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Sorry to beat a dead horse, bout to go insane

Ok, so i have had a samsung captivate since last summer. I just did the official froyo update the other day and it was successful with kies mini. I then decided to root it using super1click which also worked successfully. I have superuser, titanium backup with busybox installed, and super manager and terminal emulator. I also successfully got clockworkmod flashed and working.
My problem is that ive got the new cognition rom on my internal sd card, but when i try to flash it with cwm, i get the 3e recovery failure message. Ive been reading various sites today on how to fix this problem, but every site seems to tell me something different. I ask this question here, because it seems to be the most knowledgeable site to go to.
How do i get my rooted captivate, with all the above installed and running, to allow me to flash a new rom and possible a new kernal down the road? Im about to go insane trying to decipher through all the info all the different sites have said. Sorry to write such a novel on a tired subject, but im going crazy. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks.

trontheman said:
Ok, so i have had a samsung captivate since last summer. I just did the official froyo update the other day and it was successful with kies mini. I then decided to root it using super1click which also worked successfully. I have superuser, titanium backup with busybox installed, and super manager and terminal emulator. I also successfully got clockworkmod flashed and working.
My problem is that ive got the new cognition rom on my internal sd card, but when i try to flash it with cwm, i get the 3e recovery failure message. Ive been reading various sites today on how to fix this problem, but every site seems to tell me something different. I ask this question here, because it seems to be the most knowledgeable site to go to.
How do i get my rooted captivate, with all the above installed and running, to allow me to flash a new rom and possible a new kernal down the road? Im about to go insane trying to decipher through all the info all the different sites have said. Sorry to write such a novel on a tired subject, but im going crazy. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks.
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If you would have done a search here then you would have found that you need to do one of 2 things.
1. Flash back to 2.1
2. Replace the 3e recovery with one that doesnt check for the sig.

I dont know how to replace the 3e recovery. I think ill go with flashing back to 2.1. Once i dl Odin and flash back to 2.1, then i can flash a new rom or a new kernel? Will it undo everything i've done so far? Thanks for the help.

trontheman said:
I dont know how to replace the 3e recovery. I think ill go with flashing back to 2.1. Once i dl Odin and flash back to 2.1, then i can flash a new rom or a new kernel? Will it undo everything i've done so far? Thanks for the help.
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Here is a link to the replacement recovery.
Make sure you have the right odin and that your 3 button works right.
Yesh doing this will wipe out everything. Make sure to back up. Do not back up system data at all as when you restore it, it can lead to major issues. Once done with a custom rom it will be wiped clean. You will have to redo contacts, email, and all other settings

Thanks. Would it be okay to just flash a new kernel like speedmod kernal and just use the stock rom? Is that possible to do while im on rooted 2.2? I like the rom just fine, i just want it faster mainly. Thanks again.

trontheman said:
Thanks. Would it be okay to just flash a new kernel like speedmod kernal and just use the stock rom? Is that possible to do while im on rooted 2.2? I like the rom just fine, i just want it faster mainly. Thanks again.
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To be honest I am not sure. I only had the stock on for a few hours as it was just not that great compared to the 2.2.1 rom that I have been used to running. I need BT voice dial and the added exchange options so 2.2 was not really for me. If you want a stock feel but faster then I would go with COG or one of the other roms based on the kb1 rom.

So I've come to the conclusion that I should just flash back to 2.1 and go from there. I have odin downloaded, but I'm not certain how to use it. Do you guys think I should flash a custom rom from stock, or just flash a kernel with lag fix and delete the bloatware? Thanks.

first flash 2.1 stock to get rid of the damn 3e. custom roms dont replace that always. also most custom roms dont flash with odin.
get a stock rom. read the instructions, flash

trontheman said:
So I've come to the conclusion that I should just flash back to 2.1 and go from there. I have odin downloaded, but I'm not certain how to use it. Do you guys think I should flash a custom rom from stock, or just flash a kernel with lag fix and delete the bloatware? Thanks.
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If you are getting .zip signature errors when trying to flash a rom (because you are using 3e recovery) you will not be able to flash a kernel.
Supercurio did make a KB1 kernel that is installable via Odin. If you install that, you will also get CWM recovery. Then you can flash anything you want.
Either way you will need an Odin program. Either Odin One Click to flash back to stock 2.1 or Odin v1.7 to flash the Supercurio KB1 Kernel .tar file.

trontheman said:
Thanks. Would it be okay to just flash a new kernel like speedmod kernal and just use the stock rom? Is that possible to do while im on rooted 2.2? I like the rom just fine, i just want it faster mainly. Thanks again.
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Correct me if i'm wrong but I think the speedmod kernal is i9000 based which would cause a major headache/bootloop on the stock rom.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Johnnie5000 said:
Correct me if i'm wrong but I think the speedmod kernal is i9000 based which would cause a major headache/bootloop on the stock rom.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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....it works fine on stock 2.2, as does any other 2.2/2.2.1 kernel

Pirateghost said:
....it works fine on stock 2.2, as does any other 2.2/2.2.1 kernel
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The problem is, the OP has no idea what he's doing. It sounds like he's wanting to flash to 2.1, then add a I9000 kernel. Since he's all over the place, it's hard to decipher what he's thinking.
To the OP. I'd HIGHLY suggest you look for the stickied "how to" video's by Connexxion. They will tell you what you need to do and show you EXACTLY how to do it. Invaluable info for the noobs.

Here is the link your looking for, download the installer zip file at the bottom of the first post. Extract to your fancy, use the install.bat file once extracted. Be sure to have the phone connect to the pc (DO NOT MOUNT) and have USB Debugging on.
Modded 3e recovery that works like 2e
trontheman said:
Ok, so i have had a samsung captivate since last summer. I just did the official froyo update the other day and it was successful with kies mini. I then decided to root it using super1click which also worked successfully. I have superuser, titanium backup with busybox installed, and super manager and terminal emulator. I also successfully got clockworkmod flashed and working.
My problem is that ive got the new cognition rom on my internal sd card, but when i try to flash it with cwm, i get the 3e recovery failure message. Ive been reading various sites today on how to fix this problem, but every site seems to tell me something different. I ask this question here, because it seems to be the most knowledgeable site to go to.
How do i get my rooted captivate, with all the above installed and running, to allow me to flash a new rom and possible a new kernal down the road? Im about to go insane trying to decipher through all the info all the different sites have said. Sorry to write such a novel on a tired subject, but im going crazy. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks.
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I am wanting to flash back to 2.1 and go from there. I have the drivers installed and I have odin downloaded. I tried it last night, but I couldn't get it to work. I got it to download mode, but still nothing. What could the problem be? Thanks.

I tried odin one click again today, but still nothing. All i want to do is flash back to 2.1, root, then flash a rom or custom kernel. Im losing my mind, any more help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Bump. Thanks.

trontheman said:
I tried odin one click again today, but still nothing. All i want to do is flash back to 2.1, root, then flash a rom or custom kernel. Im losing my mind, any more help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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ok no need to flash 2.1
get neldars kernel flashing app from the market
get a kernel for froyo without 3e recovery in the dev section. this one is great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=547852&d=1300708475
use neldars app (edit) "sgs kernel flasher" or something to that effect. to flash this kernel
then flash cognition
you can also use odin3 but not the oneclick downloader without the .pit file and flash the same kernel placed in the pda slot.

when you installed keis mini, it installed new WRONG drivers (for odin)
reinstall the original other drivers.
BUT. in your OP all you wanted was to be able to flash COG or something.
ALL you have to do is fix your 3e recovery, SEVERAL people including myself have told you how to fix it. then CWM will work! you dont need a computer to fix 3e if you have root explorer (google it $) .
if you are going to flash a custom rom anyway dont bother going back to 2.1.
if you are going to stay stock, 2.2 is better anyway. (aside from 3e but staying stock dont matter)
you can also use odin3 but not the oneclick downloader without the .pit file and the same kernel placed in the pda slot.
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@ dani - dude read the thread. odin doesn't recognize his phone.!! try to catch up before butting in...

well that doesn't make my whole post irrelivent. if he is rooted and has busy box he can use neldars kernel flasher. sorry if i over looked something.

Ok, well i got the aio toolbox, and i flashed back to stock. Now im running 2.1-update1. How do i go about rooting now? I cant seem to find a root file. Thanks.

How to get a rooted STOCK Charge

I simply want a rooted Charge running the STOCK Froyo with all the Verizon "bloat" intact. For the life of me, I just can't seem to find clear instructions on obtaining this. The "Look Here First" thread doesn't seem to have what i'm looking for, or it's just not clear. I simply want to be able to use my Paid version of Titanium Backup.
If someone could point me to the most accurate and clear thread that explains how to get what i'm looking for it would be greatly appreciated.

Flash CWM in Odin.
Flash a rooted kernel.

Download su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip from here and transfer it to your SDCard. Flash CWM in Odin, boot straight to recovery after flashing. Once in CWM, flash the su zip you downloaded and enjoy root.

So is a rooted kernel necessary? Everything I have been reading says you need a rooted kernel.
imnuts can I keep my stock kernel and just use the SuperUser binary with CWM? (sounds too easy unless I'm missing something)
Thank you.

viper157 said:
So is a rooted kernel necessary? Everything I have been reading says you need a rooted kernel.
imnuts can I keep my stock kernel and just use the SuperUser binary with CWM? (sounds too easy unless I'm missing something)
Thank you.
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yes, just flash that superuser package in CWM and enjoy root

anoninja118 said:
yes, just flash that superuser package in CWM and enjoy root
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Thank you.

Help!

Soft bricked(total noob) just got the JIG, got into download menu.
Can someone give me instructions on how to get back to stock, gain root, and install custom ROMS/ MIUI
It be very appreciated, i'm doing this for a buddy and i don't want to give him a brick lol.

1. for restoring stock : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
2. use superoneclick to root
3. Install clockwork recovery and rom manager
4. Install custom roms.

Wait before you flash that, what firmware version did it come with???
It could mess your phone up if it isn't right.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium

b-eock said:
Wait before you flash that, what firmware version did it come with???
It could mess your phone up if it isn't right.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium
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Pretty sure it came with 2.2 but not sure.

Then I wouldn't do that 2.1 Odin one click.... Look for a stock 2.2 Odin or Heimdall, make sure to read thoroughly too.

b-eock said:
Then I wouldn't do that 2.1 Odin one click.... Look for a stock 2.2 Odin or Heimdall, make sure to read thoroughly too.
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See thats the thing i hate to be a pain but im looking for detailed instructions.

b-eock said:
Wait before you flash that, what firmware version did it come with???
It could mess your phone up if it isn't right.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium
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thank you for pointing it out
OP might want to look at these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15330252
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963403
Note: as b-eock pointed out, make sure what was your stock version before restoring it!

I've always just flashed newer than my stock to avoid that problem and it always works well for me, after bricking or when i want to flash a new rom i flash to cappy gingerbread and flash boog kernal to get CWM(clockworkmod). CWM is essential is you plan on flashing to other roms. If you plan on flashing to another rom anyways it doesn't matter which version of stock you load as long as it work so I'd just flash 2.2 or newer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
- this has all the odin 1-click flashable packages for captivate
To do everything you want to do...
flash back to stock, use 2.2 or one of the 2.3 versions. If you plan on flashing to a gingerbread rom (2.3) you'll most likely need the gingerbread bootloaders, if you don't originally flash a odin package with the gingerbread bootloaders you might be asked to install them later depending on what rom you use
incase you don't know odin is the computer program used to flash one click packages, you can find it by searching XDA, one click packages won't require it.
odin has to be open before you plug the usb into the phone putting it into download mode.
to flash to other roms you need CWM (ClockWorkMod-a customized recovery mode for the phone) the thread in this post has links to odin flashable kernals with CWM for each software build. To get CWM flash the respective kernal for the version you use. You'll need odin to flash the new kernal, its essentially stock apart from CWM. In odin select PDA and browse to the kernal zip to flash it.
you can search around XDA for oneclickroots, they will typically be odin or CWM flashable it's quite straight forward. New roms will typically already be rooted so you shouldn't have to root again.
good luck!

Does anyone know which exact ODIN i need to flash to get back to 2.2 from download mode.

You can use adamoutler's uckb2 heimdall one click. That's stock 2.2.

But whitch ODIN do i use.
Gez, HTC is so much easier then this samsung!

David522d said:
But whitch ODIN do i use.
Gez, HTC is so much easier then this samsung!
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Unfortunately, there is currently no Odin one-click of stock Froyo (at least that I'm aware of). If you want stock Froyo, you'll need to either piece it together with full Odin, or use the Heimdall One-Click.

jmtheiss said:
Unfortunately, there is currently no Odin one-click of stock Froyo (at least that I'm aware of). If you want stock Froyo, you'll need to either piece it together with full Odin, or use the Heimdall One-Click.
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*Update*
I flashed the 2.2 from this http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
Now i need to root and install recovery please SOMEONE HELP ME!!!! im so ****ty with this crap. Soon as i get recovery ill be straight.

David522d said:
*Update*
I flashed the 2.2 from this http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
Now i need to root and install recovery please SOMEONE HELP ME!!!! im so ****ty with this crap. Soon as i get recovery ill be straight.
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Take a look in this post. That should get you the right 3E recovery.
Once you have that, you can either use ROM Manager to install CWM recovery, or see if you can find a kernel with it already baked in and use ODIN to flash the kernel (look for the speedmod kernel).
Or you could flash stock GB, but that updates bootloaders and is a whole different can of worms.

jmtheiss said:
Take a look in this post. That should get you the right 3E recovery.
Once you have that, you can either use ROM Manager to install CWM recovery, or see if you can find a kernel with it already baked in and use ODIN to flash the kernel (look for the speedmod kernel).
Or you could flash stock GB, but that updates bootloaders and is a whole different can of worms.
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wouldnt it be better to root first? My focus is just getting MIUI on this thing

Another update.
I rooted the 2.2 im on and now enabled non market apps to be downloaded.
Can someone now tell me how to install recovery and install custom ROMS!
i know i know im annoying, im sorry!

David522d said:
wouldnt it be better to root first? My focus is just getting MIUI on this thing
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Normally, the answer would be yes. However, as part of the Froyo update, AT&T managed to mess up the recovery menu, meaning that it won't flash unsigned packages. This makes getting CWM basically impossible without doing the steps in that post or flashing a different kernel.
You can root if you want to, but doing the steps in that post first will save you some headache.

jmtheiss said:
Normally, the answer would be yes. However, as part of the Froyo update, AT&T managed to mess up the recovery menu, meaning that it won't flash unsigned packages. This makes getting CWM basically impossible without doing the steps in that post or flashing a different kernel.
You can root if you want to, but doing the steps in that post first will save you some headache.
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I already rooted =/ , should i still try this?

If you have full ODIN, go here, and download the kernel labeled "speedmod-kernel-i897-k13c-500hz.tar" at the end of the first post. Open Odin, and in the "PDA" slot, navigate to the .tar file and flash it. That will get you the speedmod kernel, which has CWM, which you need to be able to flash.
Once it's flashed, just hold V+/V-/Power until it reboots, and then you'll be in CWM and can flash MIUI.
I'm assuming you've backed up all your apps with Titanium Backup, right? If you haven't, do that before you do anything else so you don't lose them.

jmtheiss said:
If you have full ODIN, go here, and download the kernel labeled "speedmod-kernel-i897-k13c-500hz.tar" at the end of the first post. Open Odin, and in the "PDA" slot, navigate to the .tar file and flash it. That will get you the speedmod kernel, which has CWM, which you need to be able to flash.
Once it's flashed, just hold V+/V-/Power until it reboots, and then you'll be in CWM and can flash MIUI.
I'm assuming you've backed up all your apps with Titanium Backup, right? If you haven't, do that before you do anything else so you don't lose them.
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Im not sure if i have "FULL" ODIN. I have the ODIN i just used to install 2.2. Then i rooted it using SUPER1CLICK.
Where do i get the full odin

Flashing question

I am new to the Charge but not rooting and Android. I came from the DX so the way things are done in this thing are different. Here's my question:
I am currently rooted and running a rom with a custom kernel. If I use Odin to flash the official software, will I also need to replace the kernel separately or will flashing the official software also restore the original kernel?

You will not need to replace anything, the Odin package is all in one. It will put you back to bare stock which means ROM, kernel, recovery, modem, you name it.
If you wouldn't mind helping could you link me to a rooting guide on a DX? Some general tips on rooting it would be very appreciated. My dad has one and I'd like to root/ROM it for him but i don't feel like studying up >_< Thanks!

Wrightperspective said:
I am new to the Charge but not rooting and Android. I came from the DX so the way things are done in this thing are different. Here's my question:
I am currently rooted and running a rom with a custom kernel. If I use Odin to flash the official software, will I also need to replace the kernel separately or will flashing the official software also restore the original kernel?
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Odin will replace everything, including your kernel.

Thanks for the response. I got confused because I saw posts saying that some kernels were interchangeable but I didn't know if they meant that you would have to flash the kernel after you flash the rom or if you just flash a new rom and the kernel remains. Appreciate the response.

You have to flash kernal only on cmw versions and not all of them read the pre requisites it will tell you if the cwm version either do not or do.have a kernal included for example humble 5 cwm version I.believe u.have to flash a kernal prior to rebooting or stock recovery will over write cwm happened to me and learned my.lesson the hard way !!!
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Okay...so flashing the stock file will also get rid of CWM, right?

SGS4G Android 2.2 rec 3e. Do I have to flash kernel and modem before flashing custom?

Phone is rooted, CWM installed latest, recovery e3 does not check signatures.
Can I just create nandroid backup, wipe phone and install this one rom for example?

AjvarXX said:
Phone is rooted, CWM installed latest, recovery e3 does not check signatures.
Can I just create nandroid backup, wipe phone and install this one rom for example?
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Yep.. You take a backup, wipe cache,data and dalvik cache. You are ready to flash your custom rom.. But while changing kernels you gotta flash your stock rom+stock kernel then root then flash new kernel then the custom rom.

haridevil99 said:
Yep.. You take a backup, wipe cache,data and dalvik cache. You are ready to flash your custom rom.. But while changing kernels you gotta flash your stock rom+stock kernel then root then flash new kernel then the custom rom.
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Appreciate. So I now will backup and wipe everything and then update it with kies mini. And then will ask more about custom stuff, am I doing right?
The problem about SGS4G is that it is WAY TOO MUCH information about it as well as kernels, mods, articles and you are lost because some of them conflicts with other.
P.S. I spent a week for going into Android stuff and Galaxy S.

AjvarXX said:
Appreciate. So I now will backup and wipe everything and then update it with kies mini. And then will ask more about custom stuff, am I doing right?
The problem about SGS4G is that it is WAY TOO MUCH information about it as well as kernels, mods, articles and you are lost because some of them conflicts with other.
P.S. I spent a week for going into Android stuff and Galaxy S.
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Well.. If you were talking bout updating your stock rom using kies... I dont see any use of that if you are going to flash a custom rom. Its just mere waste of time.

haridevil99 said:
Well.. If you were talking bout updating your stock rom using kies... I dont see any use of that if you are going to flash a custom rom. Its just mere waste of time.
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it's because 2.2 version is so hard for modding that I didn't risk to update from it.
Now I have modded kernel on stock 2.3.6. And thinking about what ROM to use.
Here is a link I found recently and it is so very helpful! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716

AjvarXX said:
it's because 2.2 version is so hard for modding that I didn't risk to update from it.
Now I have modded kernel on stock 2.3.6. And thinking about what ROM to use.
Here is a link I found recently and it is so very helpful! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716
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The guide seems good enough but a bit more complicated that it should be. Anyway here are two tips or info for you. First, whatever you do, have Odin and Stock Firmware ready to flash coz when everything else fails, Odin to the rescue and also flash stock firmware (Rom+kernel) whenever you change kernel as changing kernels without doing so removes root access and you cant apply root update on a custom kernel unless it has pre root access. Second, you dont need any kind of manager to flash firmwares and updates. CWM is a replacement to all. But its all your choice.