I was looking at the guide in the development forum, and I noticed step one is S-off, at the moment I only want permanent root on my sensation without S-off, is there a way to do that?
not possible
hmm that's disappointing, but at least it could be done now, thanks mate.
why do you want to avoid S-OFF? now that we have a path back to S-ON i don't see what would be holding you back.
crazy talk said:
why do you want to avoid S-OFF? now that we have a path back to S-ON i don't see what would be holding you back.
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so going back to S-on is no trouble?
reckoner_85 said:
so going back to S-on is no trouble?
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Correct lol
reckoner_85 said:
so going back to S-on is no trouble?
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Why would you want that? Either way, just flash the RUU here for whichever phone you have.
setzer715 said:
Why would you want that? Either way, just flash the RUU here for whichever phone you have.
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well, S-off voids warranty. thanks for the link.
I believe rooting also voids warranty, so you shouldn't be rooting either then.
kirdroid said:
I believe rooting also voids warranty, so you shouldn't be rooting either then.
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true but I reckoned it's sort of easier to unroot.
This is the same concern I have. From what I read, changing back to S-On isn't really that easy for noob like me. That's why all the more apprehensive.
Am thinking of sending my phone into HTC Care Centre to clean the speck of dust under my screen..
Just go to read every thing on : [Guide] to Installing S-off, ClockWork, Root, SuperCID & S-on [03/AUG/11](noobproof)
If you want to S-ON, this advice is for you :
ikhzter said:
YOU MUST Follow this correctly otherwise you could semi-brick your device. If you follow it correctly YOU WILL GET S-ON SUCCESSFULLY -confirmed by other users
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To S-OFF and to Root your phone, it is not very complicated, and after you can use really your phone.
After it is your choice, and it depends on what you want to do with it after.
In my mind, i want to be "adfree" and i want to use "setcpu", so it is enough to Root my phone, and if i have to S-OFF my phone to be "Permanently Root", i do it.
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So I am as excited as everyone else about s-off. Been waiting for awhile, but in the haste of everyone rooting their phone, I haven't been able to find a thread about restoring s-on in case of warranty work. Have I over looked something?
lots of views but no comments. This is from the IRC if interested
<splayer7> sorry if this has been asked, but what about resuming s-on for warranty work?
<hyuh> splayer7: no, not available
splayer7 said:
lots of views but no comments. This is from the IRC if interested
<splayer7> sorry if this has been asked, but what about resuming s-on for warranty work?
<hyuh> splayer7: no, not available
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Exactly what has been said. There is no unrooting or S-On restoring at this time. I would just wait if you haven't already. HTC Released their source codes today. Its only a matter of time before an easier root is available with unroot, and S-on.
Was told that we could s-on by running the RUU. Here's a link to some I've found but haven't tested any of this. http://droidangel.blogspot.com/2011/06/htc-sensation-ruushipped-roms-packaged.html
kevinliu2336 said:
Was told that we could s-on by running the RUU. Here's a link to some I've found but haven't tested any of this. http://droidangel.blogspot.com/2011/06/htc-sensation-ruushipped-roms-packaged.html
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do we have any confirmation on this working correctly
Tried it, resets your ROM but doesn't reset s-off
Guys.. There is about a 25% chance at best that HTC will actually check the boot loader status before providing warranty service. Even if you are unlucky and they do, if you make enough noise they might make an exception and let you off the hook. I think that as long as the issue that you are trying to resolve isn't a direct result of s-off or root, it should be fine.
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So I am as excited as everyone else about s-off. Been waiting for awhile, but in the haste of everyone rooting their phone, I haven't been able to find a thread about restoring s-on in case of warranty work. Have I over looked something?
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Flash an official RUU, and the device will be S-ON! TESTED!
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Flash an official RUU, and the device will be S-ON! TESTED!
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Are you sure man? Somebody else above tested and found the opposite..
If the ruu is left untampered with, the boot image will be replaced with a stock one. Boot image is where your s-off lives. So in theory it should without a doubt work. You just have to make sure the boot image is in the ruu
smoochiezz24 said:
If the ruu is left untampered with, the boot image will be replaced with a stock one. Boot image is where your s-off lives. So in theory it should without a doubt work. You just have to make sure the boot image is in the ruu
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I used the rom.zip file included in an untouched RUU, and I checked it includes HBOOT, also saw version change when I went into HBOOT.
It does NOT reset S-OFF back to S-ON.
I dont know if when you flash it reads S-OFF so keeps it, for users who genuinely had S-OFF?
I have personally tested this, and can confirm that using HTC's stock RUU does not return the phone to S-ON. However, it did remove the top area that says revolutionary, so now it appears as though I have a factory S-OFF device
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
bummer.. I really hope there is a way to reverse s-off, just in case. but then again, I do have insurance so I guess I could say it was 'stolen' if I really need to get it replaced
prank1 said:
For those worrying about warranty issues..
You can try flashing the correct RUU for your phone.
IF that doesn't get rid of -revolutionary- s-off, then you can flash the ENG HBOOT (which gets rid of -revolutionary- but gives you ENG S-OFF) then you can flash the correct RUU for your region (which will definitely get rid of ENG S-OFF, and make you official stock HBOOT S-ON)
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Try flashing ENG HBOOT, then the RUU afterwards.
I am going to try to get my phone back to S-ON now, just to test everything
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Hmm, very odd indeed, after flashing the RUU I have 'stock' Radio S-OFF (no -Revolutionary-) , I tried fastboot oem write secuflag 1 and fastboot oem writecid HTC__001 but I am still Radio S-OFF.
Just so people know, flashing full RUUs, even HBOOTs do NOT get rid of Radio S-OFF. Thats why it is favored by people, it can only be turned S-ON specifically by tools which may be released for the Sensation in the near future. I thought these tools only sent the commands that I tried to change the Radio security status. It would appear not.
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There is no need to worry, Radio S-OFF probably won't void your warranty (if you sent it to a HTC repair center), as long as you have the correct CID and ROM installed you should be fine.
If I remember correctly, with the past Android phones, some people randomly got S-OFF (like sensation users did) out of the box. The HTC repair center didn't care. They don't like custom ROMs, custom HBOOTs, rooted ROMs, etc
My gf has this pile of junk and i wanna root it but can't find anything apart from get an xtc clip. Is there another way to do it yet . I see alpharev also has nothing also
No. Only xtc clip can do it
Pile of junk? Way to get help.
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qbert456 said:
Pile of junk? Way to get help.
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It really is tho so there's no need to beat around the bush
No, there's no way to get S-OFF apart from using a XTC Clip.
What you can get is a temp root while S-ON, but without write permission in system directories.
I'm not sure about this (someone can correct me if I'm wrong), but I believe you can't even flash OTA Factory ROMs without S-OFFing this phone.
It is what it is, if you want a high end android look elsewhere- if you want a keyboard there ain't many options.
It could be better I agree- but junk?
I prefer it to a desire-z that I had before!
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astro11 said:
I'm not sure about this (someone can correct me if I'm wrong), but I believe you can't even flash OTA Factory ROMs without S-OFFing this phone.
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you cannot apply OTA updates, but can flash official RUU using the gold card method
ajeevlal said:
you cannot apply OTA updates, but can flash official RUU using the gold card method
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this question can be really stupid, but what is the difference between OTA updates and official RUUs?
actually, what is the difference between a ROM and a RUU? What does it mean?
Does anyone tried androidadvices.com/root-install-custom-recovery-htc-chacha-tutorial ?
I have simlocked phone, so i don't know, should i try this?
I don't know how to unlock phone, for free?
wanderer_wk said:
Does anyone tried androidadvices.com/root-install-custom-recovery-htc-chacha-tutorial ?
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curious. i'll try this when I go home tonight.
since I'm in Brazil, I had to unlock my phone... paid 10 USD for it. it's just a code, there are a lot of websites which generate them automagically if you send your ChaCha's IMEI and 10 bucks.
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Does anyone tried androidadvices.com/root-install-custom-recovery-htc-chacha-tutorial ?
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That doesn't tell us how to S-OFF. Just install a recovery, which we already have a guide for.
astro11 said:
curious. i'll try this when I go home tonight.
since I'm in Brazil, I had to unlock my phone... paid 10 USD for it. it's just a code, there are a lot of websites which generate them automagically if you send your ChaCha's IMEI and 10 bucks.
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In my country paypal don't work. 10 bucks is not problem, but how to pay 10$ is problem
qzfive said:
That doesn't tell us how to S-OFF. Just install a recovery, which we already have a guide for.
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but we can't install a custom recovery being S-ON. can we?
actually, I'm trying to understand what S-ON users can do... I already know that it's impossible to install OTA ROMs, but it's possible to temproot if you have a specific ROM version.
well, I think I've read so many posts and threads that I'm already confusing the information on my head.
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but we can't install a custom recovery being S-ON. can we?
actually, I'm trying to understand what S-ON users can do... I already know that it's impossible to install OTA ROMs, but it's possible to temproot if you have a specific ROM version.
well, I think I've read so many posts and threads that I'm already confusing the information on my head.
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Truly, you are confused
S-ON users have little power of their mobile device.. They cannot install a custom recovery, a custom rom, a different area/language rom (for example, I cannot install Asia rom on my Europe ChaCha since the CIDs are different) and so on. Yet I find it hard to believe that flashing CWM over the S-ON HBOOT will give you S-OFF. The engineering S-ON is a security flag set for bootloader protection.
If anyone wants to try this, feel free to do it but don't get your hopes up and don't be mad if it won't work. As you can see in the link, on the last page, they have a screenshot with a so called S-OFF'ed device, yet HBOOT is still S-ON. So there is no proof of it.
Anyone tryed this yet?
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Anyone tryed this yet?
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+1!
I am about to try though but as Alex says, they show a picture with the ChaCha still being S-ON.
I am searching in the Netherlands here to get my hands on a clip to S-OFF my ChaCha but so far no luck
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edit: I think the post author just copied the tut posted on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15954564&postcount=1
astro11 said:
No, there's no way to get S-OFF apart from using a XTC Clip.
What you can get is a temp root while S-ON, but without write permission in system directories.
I'm not sure about this (someone can correct me if I'm wrong), but I believe you can't even flash OTA Factory ROMs without S-OFFing this phone.
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It's true. I've tried and tried so many times and it's a no go. I hate S-ON. :'(
ajeevlal said:
you cannot apply OTA updates, but can flash official RUU using the gold card method
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I'll try this next... I hope it works because I just really want my stock ROM back.... My old working stock ROM... Stupid of me not to make a Nandroid backup via CWM when all was working fine.... :'(
Can anyone provide me the image of a s-off Htc Chacha and the same ones s-on?
Hey.
I have a Sensation XE currently on the stock ICS ROM (Android 4.0.3), and root isn't really used by me anymore. I managed to unroot my phone by using the unroot option in SuperSU, now the only thing I want to do is remove ClockworkMod and recover the old stock recovery.
I've tried using the Android Recovery Manager, but it doesn't have my software number of 3.32.401.105.
If anybody could point me in the right direction and give me a noob friendly guide of what to do, I will be forever grateful.:good:
dan24591 said:
Hey.
I have a Sensation XE currently on the stock ICS ROM (Android 4.0.3), and root isn't really used by me anymore. I managed to unroot my phone by using the unroot option in SuperSU, now the only thing I want to do is remove ClockworkMod and recover the old stock recovery.
I've tried using the Android Recovery Manager, but it doesn't have my software number of 3.32.401.105.
If anybody could point me in the right direction and give me a noob friendly guide of what to do, I will be forever grateful.:good:
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i think you need this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
take a look first
rzr86 said:
i think you need this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
take a look first
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Sorry, but what part am I meant to be reading? I am literally a newbie to all of this and I have no clue whatsoever.
dan24591 said:
Sorry, but what part am I meant to be reading? I am literally a newbie to all of this and I have no clue whatsoever.
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download the appropiate RUU for your device
and follow step 3
but first are you S-ON or S-OFF?
rzr86 said:
download the appropiate RUU for your device
and follow step 3
but first are you S-ON or S-OFF?
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Thought so, sorry. I'm S-OFF at the moment but I'm planning to revert back to S-ON. Will I be under warranty if I revert back to S-ON?
dan24591 said:
Thought so, sorry. I'm S-OFF at the moment but I'm planning to revert back to S-ON. Will I be under warranty if I revert back to S-ON?
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if you want to be under warranty yes you have to be S-ON again
i think the appropriate ruu for you is this
RUU_PYRAMID_LE_ICS_35_S_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.105_R_ Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_25196 1_signed.exe
the only thing you have to do is follow the steps
best wishes
rzr86, huge, huge thank you. All done now thanks to the brilliant guide you linked me! A bit of headstress along the way but all worth it in the end. Even got S-ON with ***Locked*** now, so it will be fine for repairs and warranty Thanks again bud!
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rzr86, huge, huge thank you. All done now thanks to the brilliant guide you linked me! A bit of headstress along the way but all worth it in the end. Even got S-ON with ***Locked*** now, so it will be fine for repairs and warranty Thanks again bud!
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only hit the thanks button.really happy for helping mate
i know it is really a headache when you are reading so many tutorials
Do I really have to do the wire trick thing? It just sounds dangerous is all. My HBOOT is 1.27.000 and the phone is running ICS Sense Stock.
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Do I really have to do the wire trick thing? It just sounds dangerous is all. My HBOOT is 1.27.000 and the phone is running ICS Sense Stock.
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Wire trick is necessary. I used a regular paperclip without insulation. If you follow the instructions, then everything will be fine
I'm pretty sure nothing will short circuit and electrocute you, neither will the phone explode
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Wire trick is necessary. I used a regular paperclip without insulation. If you follow the instructions, then everything will be fine
I'm pretty sure nothing will short circuit and electrocute you, neither will the phone explode
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I'm jsut worried I'll damage the phone haha, but I just had no idea where to get a wire like that here But hey, I got tons of paper clips!
KezraPlanes said:
I'm jsut worried I'll damage the phone haha, but I just had no idea where to get a wire like that here But hey, I got tons of paper clips!
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Yeah, nothing bad will happen if all the instructions are followed. I'm sure the hundreds and thousands of sensations that have been s-offed via juopunutbear s-off are completely usable.
All it takes is patience. Some get the wire trick on the first try, some get it hundreds of tries later (took me about 25-30 tries)
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Yeah, nothing bad will happen if all the instructions are followed. I'm sure the hundreds and thousands of sensations that have been s-offed via juopunutbear s-off are completely usable.
All it takes is patience. Some get the wire trick on the first try, some get it hundreds of tries later (took me about 25-30 tries)
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Actually, I think the HTCDEV Unlock thing worked for me.
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Actually, I think the HTCDEV Unlock thing worked for me.
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Yes, but htcdev unlock method only unlocks the bootloader, it doesn't s-off the phone.
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Yes, but htcdev unlock method only unlocks the bootloader, it doesn't s-off the phone.
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Oooooooooooooh... Gosh, HTC is ****ing complicated -.-" Some things never change.
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Oooooooooooooh... Gosh, HTC is ****ing complicated -.-" Some things never change.
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S-off is if you want to flash different firmware or different radio.
You can still do a lot of stuff with an unlocked bootloader though (custom recovery, Roms, mods...)
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S-off is if you want to flash different firmware or different radio.
You can still do a lot of stuff with an unlocked bootloader though (custom recovery, Roms, mods...)
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Sounds totally logical. Also, how do I get the "Juopunutbear" Windows files if they killed support? :/
KezraPlanes said:
Sounds totally logical. Also, how do I get the "Juopunutbear" Windows files if they killed support? :/
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Different people still have the file for windows. Do you need it? I can send you the download link via pm.
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Different people still have the file for windows. Do you need it? I can send you the download link via pm.
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Yeah, that'd be great if you could
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Yeah, that'd be great if you could
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Check your PM's
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If you want to root your phone without to lose your warranty (unlocking the bootloader) you will use Juopunutbear S-OFF guide.If you have not warranty you could unlock the bootloader to root it and then you give it S-OFF if you like.
I got rooted my phone the first day I bought it with wire trick!At first it didn't work for me bat I finally made it.If you want to unlock it with Juopunutbear you must have the latest HTC drivers installed without sync and preferably win7 32bit.
You can flash ROMs without turning S-OFF, I used this guide to do it on my Sensation.
I didn't understand what's S-OFF and S-ON? How I get them,what means and how they help my device?
KrisKatz said:
I didn't understand what's S-OFF and S-ON? How I get them,what means and how they help my device?
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Security on/off. Allows you to access parts of the phone previously off limits.
GOOD: Run any Ruu, change hboot, basically do most anything to your phone.
BAD: Easier to brick your phone, if you make a mistake or something goes wrong.
Look at Moonshine or Facepalm in development section for guides to S-off