiser/TYTN II / TILT ... and the one you feel is great..
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Hello to all ,
Well i was jus siting and looking at all the ROMs around so jus gave it a thought that can;t we have a thread where is we post the name of all the current running ROMs for Kaiser which is most prefered and feedback to the chef to make it better..
i know i am really a Jr. to think so much for as i jus have a a new Kaiser.
But then jus give it a thought and post the ROM which is in your Kaiser/TYTN II / TILT ... and the one you feel is great..
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It's all down to personal opinion, there are plenty ROM's to choose from, flash flash & flash till you find the one that you like...
You can aslo just check people sigs and the chefs get comments in there threads.
Hi, we are currently discussing the pros and cons of such a thread in the "About" forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466666
At the moment I am using PDACorner v14. A lot of members post their ROM versions in their signatures.
As I said in the other thread, this sort of discussion is very subjective. I'd recommend you watch the forum and try some of the newer ROM's to get a feel for what you like. That's how I do it
Ta
Dave
I truely agree to what you say we aren't here to make others decide and impose the ROMs we like but to express our experience to the ROM we are using... and why we like the ROM we are using...
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I truely agree to what you say we aren't here to make others decide and impose the ROMs we like but to express our experience to the ROM we are using... and why we like the ROM we are using...
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If everyone was as mature as you then we wouldn't have a problem, and we wouldn't need moderators
Until then we have to keep a close eye on these discussions before they decend into all out madness.
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Dave
I certainly agree this Dave...
Hats off to your work....
since ive been a member i personally think anyone who spends ther time to cook up and share with us all deserve a pat on back [or a donation how ever small]and like it says in first of any posts...search search...search
I recommend closing this thread... This is NOT a chat room... There are plenty of reading material in every Cooked ROM thread, that would enhance anybody's knowledge of which ROM people are using or not using and WHY...
My thing is, I am rather new to the ROM-flashing thing. I've quickly learned alot about how to do all this, and now what I'm lacking is a cohesive sense of what ROMs are out there that I can try on my phone - I haven't the time or the inclination to scroll through dozens of pages back through the Kaiser forum looking for ROMs to try. It would be nice to have a single sticky thread where all the available Kaiser ROMs are listed (in the Kaiser forum, and other similar threads for other phones in the other forums) that just hyperlink to the appropriate thread for each ROM.
What that gives the Noob especially is a list of all the ROMs they can try. I'm just guessing that I've seen even 1% of the available ROMs. I have no idea if I'm choosing one I really like, or one I settle on because I can't find the rest.
It's really little more than a question of convenience. By having a single list of all the available Kaiser ROMs, it makes it easy for me to look at them all and choose one. Such a thread does not need any discussion to be allowed, it's just a source of information. If people want to discuss a ROM, they can discuss it in the thread that is linked to from the main list.
Does this make sense?
theblueeyz said:
My thing is, I am rather new to the ROM-flashing thing. I've quickly learned alot about how to do all this, and now what I'm lacking is a cohesive sense of what ROMs are out there that I can try on my phone - I haven't the time or the inclination to scroll through dozens of pages back through the Kaiser forum looking for ROMs to try. It would be nice to have a single sticky thread where all the available Kaiser ROMs are listed (in the Kaiser forum, and other similar threads for other phones in the other forums) that just hyperlink to the appropriate thread for each ROM.
What that gives the Noob especially is a list of all the ROMs they can try. I'm just guessing that I've seen even 1% of the available ROMs. I have no idea if I'm choosing one I really like, or one I settle on because I can't find the rest.
It's really little more than a question of convenience. By having a single list of all the available Kaiser ROMs, it makes it easy for me to look at them all and choose one. Such a thread does not need any discussion to be allowed, it's just a source of information. If people want to discuss a ROM, they can discuss it in the thread that is linked to from the main list.
Does this make sense?
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Have you tried the wiki page
Ta
Dave
Apologise to those who think of closing the post but my intension was jus to let every express the ROM they use cause not every one uses the ROM anD Radio VER on there signatures..
Also it would let know that who uses which ROM , I am sorry to see that this is driven into a conterversy ..
Trolling for regulars
vikasraj dont worry mate this board is chock full of regulars who belive that anyone who comes here should read every single post, of course it is perfectly reasonable to ask for a quick list of popular roms but that would be far too easy and lets face it give the sad regulars nothing much to read, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the regular users here apart from the flashing info, they really don't add much apart from stupid pointless 'read the board' comments, I am here to find a new rom (the last one all the regs said was great is buggy as hell) and yes a rom chart would have saved a lot of time. Like you I have a life.
Forum a dictionary meaning
A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas
Did not the original message fall into this meaning.
By its very nature the posting of Roms is trying to compete with other roms.
So a thread that simply rates roms would be a good idea and give constructive comment and possibily the sort of feedback the rom builders are looking for and why they do what they do.
It would also help those that want to extend their experience, and not get frighten away by high minded comment.
Thats All
I suggest thread starter to just see the benchmarking of Kaiser ROM's done by one of Our friends out there in the kaiser forum. I will provide link whenever I get it but its better for now to search yourself for it. Go by facts & not by values. Hope it will help you. Good luck. I think we should move forward to help cookers in making ROM better.
Sorry but I could able to find only these ones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369796
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358788
Hope that is going to help the posters in some way. Cheers my friends. Forum doesn't mean only discussions it means to work as a team to make great things out of our dumbo brains. Cheers & happy new year.
Br.
Saksham Katyal
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vikasraj dont worry mate this board is chock full of regulars who belive that anyone who comes here should read every single post, of course it is perfectly reasonable to ask for a quick list of popular roms but that would be far too easy and lets face it give the sad regulars nothing much to read, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the regular users here apart from the flashing info, they really don't add much apart from stupid pointless 'read the board' comments, I am here to find a new rom (the last one all the regs said was great is buggy as hell) and yes a rom chart would have saved a lot of time. Like you I have a life.
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lol, funny stuff
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lol, funny stuff
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I see that editing came into play...LOL. I read the original.
SHAMELESS Self Promotion below.....
for all of you that want a nice speedy, stable rom--come try this one out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463284
theblueeyz said:
It's really little more than a question of convenience. By having a single list of all the available Kaiser ROMs, it makes it easy for me to look at them all and choose one. Such a thread does not need any discussion to be allowed, it's just a source of information. If people want to discuss a ROM, they can discuss it in the thread that is linked to from the main list.
Does this make sense?
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Yup - it already exists, here.
It doesn't say much about the roms, but it's a fairly comprehensive list.
DaveShaw said:
Hi, we are currently discussing the pros and cons of such a thread in the "About" forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466666
At the moment I am using PDACorner v14. A lot of members post their ROM versions in their signatures.
As I said in the other thread, this sort of discussion is very subjective. I'd recommend you watch the forum and try some of the newer ROM's to get a feel for what you like. That's how I do it
Ta
Dave
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Why are we doing this again ? I understand that people are (especially it seems the noobs ) incredibly lazy. No one wants to do their homework, no one wants to test drive. no one wants to think. Everyone wants someone else(no matter what their qualifications) to tell them what is the best.
The chefs here do not make these roms for you or me. They make these roms for the challenge and for themselves and then they share them with us. How offensive would it then be , to subject them to a competition .
It would be like going to a Hot Rod or Custom car show and judging people's hours , months or years of artistic and engineering work with a dismissive " that one sucks, not enough cup holders " guess what ? It wasn't built for you, it was shared with you. Your opinions are yours, why should chefs be forced to confront these ( mostly uninfomed opinions ) in a public forum.
Every rom has it's own thread to rate and evaluate the rom, and to try to work out whether it is the rom that is at fault or the user.That is more than enough discussion for the chefs to improve the rom.
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(the last one all the regs said was great is buggy as hell)
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Although getting some people to actually do this .........( with 7 total posts ) one wonders how much effort was put into identifying the source of these " bugs ."
These are the type of comments we want our chefs to be subject to on a concentrated thread ?
mcstussy said:
vikasraj dont worry mate this board is chock full of regulars who believe that anyone who comes here should read every single post, of course it is perfectly reasonable to ask for a quick list of popular roms but that would be far too easy and lets face it give the sad regulars nothing much to read
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I got A's in college , because I read and did my homework. Of course many others graduated too by using someone elses notes.
mcstussy said:
I wouldn't pay too much attention to the regular users here apart from the flashing info, they really don't add much apart from stupid pointless 'read the board' comments
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Translation : It is all about me..me..me.. for free...free.. free.. To all you people who have contributed to this forum for years, if there is nothing that you can give me...me...me..now..now...now for free...free...free... then you all suck and keep your opinions to yourself.
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I have a life.
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And I am not wasting it doing *THIS*
Dave, if you are asking, I vote no, for subjecting our much appreciated chefs. to a beauty contest or prom king type thread for the benefit of the "lazy "
Just my opinion. Thanks for listening
this would be fine topic in the Kaiser generall forum. (alot of the people who hate these types of threads cluttering up the boards like myself dont generally read the generall forum very often I believe)
This isa rom DEVELOPMENT forum. Ie if your not either posting a new rom in development or about the process of cooking and development.....you should not start a new thread here. The Kaiser generall forum is a great place for this type of discussion.
also a good way to get a overall list of the most popular roms would be to sort this forum by how many posts a thread has....click at top. And that will continue to be useful as long as people only post new roms and development related topics in here.
This topic should be moved to the kaiser generall forum and it would be taken much better/ignored by the more senior members/admins
All,
as the title says, if you can make a youtube video review of your latest ROM that would be really helpful for other users. I would suggest 5 min video to the max and showing the features specific to the ROM. Please show us
1) how speed the graphic performance in home screen, app drawer, scrolling, browsing, gaming etc,.
2) Additional features the ROM might have like CRT, overscroll, Batt indicator etc,.
3) Anything more that make sense to mention..
Its just an idea. If most of you think this is not a good idea, i will let mod to close the thread.
Thanks.
I am going to collect all the reviews submitted in the first post.
Update:
Android Revolution HD by mike1986.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/r0P4EKYAf9Y
Not to flame, but this isn't development. This should be in the general section.
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Not to flame, but this isn't development. This should be in the general section.
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Point taken. Since its ROM review, i thought it would be more appropriate to have it in this section. I will let mod decide on this.
That's great idea for a tread... Hope will see dev reviewing their roms
Hi my name is DloBrown and Im A nightly addict!!!
i think it should be here so people could review a rom before they dl. Mod make this a sticky one video for each rom not everybody uploading a vid of the same rom infact this should be for devs only to upload thier vid of they rom
Or we do something like an audition where everyone who wants to, can submit a review and then the person with the best review does the reviews for every rom. It makes the reviews less biased and its better to have 1 viewpoint to avoid confusion.
Made by Android Revolution HD user:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0P4EKYAf9Y
Hey, guys! Hope you're all doing well and safe. I just started creating a spreadsheet on Google Sheets for the purpose of tracking my battery usage and thought it would be good to share it here.
Just a few notes:
1. Battery life depends on your usage and therefore, might differ even with the same setup.
2. This is in no way an intention to disrespect any ROM or kernel developer. All of them work day/night to deliver amazing ROMs and kernels for us to use, without any charge. If, by any means, the thread or the posts within this thread turn out to be disrespectful, I am happy to immediately close the thread.
Okay, that's done. Now, let's get straight into it.
I'll post a link to a spreadsheet on Google Sheets where I'll try and update my battery stats as and when possible. You are welcome to do so, but please form a new sheet within the file, if possible.
Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...5pMRRfJ8mbO_bKewrkrtufNPD9k/edit?usp=drivesdk
Guide referenced for tweaks:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/guide-ultimate-guide-installing-custom-t4079937 - @DJsushi123
(Oops, forgot to add "Discussion" to the thread title. Sorry) {Mod edit: Done!}
Thanks,
Sohail
Seems like we have sort of a winner here. Evolution X with Radioactive kernel 10.4.5.
This is with AOD on and around 1 and a half hour of gaming.