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Like everybody else, I've been waiting for official froyo for a loooong time.... If samsung of att don't release it by next week, I'll flash my cappy with cutom rom...
Any one wants to give me an advice which rom is the most reliable and widely used?? Also, please post a link to get it??? Thanks in advance.:
I just recently started flashing ROMs and Serendipity has been running great. I suggest you head on over to the Development forum and:
1) Read the guide. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
2) Read the comments from the different ROM threads to see which one seems stable.
Any one of DesignGears roms are extremely popular.
Perception:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897538
Cognition: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
I personally use Darkys as I love the look and feel and I have perfect gps with it.
Darky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890429
My vote is for Darkys as I use it day to day and love it. I've used both perception and cognition and I liked perception the best of the two. However the version I was running was older and I had an undervolted kernel so I don't know how the newer ones perform.
minlee85 said:
Like everybody else, I've been waiting for official froyo for a loooong time.... If samsung of att don't release it by next week, I'll flash my cappy with cutom rom...
Any one wants to give me an advice which rom is the most reliable and widely used?? Also, please post a link to get it??? Thanks in advance.:
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Just so you know, everyone has a different opinion in terms of roms. First off, learn what you're doing, then you can flash whatever rom catches your eye. That way you can figure out which one you want most.
What are you waiting for? The captivate has had froyo for months
minlee85 said:
Like everybody else, I've been waiting for official froyo for a loooong time.... If samsung of att don't release it by next week, I'll flash my cappy with cutom rom...
Any one wants to give me an advice which rom is the most reliable and widely used?? Also, please post a link to get it??? Thanks in advance.:
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You have a lot to learn before you start flashing Roms. This is your first post and even if you are a lurker you would know where to find the info on what to do. Please do your own research and where to find Roms because you will eventually run in to the issue of a soft brick and no one wants you to not know what to do in that point. Read as much as you can before doing anything, unless you don't care if you get stuck and have time to troubleshoot. But don't ask for links because all you need to do is look in the dev section for the Roms.
I appreciate your concern....just so you know, I've been reading and researching the threads for months, I've already rooted and sideloaded my phone....just didn't have a chance to register until now... I love this forum and want to get involved in actively.. I'm not the person who selfishly get waht he wants and just leave...
secretasianman said:
I just recently started flashing ROMs and Serendipity has been running great. I suggest you head on over to the Development forum and:
1) Read the guide. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
2) Read the comments from the different ROM threads to see which one seems stable.
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Thanks!!! that's great..
nybmx said:
Any one of DesignGears roms are extremely popular.
Perception:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897538
Cognition: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
I personally use Darkys as I love the look and feel and I have perfect gps with it.
Darky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890429
My vote is for Darkys as I use it day to day and love it. I've used both perception and cognition and I liked perception the best of the two. However the version I was running was older and I had an undervolted kernel so I don't know how the newer ones perform.
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Thank you for your advice...I've heard about perception and cognition but I'm not familiar with Darkys...what would you say the difference??? Thanks again...
Start with a clean rom like serendipity & make sure you read instructions from all roms that way you can see which steps are most important and which ones are just special instructions to that specific rom. Do as much research as u can bare & don't do anything stupid you'll be fine
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What are you waiting for? The captivate has had froyo for months
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No it hasn't and you know it. He's talking about an official release, not a hacked-up ROM based upon beta code or code for different hardware (I9000).
No need to be cocky.
Minlee, multi-quote your posts instead of triple posting.
I've started running custom ROMs. Tried both Perception and Serendipity for like 1 day each, and so far, I'm liking Perception more. But I'm not going to flash again unless I have to as I have some problems where I'm getting my calls dropped.
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No it hasn't and you know it. He's talking about an official release, not a hacked-up ROM based upon beta code or code for different hardware (I9000).
No need to be cocky.
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geokilla said:
Minlee, multi-quote your posts instead of triple posting.
I've started running custom ROMs. Tried both Perception and Serendipity for like 1 day each, and so far, I'm liking Perception more. But I'm not going to flash again unless I have to as I have some problems where I'm getting my calls dropped.
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I heard Perception is based on I9000 not SGH-I897.. Did you have any problem like dropped calls or anything??? When you flash the rom, did you have to flash the modem and kernel separately or just flash the rom and it takes care everything???
minlee85 said:
I heard Perception is based on I9000 not SGH-I897.. Did you have any problem like dropped calls or anything??? When you flash the rom, did you have to flash the modem and kernel separately or just flash the rom and it takes care everything???
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Rom does everything. Dropped calls are not an issue for me, but reach phone is different
I have very limited experience (I've tried 7 or 8 ROMS) but I've found the GT-I9000 based ROMS to be the best of the bunch, so far.
W/Cezar's I had to switch modems (receptions was awesome when I did) and it was good-to-go. It was the least buggy of any flavor ROM I have sampled- not sure with Doc & Stefunel's ROM Kitchen brew I mashed up yesterday (I need more time with it)- It works better than the official 2.1 or "official" leak of 2.2, or any of it's derivatives, that's for sure.
I'll say this to the OP:
Coming from a pedestrian fan of tech and total phone "hacking" noob-
The warranty is really your only concern. You can totally fail at everything (outside of a hard brick) including loosing all data and get the device back to stock in an couple hours- that's if you reload your apps one-by-one.
I botched an install and I was freaked out, for about a minute. Then I did some searching here.
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10497672#post10497672 is why my patience has yet to run out. I'd rather wait than go through these troubles. Plus, the devs here do a good job so try one of those and be happy.
DARKYY
minlee85 said:
Thank you for your advice...I've heard about perception and cognition but I'm not familiar with Darkys...what would you say the difference??? Thanks again...
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I love Darkyy's ROM.. Cognition is captivate based... Perception is I9000 based with a captivate kernel. Darkyy's ROM is I9000 based. But you need to flash a captivate kernel and a captivate modem. There is also a ported version of Darkyy's ROM.
Original ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814091
Cappy ported: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890429
The features are:
Based on official XXJPY
Integrated Voodoo [v69.3] Kernel (Support for i9000T)
- Integrated ClockworkMod [CWM]
- Converts all partitons toEXT4
-Startup Tweaks
- 339MB RAM
- v8.0 and up >> BLN Support
Integrated Support for a Custom Boot Animation
- Pre-installed Nexus S Boot Animation
Biggest APN file for instant internet / MMS access
4 Lockscreens to choose from [AOSP / Samsung / Puzzle / Epic]
Recovery 2e to flash unsigned update.zip's like CWM
Updated Apps [Flash Player, Maps, Gmail, YouTube]
YouTube 'GingerBread' Version
Tweaked Settings [Themed]
Tweaked 'build.prop'
- Fingerprint for Market changed to show all protected apps
2 awesome (Homescreens) Launchers
- 3D Gingerbread Launcher
- TouchWiz Froyo
Modded System Apps:
- Hacked Camera with Power-Button Mapping & Low % Shooting [by fr4gg0r]
- Modded Phone App - no more ascending ringtone
- Gallery3D // heavily modded // Stock Samsung Icon [extremly fast // using way less battery than Samsung's one]
- Added Screenfilter to go below the standard brightness [saves a lot of battery & is easy on the eyes in the night!]
Useful apps added & updated
- SuperUser
- Spare Parts
- SGS Tools
- SGS Toolbox
- SGS Info
3 Keyboards
- Samsung Stock 2.2.1 Keyboard
- Latest Swype Keyboard
- Android 2.3 Gingerbread Keyboard [working dictionary!]
Many languages supported, QWERTZ + QWERTY.
Various features
- Fixed signal bars for better reception
- Advanced Shutdown / Power Menu [Now with Reboot,Recovery & Download
Android 2.3 Gingerbread Look & Feel
High Quality Gingerbread Experience [redesigned in v7.8!] // Modified by me (thanks to jim_panse, gtg465x, scheichuwe, vukandric, dwillMuffc and more!)
- Redesigned Notification Bar
- Sleek Custom Wallpapers
- Some Apps have been themed like Gingerbread
New "Design Content" [icons & docks] on your internal SD-Card to customize your phone even further.
- Windows Phone 7 High Quality Icons
- New professional wallpaper
- Original Nexus S Ringtones
- Original Nexus S Boot Animation [completely smooth]
minlee85 said:
I heard Perception is based on I9000 not SGH-I897.. Did you have any problem like dropped calls or anything??? When you flash the rom, did you have to flash the modem and kernel separately or just flash the rom and it takes care everything???
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I didn't make any calls on Perception so I can't comment on that. With Serendipity 2.0 with JL2 modem, I'm getting dropped calls when I receive them, not making them. Have yet to find out why that's the case and I've posted in a couple places.
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I didn't make any calls on Perception so I can't comment on that. With Serendipity 2.0 with JL2 modem, I'm getting dropped calls when I receive them, not making them. Have yet to find out why that's the case and I've posted in a couple places.
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Couple of things, maybe try a different modem, make sure your apn is set up correctly
Running Doc's i9000 with jk4 modern for over 2 weeks no dropped calls at all in fact I feel call quality is better.
The captivate is a fickle beast every ones phone had a mind if their own
I've been doing a metric ton of reading before I flash my first rom. I was all set to flash P10.1 when I read a few posts by DG that led me to believe that Cog3 might be right around the corner.
Now I've read a further few posts by DG that state that Cognition is dead, because (his reasoning) Cog was always a pure-Captivate rom, & the latest rom he's working on isn't purely Captivate-based. Another few of his posts & accompanying posts by other users in those threads have led me to believe that whatever he's got cooking will be based on the "official" Rogers FroYo release. Maybe it's mostly based from that stock rom but has other add-ons from the i9000 line (i.e. to make it not pure-Captivate)?
After all my reading, I think that flashing a Captivate-based rom would be the way to go, if only for the fact that it would include the ability to utilize the sound processor (afaik, there aren't i9000-based roms that can do this, correct?).
Anyway, I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs since Monday waiting to see what DG's got in the oven & figured I'd start a thread to see what you all thought. This will be my first flash, & I don't plan to do a ton of switching around, so I want to get it "right" the first time.
tl;dr What's next from DG??
Just know that once you flash a rom, it wont be your last. DG roms are very good, along with Phoenix & Serendipity(my favorite).
I've flashed a handful of DG roms & I personally always find myself flashing back to one of Mikeys roms, he really knows his stuff.
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t-readyroc said:
I've been doing a metric ton of reading before I flash my first rom. I was all set to flash P10.1 when I read a few posts by DG that led me to believe that Cog3 might be right around the corner.
Now I've read a further few posts by DG that state that Cognition is dead, because (his reasoning) Cog was always a pure-Captivate rom, & the latest rom he's working on isn't purely Captivate-based. Another few of his posts & accompanying posts by other users in those threads have led me to believe that whatever he's got cooking will be based on the "official" Rogers FroYo release. Maybe it's mostly based from that stock rom but has other add-ons from the i9000 line (i.e. to make it not pure-Captivate)?
After all my reading, I think that flashing a Captivate-based rom would be the way to go, if only for the fact that it would include the ability to utilize the sound processor (afaik, there aren't i9000-based roms that can do this, correct?).
Anyway, I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs since Monday waiting to see what DG's got in the oven & figured I'd start a thread to see what you all thought. This will be my first flash, & I don't plan to do a ton of switching around, so I want to get it "right" the first time.
tl;dr What's next from DG??
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This is what we all said before we popped the cherry!LOL
Well last I thought DesignGears was working on the Gingerbread ROM for Galaxy S Phone ported from the Nexus S. And Supercurio was working with the Cyanogen Team on the project as well so maybe they're all in kahootz now. They haven't posted an update on it in awhile so maybe it's coming along good.
But it would be nice to get ahold of that Rogers Froyo, at a good stable point. At least then we'd have everything built for our Captivates specifically.
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But it would be nice to get ahold of that Rogers Froyo, at a good stable point. At least then we'd have everything built for our Captivates specifically.
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Right, & I believe that this is what's happening now. The Rogers Froyo that was just officially released via Kies is what I think DG's working with.
Am I totally off-base w/the Captivate/i9000/sound processor bit?
& yeah, I know what you all mean about constantly switching around, but I really only flashed a handful of times w/my old HTC. Guess I'm lazy
I started off as a noob, and basically still am. My first flash was cog 2.8 I believe. Now its something different every other day. You can't stop yourself one you've started.
Its an addiction for sure. Best of luck flashing once and that's it. I hope that works better for you than it did for me.
I'm so addicted that I got my wife a captivate also so I can try things on hers to see the differences from what I'm running.
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I'm digging the work being done on the armani rom.
From a phone
As the poster above stated, many devs are working on an Armani JL1 rom right now. I am unsure what DG is doing/planning though. Just putting it out there.
Just like t-readyroc I've been holding off on my first flash. I don't think I can wait for official froyo any longer. I just keep thinking that once I flash a newer, more stable, rom will be released. So I don't know if I should wait or just take the plunge.
I'm still reading around on the most stable release. Any one have recommendations on a rom that is stable and easy to install.
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My choices before hearing that DG's latest release is imminent were Phoenix 3.0 & Perception 10.1. Now I'm also reading that Phoenix 3.5 is imminent. Bah!
Great, thanks t-readyroc for making my decision even harder. Lol
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t-readyroc said:
I've been doing a metric ton of reading before I flash my first rom. I was all set to flash P10.1 when I read a few posts by DG that led me to believe that Cog3 might be right around the corner.
Now I've read a further few posts by DG that state that Cognition is dead, because (his reasoning) Cog was always a pure-Captivate rom, & the latest rom he's working on isn't purely Captivate-based. Another few of his posts & accompanying posts by other users in those threads have led me to believe that whatever he's got cooking will be based on the "official" Rogers FroYo release. Maybe it's mostly based from that stock rom but has other add-ons from the i9000 line (i.e. to make it not pure-Captivate)?
After all my reading, I think that flashing a Captivate-based rom would be the way to go, if only for the fact that it would include the ability to utilize the sound processor (afaik, there aren't i9000-based roms that can do this, correct?).
Anyway, I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs since Monday waiting to see what DG's got in the oven & figured I'd start a thread to see what you all thought. This will be my first flash, & I don't plan to do a ton of switching around, so I want to get it "right" the first time.
tl;dr What's next from DG??
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I flashed my first rom the other day (Serendipity 2.0) from stock, and the difference has been NIGHT & DAY! It blows my mind that Samsung can put out somthing THAT crappy compared to what their device is capable of.
Then yesterday I flashed a new modem and kernel. I'm hooked.
What's the benefits of a new modem and kernel?
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t-readyroc said:
This will be my first flash, & I don't plan to do a ton of switching around, so I want to get it "right" the first time.
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yeah, right...
come back in a couple of months and read your own post, you will lol
JohnnyDanger said:
Just like t-readyroc I've been holding off on my first flash. I don't think I can wait for official froyo any longer. I just keep thinking that once I flash a newer, more stable, rom will be released. So I don't know if I should wait or just take the plunge.
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if you keep waiting for what's around the corner, you will never get anywhere. stop torturing yourself and flash something. if you don't like a rom, you can always go back to stock and try something else
For what its worth I think it would be great to have Supercurio's audio tweaks integrated into the FireBird Kernel. Truly an enhancement.
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if you keep waiting for what's around the corner, you will never get anywhere. stop torturing yourself and flash something. if you don't like a rom, you can always go back to stock and try something else
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See, for me, it's going to be the constant app/music/data restores every time that'll prevent me from being a flash-whore...
Anyway, to get back OT, one of the reasons I was really interested in P10.1 was the fact that the launcher works in landscape mode. Are there others that do the same?
& again back OT: Captivate/i9000 roms & the use (or lack thereof) of the Captivate's hardware audio processor - are there any kernels that work with i9000 roms that make use of it? Or are all i9000 roms stuck doing the processing in software?
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See, for me, it's going to be the constant app/music/data restores every time that'll prevent me from being a flash-whore...
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it takes about 20 minutes from start to finish to flash a new rom for the complete process.
I said the same thing, "gonna find my fav rom and stick with it" That was a few years and phones ago and still flashing like crazy lol
But see, flashing whole new roms for the most part is almost a waste of time. Because usually why do you flash a new rom?
From the looks of a lot of ROM threads, going from release to release all the changes a lot of times are the installed system apps, and the themes to go with them. Yes, occasionaly there is a bigger release that warrants a new kernel or something of that nature.
To me, as an end user, ROM's could all use the same base rom (which they don't) and most people wouldn't know the difference. So find a ROM that doesn't force close on you, and flash the themes and apps you want into your ROM.
Personally I went from Flashing every ROM out there, and then just sticking to one that works, is deodexed so I can do whatever I want to it, and won't cause me to throw my phone in the trash.
Just got a tweet from GalaxySSupport saying that the Captivate will be getting Froyo tomorrow. Think I will stick with my custom rom.
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I'll upgrade my wife's and see how that goes before I go back to stock.
I honestly don't know why you'd stick with your custom, it does not have the official source for our phone, just a well hacked up version from other phones. i don't have a computer so I can't flash very often. I've done it once, but from what I read, everyone seems to be happy with what the devs have been able to do with a makeshift source. btw this is my first post, but i've been reading for about 4 months. lol
I should clarify. I'm going to stick with roms like Phoenix or others, and update to a Rom that will be based off official source. I don't want to lose things like Mobile AP (for free at least) and the lag fixes. I might try the official release down the road, but I doubt I will stay with it.
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I've been sticking with stock because I've been reading alot of issues with bluetooth headset. Unfortunately I use that with my car (built-in bluetooth) and I really like that so I'd rather not lose it...
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I've been sticking with stock because I've been reading alot of issues with bluetooth headset. Unfortunately I use that with my car (built-in bluetooth) and I really like that so I'd rather not lose it...
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It works fine in some ROMS. ie Ryude Precision 3.5. I haven't tested BT dialing on my current ROM, but everything else with BT is working fine on Cognition 4.0. Just an FYI
BT dialing works fine for me on Andromeda 1.2.
ill flash back to stock, than back to custom cus i know the devs will come out with something farrrrr more b!tchen
That is awesome. Cool thing is, though, we should be seeing CM7 for the Cappy next week. We'll be on 2.3 while everyone else just updated to 2.2.
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I've been sticking with stock because I've been reading alot of issues with bluetooth headset. Unfortunately I use that with my car (built-in bluetooth) and I really like that so I'd rather not lose it...
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Supernova confirmed working with BT in car.
Several 2.2.1 roms will also enable bluetooth dialing from a headset which you can't do from stock.
I waited waited and waited until last sunday when I flashed serendipity on my captivate. Looking at the speed, UI and performance I will wait to see if the official froyo is any better (i doubt it). If it is impressive then I will flash back to stock (JF6) and update to froyo through kies mini but not happening tomorrow
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Does this mean source has been put out too? I thought GB/CM7 isnt possible until that comes out? The official release just means more Samsung based ROMS if im not mistaken
Serendipity is too cool..not going to go for the official froyo
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I've been using Preception 10.3 and it works fine with my bluetooth. They announced they would not be continuing development on Perception but I like what i have. I'll keep it until the Devs cook up something after they get the official source.
it's probably the same froyo that congnition 4 is based on...and with the lagfix on, and the really awesome roms and kernels available here...i m sure the stock froyo would suck!!!
and btw it wont be long before at&t and samsung pull down the froyo page cause of "bug fixes"..aha
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it's probably the same froyo that congnition 4 is based on...and with the lagfix on, and the really awesome roms and kernels available here...i m sure the stock froyo would suck!!!
and btw it wont be long before at&t and samsung pull down the froyo page cause of "bug fixes"..aha
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Nevermind the bloat and stock Samsung look, both suck in comparison to the work that some of the devs have done on this forum. It would be downgrading to go to stock 2.2 from a custom 2.2.1 ROM. Lol and like previous post who know knows how long ATT will actually have an Official release out before it starts bricking phones...
I'm actually surprised so many flashed ATT 2.2.
So who is still sticking to our awesome dev creations while awaiting a KB1 cooked rom (from source)?
Supernova here and can't give it up!
Why would I want captivate froyo? They did such a good job with jf6, and jh7. I will wait for the devs to use source and improve on it
Running ryudes kb1. No complaints here.
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Why would I want captivate froyo? They did such a good job with jf6, and jh7. I will wait for the devs to use source and improve on it
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Same here. There is no way I would trade Andromeda for a bloatware filled stock rom.
I've been very happy with Firefly (2.2 so far). Not planning to try the AT&T Froyo unless I find some super features not available on any custom ROM.
Andromeda 2.1 here, ain't turning back to stock.
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
Really loving my Perception 10.4, sad that DG isn't supporting anymore. Baffles me why so many on this forum are flashing the ATT rom
Runnin darky's ROM...extremely satisfied with it...waiting for Cog4 to incorporate more features and then am gonna flash that..also waiting for MIUI and CM7....stock at&t/samsung releases dont even come close to what the DEVs are cooking here....
EPIC AWESOME JOB!!!! u guys are greaat!
I am on a hand modified KB1 now. I was on Cognition 2.3b8 based off of JJ4 before that. I tried going from Cognition 2.3 to Perception (based off the Armani Captivate) for a couple of weeks, but ran into connection lost when fully charged and randomly issue. This turned my phone into a battery hog (as it searched for signal while without connection) and an unreliable communication device. After researching it, I realized that the issue is present in most non i897 ROMs, and went back to Cognition 2.3b8 (not Cognition 3.x, because it is a i896 base ROM). Since Cognition 4 and Torch 1.x were not available immediately after release, I decided to go back to my old hand tuned stock setup, with KB1 as a base. I am very happy with what I have . I do miss a few niceties like extended power button menu, battery indicator mod, and lock screen tweaks, but not enough to flash the custom KB1 ROMs yet. I will likely make the switch once Samsung releases the source code for KB1, and custom ROMs start putting in some fixes like Voodoo Color, Sound, and BLN, which are not possible by hand editing system files.
Firefly 2.3 + Awesome modem. Why would I ever want to flash more crap/bloatware onto my phone. Samsung doesn't release very good "updates", and ATT adds to their failures. I'll stick with my ROMs thank you
I'm running Serendipity 5.11. Why downgrade to the AT&T release?
Most are using 2.2.1 as a base for cooked ROMs so AT$T's 2.2 would be a step backwards. Not even worth developing IMO.
AT$T = Too little too late......
I just got my captivate today and as I watched the usps tracking site and read the reports of the long awaited froyo, I felt so lucky that I wouldn't have to wait.
However, after fifteen minutes with eclair I knew that I'd be on fire fly 2.3 by the end of the day.
So no stock for me period.
I must say the idea of using kies wasn't encouraging at all.
Thank you tireless devs for saving me from the doldrums of stock bloated firmware!
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<--------------this guy is fat and happy on Serendipity 5.11. AT&T Bloatware?? NO WAY! Speed? Hell yeah! Lag? Not me!
Bruce Inman said:
Most are using 2.2.1 as a base for cooked ROMs so AT$T's 2.2 would be a step backwards. Not even worth developing IMO.
AT$T = Too little too late......
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AT&T i897 Codebase Pros:
Audience chip enabled
No network compatibility issues
No need for adding rotation fixes, button fixes, etc. in the kernel, and thus less chance of coding errors
Better rendering by 2.2 browser without checkerboarding
Bluetooth static issues do not exist
AT&T i897 Codebase Cons:
No HSUPA (HSDPA works)
Less bloatware to remove to begin with
Lack of fixes from android 2.2.1 codebase
Fewer options available for tweaking due to carrier locked ROM
Fewer developers working on uncovered issues compared to i9000
You can't just ignore the native device ROM because of the minor version downgrade.
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AT&T i897 Codebase Pros:
Audience chip enabled
No network compatibility issues
No need for adding rotation fixes, button fixes, etc. in the kernel, and thus less chance of coding errors
Better rendering by 2.2 browser without checkerboarding
Bluetooth static issues do not exist
AT&T i897 Codebase Cons:
No HSUPA (HSDPA works)
Less bloatware to remove to begin with
Lack of fixes from android 2.2.1 codebase
Fewer options available for tweaking due to carrier locked ROM
Fewer developers working on uncovered issues compared to i9000
You can't just ignore the native device ROM because of the minor version downgrade.
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At this time it its not just a minor version downgrade. Devs have been working on and improving 2.2.1 for months. Advancements through development make it a major downgrade.
Source may provide great improvements
I waited for the official 2.2 rom. one reason was seeing all the post about how some flashed a rom and something stopped working. Then there was all the rigging you had to do to get things like the market to to work because the Captiviate wasn't "officially" on 2.2 yet. I am hoping some of the devs here will take the official rom and fix it.
Plus my gps and such worked fine right out the box so I decided to wait until official 2.2 to start tricking out my phone.
I am running Pargaon RC6 and would never go back to stock 2.2. There are some advantages to go with the stock, but more advantages running a custom rom to me...I will wait until the developers use the stock source to improve the custom roms!
mcord11758 said:
At this time it its not just a minor version downgrade. Devs have been working on and improving 2.2.1 for months. Advancements through development make it a major downgrade.
Source may provide great improvements
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Most of those are likely patachable into the 2.2 Captivate base as needed, once Samsung makes the source code available. Some of these improvements were related to making the non native 2.2.1 based code work on the Captivate in the first place, and might not be needed for the native 2.2 code.
rajendra82 said:
Most of those are likely patachable into the 2.2 Captivate base as needed, once Samsung makes the source code available. Some of these improvements were related to making the non native 2.2.1 based code work on the Captivate in the first place, and might not be needed for the native 2.2 code.
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It will take a while to be able to patch every thing, thus current roms still better option. In my opinion
Hi all,
I need a bit of advice. My wife and I have had the Captivate since this time last year. We came over from the iPhone 3G to the Captivate and loved the amount of tweaking you could do. From the beginning, I went through 4 phones in the first month with the random shut down issue, but my Wife's was fine for the first six months she had it. She is on her second Captivate now and is having problem after problem. Alarms not going off, random shut downs, wi-fi not turning on/off, phone won't dial a number and won't hang up when you try to end the call, phone takes for ever to start up on a reboot, drops network and won't reconnect without re-starting and so on. Needless to say she is pretty frustrated with it and wants to get something different and is leaning back to the iPhone. I am having some issues with mine all similar to what she is having, but not nearly as often. We are both running the stock Froyo, but rooted.
I have a few questions:
1. Would you suspect this to be a problem with the hardware or something maybe a ROM could fix? If a ROM could fix it, any suggestions for a reliable ROM? (I've flashed ROM's in the past to mess around, but haven't kept up with them in over a year.)
2. Is this a common problem with Android (i.e. not reliable)?
3. If it isn't a common problem of Android not being reliable, what other new Android phones from AT&T are good.
Sorry for all of the questions, and thanks for any input.
Dave
I've been on custom ROMs for a long time now, and I've noticed that they are often faster, have better battery life and depending on the ROM you choose, can be more reliable than stock. I'd give it a try, since worst case, you can go back to stock or trade the phone in anyway.
I'm currently using the Illuminance ROM and it is very good. Pretty reliable, fast and excellent battery life.
Other older roms that I've used are Pinnacle and Cognition. All 3 of these offer a smooth stock experience that's not too flashy with radical themes or anything.
Good luck!
1. ask yourself this questions do u like tweaking stuff, if so go with android. else apple or windows
2. i have captivate for about 15 months now, i have never had random shutdown issues, so random shutdown could be mostly software related. I'm running cyanogen7 and its like new phone altogether. pure android experience
3. new android phones that are coming out are much stable than the older phones, bcoz phones like captivate have been rushed to market to survive the Apples rally.
if u want pure android experience go the Galaxy nexus (the latest android from Google). with google phones u can be assured that your os will upgraded as soon as Google releases latest OS. i have heard pretty good reviews about Ice Cream sandwich
What's Froyo?
A clean install of a hot new ROM will give it new life. It shouldn't be unstable though. Maybe it's all the bloatware and apps installed or some files got corrupted. Backup first but try not to reinstall as much as possible if you go with a new ROM. No system data should be restored on a different version anyway.
If your due an upgrade do so and do some research on new phones as far as fixing problems the cappys always have had minor issues a new rom with a clean install works cm7 or cognition
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Cm7's battery life is garbage. The cm team themselves will admit that. It doesn't contain the proper hardware drivers from Samsung. you guys might want to mention that before suggesting that to a noob...
op Sounds those problems sound all software related. I would flash a leaked gingerbread stock firmware as a baseline, then if all is good you could stick with that or flash a custom gingerbread ROM over that if you wanted a more tweaked experience.
Agree with what the others have said... try upgrading to a Gingerbread ROM. There are several out there, most all of the JVT ones are very mature and stable. The latest KK4 ones are pretty nice as well but just being released so maybe not the best 1st choice.
I somewhat disagree..I found all the gb Rome to be less than stable, maybe cuz they use so much ram. That being said I put a custom froyo on mine before I donated it to my father-in-law and he hasn't had any trouble out of it. Also, att's policy is if you have went through 3 phones during your warranty period you can get it replaced with another model..you may have to ask.
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I somewhat disagree..I found all the gb Rome to be less than stable, maybe cuz they use so much ram. That being said I put a custom froyo on mine before I donated it to my father-in-law and he hasn't had any trouble out of it. Also, att's policy is if you have went through 3 phones during your warranty period you can get it replaced with another model..you may have to ask.
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I have to say, the GB roms lack of stability is directly related to the lack of source code for the captivate gingerbread rom.
If you are looking for a stable Froyo experience go with Andromeda3. Ive been on it for months now and really have enjoyed it.
First, thanks to all of you for the input and advice, I appreciate it.
I did end up flashing I897UCKK1 Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread from the Stock ROMs sticky over the weekend. So far so good. It seems to be working well and the phone seems much more responsive, to the point that I'm thinking of doing the same with my phone as well. I'm going to test it out on the wife's phone for a month or so, but I hope this fixes all of her issues and saves me from having to get her something new.
Thanks again,
Dave
If you like the stock GB ROM, you'll love Illuminance 3.0--very fast, great battery life, and smooth.
Or try pinnacle 1.3 close to stock, fast, and great battery life.
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Agreed about Pinnacle--very reliable and a favorite of many.
You might also want to give a try with cyanogenmod 7, I liked it more than other roms. But it may depend on your choice. Thats the beauty of android, you have choices and most of them won't let you down.
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dbs179 said:
First, thanks to all of you for the input and advice, I appreciate it.
I did end up flashing I897UCKK1 Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread from the Stock ROMs sticky over the weekend. So far so good. It seems to be working well and the phone seems much more responsive, to the point that I'm thinking of doing the same with my phone as well. I'm going to test it out on the wife's phone for a month or so, but I hope this fixes all of her issues and saves me from having to get her something new.
Thanks again,
Dave
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Great, happy you've found your answer.