I followed the instructions on how to root. I am a little confused on some things. Does the kernel give you root or does the rom. I have CWM installed and was able to flash the imnuts peanutbutta jelly time kernel. The kernel shows up when I look under "About Phone." I was going to flash Gummy charged 1.9.1 but in reading the instructions it says to make sure you have root. To check root I downloaded the terminal emulator and typed "su" without the exclamation marks. It said permission denied. That is my dilemma. Do I flash the rom to gain root or do I do something else? Sorry for the questions.
Did you follow; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657 ?
That's pretty straight forward. Also, it's the ROM that gives you root not the kernel.
Just flash the full ODIN package of the 1.9.1 that will root you automatically.
So i install using odin just like using odin for cwm?
blarrick said:
Did you follow; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657 ?
That's pretty straight forward. Also, it's the ROM that gives you root not the kernel.
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No, its actually the kernel that gives you root, in this case. Hence needing root BEFORE you flash a rom.
But yes, the quickest and easiest way to get to gummyCHARGED is to flash the full odin. It will put you on gummyCHARGED FE 1.91 with imnuts OTB kernel, and latest CWM.
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I have rooted my charge on ED1. I dont have CWM or anything installed. I am wanting to update to EE4 and reroot it. I have been reading but finding different answers. My question is can I just take the OTA update and then reroot the charge?
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I have rooted my charge on ED1. I dont have CWM or anything installed. I am wanting to update to EE4 and reroot it. I have been reading but finding different answers. My question is can I just take the OTA update and then reroot the charge?
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What I did was use ODIN and flash the full ED2, accept the OTA and then root once on EE4.
ED2
Is ED2 the update before the EE4 update? Also thank you for your quick responce.
dhemke17
I cant find the ED2 update that you would use with oden. I found the ED2 update zip file that you would use with cwm. Could you please point me in the right direction for the download for the ED2 that you would use with oden.
bama9393 said:
I cant find the ED2 update that you would use with oden. I found the ED2 update zip file that you would use with cwm. Could you please point me in the right direction for the download for the ED2 that you would use with oden.
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Easiest way possible.
Go Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096657
Download the first rom (THE ONE WITH THE BURNING DOWNLOAD)
This is ED2 to be flashed using ODIN.
Use the second download of the rom. ( THE ONE WITH THE SPINNING FLOPPY DISK. NOT THE BURNING DOWNLOAD)
The second version is EE4 to be flashed with CWM.
Pull battery, plug OEM Cable into phone. Hold Vol Dn button and plug into PC. Replace battery. Open ODIN3. You will see a yellow box show up on your Odin showing you are connected and in Download mode.
Using the AlteredBeast download you just grabbed.
Click PDA. Browse to the .tar file. click ok (MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON PDA)
click start and let ODIN do it's thing.
Should get Passed 6:30 (or something around there) when done.
From here you have CWM+ROOT+VOODOO
Now you can flash any "FROYO" rom you want.
I would suggest staying away from the Gingerbread Roms from now as we are still testing them.
i am in a similar position. i have rooted ed1 and wanted ee4. i do not want a custom rom. why is it suggested to go ed1 to ed2 then ee4. can i just do ee4 ota and then root. my only problem is that i see no root for ee4 listed in the sticky thread. i currently don't want lagfix or voodoo just stock rooted ee4. the rooted ee4 thread listed in the sticky is old and has bad links
drewcam88
I am in the same boat you are in. I am still looking. If I find anything I will let you know. My thunderbolt was easier to root then this. lol
I honestly don't understand why you all are having such a hard time with this.
If you want a rooted stock rom. sorry the closest you will get is the EE4 Debloated 4.2.1 rom. If you follow the instructions i gave you, then you can flash the EE4 Debloated rom from within CWM.
Part of the rooting process is having CWM. If you don't want voodoo, then you have other options that you can find by searching from the main page "CWM UPDATE".
Hope this helps.
Sorry for the confusion. But I have been able to root the last stock roms of previous phones so I didn't understand why a custom is needed. I now understand that there seems to be no root for the stock ee4 rom. So you are saying just flash the custom ee4 rom and be done with it? Does doing the OTA for ee4 remove root?
Yes sir. The OTA pushes will return your phone to unrooted stock. Basically like using ODIN to flash the stock.
Just follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657
As long as you follow it word for word(which is very easy as it's noob-proofed) you will have absolutely no trouble. Just get your phone to stock EE4 by accepting the OTA download and follow the guide, you'll be rooted and lagfixed(if you want to lagfix, but why wouldnt you?!)in about 30minutes.
so i don't seem to have root. i got cwr, kernel, and Rom installed but no apps have root. superuser was installed with Rom. now what???
drewcam888 said:
so i don't seem to have root. i got cwr, kernel, and Rom installed but no apps have root. superuser was installed with Rom. now what???
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Then you are rooted. I'm not exactly sure what you thought was going to happen. You can now dl apps that are reserved for rooted phones. Regular apps do no need superuser to run. The apps will tell you in the description if it needs the superuser rights or not.
If you want to test it out the simple way.
Download Android Terminal Emulator.
at the "$" prompts type in : su (lowercase letters as linux is case sensitive)
if your prompt changes to "#" Then you are rooted.
dude I was not rooted. all root apps would not run. I tried a new kernel and that fixed the issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172182
Boosh.
Sent from my Droid Charge running Humble 1.4
I'm running stock EE4 but I'm getting ready to root and install one of the debloated ROMs. Currently I have a lot of apps, home screens and ADW Launcher set to my satisfaction and settings tweaked how I like them.
What are "best practices" for pre-rooting backup so all of these are retrievable? I've used Titanium Pro on my tablet so I'm conversant with that process but don't I have to be rooted first? Should I root the phone, install TP, back-up and THEN flash the ROM? Are there alternatives?
Thanks, I await advice.
adw settings you can backup by going to adw settings and doing a backup. Not sure if there is an unrooted version of titanium. Bad part is. You cannot just root if you are EE4 already. 1click and Gingerbreak do not work on EE4. You have to Odin flash a rooted rom. Sorry. Know thats not what you wanted to hear.
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adw settings you can backup by going to adw settings and doing a backup. Not sure if there is an unrooted version of titanium. Bad part is. You cannot just root if you are EE4 already. 1click and Gingerbreak do not work on EE4. You have to Odin flash a rooted rom. Sorry. Know thats not what you wanted to hear.
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Not true. You simply need to use Odin to flash a new kernel which is rooted (pbj by immuts for example). Once you've done this you'll also get CWM. You need to find an Odin package that only contains the kernel.
Once you've done that, with root you can use TiBackup like you've done before and then flash your ROM.
Thanks, fellas. If you're monitoring this thread, would you mind having a look over here?
keithce said:
Not true. You simply need to use Odin to flash a new kernel which is rooted (pbj by immuts for example). Once you've done this you'll also get CWM. You need to find an Odin package that only contains the kernel.
Once you've done that, with root you can use TiBackup like you've done before and then flash your ROM.
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OK SO, ROOTED means that the ROM has SU capability which is given to it by superuser app. Which allows you to have admin capabilities to change permissions to your filesystem.
The kernel allows you to overclock and undervolt your system while giving access to other HARDWARE specific functions.
Now please explain to me how a KERNEL can give you SuperUser permission to the filesystem if the KERNEL is a bridge between the Hardware and Software. Not saying your wrong, I just don't see how a Kernel can give you root access.
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OK SO, ROOTED means that the ROM has SU capability which is given to it by superuser app. Which allows you to have admin capabilities to change permissions to your filesystem.
The kernel allows you to overclock and undervolt your system while giving access to other HARDWARE specific functions.
Now please explain to me how a KERNEL can give you SuperUser permission to the filesystem if the KERNEL is a bridge between the Hardware and Software. Not saying your wrong, I just don't see how a Kernel can give you root access.
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Indeed, strictly technically speaking you are correct. However after the radio on the charge got updated to EE4 the usual 'back doors' or exploits to get root no longer worked.
Therefore the developers of the kernels for the charge built in the capability to auto root when it boots and hands off the hardware to the software.
If you read the posts for the kernels (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104634) you would see that.
Cheers!
I stand corrected. It's right there in black and white. Auto-Root on Boot.
We learn something new everyday. Thanks for getting me brought up to speed.
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Not true. You simply need to use Odin to flash a new kernel which is rooted (pbj by immuts for example). Once you've done this you'll also get CWM. You need to find an Odin package that only contains the kernel.
Once you've done that, with root you can use TiBackup like you've done before and then flash your ROM.
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Is flashing a custom kernel, like PBJ, easily done using Odin? Do I use the same procedure when flashing CWM?
The latest version of CWM is not working--the button mapping is all screwed up. So I can't install any .zip files from my SD card -- I just keep seeing this f***ing blue banana.
So do I already need to have CWM installed to install a custom kernel? I'm waiting for someone to post CWM 4.0.0.8 until danalo is able to fix the faulty CWM currently linked for downloading
---Thank you for any help you may provide---
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Is flashing a custom kernel, like PBJ, easily done using Odin? Do I use the same procedure when flashing CWM?
The latest version of CWM is not working--the button mapping is all screwed up. So I can't install any .zip files from my SD card -- I just keep seeing this f***ing blue banana.
So do I already need to have CWM installed to install a custom kernel? I'm waiting for someone to post CWM 4.0.0.8 until danalo is able to fix the faulty CWM currently linked for downloading
---Thank you for any help you may provide---
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Flashing anything in Odin uses an almost identical procedure unless you're trying to also upgrade the baseband/radio/modem.
Yes, you can flash a kernel using Odin. You just have to make sure that you download the right file to be flashed because it must be in specific format (*.md5).
Here is a link to jt's kernel from this post. Its a root kernel with CWM and also includes the lagfix (reformat to EXT4) that you should be able to flash using Odin.
That should give you a working (although limited functionality) version of CWM so that you can then install everything else and upgrade when a newer working version of CWM comes out.
Basically you just need to get CWM on there once as a starting point and then you can upgrade, update, and do whatever you want from there.
I simply want a rooted Charge running the STOCK Froyo with all the Verizon "bloat" intact. For the life of me, I just can't seem to find clear instructions on obtaining this. The "Look Here First" thread doesn't seem to have what i'm looking for, or it's just not clear. I simply want to be able to use my Paid version of Titanium Backup.
If someone could point me to the most accurate and clear thread that explains how to get what i'm looking for it would be greatly appreciated.
Flash CWM in Odin.
Flash a rooted kernel.
Download su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip from here and transfer it to your SDCard. Flash CWM in Odin, boot straight to recovery after flashing. Once in CWM, flash the su zip you downloaded and enjoy root.
So is a rooted kernel necessary? Everything I have been reading says you need a rooted kernel.
imnuts can I keep my stock kernel and just use the SuperUser binary with CWM? (sounds too easy unless I'm missing something)
Thank you.
viper157 said:
So is a rooted kernel necessary? Everything I have been reading says you need a rooted kernel.
imnuts can I keep my stock kernel and just use the SuperUser binary with CWM? (sounds too easy unless I'm missing something)
Thank you.
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yes, just flash that superuser package in CWM and enjoy root
anoninja118 said:
yes, just flash that superuser package in CWM and enjoy root
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Thank you.
Apologies is advance for the silly questions.
Coming from a rooted Thunderbolt, I've been doing some reading here and there is something I don't understand.
I don't see a "How to root..." thread.
Does the Charge not need to be rooted in order to flash ROMs?
I see the "How to flash ROM's via ODIN" but is there something else i'm missing?
I want to flash the Eclipse ROM.
From a factory Stock Charge:
Do I just install Odin, Sammy drivers, and then just flash ClockworkMod, Voodoo Charge kernel and the Eclipse ROM?
Thanks for your help
AvatarOfFrost said:
Apologies is advance for the silly questions.
Coming from a rooted Thunderbolt, I've been doing some reading here and there is something I don't understand.
I don't see a "How to root..." thread.
Does the Charge not need to be rooted in order to flash ROMs?
I see the "How to flash ROM's via ODIN" but is there something else i'm missing?
I want to flash the Eclipse ROM.
From a factory Stock Charge:
Do I just install Odin, Sammy drivers, and then just flash ClockworkMod, Voodoo Charge kernel and the Eclipse ROM?
Thanks for your help
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The Charge does not have to be rooted to flash ROMs, and most ROMs (other than the unmodified stock ones) come prerooted, so all you have to do is flash them and you're done. In fact, the only way to root the charge is to initially flash something, be it a rooted ROM or CWM, which you can use to install a rooted kernel.
AvatarOfFrost said:
Apologies is advance for the silly questions.
Coming from a rooted Thunderbolt, I've been doing some reading here and there is something I don't understand.
I don't see a "How to root..." thread.
Does the Charge not need to be rooted in order to flash ROMs?
I see the "How to flash ROM's via ODIN" but is there something else i'm missing?
I want to flash the Eclipse ROM.
From a factory Stock Charge:
Do I just install Odin, Sammy drivers, and then just flash ClockworkMod, Voodoo Charge kernel and the Eclipse ROM?
Thanks for your help
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shrike1978 said:
The Charge does not have to be rooted to flash ROMs, and most ROMs (other than the unmodified stock ones) come prerooted, so all you have to do is flash them and you're done. In fact, the only way to root the charge is to initially flash something, be it a rooted ROM or CWM, which you can use to install a rooted kernel.
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all you need to do if you JUST wanna root the phone is use odin to flash CWM, then in CWM flash the attached superuser.zip, it can also be used if for whatever reason the rom/kernel doesn't root you or the app doesn't show up
like shrike1978 said above, just download the rom of your choice and it will be prerooted for you unless you odin flash a straight stock package.
I want to leave my phone the way it is but have it rooted. I did it once before but lost the .tar file. Can anybody help with the tar file? I do not want to flash any roms. Thank you
Its build ee4
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Flash a rooted kernel.
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyCharged 2.0
all you have to do is odin CWM (it'll be one time use anyway without a custom kernel so no worries), boot into it and flash this superuser package then you're done
http://db.tt/4b3IK0C
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge
What do you mean one time use? Will I lose root after I reboot phone? Can you give me a link to the newest CWM? Thank you
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What do you mean one time use? Will I lose root after I reboot phone? Can you give me a link to the newest CWM? Thank you
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You'll keep root, but the stock kernel will overwrite CMW with stock recovery on boot. Check this thread because it has links to CMW, and also links to Odin and instructions on how to use it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160580
shrike1978 said:
You'll keep root, but the stock kernel will overwrite CMW with stock recovery on boot. Check this thread because it has links to CMW, and also links to Odin and instructions on how to use it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160580
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you beat me to it lol... but yes this
anoninja118 said:
all you have to do is odin CWM (it'll be one time use anyway without a custom kernel so no worries), boot into it and flash this superuser package then you're done
http://db.tt/4b3IK0C
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge
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Yep.
Did this very thing with the Boss Lady's Charge Friday evening.
I had told her I was going to root her Charge over the weekend (and update my DINC to stock Ginberbread). We had already installed Ti Backup and Root Explorer and they, of course, could not run without root.
Friday evening I asked for her phone. Remembering how involved rooting our DINCs was, she gave me her phone while also giving me The Look (tm).
When I handed her phone back three minutes later, she asked "So, when are you going to root it?" I told her to start up Root Explorer. Surprise! Boss Lady is pleased!
She is even more pleased that, other than being rooted, her Charge is bone stock.
EDIT: Figured it out