I posted this in another thread, but figured I'd start a fresh one just for people's impressions and comments on the new Gingerbread leak.
As with most updates, the only thing noticable up front are just some cosmetic changes. Probably cause it's running Sense 2.1. I gather the majority of changes are "Under the Hood".
A few observations so far.
The weather widget now has sounds. You can toggle them off if you don't like them.
The netflix 1.3 app still works fine in 2.3 as it did in 2.2.
The Unknown Sources checkbox is included.
For people like me who hate the Fast Boot option and wish to turn it off. They moved it from Applications to Power under settings.
When you lower the status bar window, there is a tab on the bottom now for "Quick Settings", which will let you toggle BT, WiFi, GPS, WiFi HotSpot and Mobile Network.
But the biggest issue I still see wasn't addressed, is that under About Phone and Network, it still displays HSDPA under Mobile Network Type instead of HSPA like it should when you are in a 4G area. The Atrix with the GB update properly displays that. I don't know why the Inspire doesn't. So it's difficult to tell if you are really connecting to HSPA or not. Sure the backhaul might be there, but if your phone is still connecting as HSDPA you are not getting full advantage of the "4G" network.
Also so far the speaker quality is just as bad as it was under 2.2. Either HTC has people with hearing problems in their engineering department, or they just use crappy speakers in their phones, which is what I think. Bad components.
Well that's just a few things so far. I'm still checking it out. Hopefully this is the final version being pushed out this month. Props to the person who leaked it.
BTW I hate the new Market. I prefer the older one better. The new one is too crowded. The older one was simpler and to the point.
So lets chime in with things you've noticed different, bug fixed, or new bugs.
I havn't tried it out yet I'm Kinda new to all this and learning pretty quick...the one thing I love about Android so far is the flexibility
I used it for about 3 hours.
1. Sense sucks. Still
2. It eats battery like a mofo. Still
3. Who uses the speaker? Its a dumb complaint. 1/4" garbage speaker = FTL
5. I like the new market. It doesn't matter to me how it looks really. But I don't spend moments really thinking about it. /Shrug
6. Yes I skipped four.
7. Why does the weather widget have sounds? I can roll down/Open the window if I want to hear the weather..... ..
8. I didn't notice the touchscreen issue when using it. Then again I haven't noticed it since I reflashed MIUI either.
10. AT&T doesn't really have 4g man. So who cares what the device says its running on so long as I can look stuff up when I need to.
9. It wasn't Aosp so I ran away as fast as i could
11. Yes nine and ten are swapped.
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I used it for about 3 hours.
1. Sense sucks. Still
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I'll have to give MIUI a shot it's the only one I havnt tried so far
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But the biggest issue I still see wasn't addressed, is that under About Phone and Network, it still displays HSDPA under Mobile Network Type instead of HSPA like it should when you are in a 4G area. The Atrix with the GB update properly displays that. I don't know why the Inspire doesn't. So it's difficult to tell if you are really connecting to HSPA or not. Sure the backhaul might be there, but if your phone is still connecting as HSDPA you are not getting full advantage of the "4G" network.
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Not sure I follow what you're saying. HSDPA and HSPA are essentially the same thing. The extra "D" is merely referring to the downlink component of HSPA. And we already know that HSUPA (uplink) is working because AT&T enabled it in the OTA update that came out at the end of April. Since we know HSDPA and HSUPA are both working, then full HSPA is working. Since the phone is reporting HSDPA, this is merely semantics; HSDPA = HSPA. You can't have one without the other.
Edit: regarding the speaker, the majority of the problem is software related. The stock ROM has a poor equalization curve applied to the speaker, or none at all. In CyanogenMod 7, for example, you can use DSPManager to boost the midrange frequencies and reduce the high frequencies to just the speaker. This makes it sound much better, similar to iPhone 4 quality, although not as loud
SuicideMyk said:
I'll have to give MIUI a shot it's the only one I havnt tried so far
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You won't switch after
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You won't switch after
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I hated miui, kept it for 20 minutes. Looks too much like an iPhone for me.
I personally, like it but I have a rooted htc Inspire so I have no problems thus far..
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I hated miui, kept it for 20 minutes. Looks too much like an iPhone for me.
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This looks like an Iphone to you?
Already installed - will reinstalling delete data?
I've already installed a version of this that was stock with the bloatware, but rooted. If I flash this over what I've already installed, will it remove my data and settings?
As far as how I like it, I'm OK with it so far. I looked for the fast boot option in the Privacy settings and it isn't there. It's not under the Applications area either. So now my boot time is about 2.3 minutes, which is a looong wait.
Fast boot is in the Power settings.
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@ Tweaked
Who uses the speaker? Umm...like everyone. I am not one of those people who wears a bluetooth headset all the time to make it look like I'm important.
The tinny / high treblely sound to the speaker is very annoying. Also the speaker volume is about HALF of what my iPhone is. If I am outside and wearing the phone on my belt I can't hear when I get an alert or text...etc...I need to also have it on Vibrate to even hear it. Now inside I can hear it. I can hear a text alert on my iPhone from the other end of my house.
@ henrybravo
Yes HSDPA and HSPA are not the same. When having a network update meeting, I saw a paper which had the evolution of the network from 2G all the way to LTE. HSPA was the next step after HSDPA. Granted it's a minor issue, but just because the backhaul is there at the tower, if you are not using the latest protocol in the connection, then you will not get as much as you should get as far as bandwidth. Yes it is pretty much moot I guess between the two, but I would still like to see the connection being reported acurately.
As far as the speaker, yes I've seen some speaker mods for rooted phones and custom Roms, but what I can't figure out is why HTC doesn't just tweaked it themselves. It obviously can be done with software. It's like they don't care or listen to people. I remember when the Inspire first came out. The speaker volume and quality was a big complaint all over the web, even on HTC's own forums. Of course they didn't listen and fix it.
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@ Tweaked
Yes HSDPA and HSPA are not the same. When having a network update meeting, I saw a paper which had the evolution of the network from 2G all the way to LTE. HSPA was the next step after HSDPA.
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"HSPA is the terminology used when both HSDPA (3GPP Release 5) and HSUPA (3GPP Release 6) technologies are deployed on a network. HSPA Evolved (HSPA+ in 3GPP Release 7 and beyond) is also part of the HSPA technology and extends an operator’s investment in the network before the next step to 3GPP Long Term Evolution (LTE, or 3GPP Release 8 and beyond)."
- http://www.4gamericas.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=page§ionid=247
Even if they changed it to read HSPA in the network settings, it is still HSDPA for downlink and HSUPA for uplink.
I agree with you about the speaker though. It is my only real complaint about the phone.
Thank you Fernandezhjr!
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Fast boot is in the Power settings.
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Ya that was my bad. I knew it was in Power, don't know why I said Privacy. I have corrected it in my original post.
wolverine423 said:
"HSPA is the terminology used when both HSDPA (3GPP Release 5) and HSUPA (3GPP Release 6) technologies are deployed on a network. HSPA Evolved (HSPA+ in 3GPP Release 7 and beyond) is also part of the HSPA technology and extends an operator’s investment in the network before the next step to 3GPP Long Term Evolution (LTE, or 3GPP Release 8 and beyond)."
- http://www.4gamericas.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=page§ionid=247
Even if they changed it to read HSPA in the network settings, it is still HSDPA for downlink and HSUPA for uplink.
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Yes I understand all that. I guess what I was curious about, is why it always says HSDPA even when you are not in a so-called 4G area?
Back when I got the phone, before the general public did, and also before AT&T starting rolling out 4G, it still said HSDPA. The only time it didn't was if I was in the boonies and was on Edge.
So whether you are in a 3G or 4G area it will say HSDPA regardless. So making it say HSPA when actually in a 4G area is more accurate.
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Yes I understand all that. I guess what I was curious about, is why it always says HSDPA even when you are not in a so-called 4G area?
Back when I got the phone, before the general public did, and also before AT&T starting rolling out 4G, it still said HSDPA. The only time it didn't was if I was in the boonies and was on Edge.
So whether you are in a 3G or 4G area it will say HSDPA regardless. So making it say HSPA when actually in a 4G area is more accurate.
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It probably has something to do with ATT's "4G" just being upgraded 3G. Same technology with increased backhaul to give faster speeds.
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@ Tweaked
Who uses the speaker? Umm...like everyone. I am not one of those people who wears a bluetooth headset all the time to make it look like I'm important.
The tinny / high treblely sound to the speaker is very annoying. Also the speaker volume is about HALF of what my iPhone is. If I am outside and wearing the phone on my belt I can't hear when I get an alert or text...etc...I need to also have it on Vibrate to even hear it. Now inside I can hear it. I can hear a text alert on my iPhone from the other end of my house.
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Ahh I see. I don't wear one of those snobie, BT, one ear, headsets either. But I am also not "outside" all day, nor do I wear one of those grandmother fanny pack holsters on my belt...... It sits on the desk in my office all day which prolly makes a difference in hearing it.
My HSUPA is gone with the new update. My upload is being capped around 300 again. WTF
Used the leaked RUU posted in this section.
EDIT: hmm weird now it seems to be uploading fine.
wolverine423 said:
It probably has something to do with ATT's "4G" just being upgraded 3G. Same technology with increased backhaul to give faster speeds.
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+1. The iPhone4 is marketed as a "3G" phone but it apparently runs on HSPA because I've gotten download speeds of 6-7 MB/s out of it. AT&T uses the term "4G" quite loosely.
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So, will the captivate have HSUPA?? It says on the main page here on XDA, in the specs breakdown, next to HSUPA it says, NOT IN US.
I could have swore i read that it WILL have it?
I have an iphone 4, and have become accustomed to the crazy fast upload now, but i wanted to pick up the captivate to tinker with an android phone.
Everything I have read so far has said it is supported, but now that you mention it, what would be the difference, a certain frequency band I guess? Nothing I have read over thus far has said anything about a difference between countries (i.e. US and rest of world)...
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So, will the captivate have HSUPA?? It says on the main page here on XDA, in the specs breakdown, next to HSUPA it says, NOT IN US.
I could have swore i read that it WILL have it?
I have an iphone 4, and have become accustomed to the crazy fast upload now, but i wanted to pick up the captivate to tinker with an android phone.
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Not sure if this is fast enough for you but unless AT&T massacred the radio in the Captivate you should experience speeds like.... http://twitpic.com/24a5ri
That's my Galaxy S in Orlando running solely off 1900MHz 3G.
FWIW, this indicates HSUPA is supported, but I'd consider this a preliminary spec that needs to be confirmed after the Captivate is released and tested.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2430&view=1&c=samsung_sgh-i897_galaxy_s_captivate_
Sweet, very nice.
Seriously, once you have HSUPA, you cant go back. Its like going back to edge.
I still think i'm going to hold out about a week or so after the device launches just to make sure of a few things that i need to have.
thanks fellas!
Can we bring this back for discussion again?
From what I understand, when you are on HSUPA you will get an H in the status bar instead of 3G. Is anyone seeing this? So far I haven't seen this and speedtests have agreed that I haven't had HSUPA. I had an iphone 4 before and I know it was on HSUPA in the same area.
AJerman said:
Can we bring this back for discussion again?
From what I understand, when you are on HSUPA you will get an H in the status bar instead of 3G. Is anyone seeing this? So far I haven't seen this and speedtests have agreed that I haven't had HSUPA. I had an iphone 4 before and I know it was on HSUPA in the same area.
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Yes. If you look at my picture posted here http://twitpic.com/24a5ri you will see the 'H' you are asking about in the statusbar.
My phone says I'm on HSDPA but I only have the 3G icon on my screen. Do you only get the "H" when you have the high-speed upload? Seems a bit counter intuitive to me.
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My phone says I'm on HSDPA but I only have the 3G icon on my screen. Do you only get the "H" when you have the high-speed upload? Seems a bit counter intuitive to me.
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I've read somewhere awhile back that it fluctuates from showing 3G to HSDPA when it's active on data transfer and hits/detects the higher speed...don't hold me to that though. Maybe someone else can offer more insight into it but i've actively seen the icon switch from 3G to H with not interaction by me (background data i assume)
Well that's weird. I'll have to play with it more tomorrow and see if I can figure out why mine won't jump on HSUPA.
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Okay, so at my house, where I know I got HSUPA on the iPhone 4, I'm definitely not getting it now on the Captivate. I have a signal strength of -51 dB, so I know I have enough signal. I couldn't get much higher signal if I sat under the tower. I'm wondering if I have a problem on my phone since trinikartel got HSUPA just fine.
I'm new to Android, anyone know something to check for this?
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Okay, so at my house, where I know I got HSUPA on the iPhone 4, I'm definitely not getting it now on the Captivate. I have a signal strength of -51 dB, so I know I have enough signal. I couldn't get much higher signal if I sat under the tower. I'm wondering if I have a problem on my phone since trinikartel got HSUPA just fine.
I'm new to Android, anyone know something to check for this?
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Well trinikartel said he was on a Galaxy S, not a Captivate. I'm thinking the US versions dont have HSUPA. I have another thread on here stating that I got 2457 down and only 174 up this morning. Also, I've never seen my 3G turn to an H.
Also, I dont know if it matters but on my 3G icon the down arrow is orange and the up arrow is green.
I think you guys don't realize that AT&T's HSUPA is still broken. Don't you remember that whole upload fiasco? It affects the Captivate as it does the iPhone 4 and it hasn't been fixed in those markets (apparently most) where they use the Lucent equipment.
I used to get great HSUPA upload speeds on my AT&T banded N1 and the upload has not been fixed as uploads are still stuck at regular 3G < 300kbit speeds.
The Captivate undoubtedly supports HSUPA, but AT&T's network is still borked and as far as I can tell they have not rolled out any fix.
I have both the N1 and the Captivate.
The only other thing I can think of is if AT&T is turning off the HSUPA based on the phones IMEI or model number.
Just checked with an iPhone 4 friend, can not get over 200k -300l, so there is still a system wide HSUPA failure as far as my limited testing in my market is concerned.
Used to be 1.6mbit up quite regularly on the N1 or the iPhone4.
-James
derek4484 said:
Well trinikartel said he was on a Galaxy S, not a Captivate. I'm thinking the US versions dont have HSUPA. I have another thread on here stating that I got 2457 down and only 174 up this morning. Also, I've never seen my 3G turn to an H.
Also, I dont know if it matters but on my 3G icon the down arrow is orange and the up arrow is green.
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Oh, I didn't see him say that. That sucks. I really hope the Captivate didn't get crippled, but right now, there's no other explanation than that. I SHOULD have HSUPA right now, and I don't.
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I think you guys don't realize that AT&T's HSUPA is still broken. Don't you remember that whole upload fiasco? It affects the Captivate as it does the iPhone 4 and it hasn't been fixed in those markets (apparently most) where they use the Lucent equipment.
I used to get great HSUPA upload speeds on my AT&T banded N1 and the upload has not been fixed as uploads are still stuck at regular 3G < 300kbit speeds.
The Captivate undoubtedly supports HSUPA, but AT&T's network is still borked and as far as I can tell they have not rolled out any fix.
I have both the N1 and the Captivate.
The only other thing I can think of is if AT&T is turning off the HSUPA based on the phones IMEI or model number.
Just checked with an iPhone 4 friend, can not get over 200k -300l, so there is still a system wide HSUPA failure as far as my limited testing in my market is concerned.
Used to be 1.6mbit up quite regularly on the N1 or the iPhone4.
-James
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I never had an issue where I live. While everyone else was going slow, I was still doing 1200-1300 Kbps.
Edit: Looks like there's a good chance the Captivate WAS crippled. There's absolutely no mention of HSUPA in the manual at all. This REALLY sucks. I may consider returning the phone because of this and leaving AT&T.
Its all 3g hsdpa/umts
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I've read somewhere awhile back that it fluctuates from showing 3G to HSDPA when it's active on data transfer and hits/detects the higher speed...don't hold me to that though. Maybe someone else can offer more insight into it but i've actively seen the icon switch from 3G to H with not interaction by me (background data i assume)
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AT&T devices do not show the H like the International versions, they use 3G icon only to avoid confusion apparently.
Well on AT&T's site it says the iphone 4 has umts/hsdpa. I'm pretty positive that it has hsupa. So I don't believe AT&T's site is an accurate source of information for their own products.
I just put my sim card back in my ATT Tilt2. It DOES show H in Dallas, TX. As it has since I bought it. Captivate shows 3g. There IS a speed difference.
I live in NYC and just ran a speed test. I'm getting 1.52 - 2mpbs down and .19mbps up. While my friend on his iphone 4 sitting right next to me is getting 3 mbps down and 1.8mbps up. This phone definitely slower. And when I tether the speeds go even slower. Is phone really crippled?
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I live in NYC and just ran a speed test. I'm getting 1.52 - 2mpbs down and .19mbps up. While my friend on his iphone 4 sitting right next to me is getting 3 mbps down and 1.8mbps up. This phone definitely slower. And when I tether the speeds go even slower. Is phone really crippled?
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I'm getting about the same right now (at night I can get 4M down). The thing is that I'm getting the same crappy upstream speeds with my Nexus One. Before the whole AT&T equipment ****-up in early July, I was getting ~1.5M up with my Nexus. Now I'm wondering if they crippled it for non-Apple devices.
ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
if you use adw launcher and custom make an icon attached to the hidden menu apk you can access the test and servicing menus like other phones BUT... if you go into test settings for phone (play around its in there) there is a menu the shows hspda (3g, hspda+ being 4g) and many other functions that are advertised on the phone that are all listed as NOT IMPLIMENTED YET!!
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming). so it would make sense why the signal on the phone is screwed up and dropping (confused phone maybe?) and why im still getting 3g speeds (slightly faster maybe from better signal reception due to upgraded hardware from my previous Vibrant).
go take a look for yourself and let me know what you think. im sure you can use desktop visualizer to get to the menu to. DONT MESS WITH ANYTHING THOUGH. i had to reset my phone and not with a hard reset, but a recovery i found on a nvflash website. almost bricked it. so just look but don't touch anything important unless you know what your doing.
im looking forward to hearing what everything thinks of this and the giant list of other features also saying this in the same menu. because i feel mislead just a little bit.....
I think it's just that the functions in the hidden menu aren't implemented yet.
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
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There's a reason for that...
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming)
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I've got a hot 4g connection where I am (west Texas), you don't get 4.9-5.6mb (Speedtest) download on 3g. Did you check the T-Mobile coverage map to see if you have it in your area yet?
Edit: you also may need a new sim card. Depending on the age of the card, you might not be able to get a stable lock on to 4g (age as in what generation it was produced.. not how long you've had it)
thats possible, but im getting 3g speeds still as far as i can tell and i don't see why it wouldnt be included in the "hidden menu" if it is working since we aren't "really" supposed to know about the hidden menu. anyways just something i noticed.
menu is Hidden Menu->modem settings is where the menu is at.
and i got a new sim card (tired 2 new ones both the same) and yes i am in salt lake city and it is a 4g area for tmobile. but seems like everyone (mostly) is getting signal drops all over the place. my 2g isn't working as consistantly as it did before on my vibrant either. im sure gingerbread will fix all of this though.
I'm getting 4-8mps down in Metro Atlanta. I say 4G speed is on.
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Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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I'm having the same problem, and I've even got a 2G booster in my house. My 2G connection drops all the time on my G2X but not my Vibrant. When I look at the signal strength when it's up it's not much different than the Vibrant, -104dBm on the G2X vs -100 dBm on the Vibrant
Im at a consistent 6-9mb dl at my house with a 1mb+ ul. Im calling it 4g and have you tried your conn outside of your city to see if its just congestion on the network?
I'm also getting 4-8mbps speeds in Atlanta, 4g is definitely working.
I'm in vegas, every hour, I get only 10 or 20mn of 4g at 6Mb download speed, the rest of the time I'm on 2g. At night time,i get 4g most of the time. So I guess in the day time, they kick me back to 2g to save their bandwitch, I'm returning my phone to let them know this is not acceptable
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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Not sure but this may have as much to do with the processor and RAM speed as the connection speed.
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
A few things, before we get too heavy handed on the FUD:
The phone is technically '4G' compatible, and it supports it out of the box.
Most of T-Mo's towers have been upgraded to support their 4G (HSPA+)
Regular HSPA caps out at about 3.5Mbps down. I've gotten as much as 7Mbps down on my G2x
Personally, I haven't had many issues with signal, but I live in Houston, so that may have something to do with it.
4g is on in Huntington Beach, and irvine.
I did notice its not a huge difference speed wise though. I had the moto cliq 3g and i would get 1mbs ish to 5mbs DL, and with the G2x im averaging about 3mbs to 7mbs. not a huge difference but the big change is Latency. I used to rock 700ms to 1000ms on 3g with my cliq, im getting around 55ms to 150ms on my G2x.
Latency is key for me though, i would prefer lower latency than higher download speeds. Due to the fact I need to vpn and voip with company network.
I found that t mobiles 3g network is still very capable in speed. the main issue i had was my cliq was underpowered to handle the t mobiles network. when i would tether my rooted nook color it would perform like a champ.
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
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Where do you live? Is it possible T-Mo may not support HSPA+ in your area?
It's also important to note that even if the towers you're connected to support HSPA+, that's only one part of the process. They also have to upgrade the data connection to the tower itself (backhaul) to ensure it can handle the speeds. If you're connected to an HSPA+ tower that doesn't have the upgraded backhaul, that could explain slow speeds.
No.
HSPA+ ("4G") is on and working. You're just not in an HSPA+ area it seems.
We're all getting faster than HSPA speeds, so we are certainly on HSPA+. Speedtests are the best way for you to verify if you are on EDGE (2G), HSPA (3G), or HSPA+ (4G).
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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That's the thing though. The way T-Mo has their network setup, if you can get 3G from a tower, you should be able to get 4G. Period. You may not get 4G speeds, but you're technically connected to an HSPA+ tower, and thus the 4G icon. It'd be weird to connect a tower that supports HSPA at this point, but not HSPA+ (though I'm sure there are some out there)
I was curious if anyone thinks that HTC's impending Gingerbread update for the Inspire 4G will fix the issues with the crappy speaker volume and tinny sound?
Probably not being as the DesireHD still suffers from it I believe even after the GB update.
I am not really into rooting, so the rooting arguments aren't valid. I prefer to stay stock.
Also on a different note, how do you tell if you are on 4G? Eventhough I am in a so-called 4G area, my network status always says HSDPA. I though I read somewhere if you are on 4G it says HSPA or HSPA+.
thanks for the info.
It might have a new radio that will fix bugs, but if I were to take a guess I would say no since the ROMs out there now do not.
If it says H+ then you're running 3.5/4G.
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It might have a new radio that will fix bugs, but if I were to take a guess I would say no since the ROMs out there now do not.
If it says H+ then you're running 3.5/4G.
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Acutally no, the H+ does not mean you are on 4G. It always says that, even in areas i know for a fact are still 3G. I remember when I got the phone it had the H+ even when AT&T didn't have the 4G network up yet.
I'm pretty sure when you look at the Network status under about phone it changes there. I noticed yesterday that an Atrix with the new GB update now says HSPA under network status.
You could always check into getting a warranty replacement cause even before I rooted my speaker hasn't suffered from any sound problems so maybe you have a bad speaker. Also you say you want to stay stock, there is a rooted stock rom in the developers thread.
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Acutally no, the H+ does not mean you are on 4G. It always says that, even in areas i know for a fact are still 3G. I remember when I got the phone it had the H+ even when AT&T didn't have the 4G network up yet.
I'm pretty sure when you look at the Network status under about phone it changes there. I noticed yesterday that an Atrix with the new GB update now says HSPA under network status.
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That's weird, because mine switches back to 3G sometimes. Maybe it's due to the ROM I'm running. Sorry if I provided wrong info.
stryfe2010 said:
You could always check into getting a warranty replacement cause even before I rooted my speaker hasn't suffered from any sound problems so maybe you have a bad speaker. Also you say you want to stay stock, there is a rooted stock rom in the developers thread.
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I know it's not a bad phone. I've had mine before the general public got them. Everyone I know that went to that HTC conference complained about the bad speaker volume and clarity. Actually there are many threads on here and other forums with a ton of people complaining about it. Even the Devs made patches to try and fix it.
So I know it's a design issue.
Here's an example. If my iPhone is sitting downstairs on the table and I am upstairs, I can hear if I get a text or email. With my Inspire, I can't even hear it if it is on my belt and I am standing outside. If I didn't have it on vibrate I wouldn't even know I received a text. A few co workers who have the Inspire have the same issues, and their from different batches.
Bluetooth is also weird. If I have my BlueAnt on and get more than 10 feet from the phone it disconnects. With my iphone I can be on the other side of the house away from my phone and it still stays connected.
But anyway, I'm still trying to figure out the 4G indicator to know when I'm actually in 4G. I thought I remembered people here talking about it awhile back, but can't find any threads on it.
In reality the H+ will always be on regardless of if ure actually on 3.5, 3.0 or 4.0, atleast with the inspire. The only way is to look under about phone under settings. The reason AT&T put it like that as to make u believe that their 4g is everywhere and better. But in reality it really doesn't matter as At&ts 4g is not 4g regardless of what they call it.
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Bosnazmaj said:
In reality the H+ will always be on regardless of if ure actually on 3.5, 3.0 or 4.0, atleast with the inspire. The only way is to look under about phone under settings. But in reality it really doesn't matter as At&ts 4g is not 4g regardless of what they call it.
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Well regardless of it not being true 4G, there has to be an indicator somewhere on what 3G variant you are on.
Being as the Atrix now displays HSPA on the new GB rom, unlike when it still said HSDPA in the same area with an Atrix which was still on 2.2 leads me to believe the radio in GB must be more accurate in showing what network you are on.
I am guessing that the Inspire is currently not displaying correctly being as it still says HSDPA sitting right next to an Atrix on GB which says HSPA under About Phone and Network.
My Inspire always says HSDPA regardless if I am in a so-called "4G" area or not.
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Well regardless of it not being true 4G, there has to be an indicator somewhere on what 3G variant you are on.
Being as the Atrix now displays HSPA on the new GB rom, unlike when it still said HSDPA in the same area with an Atrix which was still on 2.2 leads me to believe the radio in GB must be more accurate in showing what network you are on.
I am guessing that the Inspire is currently not displaying correctly being as it still says HSDPA sitting right next to an Atrix on GB which says HSPA under About Phone and Network.
My Inspire always says HSDPA regardless if I am in a so-called "4G" area or not.
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It is most likely that the inspire just wasn't configured to show the HSPA. Att might have thought they were gonna get an update out first. Could be the atrix is set if the data speed hits a mark it changes the HSPA and the Inspire isn't set for it yet. The only true test would be doing a speed test on both.
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I know it's not a bad phone. I've had mine before the general public got them. Everyone I know that went to that HTC conference complained about the bad speaker volume and clarity. Actually there are many threads on here and other forums with a ton of people complaining about it. Even the Devs made patches to try and fix it.
So I know it's a design issue.
Here's an example. If my iPhone is sitting downstairs on the table and I am upstairs, I can hear if I get a text or email. With my Inspire, I can't even hear it if it is on my belt and I am standing outside. If I didn't have it on vibrate I wouldn't even know I received a text. A few co workers who have the Inspire have the same issues, and their from different batches.
Bluetooth is also weird. If I have my BlueAnt on and get more than 10 feet from the phone it disconnects. With my iphone I can be on the other side of the house away from my phone and it still stays connected.
But anyway, I'm still trying to figure out the 4G indicator to know when I'm actually in 4G. I thought I remembered people here talking about it awhile back, but can't find any threads on it.
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Its not just you, the speaker is crap and so is the bluetooth, and so is the cell radio,and so is the battery, and the screen pops up, and.... LOL
I have 2 inspires and have had nothing but trouble. First htc that has let me down. I had a friend that went through 3 inspires trying to get the bluetooth fixed and they were all the same, he has since moved on. Hell I can put my phone right next to my radio and cover the bluetooth ant with my hand and get it to break up, pure crap. If I use a bluetooth headset it will start to get staticy if I put the phone in my pocket.I honestly think it has allot to do with the metal body.
I hate to be debbie downer but its true. You will be hard pressed to find allot of negative posts here because we have pride in ownership. I personally dont care. I call a spade a spade, and this phone has some serious issues. Not to say I dont like the phone because I do. But without the dev support I would have chucked this flacker a long time ago. With the proper rom its just so fast.
Now I will say that ever since I moved to virtuous unity my speaker is worlds better. I have flashed a **** ton of roms and vu has the best speaker performance for my inspires by far. I tried +20% kernels,dsp manager,volume apk and all that stuff. sure it made the volume louder some but it sounded like ass and still wasnt even close to being loud. with virtuous unity I am actually somewhat satisfied. Youtube videos and stuff still lack, but its worlds better.
As for actually being on the hspa+ signal or not, I dont know. On the stock rom I am almost certain the 3g,hspda, and hspa+ are all signified by h+. I know that allot of dev roms differentiate between 3g and hspa. But quiet honestly the speed difference is not night and day anyway. Your iphone probably gets damn near the same speeds. Some guys are getting 8megs and ****, but I have yet to go over 5 and I can get that with an iphone or other 3g android. And yes I am in a hspa+ area with increased backhaul.
OK, so as I'm sure some of you are seeing, there's an issue with the HSPA/UMTS switching. Like a LOT. I've tried to do Speed Tests, but simply am not able to, because the connection wants to switch from 3g to 4g and back over and over again.
I wanna see how many of you are aware of this and are fed up with it. It's kind of silly. C'mon HTC.
I too have noticed this issue. I'm sure it will be fixed quickly. Such is the penalty to being an early adapter.
Doesn't affect my calling in no way whatsoever. Does mess with my browsing a bit, and after connecting to my home wifi i can say that the switching is definitely the cause.
Hope it gets a quick and tidy fix soon.
yep I see it all the time, doesnt bother me though
I think this is a bug in all HOS
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The Galaxy Nexus does this. It switches between 3G and H based on what is being done. If you're not browsing it is on 3G, and if you're browsing and actively using the connection it switches to H. My One S doesn't do this at all unless I'm in a fringe area.
Agreed with the OP, this is annoying, because while the device is in this period of switching there is no data transfer possible, it can stay like this for a long time, sya a few minutes not just a few seconds.
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The Galaxy Nexus does this. It switches between H and H+ based on what is being done. If you're not browsing it is on H, and if you're browsing and actively using the connection it switches to H+. My One S doesn't do this at all unless I'm in a fringe area.
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No, it's nothing like that at all. I came from a Nexus S, which had HSPA (not +), and it would switch from 3g to H, and it was never a problem. The issue here is that once it gets to H, it suddenly dies out, switches back to 3g, goes for a sec, dies, switches to 4g, and over and over again. It's nothing like what you're describing, because I'm very familiar with your situation.
In your situation, as you described, it switches based on usage. So, if you're using data a bunch, it'll switch to HSPA+ and stay there until activity dies down. On the One S, it switches back right in the middle of doing data-intensive work. And it ruins the connection.
Let's put it this way: I cant even perform the Speed Test app half the time because the connection gets interrupted and dropped. I've had less than 50% success rate with finishing that test, and I usually only succeed by timing it based on the switching.
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No, it's nothing like that at all. I came from a Nexus S, which had HSPA (not +), and it would switch from 3g to H, and it was never a problem. The issue here is that once it gets to H, it suddenly dies out, switches back to 3g, goes for a sec, dies, switches to 4g, and over and over again. It's nothing like what you're describing, because I'm very familiar with your situation.
In your situation, as you described, it switches based on usage. So, if you're using data a bunch, it'll switch to HSPA+ and stay there until activity dies down. On the One S, it switches back right in the middle of doing data-intensive work. And it ruins the connection.
Let's put it this way: I cant even perform the Speed Test app half the time because the connection gets interrupted and dropped. I've had less than 50% success rate with finishing that test, and I usually only succeed by timing it based on the switching.
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I understand haha and I haven't had a single problem except one place where I frequent is a fringe area and it will go from one bar or "4G" down to 2G but that's about it.
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You sir... are wrong or lying.
nickmv said:
No, it's nothing like that at all. I came from a Nexus S, which had HSPA (not +), and it would switch from 3g to H, and it was never a problem. The issue here is that once it gets to H, it suddenly dies out, switches back to 3g, goes for a sec, dies, switches to 4g, and over and over again. It's nothing like what you're describing, because I'm very familiar with your situation.
In your situation, as you described, it switches based on usage. So, if you're using data a bunch, it'll switch to HSPA+ and stay there until activity dies down. On the One S, it switches back right in the middle of doing data-intensive work. And it ruins the connection.
Let's put it this way: I cant even perform the Speed Test app half the time because the connection gets interrupted and dropped. I've had less than 50% success rate with finishing that test, and I usually only succeed by timing it based on the switching.
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Lets see... HSPA and 3g = the same thing. You claiming your Nexus S switches between H and 3g is total utter BS. The H moniker in the notification bar is ONLY a reference to HSPA+ otherwise known by carriers as 4G.
Nexus S does not, never did, never will, switch between H and 3g. It just doesn't have the hardware. Since you are obviously a liar or just wrong, I discount the rest of your post as well.
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Lets see... HSPA and 3g = the same thing. You claiming your Nexus S switches between H and 3g is total utter BS. The H moniker in the notification bar is ONLY a reference to HSPA+ otherwise known by carriers as 4G.
Nexus S does not, never did, never will, switch between H and 3g. It just doesn't have the hardware. Since you are obviously a liar or just wrong, I discount the rest of your post as well.
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The Nexus S shows H when using the connection and 3G when not.
AOSP sees UMTS as 3G and HSDPA/HSPA/HSPA+ as H. It will sit on UMTS until you are using mobile data, then it will switch to H.
So yes, the phone can switch between 3G and H while being used. HSPA and variants ARE 3G, but are seen as 4G, thus H. It doesn't even sound like you had a Nexus S so how would you even know what the status bar does?
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Lets see... HSPA and 3g = the same thing. You claiming your Nexus S switches between H and 3g is total utter BS. The H moniker in the notification bar is ONLY a reference to HSPA+ otherwise known by carriers as 4G.
Nexus S does not, never did, never will, switch between H and 3g. It just doesn't have the hardware. Since you are obviously a liar or just wrong, I discount the rest of your post as well.
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LOL, with all due respect, you just made yourself look like a fool. If you actually owned a Nexus S or looked up its specifications, it is capable of 7.2mbps HSDPA (H, or sometimes described as 3.5G), whereas UMTS is described at traditional 3G. HSDPA was and has never been considered 3G. It's definitely a step up.
Traditional 3G has never been capable of 7.2mbps downstream. I invite you to do some research here regarding the differences. I'll assume since you had time to time to craft a clever little response, that you can take time to read up on it.
Again, had you actually owned a Nexus S or researched it, you would have found that it typically stays on regular 3G (UMTS...NOT HSPA) when not very active, and switches to H (HSDPA).
Again, had you actually owned a Nexus S or researched it, you would have found that in the System Settings, that network mode is easily found, and either displays HSPA (H/3.5G) or UMTS(3G).
Another links for explanations....scroll to the bottom for this statement
"Three has now backed down and agreed that HSPA+ is not 4G"
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/20...rk-with-42mbps-capable-evolved-hspa-tech.html
SFP said:
Another links for explanations....scroll to the bottom for this statement
"Three has now backed down and agreed that HSPA+ is not 4G"
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/20...rk-with-42mbps-capable-evolved-hspa-tech.html
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I don't think that's ever been up for debate. However, the stock ROM displays HSPA and HSPA+ connections as "4G", and so do some of the modded ROMs. I'm not here for a debate on what's true 4g. This thread has somehow transformed....
Apologies, I wasn't challenging what you'd written, think I'm confused too :rolleyes
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I don't think that's ever been up for debate. However, the stock ROM displays HSPA and HSPA+ connections as "4G", and so do some of the modded ROMs. I'm not here for a debate on what's true 4g. This thread has somehow transformed....
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I'm only here because of the know it all on the first page
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I have this problem with my phone as well. I just want to throw something else out there also.
On my Nexus one when I had CM7 depending on what I was doing it could display 3g change to H. The thing is though that when 3g was displayed you actually had no data connection.
It seems something similar is going on here because the behavior isn't a slow down in the connection speed rather it's an actual break in the connection (downloads stop, speedtest does nothing, etc.)
We might not have a problem with the phone switching back and forth between 3g and 4g. Rather the phone could be switching from 4g to nothing to 4g. Only it's so fast the icons don't display the whole story (this is my personal belief)
You can see the same type of behavior when switching from WCDMA only to GSM Only
It starts at H
Then briefly 3G
Then no letter
Then E
I've tried to find a way to get the phone locked on 3g but I can only get 2g or 4g.
nickmv said:
OK, so as I'm sure some of you are seeing, there's an issue with the HSPA/UMTS switching. Like a LOT. I've tried to do Speed Tests, but simply am not able to, because the connection wants to switch from 3g to 4g and back over and over again.
I wanna see how many of you are aware of this and are fed up with it. It's kind of silly. C'mon HTC.
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I can't remember whether you've mentioned this somewhere else, but what radio are you using? I'm curious as to whether you received a phone that didn't get an updated to release radio? I haven't had any problems.
I'm on 0.16.31501S.02
Also, I NEVER see 3G on my phone. I wonder if that actually helps my situation. I'm mostly always at full 4G, but will sometimes drop to 2G, or even G, depending on whether I'm in a shielded area or passing through a dead zone. I wonder if this could actually be working for me/against you?
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I can't remember whether you've mentioned this somewhere else, but what radio are you using? I'm curious as to whether you received a phone that didn't get an updated to release radio? I haven't had any problems.
I'm on 0.16.31501S.02
Also, I NEVER see 3G on my phone. I wonder if that actually helps my situation. I'm mostly always at full 4G, but will sometimes drop to 2G, or even G, depending on whether I'm in a shielded area or passing through a dead zone. I wonder if this could actually be working for me/against you?
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I only go between 4G and 2G when in fringe areas as well. Haven't seen 3G once.
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Solved my problem
I had the same problem of my Galaxy SII switching back and forth between data types. I had tried putting my iPhone 4 SIM into my Android (with an adapter). Turns out that my problem was with the SIM. I needed a different SIM for this type of phone.
Just positing this in case it helps anyone. Try visiting your carrier and ask for a different SIM.
Flash my T-Mobile ROM and it'll fix the issue.
I have called Sprint on their BS and their horrible 3G.
Evo Shift = EVDO Rev A
Photon Q/iPhone5/newer phones = EVDO Rev B
Ping time on Photon Q = 800ms+ latency
Download speed = 0.02Mbps
Evo Shift = ~300ms latency
Download speed = .5Mbps
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/99267?start=360&tstart=0 <-- iPhone5 users having the same problem.
I switched back to my Evo Shift 4G. Apparently every tower is "down" in my area while they perform the upgrades. OVER IT.
Link above spells it out
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I have called Sprint on their BS and their horrible 3G.
Evo Shift = EVDO Rev A
Photon Q/iPhone5/newer phones = EVDO Rev B
Ping time on Photon Q = 800ms+ latency
Download speed = 0.02Mbps
Evo Shift = ~300ms latency
Download speed = .5Mbps
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/99267?start=360&tstart=0 <-- iPhone5 users having the same problem.
I switched back to my Evo Shift 4G. Apparently every tower is "down" in my area while they perform the upgrades. OVER IT.
Link above spells it out
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One, EVDO Rev B, last I checked, is not on the Photon Q or any LTE phone other than the iPhone 5. Two, EVDO Rev B IS NOT AND WILL NOT BE DEPLOYED BY SPRINT OR VERIZON. All phones connect to EVDO Rev A.
Those speeds and pings are highly varying, make SURE both phones are connected to 3G (EVDO). It seems the Photon Q is connected to 1xRTT rather than EVDO, while the Evo Shift is connected to EVDO.
Yea I've been contemplating returning my Photon Q as well (still have a few more days in the 14-day return period for Costco) or selling it outright. I wish I had made the decision before last Friday when I could have picked up a GS3 for $50...
I have my Evo Shift on craigslist for sale, and thus returned it to stock, but am thinking I may unlock it again, try out CM10 on it, and if it runs well, switch back too. LTE would be nice, and even though I'm in the Atlanta metro, and get LTE speeds driving around, it seems to have dead zones at my house, my buddy's house, my wife's school, and anywhere else I might have the opportunity to use it. I was hoping some of the development would help fix these issues, but I guess I'm too impatient to wait lol. One of the last straws was going to watch a video on collegehumor that wouldn't run on the Q, even with Flash 11.1 sideloaded, but runs fine on my original HTC EVO (which also runs CM10).
Dunno, its a hard choice... the keyboard is really nice, and I'm excited for the free vehicle dock, and the dual core 1.5 is pretty sweet, but there are just too many issues with the thing...
To me the downside of Sprint's network is that the connection seems to drop out often, resulting in the inability to load data at that instant, and probably battery drain... i would think anyway. Does anyone else notice the connection dropping and reconnecting a lot? I felt like i maintained a much more steady connection on T-Mobile's network. And yea, i find Sprint 3G to be pretty slow.
But in the few times i've had strong LTE, i've had the fastest speeds i have ever recorded anywhere!
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One, EVDO Rev B, last I checked, is not on the Photon Q or any LTE phone other than the iPhone 5. Two, EVDO Rev B IS NOT AND WILL NOT BE DEPLOYED BY SPRINT OR VERIZON. All phones connect to EVDO Rev A.
Those speeds and pings are highly varying, make SURE both phones are connected to 3G (EVDO). It seems the Photon Q is connected to 1xRTT rather than EVDO, while the Evo Shift is connected to EVDO.
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Yes, the Photon is NOT getting Evdo (whatever rev) even though it says it does. Both stock and post OTA.
yogi2010 said:
To me the downside of Sprint's network is that the connection seems to drop out often, resulting in the inability to load data at that instant, and probably battery drain... i would think anyway. Does anyone else notice the connection dropping and reconnecting a lot? I felt like i maintained a much more steady connection on T-Mobile's network. And yea, i find Sprint 3G to be pretty slow.
But in the few times i've had strong LTE, i've had the fastest speeds i have ever recorded anywhere!
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I've noticed the exact same thing. When I'm on 3G, the data is fairly regularly just dropping for a second or two at a time, so anything that requires a constant connection (like IRC) will crap out. The few times I've been in 4G, mostly in silicon valley, I've gotten ridiculously fast speeds. Last time I ran a speed test it was like 36MBps down and 20MBps up. I never saw those speeds with Verizon (but that's likely because so many more people were actually using Verizon, too)
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I've noticed the exact same thing. When I'm on 3G, the data is fairly regularly just dropping for a second or two at a time, so anything that requires a constant connection (like IRC) will crap out. The few times I've been in 4G, mostly in silicon valley, I've gotten ridiculously fast speeds. Last time I ran a speed test it was like 36MBps down and 20MBps up. I never saw those speeds with Verizon (but that's likely because so many more people were actually using Verizon, too)
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yeah the dropping connection is terrible, and happens even in a real strong 3G area. could it have anything to do with looking for LTE, or being on the edge of an LTE zone, or just the fact that the whole network is in flux? hopefully it's only temporary 'cuz it's pretty bad... seems real slow too, especially on downloads.
yeah, my record speedtest was 37 MBps down in LTE! i never got 20 up tho. yea, there can't be too many people using Sprint LTE yet, but i've been reading some forums on the site s4gru.com, and supposedly Verizon just raced to cover the nation with LTE, but didn't rebuild their entire network like Sprint is doing. who knows, but at least Sprint LTE seems promising.
yogi2010 said:
yeah the dropping connection is terrible, and happens even in a real strong 3G area. could it have anything to do with looking for LTE, or being on the edge of an LTE zone, or just the fact that the whole network is in flux? hopefully it's only temporary 'cuz it's pretty bad... seems real slow too, especially on downloads.
yeah, my record speedtest was 37 MBps down in LTE! i never got 20 up tho. yea, there can't be too many people using Sprint LTE yet, but i've been reading some forums on the site s4gru.com, and supposedly Verizon just raced to cover the nation with LTE, but didn't rebuild their entire network like Sprint is doing. who knows, but at least Sprint LTE seems promising.
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That is a bug in 77.8 (drop data when changing network mode)
workaround: turn on airplane mode, turn off, or reboot phone.
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That is a bug in 77.8 (drop data when changing network mode)
workaround: turn on airplane mode, turn off, or reboot phone.
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i think these are actually 2 different things, i've been seeing the signal drop/reconnect ever since the original software version. after the update, the 3G icon will disappear(like after a phone call) and won't come back until you toggle airplane mode or it drops and reconnects on it's own(which seems to be often!). but if your 3G icon disappears and you have bars, try and you should see that you can still load data, so i believe that bug since the update is more of a cosmetic thing. at least that's how it is for me, and others have said the same on other forums.
Here's a screenshot where i have no 3G icon but have a perfect data connection!
yogi2010 said:
yeah the dropping connection is terrible, and happens even in a real strong 3G area. could it have anything to do with looking for LTE, or being on the edge of an LTE zone, or just the fact that the whole network is in flux? hopefully it's only temporary 'cuz it's pretty bad... seems real slow too, especially on downloads.
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You're right, that issue actually does have a lot to do with the phone wanting to search for LTE, or trying to prefer LTE when the connection is very weak. The solution? Turn off LTE when you're not in LTE coverage. Not the most elegant or pleasing solution, but that fixes it.
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FinntheViking said:
You're right, that issue actually does have a lot to do with the phone wanting to search for LTE, or trying to prefer LTE when the connection is very weak. The solution? Turn off LTE when you're not in LTE coverage. Not the most elegant or pleasing solution, but that fixes it.
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Yeah, that could be it for me. I switched to CDMA-only a few hours ago and haven't seen the signal drop out once. I'll keep an eye on it tho to make sure. It seems like LTE is creeping in around where i live, so my phone may have been wanting to connect but was just out of range of it.