I posted this same thread on the Nexus S forum, hoping to get the other side of the story here.
Hi, I'm leaving for college the 17th, and want to get my upgrade before I leave. Originally, I was gunning for the Atrix, but the Pentile Display, Motoblur, and poor software/hardware integration were deal breakers. So, I've narrowed it down to the Samsung Infuse 4G, and the Samsung Nexus S, and might exchange them within the 30 day period if the Samsung Galaxy S II comes out.
I'm just going to list the pros and cons for each, as I see them, and if any of you can provide feedback (especially those on AT&T) that would be great.
Nexus S
+Pure Google/Stock Android
+Will get Ice Cream Sandwich
+SAMOLED
+Community backing
+4" Screen
-1GHZ Cortex A8
-No Guerrilla Glass (don't know if that's a deal breaker)
-Supposed radio problems on AT&T
Infuse 4G
++SAMOLED+
+Battery Life
+Infused ROM provides stock Gingerbread
+1.2GHZ Cortex A8
+Thin/light (helps offset screen size)
+ Guerrilla Glass
>4G, then again this is AT&T
-4.5" Screen
-Might not get Ice Cream Sandwich
I'll use the phone for web browsing, email, messaging, calling, a video or 2 on the go maybe, occasional doc editing/tweaking, apps for weather, news, etc. Not big on the 3D gaming really.
Thanks!
Infuse all the way, the nexus doesn't even have 720 p video recording and there is something else about the phone memory, either internal or external SD card only, can't remember which
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it has a 16 Gb internal memory. nothing else.
stock android doesn't support 2 SD cards, 720p video, pictures above 5mp, and the screen isn't as good nor does it have hspa+ and mhl. the nexus has great development and is fast as hell but you may as well have a nexus 1. the thing is a nexus s can play 1080p video but there is no way to get that to a TV other than dlna over wifi and in that case the TV or device hooked to it may have a video player and only be reading the file in the first place. other than the apparent snappiness of the nexus there isn't much purpose to it.
a nexus1 can feel just as snappy with cm7. and doesn't give up much, it is also easier to root, has a cool track ball, multi color led notifications and is very pocketable, it only lacks the 3d gaming power of the nexus s and the infuse.
the infuse though not as snappy with 2.2.1 has 720p video, is easily rooted, has HDMI, can play 1080p out to the TV (many micro HDMI devices only output 720p) the screen is awesome, the mms app is more feature rich (stock android really needs a 3rd party mms app). it has 13gigs SD that is expandable with an additional 32, 8mp pictures (no real point to this since the lense isn't great) 720p recording, and is one of the thinest phones out there.
I'm sure if you ask on the nexus forum they will give you every reason the infuse advantages are not as important as speed and open development. you decide.
Doesn't Nexus S only support Tmo's 3G bands?
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Doesn't Nexus S only support Tmo's 3G bands?
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there are nexus phones for Canada that work on att (the major Canadian providers mostly use identical frequencies, bell and tellus and roger roms and modems worked great on the captivate) plus there should be an actual att varient. be carefully though some of the Canadian providers got the i9023 not the i9020. the i9020 varients(there is a letter suffix that designates what provider it works on) are the ones with the sampled screen. the i9023 varients have a super LCD, read the nexus forums different models and OS versions have different root proceedures and they all need adb, i don't remember seeing shell or batch scripts to make rooting easier.
Take the Nexus S and run. Far away.
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Doesn't Nexus S only support Tmo's 3G bands?
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The nexus s was released on att july 24th. To be honest, I don't care about the cameras or sd cards or even hdmi. Mainly screen, software, build, performance, and how it performs as a phone.
sounds like an easy decision then, the att model appears to be an i9020t not an i9023 that should mean that it will have a samoled screen and not a superlcd like some of the Canadian And foreign models have.
i think if i wanted just a phone I'd get a nexus 1 off ebay instead, the trackball is a nice feature and so is the multi color led notifications. just saying.
if the 4.5" screen is a con for you, just get the nexus s
Both have pros and cons, just keep in mind, if you plan on swapping during the 30 day return time line you'll be charged a restocking fee. Not sure about bestbuy and suck but att does impose a restocking fee. I'm sure its not much but its still something to consider.
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Both have pros and cons, just keep in mind, if you plan on swapping during the 30 day return time line you'll be charged a restocking fee. Not sure about bestbuy and suck but att does impose a restocking fee. I'm sure its not much but its still something to consider.
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No they don't. Apple does.
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if the 4.5" screen is a con for you, just get the nexus s
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first person ive seen say the 4" screen is better than the 4.5".
also the nexus s does have gorilla glass. the hardware in the infuse is better in any way. and we will make whatever future versions of android work on our phones.
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No they don't. Apple does.
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-4.5" Screen
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I'll use the phone for web browsing, email, messaging, calling, a video or 2 on the go maybe, occasional doc editing/tweaking, apps for weather, news, etc. Not big on the 3D gaming really.
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If you'd rather use a SMALLER screen for those things, then get a blackberry. If you don't want to strain your eyes trying to watch torrented versions of the Honeymooners, then get the Infuse.
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If you'd rather use a SMALLER screen for those things, then get a blackberry. If you don't want to strain your eyes trying to watch torrented versions of the Honeymooners, then get the Infuse.
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I'm coming from a blackberry, but since my school uses gapps I liked the integration android provides, as well as touch screen for browsing. I'm Worried about using the phone with one hand with a screen that size. It's a small thing, not a deal breaker.
The 4.5" is absolutely a con. 4.3" is perfect, but I'd take the 4" over the 4.5".
Assuming the same resolution of course. Bigger screens without bigger resolutions are just blurrier and more pixelated.
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Personally 4.5 screen is a plus, but i have huge hands. Lol
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screensize aside, are there any other advantages or disadvantages/defects with the Infuse?
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The 4.5" is absolutely a con. 4.3" is perfect, but I'd take the 4" over the 4.5".
Assuming the same resolution of course. Bigger screens without bigger resolutions are just blurrier and more pixelated.
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Guessing by your "con" you quoted my post "no they don't, apple does" I thought you were talking about pros and cons, but I'm assuming your talking about restocking fees, if so att will charge a restocking fee in you choose to exchange or return. Unless the sales rep lied to me.
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Hi guys Rogers is getting the captivate next week is it worth the switch?
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Rogers has had the captivate for almost a year?
I don't understand your question.
I think he means rogers is getting the nexus s next week. Wondering if its worth the switch from captivate.
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Lol that's right
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I think he means rogers is getting the nexus s next week. Wondering if its worth the switch from captivate.
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I've wondered the same thing. I bought my cappy off contract and now have an upgrade choice. Dont think its worth using my upgrade. Gonna wait for something better later (sgs2? )
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Ya I got mine week ago so I have option to return it since there is so many problems and battery life I don't like.
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I'd say get it. It has native gingerbread and a front facing camera. And Google support so you know it will get updates on time!
All the great roms on this forum have made my phone enjoyable. If you aren't into flashing custom roms and all that, you probably should take it back. But dont get the nexus s. I'd say wait and se what the xperia arc reviews are like. That should be launching next month. Looks like a nice phone, except the locked bootloader.
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But if you are looking for a more customizable phone, get the nexus s.
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Ya ibhave x10 not much fun cause of lock bootloader and my cappy running di11is rom
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But if you are looking for a more customizable phone, get the nexus s.
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If you have an upgrade, wait for something that is significantly better than the captivate. The Nexus S is almost the same phone with some minor differences... We'll have GB eventually anyway.
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but what I think he means is that he can return his captivate because he just got it. Then buy nexus s next week. I'd suggest doing that if possible. My 2 cents anyways
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Lol thank you and also thanks for translating. You read my mind haha
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but what I think he means is that he can return his captivate because he just got it. Then buy nexus s next week. I'd suggest doing that if possible. My 2 cents anyways
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Nexus S seems to have a locked bootloader(as mentioned), but another strike against it for me is no card slot: you are essentially stuck with 16GB, which should be enough for most people but it's nice to have to option to expand. Add to that an inability to shoot HD video and a less-flexible camera software and the Captivate still has the edge. You'd be better off holding out for some of the juicier dual-core whizbangs coming out this summer.
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If you have an upgrade, wait for something that is significantly better than the captivate. The Nexus S is almost the same phone with some minor differences... We'll have GB eventually anyway.
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Captivate already has GB, through CM7.
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Captivate already has GB, through CM7.
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you and many other people need to be corrected (your sig included)
CM7 is NOT stock 2.3.3
it is built off the stock but MODIFIED. it is not stock gingerbread. its is CM's mod of gingerbread.
and on top of that it is still beta.
short answer is captivate is for users and nexus is for developers. the proprietary drivers on galaxy s phones are quite nice with hd video recording and some other things, also like the lockscreens and notification bars that incorperate the music player. but the advantages of samsung software come at a cost. the bluetooth 3.0 driver limits the usefulness, ie very few game controllers work. gingerbread also has obvious performance advantages on the hummingbird chip. but i believe the graphics benchmark in quadrant crashes because the 3d drivers are not designed to work with something in quadrant.
neither is a bad phone for most people, they are both the better looking of the galaxy s series with no iphone like bezels and each has a uniquness. things like hd video are over rated because the sensor isn't quite good enough so 720p recording comes out a little darker, better for a bright day really. and the graphical advantages of the captivate are not important to most because the powervr540 chp is so far ahead of the curve in the first place. run graphical benchmarks on a captivate vs any other phone and you will see better frame rates and the picture quality is far better, but there are many reasons to look at other phones.
the advantages of the nexus are also not make or break, from a user standpoint you would have a hard time coming up with an advantage to gingerbread. it is faster but is the captivate slow? well it can hang briefly in some situations but i was using a live display at bestbuy, it was butter smooth and was still on jf7, no froyo. i think the lag is a myth and total placebo effect perpetuated by reading this forum, the power of suggestion goes a long way. jf6 may have been a buggy rom but the later models are not that bad.
the wp7 htc surround was showing the connect to pc sign, lol even there phones have a bsod equivelant, and the nexus s was locked up, needed a battery pull but that would set off the alarm so they left it that way.
if it comes down to making the decision decide based on feature set and ui. if you like twiz smart dialer feature and sweeping contact menus and music player or if you have a big library of high quality music recodings (cd quality or better) and need all the storage posible then get a cappy, if you like to video chat or prefer an aosp rom or gaming via external controller then go for the nexus.
if i was to make a perfect phone it would be the nexus plus an hdmi port sd expansion slot and twiz dialer contacts and music player and samsung video drivers, i think the nexus looks better but i still envy phones with hdmi and the next generation of samsung phones are supposed to have a wireless equivalent to hdmi, not dlna that only plays files but a wireless link that transfers whats on your screen, this disappoints me because then you need a tv with the technology or a reciever. samsung tries too much to bring new things to the market without supporting old ways of doing things, a phone that can transmit hd but doesnt have hdmi is useless to most people, adding a new technology is great but taking out the world standard just reduces the usefulness. this is what happened with bt 3.0. ok wow it has a new bluetooth version great, but the bluetooth stack doesnt work with popular products on the market, although it is backwards compatable with bt 2.1 it lacks a meathod to pair certain products. not cool samsung! te same will happen to the galaxy s 2 and i would like to see if the infuse has hdmi. if it does i may get the infuse despite the galaxy s 2 being technically better. if no hdmi i will hold on to the cappy till something else comes out that i get excited over, maybe an htc if samsung doesnt get support for drm built into the chipset that is compatable with netflix.
I would wait for something better than the captivate.
The nexus S really isn't much better overall then the captivate, and has some major downsides.
If you just got the captivate and the question is whether to return it, then it depends what you need. For me the deal breaker is no SD card slot, and since I store all my music on my phone, I need the extra storage. The Nexus S on the other hand, has better long-term support, if you consider that google still updates the Nexus 1.
The Captivate has enough problems that I would not buy one again, especially given that it is almost a year old and there are much better, newer phones. That said, I am not in a hurry to upgrade because I already went through the pain of having the TIB replaced and the remaining problems (no front-facing camera, no led indicator, mediocre battery life) are not bad enough to justify blowing a bunch of money before the end of my contract.
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The Captivate has enough problems that I would not buy one again, especially given that it is almost a year old and there are much better, newer phones. That said, I am not in a hurry to upgrade because I already went through the pain of having the TIB replaced and the remaining problems (no front-facing camera, no led indicator, mediocre battery life) are not bad enough to justify blowing a bunch of money before the end of my contract.
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I think thats really what it comes down to. Sure the cappy has problems, but most are fixed, all that is left are any hardware you want which it lacks (like a front-facing camera). Under these conditions, the phones on the market right now just aren't appealing enough. We're just starting to see tegra and dual core devices, so certainly waiting a year or more for these devices to become the standard is a good idea. Right now the cappy is a high-end phone, and the dual cores currently aren't much better. Waiting until there is a real difference is key.
I've got a year and a half before I can upgrade, but I know by the time that rolls around, there will be some very good devices on the market. And honestly, captivate development isn't slowing. we're getting 2.3, and it's smooth as butter on our device.
I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.
Dual core
1 gig of ram
It's only slightly smaller - actually feels better in your hand.
Gingerbread 2.3.4 from the carrier
Better GPS lock
I'm still wondering if it has the chip needed for voodoo sound though...
It's not a huge difference but you get gingerbread out the box, touchwiz 4.0, dual core, 1080p recording, hdmi(infuse as well), thx soluscado totally slipped my mind, etc. The infuse is ok but i'm probably getting rid of mine. The checkered loading is driving me crazy.
I agree with the OP. The dual core proc seems like a "meh" addition, especially considering the battery trade-off. I just don't use TouchWiz anyway, so that's irrelevant. The bigger screen is a BIG deal to me, and any video I take with my phone is displayed on my phone, so 1080p recording is irrelevant. I'm pretty sure you get HDMI out on the Infuse as well, but I have no use for that either. And the Gingerbread enhancements are so minor (to me) that I really couldn't care less whether it's available OOB or not.
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I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.
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What you said.
Yea no point. I'll stick with my infuse until samsung releases an lte phone on att like ours or the s2. Or wait for googles next phone and hope that is lte as well.
Dual core is not enough reason to upgrade, I want real 4g speeds.
Infuse running Serendipity VII
If the GPS chip is better than that of the infuse then I'm switching. I use the GPS more than anything else on the phone and that is a deal breaker for me. If the infuse had a perfect working GPS, I'd take it over the s2 anyday.
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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Lol but auto text on it is a total fail.... Hopefully you guys understand.
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I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?
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I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?
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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though
I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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Mine is def a netter lock then on my infuse.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.
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It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.
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It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.
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If its anything like the Euro version it has 839mb ram for the user.
And I agree Mikey it is probably the best Android phone out there!
Do we know if its ddr2 ram? What about the i/o tech? That LG is dual something or other.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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Report back after you have held and used one!
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Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010?
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I said 2010 on purpose. That's where single core Froyo phones belong.
Here is why I love my G2x OVER the Galaxy Nexus
1) I have this phone on a two year contract
2) HDMI Port, as small as it is, I don't want to use a dongle or any crap thing like that to hook up my phone as an hdmi output
2) Micro SD Card. They didn't mention it....and I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung left this out.....such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1
3) 8MP Camera, the camera on the G2x is SOLID. If LG could just get their as*es in gear and get this working fully on a new Ice Cream Sandwich rom.
4) The Nexus is better only because of the Super AMOLED and Ice Cream Sandwich. I personally can live without the AMOLED and I know for a fact if LG doesn't update to Ice Cream Sandwich that the Awesome Devs here will.
First person that has a full working ICS rom for the G2x I am donating too, and I would suggest others do as well, This is how we keep the G2x on top.
The G2x is a BEAST.....And I love that I picked this phone.
Thanks to all the support from the Devs, can't wait to see the wicked work you guys put into this next generation of Android.
If LG was smart they would get a beta test of Ice Cream Sandwich out on this phone like yesterday. This phone can take on the NExUS
What's all of your thoughts? Still glad you have the G2x? Think it's better than the Nexus?
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Here is why I love my G2x OVER the Galaxy Nexus
1) I have this phone on a two year contract
2) HDMI Port, as small as it is, I don't want to use a dongle or any crap thing like that to hook up my phone as an hdmi output
2) Micro SD Card. They didn't mention it....and I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung left this out.....such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1
3) 8MP Camera, the camera on the G2x is SOLID. If LG could just get their as*es in gear and get this working fully on a new Ice Cream Sandwich rom.
4) The Nexus is better only because of the Super AMOLED and Ice Cream Sandwich. I personally can live without the AMOLED and I know for a fact if LG doesn't update to Ice Cream Sandwich that the Awesome Devs here will.
First person that has a full working ICS rom for the G2x I am donating too, and I would suggest others do as well, This is how we keep the G2x on top.
The G2x is a BEAST.....And I love that I picked this phone.
Thanks to all the support from the Devs, can't wait to see the wicked work you guys put into this next generation of Android.
If LG was smart they would get a beta test of Ice Cream Sandwich out on this phone like yesterday. This phone can take on the NExUS
What's all of your thoughts? Still glad you have the G2x? Think it's better than the Nexus?
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Your reasoning is slightly retarded
1- you should love when ur not on contract...keeps options open.
2- really? 16-32 gb is plenty especially with cloud based services on the horizon
3-wow....samsung makes some of the best cameras on mobiles. MP don't determine everything...
4- amoled....isp close enough for me.....but without source ICS might be tough
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Your reasoning is slightly retarded
1- you should love when ur not on contract...keeps options open.
2- really? 16-32 gb is plenty especially with cloud based services on the horizon
3-wow....samsung makes some of the best cameras on mobiles. MP don't determine everything...
4- amoled....isp close enough for me.....but without source ICS might be tough
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32gb is less than my g2x. i have a 100GB music collection and i'd like to take as much with me as possible; g2x has onboard storage (4GB? 8GB?) on top of my 32GB card. 8GB makes a huge difference, especially when there will likely be no expandable memory.
true, MP doesn't mean everything. but isn't this very similar, if not basically the same camera as the nexus s? even if the camera performs well, i think it's a little cheap to not give it a 3MP bump to 8MP.
Cool 100gb of music.....if your not using spotify to stream amd trying to put 100gb of mudic on a mobile your an idiot.....true the bump in the cam would be nice...but if they had to squeeze a smaller sensor to pack in all the other goodies then ill take it...
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Cool 100gb of music.....if your not using spotify to stream amd trying to put 100gb of mudic on a mobile your an idiot.....true the bump in the cam would be nice...but if they had to squeeze a smaller sensor to pack in all the other goodies then ill take it...
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Streaming and cloud services are great...
Except every US carrier except Sprint limits your data usage and Sprint quite possibly is going to as well.
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Cool 100gb of music.....if your not using spotify to stream amd trying to put 100gb of mudic on a mobile your an idiot.....true the bump in the cam would be nice...but if they had to squeeze a smaller sensor to pack in all the other goodies then ill take it...
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if you're going to try to call me an idiot, please do so with proper grammar. it's a bit hard to take you seriously when you can't even present yourself intelligibly.
clearly, i don't put 100GB of music on my mobile; it was merely an example. the GN skimped on storage, plain and simple. the iPhone gets a lot of flack for being slightly behind the technological curve but even now, it's offered in 64GB. why is this not the same? a bit lacking if you ask me. android phones have come out and absolutely destroyed the iPhone's specifications. i expected a lot more from google and samsung if this was truly going to be a revolutionary phone. it's clearly not.
also, an 8MP sensor is barely larger than a 5MP sensor; that's far from a reasonable excuse for not including it, especially considering how huge the handset is. with EU prices announced, the intention clearly wasn't to make the smartphone cheap. this is the new flagship device for the entire android platform- i can't be alone in being disappointed.
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if you're going to try to call me an idiot, please do so with proper grammar. it's a bit hard to take you seriously when you can't even present yourself intelligibly.
clearly, i don't put 100GB of music on my mobile; it was merely an example. the GN skimped on storage, plain and simple. the iPhone gets a lot of flack for being slightly behind the technological curve but even now, it's offered in 64GB. why is this not the same? a bit lacking if you ask me. android phones have come out and absolutely destroyed the iPhone's specifications. i expected a lot more from google and samsung if this was truly going to be a revolutionary phone. it's clearly not.
also, an 8MP sensor is barely larger than a 5MP sensor; that's far from a reasonable excuse for not including it, especially considering how huge the handset is. with EU prices announced, the intention clearly wasn't to make the smartphone cheap. this is the new flagship device for the entire android platform- i can't be alone in being disappointed.
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IMO, the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus were intentionally gimped by Samsung in order to sell their own, Touchwiz based handsets instead.
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+1. IMO your main reason is money. Cos clearly, the next Nexus will probably be thee best phone in the market once its released. I bet if you had the money to buy the Galaxy Nexus you wouldn't say that about the G2x.
And yes i do love my G2X but Technology is way too fast to keep up with...so there will always be better phones than our beloved G2X.
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Except every US carrier except Sprint limits your data usage and Sprint quite possibly is going to as well.
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I doubt that, unlimited data is pretty much their only selling point at the moment.
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Don't u all think the nexus should have beafier hardware? To me, I think the prime isn't any better than the sg2!
I was hoping for something strong enough to really slap apples iPhone 4s out but we will see.
As far as this g2x versus a prime?
Prime I would love to have cuz its faster and more than likely gonna get all the updates in the word
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Here is why I love my G2x OVER the Galaxy Nexus
1) I have this phone on a two year contract I buy off contract
2) HDMI Port, as small as it is, I don't want to use a dongle or any crap thing like that to hook up my phone as an hdmi output HDMI port on my G2x feels like it's gonna break off you have to shove the plug in so hard, and slight movement causes it to cut out. Neither T-Mobile or LG will do anything...but HDMI out is great on other phones
2) Micro SD Card. They didn't mention it....and I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung left this out.....such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1 I've never added storage beyond an 8gb card...most of my streaming is on wi-fi, and if data use is really that big a deal I can tether to my Sprint lines...at this point the cloud is where it's at
3) 8MP Camera, the camera on the G2x is SOLID. If LG could just get their as*es in gear and get this working fully on a new Ice Cream Sandwich rom. G2x camera is great, but if the sensor is even higher quality on the GN I can deal with a MP drop...
4) The Nexus is better only because of the Super AMOLED and Ice Cream Sandwich. I personally can live without the AMOLED and I know for a fact if LG doesn't update to Ice Cream Sandwich that the Awesome Devs here will. 1280x720 4.6" SAMOLED....uhhhh....no phone will even compare after seeing that screen. I bought a GS2 for pretty much the screen alone, and this is even better. 480x800 is annoying after using qHD, after using GN it will be going from a CinemaDisplay to a netbook. ICS looks amazing
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Gotta say, i dont agree. GN is a worthy upgrade based on the 4.6" 1280x720 curved screen alone. But besides that...lack of physical buttons will rock, NFC will be cool in the future, it's thin and big at the same time...honestly, what more could you want? This pretty much epitomizes the current generation of phones. I can't wait to get mine.
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Don't u all think the nexus should have beafier hardware? To me, I think the prime isn't any better than the sg2!
I was hoping for something strong enough to really slap apples iPhone 4s out but we will see.
As far as this g2x versus a prime?
Prime I would love to have cuz its faster and more than likely gonna get all the updates in the word
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The galaxy nexus is gonna **** on everything, specs don't really mean alot to me real world testing does. Everyone said the same thing about the Nexus S when it came out because it wasn't dual core but it can hold its own against almost any phone out. The specs on the galaxy Nexus are good they go together like the Omap processor is mainly because of the HD screen since omap has IV3. watch how many ppl get the Nexus when it drops, most ppl are getting iPhones so they can resell them cuz ppl will pay so much not cuz its a great phone IMO
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IMO, the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus were intentionally gimped by Samsung in order to sell their own, Touchwiz based handsets instead.
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Absolutley they did, why wouldn't they use their in house superior Exynos and Mali GPU? They want to push their own brand and Google accepted it. Google is to blame for that not Samsung.
It's cool that you're content with the G2x as I am. But in no way is this better than the GN. The 1280x720 is now native on Android on ICS. So no matter what devs can do, ICS will never be native on this phone. Plus it's super amoled HD... G2x can't touch that. And the camera ain't even close, the GN takes amazing pictures and video, plus that instant zero shutter lag is pretty awesome.
I love the G2x as much as you do. But it's not even in the same league as the GN.
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It's cool that you're content with the G2x as I am. But in no way is this better than the GN. The 1280x720 is now native on Android on ICS. So no matter what devs can do, ICS will never be native on this phone. Plus it's super amoled HD... G2x can't touch that. And the camera ain't even close, the GN takes amazing pictures and video, plus that instant zero shutter lag is pretty awesome.
I love the G2x as much as you do. But it's not even in the same league as the GN.
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agreed. the g2x is solid, even performs better than other dual-core 1.0ghz+ phones (benchmark 200+ higher than my brothers rooted sensation at 1.2). i think people are just displeased with the announcement. some serious upgrades, yes (ICS, ridiculous screen, etc) but some features are just lacking. it was the same with the nexus s (single core, no notification light, etc). if you're paying for a GN, i'm sure you understand the piece of technology you're getting your hands on; you're willing to pay for every feature that they're willing to put into the device. if google and samsung are concerned about overpricing the handset, they should be aware that their demographic for this device is specific and that demographic is willing to pay.
i'm selling my g2x and buying a GSII or GN. it's still an amazing device, just less of a powerhouse than some people thought.
Wow you all are aware that after the release of this phone, there is gonna be a butt load of better phones to follow really soon. I mean nvidia had to wait for this phone to be released so they can start pushing tegra 3 devices.
I am sure by Christmas we will have quad core phones available and all who ran out and bought this GN or GS2 will be upset.
I got this g2x for like 200 on Amazon no contract.
I have had the option for a new phone for awhile but why would I when this phone rocks?
Besides my next device is the Vita!
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True, but those better devices won't be Nexus devices. That is the big difference. After using multiple dual core processors including Tegra 2, I don't think I want any part of Tegra 3.
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True, but those better devices won't be Nexus devices. That is the big difference. After using multiple dual core processors including Tegra 2, I don't think I want any part of Tegra 3.
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what do you dislike about the tegra 2? i've never used any other dual cores.
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Wow you all are aware that after the release of this phone, there is gonna be a butt load of better phones to follow really soon. I mean nvidia had to wait for this phone to be released so they can start pushing tegra 3 devices.
I am sure by Christmas we will have quad core phones available and all who ran out and bought this GN or GS2 will be upset.
I got this g2x for like 200 on Amazon no contract.
I have had the option for a new phone for awhile but why would I when this phone rocks?
Besides my next device is the Vita!
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Yeah but it's a Nexus man. Same thing with the Nexus S, its hardware got eclipsed in a couple of months when the Atrix came out and the Nexus S was still smoother. In real world applications the Nexus S has been the smoothest phone up until probably the Bionic came out, everything else was either bogged down by Sense 3.0 or just plain out laggy like the Atrix. If we're talking out of the box, and with no custom ROM's, the Nexus line is always the smoothest and fastest, and the direct support from Google is what you're paying for.
Honestly I'm disappointed in the new hardware specs too. I wanted it to blow the iPhone 4S out of the water so I could show everyone that Android is truly superior. Now I have to rely on showing them pictures of ICS. And unfortunately most of them are too stupid to understand camera app settings, so that'll be of little help!
Should've gotten like a quad-core, 16mp camera, 2gb ram, hdmi port, 1080p screen, 320gb internal memory, and much more.
*If you don't sense the sarcasm, i'll put this as a disclaimer so I don't get trolled*
I've tried, Debated, installed, formated, reinstalled, reflashed....every different ROM / kernal / radio that I can find on the internet for this phone.
Its a great phone for a user that will NEVER want anything more than a Phone....but......
.....I turned on my INCREDIBLE today and updated it to the latest MIUI and just generally brought it back to current ROM technology and was just amazed...
...so like I said...I gave the Charge a shot, nobody got behind it like I hoped and i'll sell it...use the incredible til I decide on weather or not to get the nexus prime, or I dare say it an iPhone (highly unlikely) but i'm tired of all the fragmentation in the droid world...was WAY WAY WAY better when there were just 5 or 6 "KINGS" out there....
I really don't know what the carriers or device makers are thinking...did apple's success on ONE device not teach the industry anything? Its a better model long term...PICK ONE maybe a few...but jesus...30 phones a year is ridiculous...does nothing besided upset your customers that you captured from a very real competitor....that is dagerous.
I'm still android...I just hope the nexus prime gets a HUGE following....just want a following that my Incredible still seems to have...but it is falling.
Anyway...i'm rambling and frustrated that my year and a half old phone can outperform my 4 month old phone in EVERY category but one 4G, which I can live without.
Haven't made the decision complete yet....but I just don't know what else to do...anybody feel the same?
Definitely feel the same man. Especially with soooooo many phones being released. Quality, not quantity.
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Crazy you did this. I just traded my Charge for the Incredible 2 today to keep as my backup to the galaxy nexus. Charge got pretty pathetic.
Only outperforms because of 4g? Forgotten about our better screen, hdmi out, better camera and better audio chip, have we?
I definitely understand where you're coming from though. I used to have a fascinate which ended up getting all that good aosp stuff and for that reason (along with the form factor) part of me does regret switching the two.
I plan on doing something similar by selling the charge and using an old smartphone (Htc vogue with cm7 b*tch!) before getting the GN.
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Yup same deal. This phone has a nice screen.. thatsit. M wife has my old incredible and I keep it up to date for her. Its so much better. It is the amoled one and it rocks. Ya charge has hdmi out.. when was the last time any of you actually used it for a purpose other than showing it off? Lol.
But why the nexus? Its another samsung ..been dissapointed with all samsungs so far. Who cares about ics . We are flashers we don't care about stock software. Besides.. I like gps's that work.. u know what im talking about.
The htc rezound is what im going for... gonna go back go my htc roots. Like you said.. the incredible has a huge following. Htc sense is bad ass and 3.5 is going to be sense sweetness. Before december there will be an ics rom for it..
Im done with samdung.....
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It would be nice to see something new and refreshed come out for this phone. Seems like most of the dev support we had jumped ship to the bionic.
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I stick with this ****burglar of a phone because Ev-DO is garbage in my area whereas LTE is actually pretty easy to get ahold of. Also, I love having a Wolfson DAC and Voodoo Sound.
I got my buddy onto a DroidInc with CM and he really loves it, but it wouldn't have been the right decision for me. I'm paying Verizon prices for LTE, and it's pretty clear that being forced to tolerate a heaping helping of Samsung's incompetence is collateral damage from that choice.
In a year or whatever when this phone has finally evolved into a seasoned specimen that runs CM properly and is way out of the limelight, it will be seen positively -- people will be quick to recommend it as a solid phone with LTE, a good DAC, and a non-PenTile AMOLED screen that you can pick up on craigslist for about a hundred bucks.
"Just make sure you load CyanogenMod as soon as you get it home," they'll say. "The stock software is really a mess."
It's just too bad that most of us here voluntarily subsidized this flaming leprosy parade for $250+ and a monster contract.
The Charge is only my second Android phone. The Fascinate was my first. Although my experience is only based on Samsung, I still think Samsung offers superb phones and I will continue to buy them. I've played around with other phones. My brother had an old Eris and a buddy had an EVO off Sprint. I like the screens on Samsung better and I like how easy it is to Flash Roms. Its true that official OS releases are slow but I blame Verizon more than Samsung. Maybe I'm just lucky but I haven't had too many issues with my Charge and like it. I've enjoyed the screen, the audio, the physical buttons, and my phone runs pretty fast with lagfix. I have this phone tweaked out pretty good. Yes, it would be nice to have also but can't complain too much how it is running at present. I've experienced virtually none of the problems others report. I haven't had to turn my phone in to Verizon tech or anything .....same phone I got from the get go. I'm not oblivious to some of the complaints. I just don't have any of my own really. I like it although I will be going to the Nexus as soon as it comes out but not based on a dislike of my Charge. I just like to upgrade every year.
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I like the screens on Samsung better and I like how easy it is to Flash Roms.
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Yes screens on sammys are awesome. But easy to flash roms? No.its not hard I guess.. but compared to other phones its a *****.
Take the dinc for isntance. All roms flashes through rom manager. You have 50+ roms all instantly available to you. With the push of a single button you can load a new rom... don't like it and want your old one back? No problem push another button and go right back to what you were just running
Hell you could have a differrent rom for every day of the week if you wanted. Do a little playing with the other heavy hitting smartphones. Real playing .. buy one.. own it. Use it as your own. And you will agree.
The sole reason I got the samsung was so I could have first hand experience with one. I like to know about everything out there based on my own opinions and not others. I had friends with samsungs.. the captivate and the fascinate and one with the infuse. So I got the charge to see what the fuss was about.
The result of 6 months of ownership? Nice screen... the rest is **** tho
I've tried and tried to like it.. if there weren't so many other phones that were better, it would be a fantastic phone..
Samsung has disappointed me with their android devices. Just google "samsung gps problems". If your phone doesn't lock in <5 sec inside your house using standalone gps accurate to 3 feet.. why not? The other phones on the market do. Hell this one has actually locked on my position.. accurate to 10 feet.. and been moving with me down the road.. the only problem was it had me 500 miles away.. how is that even possible lol.
Ya.. this will be the last samsung phone I own. Will only own samsung tvs tho
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people will be quick to recommend it as a solid phone with LTE, a good DAC, and a non-PenTile AMOLED screen that you can pick up on craigslist for about a hundred bucks
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The nexus has a pentile screen...
http://www.onlykent.com/20111021/samsung-galaxy-nexus-display-is-pentile-disappointed-dont-be/
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The nexus has a pentile screen...
http://www.onlykent.com/20111021/samsung-galaxy-nexus-display-is-pentile-disappointed-dont-be/
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He's talking about the charge. No pentile here, folks.
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The nexus has a pentile screen...
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He was referring to Super AMOLED Plus. And yes, Nexus has pentile, but from the reports that I've read, higher resolution at 720p seems to cover that up.
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He was referring to Super AMOLED Plus. And yes, Nexus has pentile, but from the reports that I've read, higher resolution at 720p seems to cover that up.
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You can't see a sub pixel arranment when there's more subpixels per inch than the human eye can detect. People who are fussing about it are retarded
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I simply noted it because he specifically refered to it while also saying the prime would be his next choice. I saw contradiction and called it.
I think people are blinded by ics. The hardware is crap in comparison to others.
Take a read here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284463&page=27
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Yeah the screen on the Galaxy Nexus is going to be completely fine, I was referring to the Droid Charge's non-PenTile as a perk compared to other similiarly-valued Verizon devices -- specifically, the Bionic, the X2, the Fascinate, and the first-revision DroidInc.
I have the sneaking suspicion that once the Galaxy Nexus hits you're going to be able to buy secondhand Bionics, Charges, and Thunderbolts for pretty equivalent low prices. The GN looks killer, but its existence isn't going to retroactively remove lovely hardware features (S-AMOLED+, Voodoo Sound) from the Charge. And the Charge certainly sucks now, but it's only going to get better with time.
Funny how the people who pay the highest prices get the ****tiest experience, and the ones who saunter in a year late after the wonderful development community has beaten the phone into something usable get the best experience for the lowest price.
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Funny how the people who pay the highest prices get the ****tiest experience, and the ones who saunter in a year late after the wonderful development community has beaten the phone into something usable get the best experience for the lowest price.
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That's what we get for being early adopters lol.
My phone "isn't charging very well" and I have a new one being mailed to me. So now my ebay listing will be for a "new droid charge" instead of a used one. Should pull 500 easy. Plenty to buy a rezound or prime off contract
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My phone "isn't charging very well" and I have a new one being mailed to me. So now my ebay listing will be for a "new droid charge" instead of a used one. Should pull 500 easy.
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That's adorable that you think that. You'll get $250 tops.
The **** is a sunk cost, bros.
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I simply noted it because he specifically refered to it while also saying the prime would be his next choice. I saw contradiction and called it.
I think people are blinded by ics. The hardware is crap in comparison to others.
Take a read here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284463&page=27
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Hardware is crap? Lololol.
So people are disappointed it's not a quad core phone with an 8mp camera, no sd card slot, no Exynos chip, and no keyboard(Wtf?). Seriously, the specs on the Galaxy Nexus are top notch. People just complain because it's not what they dreamed of.
Let's break it down.
-Galaxy Nexus has a 5mp camera. "o noes! No super high rez 8mp shooter!!!11! " Megapixels don't mean much. Example: the iPhone 4's and Galaxy S' 5mp cameras destroyed the Droid X's and Evo's 8mp camera. What mainly matters is the sensor.
-It has a TI OMAP 4460(I think) processor with an overclocked gpu. Almost no apps on the Market are optimized for multiple core processors. Up until recently, even our OS didn't take advantage of them. I think this is plenty.
-HD Super Amoled is pentile. Big whoop. With that pixel density, no one will notice. Let's see, what would you prefer? An HD Super Amoled screen or a slightly inferior S-LCD HD screen? Both will most likely have similar pixel densities.
-No SD card slot. How many times do you remove your SD card? I thought so.
-It has a barometer. Why? To get even more accurate GPS readings.
The only thing I hope for is that it has a great DAC like the Galaxy S and Droid Charge.
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That's adorable that you think that. You'll get $250 tops.
The **** is a sunk cost, bros.
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Ended 3 days ago
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Box-Sam...0626667809?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4cfae29521
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Hardware is crap? Lololol.
So people are disappointed it's not a quad core phone with an 8mp camera, no sd card slot, no Exynos chip, and no keyboard(Wtf?). Seriously, the specs on the Galaxy Nexus are top notch. People just complain because it's not what they dreamed of.
Let's break it down.
-Galaxy Nexus has a 5mp camera. "o noes! No super high rez 8mp shooter!!!11! " Megapixels don't mean much. Example: the iPhone 4's and Galaxy S' 5mp cameras destroyed the Droid X's and Evo's 8mp camera. What mainly matters is the sensor.
-It has a TI OMAP 4460(I think) processor with an overclocked gpu. Almost no apps on the Market are optimized for multiple core processors. Up until recently, even our OS didn't take advantage of them. I think this is plenty.
-HD Super Amoled is pentile. Big whoop. With that pixel density, no one will notice. Let's see, what would you prefer? An HD Super Amoled screen or a slightly inferior S-LCD HD screen? Both will most likely have similar pixel densities.
-No SD card slot. How many times do you remove your SD card? I thought so.
-It has a barometer. Why? To get even more accurate GPS readings.
The only thing I hope for is that it has a great DAC like the Galaxy S and Droid Charge.
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If it was an htc phone with the same specs id be on it.
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Okay. So me and my mother are switching to AT&T soon, from Sprint. The skyrocket is the phone I'm going to go with, however I'm trying to figure out whether I should get the Skyrocket or use an old phone to hold me over until the skyrocket HD comes out? Yeah I know the only difference will be price and of course screen resolution but I don't want to get stuck for 2 years with 800x480 pixels when in a year we'll probably see like 3480x2140. Lol I'm wondering though, will the skyrocket HD have a decent amount of development? All I need is of course cm7/9 and or MIUI. I was also wondering, will it use the same roms and themes as the original Skyrocket since its the same phone just with a higher resolution screen? If that's the case I'm going to just wait for the HD. Which I'll probably do anyways. Just wanted to ask these questions. Thanks guys.
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Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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My snapdragon and screen are fine...anyhow, wait till the HD in my opinion. Skyrocket is a great phone either way.
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Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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there are these 3 letters that everyone NOT on TMo/Sprint like:
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The original poster already said he was conflicted on whether to get the Og or the HD because he didn't want to be left behind with an obsulete version. I say get the HD, my phone having the latest features helped me pick the skyrocket. I knew I would never be happy with a phone knowing LTE was out.
barmanham said:
Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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barmanham said:
Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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My Skyrocket is better than the SGS2 for AT&T (i777) I had previously: equivalent UI/app speed, much faster data, bigger screen, equivalent battery life.
What was your point?
By the time HD skyrocket hits retail the SGS 3 should be coming out.
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nbunn said:
Okay. So me and my mother are switching to AT&T soon, from Sprint. The skyrocket is the phone I'm going to go with, however I'm trying to figure out whether I should get the Skyrocket or use an old phone to hold me over until the skyrocket HD comes out? Yeah I know the only difference will be price and of course screen resolution but I don't want to get stuck for 2 years with 800x480 pixels when in a year we'll probably see like 3480x2140. Lol I'm wondering though, will the skyrocket HD have a decent amount of development? All I need is of course cm7/9 and or MIUI. I was also wondering, will it use the same roms and themes as the original Skyrocket since its the same phone just with a higher resolution screen? If that's the case I'm going to just wait for the HD. Which I'll probably do anyways. Just wanted to ask these questions. Thanks guys.
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Development between the Skyrocket and HD will likely see a huge amount of overlap. Adapting ROMs from one to the other will likely require little more than a recompile. So in that regard, ultimately the two models are good for us, brings more people into the fold.
So don't worry about the HD getting neglected. If that's your concern, wait it out.
You might also want to consider the regular Galaxy S II. All it's missing is LTE, and it's cheaper, available right now, already has ICS, and the Exynos is generally considered to be the more powerful chip (although the difference isn't that huge, they're both very speedy phones).
Dxtra said:
By the time HD skyrocket hits retail the SGS 3 should be coming out.
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In Korea or whatever. We never get that stuff until 6 months later.
Even if you get the HD another phone that's better will probably come out. Besides isn't the battery life going to be worse on HD than on the OG rocket?
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my advice is to wait for the HD and see how it compares performance, battery wise etc and then make a decision. Not sure the snapdragon or any processor can handle almost 3X more pixels with ease.
mossination said:
Even if you get the HD another phone that's better will probably come out. Besides isn't the battery life going to be worse on HD than on the OG rocket?
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It doesn't really work that way. The HD Super AMOLED screen isn't going to use more just because of its resolution. Super AMOLED Plus in our phones demonstrated much lower power consumption, despite a huge increase in subpixel resolution compared to the Super AMOLED panels in the first Galaxy S.
I mean the screen may or may not be a greater power draw. I haven't seen any comparisons. But I wouldn't assume it is just because it's HD resolution.
planoman said:
Not sure the snapdragon or any processor can handle almost 3X more pixels with ease.
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This is a legit concern. Not that the chip can't handle it; It's at the very least better equipped to do so than the OMAP in the Galaxy Nexus. But there's surely a performance hit to be taken by running at a much higher resolution.
The Galaxy S II LTE WIMAX came out here in Japan recently with the HD resolution. The screen is slightly bigger than the LTE/Skyrocket but the AMOLED technology is the same as the previous Galaxy S II.
The screen is very nice, perhaps a little better than the LG Optimus LTE HD (Nitro) in terms of viewing angle and brightness, however it's not the same as the super AMOLED plus in the LTE/Skyrocket which is quite vivid by comparison.
Text on the WIMAX is very readable, and nicer to read than on the LTE, however some people might find it a little too small. I've always been a 1080p guy, but have found myself straining my eyes on small screens these days. A 10.1" tablet would just about be the minimum size for full HD.
The smaller size resolution and screen on the LTE makes panel transition smoother (the Galaxy S II is smoother still), the HD panels of the WIMAX is hefty work for the same processor also used by the LTE, if speed is your priority then I would recommend waiting for the second generation HD phones to come out with much faster processors.
I had a feeling that the HD panels wouldn't be as bright being a first generation type which was why I went for the LTE, it may probably be the last of the 800x480 type but it will be the best it can be.
Anyway and we are still subjected to regular Android changes that may produce more HD based applications, so who knows where this will be heading. It will benefit tablets more because the higher resolution helps, but not sure on mobile phones.
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
Kaaji1359 said:
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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lol! I was at a meeting in December and pulled out my skyrocket to look at something and a co worker said "why are your icons so big? Is that the cricket phone for old people?" hahahaha!
Kaaji1359 said:
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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same exact situation here! Once density changed, it changed everything for me! Had the same issues when retiring the atrix.
Get HD Go big or do not go at all Luv my rocket
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Kaaji1359 said:
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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I will have to check out that app! I have been bothered by the giant icons after coming from the Atrix. I'm looking forward to trying out the Alien ROM on this phone, I loved it on the Atrix.
taylrjones said:
I will have to check out that app! I have been bothered by the giant icons after coming from the Atrix. I'm looking forward to trying out the Alien ROM on this phone, I loved it on the Atrix.
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I have the Galaxy Captivate, the AT&T Galaxy S II, and the Skyrocket.
The captivate served me well. Still is kicking ass with ICS on it.
The AT&T Galaxy S II is nice, fast and a good phone.
But I use the skyrocket because it's JUST as fast as the GS II, it's got LTE and a bigger screen (My screen looks fine, great actually).
I had some battery issues with a rom but flashed again and It's been kicking along just fine. 12 hours later , still got 63% battery left.
Kaaji1359 said:
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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Wow thanks for the tip on that app, love my phone even more now! Just wish I could fit more apps on the screen now, they seem so spaced out...lol
Ok nevermind about fitting more apps. Tried out ADW Launcher and it works beautifully. Only pita is having to go back to stock resolution to install some things in the market then setting everything up again...