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Time to teach an old dog some new tricks. Being an AT&T customer for over 10 years it should come as no surprise that I'm an absolulte stranger to 4G . I have few questions though and hope someone can steer a little 4G knowledge my way.
1) When 4G hits will we need to be on a stock rom and radio?
2) For those of you already in HSPA areas (lucky bastards) what kind of speeds are you experiencing.
Thanks in advance
I think when 4g hits all we will need is a new sim card but I could be wrong
ATT runs hspa+ as "4g", which will go to 21Mbps, then 42Mbps. Then ATT will roll out LTE as real 4g soon too, which will be a whole new network, new frequencies, and need new phone hardware antennas and radio. LTE speeds can go very high, talking about 100Mbps eventually.
pavaccar said:
I think when 4g hits all we will need is a new sim card but I could be wrong
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I think the sim card stuff is hokey. I'm more worried about custom Roms and radios. Like will we be able to run CM7 when 4G drops.
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lrs421 said:
I think the sim card stuff is hokey. I'm more worried about custom Roms and radios. Like will we be able to run CM7 when 4G drops.
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Yep we will need a lte phone and 4g sim. HSPA + will work fine on different roms. Dallas has it and ive gotten speeds over 6 dl. Stock radio and custom rom.
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klquicksall said:
Yep we will need a lte phone and 4g sim. HSPA + will work fine on different roms. Dallas has it and ive gotten speeds over 6 dl. Stock radio and custom rom.
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That's the feedback I was after. 6mb, nice!
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Well ATT's current hspa will be able to go up to 42Mbps when they turn it on. Look at current t-mobile speeds, its the same technology and they run 21Mbps with users seeing 9Mbps in select areas, and higher. So same applies to ATT.
I am in southern california, supposed "4G" coverage area; only get between
500k to 1.5mb/s. Stock rom and rooted, same result. Att blows.
divinewisdom said:
I am in southern california, supposed "4G" coverage area; only get between
500k to 1.5mb/s. Stock rom and rooted, same result. Att blows.
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That sucks. I feel your pain.
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divinewisdom said:
I am in southern california, supposed "4G" coverage area; only get between
500k to 1.5mb/s. Stock rom and rooted, same result. Att blows.
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Did you edit your build.prop to enable higher data speeds?
kirk123 said:
Did you edit your build.prop to enable higher data speeds?
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thats my next step. I am using TPC optimized stock rom, which should have some build prop edit to it already, but will try to tweak it some more and see the reaults. I doubt I will see anything over 3mbs....
What's your build prop settings
klquicksall said:
Yep we will need a lte phone and 4g sim. HSPA + will work fine on different roms. Dallas has it and ive gotten speeds over 6 dl. Stock radio and custom rom.
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Chicago here, I get 6 down and 1.5 up on non-peak data times. I don't think the sim card is a non-issue considering that hspa+ is just an evolved 3g technology. I can't wait for a more consistent speed, even though I use wifi most of the time. I am using cognition hd right now and still getting these speeds.
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divinewisdom said:
thats my next step. I am using TPC optimized stock rom, which should have some build prop edit to it already, but will try to tweak it some more and see the reaults. I doubt I will see anything over 3mbs....
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Here in socal I see 3 Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up.
Recently i bought the Inspire 4G from USA through Ebay
and found that the only network i can use to be connected to the internet is GPRS
I started wondering if this phone support the UK network (HSPA)
i'm currently using Three (UK)' 3G network, my HTC Legend works fine with HSPA
Does Inspire 4G support HSPA?? or only HSPA+??
You have to play around with the apn there is a whole thread about it
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mohkg said:
You have to play around with the apn there is a whole thread about it
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u mean that's the problem with my APN settings?
So how can i find the correct settings then??
The DHD and Inspire 4G are one in the same with a few minor differences. If you've s-off and downgraded, you can directly flash the new stock Desire HD Gingerbread ROM without all the bloatware from here. You will have to root using Gingerbreak, then install the tinny audio fix from here. Works like a champ. Of course, there's all the DHD GB ROM's based on that same kernel which can be flashed using CWM. Lot's of options here...none include the stock AT&T ROM.
so you are saying that the problem can be fixed by flashing a new DHD rom??but not the own problem of inspire 4G?
Yup...give it a whirl. AT&T ROM's are preloaded with their own APN and do not allow you to use the built-in network configuration utility at first boot. Just downgrade and s-off first. It used to be that the original shipping DHD ROM's would cause the I4G to lose audio. Now it's just a bit tinny which some do not like.
i tried this before, it doesn't work, there is still only GPRS network
i even flashed the latest radio just now, but it just doesn't show the "H" icon at the top!!!!
please brothers, i am also facing the same problem in middle east using inspire 4g with vodafone sim card. mine is rooted inspire 4g and i couldn'd get the 3g connection.
Hmmm...unless the radio hardware is different, and I don't think it is, I don't know what the situation is. You flashed the whole ROM right?
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This thread has so much wrong info in it.
The Inspire 4G will NEVER work with European UMTS(3G) bands. Only EDGE. The reason is frequency. The USA uses 850/1900 for UMTS. The EU uses 900/2100. There is no way to change this.
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id10terrordfw said:
This thread has so much wrong info in it.
The Inspire 4G will NEVER work with European UMTS(3G) bands. Only EDGE. The reason is frequency. The USA uses 850/1900 for UMTS. The EU uses 900/2100. There is no way to change this.
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right. I was just about to post this.
+1 read the nitty gritty specifications before plunking down hundreds of dollars on these things.
yes, flashed wholly
i'm so helpless now....
problem can't be fixed??
popstar2046 said:
i'm so helpless now....
problem can't be fixed??
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No you wont ever get 3g with the inspire in Europe. It only has American 3g bands.
I don't know why this thread got so many replies with nobody saying this, but it lacks the hardware for your country. Sorry.
OK...the European ROM flashes to the Inspire, radio and all, and HSPA works in the US without a hiccup. How does the DHD radio firmware work here if the hardware is different? I'm assuming that the same firmware works on both phones but the hardware to receive the 900/2100 mhz band is missing. Oh well, learn something new every day.
FWIW, you may try changing your band on the phone by using engineering mode *#*#4636#*#* and seeing if you can play around with network preferences. Other than that, I think the guys above must be right.
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Other than that, I think the guys above must be right.
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We are.
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dear friends, wht abt midlle east gsm frequency gsm800/1800 mhz. can i use 3g data here.???? pls pls... reply me.
any hardware issue can be done??
I have updated my mytouch 4g from rc4 to the stable release (7.0.3) and since updating I have noticed a horrible reception issue. Before the update I had 4g almost everywhere and of I didn't I had 3g , now I barely ever have a 4g signal and when I do it bounces from 4g to 3g finally down to edge sometimes it will even drop to having no signal at all. I'm not sure if I posted this in the correct thread I'm new to this site so any help would be greatly aprreciated. ;D
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I'm assuming you're talking about CM7. There is no specific 4G icon for CM. You will get an H when actively using HSPDA/HSPA+, and it will say 3G otherwise. You will see an E on 2G.
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I know, but the problem I am having is the phone can't keep a steady signal this has only started happening since the update to the stable release.
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I've tried WCDMA Preferred and GSM Auto (PRL) but I am constantly losing 4G switching back and forth in areas I have never had a problem.
Download the app called 'Network' in the Android market and set it to WCDMA only.
That isn't a solution but why wouldn't I just set it in the testing mode? Why download another app?
I lose 4g often too....and I go down to 2g....what happened to 3g? My old prepaid Cricket phone had a consistent 3g signal all over Tucson, while the 4g is really fast, it isn't reliable, and almost (almost) makes me wanna go back on cricket.
this radio is garbage.
my g2 was piss poor with 4g and this one is even worse.
I can watch it sit on the table and go from full bars of 4g to 2 bars of 2g/edge and STAY there.
sorry for the uninformed question, but is this something that can be fixed in a new rom, or mod?
I added data tweaks to my roms. I don't have any issues.
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Undeadk9 said:
I added data tweaks to my roms. I don't have any issues.
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Mind sharing?
It's not the radio. It's more likely the 4G signal in your area. I am in Atlanta and I have full bar 4G almost everywhere I go. At home it will drop down to 2G but I have wifi there.
As for 3G, this is a 4G radio. We're you joking about the 3G expectations?
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_atlien_ said:
It's not the radio. It's more likely the 4G signal in your area. I am in Atlanta and I have full bar 4G almost everywhere I go. At home it will drop down to 2G but I have wifi there.
As for 3G, this is a 4G radio. We're you joking about the 3G expectations?
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Point #1 - You are incorrect. I am saturated with T-Mos "fake" 4G coverage and have never had a phone drop it like this one does.
Point #2 - What are you asking the other posted about 3G expectations. This phone doesn't have a 4G radio. T-Mo doesn't have 4G. They have 3G that they market as 4G.
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Point #1 - You are incorrect. I am saturated with T-Mos "fake" 4G coverage and have never had a phone drop it like this one does.
Point #2 - What are you asking the other posted about 3G expectations. This phone doesn't have a 4G radio. T-Mo doesn't have 4G. They have 3G that they market as 4G.
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Everyone has "fake" 4G coverage. LTE isn't technically classified as "4G" either, the specification calls for rates of at least 100/mbps. T-Mobile currently has faster and more widespread pre-4G coverage than any other carrier, and the phone does have a pre-4G radio. The phone does support HSDPA at rates up to 21Mbps, and does is in fact have a pre-4G radio. And as far as my other comment not being a solution, have you tried it before bashing it? I've had plenty of luck with that solution personally and I figured it would be kind of me to share, but I suppose I stand corrected.
Undeadk9 said:
I added data tweaks to my roms. I don't have any issues.
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Yes. Thanks to your roms, I have signal in places I never had before (like the bathroom at work. I can now surf while doing my "business" and important "paper work" in my "office", ya know.?
while i poop.
What are data tweaks?
I have noticed like the iPhone 4 that if you touch that metal peice on the back around the camera the signal drops. I got a case that covers that up and that fixed all my 4g signal problems. My phone stays on 4g most of the time where I am. The T-Mobile network where I live works very well though.
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hah2110 said:
Mind sharing?
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Sure I will share, go to the MT4GS Android Development and try my Doubleshot v1.2.0, or try my Senseless v2.1.0. Both are stable.
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I added a flashable zip in the dev section to CURE this issue. Hit my thanks button.
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If you are on the tmobile network, you can't get 3g anymore if your phone is a 4g phone. It's either 4g or 2g.
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have all HSDPA towers been upgraded to HSDPA+?
Or does the phone just recognize all HSDPA as '4G'?
Climbguy said:
have all HSDPA towers been upgraded to HSDPA+?
Or does the phone just recognize all HSDPA as '4G'?
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It recognizes all HSDPA as '4G', I have full signal in certain areas with a '4G' icon but get speeds around 1Mbps and when I check the actual signal with third-party apps it is registered as HSDPA.
i think u guys got bad apples cause i always get 4g an my friend wit the same phone has 4g all the time
So as of last night my Sensation 4G has been stuck on EDGE for some odd reason, nothing changed I had been using Virtuous Inquisition, I tried flashing Quattro to see if it was a ROM problem but nope its still here only now i a random H icon every now and then?
Anybody int he Los Angeles area having this problem?
im on the latest radio
H stands for HSDPA, which is the (faux)-4G that T-mobile uses. That's the standard symbol in Europe, however T-mobile uses the 4G symbol instead. You should be able to find a tweak that changes the symbols back from H to 4G, but otherwise I don't think you are stuck on EDGE.
I understand that HSPA is Tmobiles "4G" i always used to get H and the associated speeds. But randomnly 2 days ago my phone will only get up to EDGE speeds, last night after messing with it for a long time I randomnly got 15 minutes of the phone staying on "H" or 4g,
I tried everything I can and can't find the root of the problem.
I came up with a fix (sorta) for now
I went into the *#*#4636#*#* menu
and changed the preferred network type to WCDMA only
this seems to have corrected the problem, but now whenever i go out of tmobiles spotty HSPA coverage I have no service at all?
can anybody give me some insight as to what my problem maybe
Correct apn settings?
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What do you mean by correct APN settings exactly?
I've deleted all APN settings and Reset to Default Twice, but no luck
Switch back to wcdma and gsm preferred. Check apns again. Possibly being throttled by your carrier by chance?
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maybe u recently changed your radio?
nope last time i changed radio/firmware or anything was when i updated to 3.24 for Virtous Quattro,
do you think reflashing the firmware or downgrading to 3.12 would work?
Oh lol. That rom doesnt support 4g. U need to get on with virtuous inquisition. Sooooo much better trust me. Guarentee you will have H "4g"
Superwipe then flash inquisition v3
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nope last time i changed radio/firmware or anything was when i updated to 3.24 for Virtous Quattro,
do you think reflashing the firmware or downgrading to 3.12 would work?
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where did you get that information from?
i had quattro before and H "4G" worked
i had Inquisition up until last night because the EDGE problem started on inquisition
sry for that. I had the issue on inquisition but it fixed itself
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im going to give it some time, which is all i can really do at the moment anyways.
Maybe its just your network provider?
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You can always flash a different radio.
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could you recommend a good Radio for TMOUS, for ICS roms
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Maybe its just your network provider?
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I called TMobile they weren't helpful they just gave me the whole pull the battery out speech, and said I should be getting 4G speeds, and that they were going to pass the problem on to their engineers and the problem should be resolved in 48 hours if not call back,,, im not pinning my hopes on that working out though
NOOB Question
can i use the older GB radios on an ICS Rom?
or rather will a GB radio work properly with an ICS Rom