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Kernel/ota questions

I've successfully recovered my tablet using this method. I was trying to update my TF using the batch script method and somehow managed to flash an outdated kernel. I know this because Asus tech support told me that was the reason my TF wasn't receiving the ota to 3.2. However, Asus tech support also told me that I could flash a new kernel by downloading the source code onto my tablet, then the TF would automatically recognize the [.rar] file and install my new kernel; which didn't work out as you might imagine.
I am now on official 3.1 8.4.4.11.and my kernel is v 2.6.36.3-00011-g3eb19ex And I can't get the OTA update. At one time I had official 3.2 [after previously flashing stock 3.1] but decided to try to root when I found out Netflix wasn't officially supported like the EEE pad site says it does.
Every time I try the batch script method, I end up stuck on the eee pad logo screen. Adb is working as well as apx drivers. Ultimate goal here is stock 3.2 rooted with netflix, but at this point I'd settle for stock official 3.2.
Any ideas? Tia

You may get help if you post your QUESTIONS in the correct forum.
This is the development forum....not Q&A.
Sent from my Jailbroken iPhone 4 using Tapatalk.

Thanks for the input. I just felt that that based on the content of the question, it would be better suited here.

you could try the zip file from the thread titled [OTA]Stock 3.2 zip file
And +1 on wrong section. This is not related to developing a new ROM or features for the Eee Pad.

I'm trying to avoid flashing CWM, that's where I end up bricking it.

jdmnash said:
I'm trying to avoid flashing CWM, that's where I end up bricking it.
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I would suggest you to try Nvflash. it is the easiest way to root that tf.

I think the relationship between nvflash and the TF is complicated.
There are a few bootloaders out there, including the one used by custom roms, as well as the 4 stock ones.
My theory is that the kernel images in the boot and recovery images have to match the bootloader that is on the TF.
Throw in the fact that the bootloader is only written using the nvflash --create command or during the OTA update, and we have TFs with all kinds of different bootloaders going around that won't match what people are flashing. I think this is why CWM breaks whenever there is a stock OTA that rewrites the bootloader. I think most people brick trying to go back to stock from a custom rom. Going from stock to custom usually isn't a problem because the compatible bootloader is flashed in the rooting process.
Is this the first time we've seen an completely unlocked bootloader on Android?
sent from my cyanogen(mod) vision

jdmnash said:
Thanks for the input. I just felt that that based on the content of the question, it would be better suited here.
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No. Android Development is for "DEVELOPMENT" does this thread have any kind of release? No.
That's why there's a sticky thread that says,
[REF] SEARCH BEFORE POSTING!! All Questions Go In The Q&A FORUM!!
Originally Posted By: mskip
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ok folks i get it. I'm sorry. Is there anything I can do right now about accidently posting this in the wrong forum? Please forgive me. Mods feel free to move the thread or ban me or both. Whatever the normal punishment is.

Use the NVFlash unroot method here:
http://tabletroms.com/forums/showthread.php?1071-Asus-Transformer-NVFlash-Stock-3.1-Recovery-Roms
That will get it back to stock everything with 8.4.4.5. Then, you can manually install 8.4.4.11 with the download on the Asus website. After that it will recognize the OTA update to 8.6.5.6. Once you've done all that, use the Batch Script for a quick root, and you're done. I did this today. As long as you follow all the steps, it's a breeze.

I don't think it will recognize the OTA update to 8656. Roach's update will work, but not the stock update.
sent from my cyanogen(mod) vision

It will recognize it, because if you follow all the steps I listed, you're completely stock until you run the batch script to root 3.2. I did this myself on my transformer today.

My OP is not very clear, but that is exactly the steps I've followed to get to where I am today. I've given it 2 days to detect the new update and i've got nothing. I'm currently sitting on stock 8.4.4.11 waiting for the OTA.

kingwp1 said:
It will recognize it, because if you follow all the steps I listed, you're completely stock until you run the batch script to root 3.2. I did this myself on my transformer today.
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How did you root before and what were you running before you went back to stock 8445?
sent from my cyanogen(mod) vision

stock 3.2. I was trying to get rooted 3.2 to get netflix

jdmnash said:
stock 3.2. I was trying to get rooted 3.2 to get netflix
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Did you ever make a backup with CWM when you had 3.2?

no it was stock 3.2 firmware/recovery
I'm making progress. I'm now on rooted 8.4.4.11... still trying to get to 3.2

[Q] Updating while rooted

I have seen a few posts in regards to people asking about updating from a rooted device but I never seen the answer I been looking for.
Example: I rooted my Motorola XOOM Tablet, Android 3.2 by following these instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1170760
"[GUIDE][US WIFI & 3G] How To Root Your Xoom From 3.2 Stock [PC & Mac]" posted by jase33
IF say for example version 3.3 comes out.. IF I want to upgrade to version 3.3 from my rooted 3.2, Am I able to click upgrade when it announces it? While rooted and unlocked?
I am not using custom ROMS. I just followed those steps provided in the link above.
Do I have to restore to faculty settings, re-lock, then upgrade, then repeat the same process to root all over again? or can I just click upgrade.
Other posts started talking about having custom ROMs, and there wasn't a defendant answer that I saw that was reassuring to my question.
Thanks for your Help

So far ive not had little success updating using the built in update feature, when 3.2 came out I tried updating but it crapped out when booting, so I had to delete the user data, loosing all my apps in the process. But this is based only on the update from 3.1 to 3.2 both stock roms. P.s. i used the same instructions u did on an AU Xoom.
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dayyanj said:
So far ive not had little success updating using the built in update feature, when 3.2 came out I tried updating but it crapped out when booting, so I had to delete the user data, loosing all my apps in the process. But this is based only on the update from 3.1 to 3.2 both stock roms. P.s. i used the same instructions u did on an AU Xoom.
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If your Xoom is unlocked but also not rooted/completely stock, you can get OTA updates. If rooted, even stock rom/kernel, you don't get or can't install updates. But if rooted, never fear, our developers, including the Tiamat team have made the updates available to us super fast.
Anyway, you never need to re-lock unless you plan to return the Xoom under warranty, for repair or replacement.

no offense but it sounds like you don't know much bout this sort of stuff...you believe that you are not using custom rom but are not sure?? You need to read up and figure out the basics...if you are using custom rom..absolutely do not accept an over the air update. Read up on what you are doing unless you want a600 dollar paperweight

I am actually more than 100% sure I am not using a custom ROM..
I never downloaded any custom ROMs to be honest that’s how I know.
The only thing I wasn’t sure of at first was the ADB commands but when I was rooting for the first time. But after I read the tutorials it was as easy as riding a bike. As for the small Linux commands used in the shell, from the tutorial that I followed, seemed pretty super basic. I had been using Linux for 6 years, recompiling kernels etc so I don’t have any doubts...
I am not too worried about bricking anything… My question was only related to the OTA updates with the rooted stocked. That’s all.
Thank you everyone for your responses, they answered my question. And thanks for the concerned about my device.

[Q] ALL steps to root Motorola Xoom 4.0.4?

So I recently got a Xoom and would like to root it. I can easily search through forums and follow instructions, but I want to be sure on what I have to do. I've rooted and flashed several Android devices already, so I'm no newbie, but once I bricked an Atrix so since then I've always been super cautious.
So now.. how do I root and install CWM on the Xoom? It's on 4.0.4 OTA.
Do I have to unlock the bootloader first?
Specific references to threads and step by step instructions preferred. Thank you!

xFrozen said:
So I recently got a Xoom and would like to root it. I can easily search through forums and follow instructions, but I want to be sure on what I have to do. I've rooted and flashed several Android devices already, so I'm no newbie, but once I bricked an Atrix so since then I've always been super cautious.
So now.. how do I root and install CWM on the Xoom? It's on 4.0.4 OTA.
Do I have to unlock the bootloader first?
Specific references to threads and step by step instructions preferred. Thank you!
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Yes, you will have to unlock first. There's a bit to set up first, but if you read the instructions and get everything you need set up in one place it's pretty easy. Also, it's actually hard to really brick a Xoom. A few have managed but it's not easy.
Try this guide...everything should still work fine, and it explains a lot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798
Good luck!

Hello Everyone im new to the boards here
I'm Trying to root my Friends Xoom for him. He told me he already started the process and unlocked stuff but cant flash anything or succesfully root. I dont know what he actually did and to be honest neither does he..... * put a gun in my mouth haha*
So my question is can i just follow the guide posted and start from the very first step and redo everything and still be ok ?? He has it updated to OTA ICS 4.0.4 I found several guides for 4.0.3 but im not sure if those instructions would still work if anyone could clarify this for me i'd greatly appreciate it

okantomi said:
Yes, you will have to unlock first. There's a bit to set up first, but if you read the instructions and get everything you need set up in one place it's pretty easy. Also, it's actually hard to really brick a Xoom. A few have managed but it's not easy.
Try this guide...everything should still work fine, and it explains a lot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798
Good luck!
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Ah, thanks, it worked
Dooms87 said:
Hello Everyone im new to the boards here
I'm Trying to root my Friends Xoom for him. He told me he already started the process and unlocked stuff but cant flash anything or succesfully root. I dont know what he actually did and to be honest neither does he..... * put a gun in my mouth haha*
So my question is can i just follow the guide posted and start from the very first step and redo everything and still be ok ?? He has it updated to OTA ICS 4.0.4 I found several guides for 4.0.3 but im not sure if those instructions would still work if anyone could clarify this for me i'd greatly appreciate it
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I also had a problem after unlocking. It unlocked fine, but then I couldn't flash CWM through fastboot. My problem was the Application Variable thing, I assume. What I did was go to the platform tools folder (which for me was C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools ). I held shift and right clicked Platform Tools, then pressed "open command window here" and then I flashed CWM through fastboot in that window. Just make sure the CWM image is in the Platform Tools folder, along with fastboot.exe.
If you have any issues with that, PM me and I'll try to help.

omg Frozen thank you so most for that post i literally had the same problem CWM would not flash till i did exactly what you said in the last post thank you soo much greatly appreciated

There is one VERY important piece that is left out of most threads.
The newest Xooms that were release overwrite CWM files upon reboot unless you take specific steps to make sure it doesn't... e.g.
have the update.zip you want to use preloaded on the sdcard via pc
or
use a usb with a otg and a version of CWM that can apply update.zip from the USB drive.
Also beware of threads that dont mention what version of the OS they are for. For example its very easy to root your device, but it be on an on 3.x OS and then the OS will update it to 4.04 on the next boot cycle, and wont give you a chance to pick your ROM update. As a result your device is not rooted at this point, and CWM is not installed because you didnt have root in time to move these files:
adb shell mv /system/recovery-from-boot.p.old /system/recovery-from-boot.p
adb shell mv /system/etc/install-recovery.sh.old /system/etc/install-recovery.sh
while in root.
Really sucks.
So in a nutshell those with the latest Xoom tablets that were released, must make sure you find a update.zip that is compatible with ICS 4.04 and then get it to your SDCARD or USB Drive via any method possible - and then flash the right CWM that supports what you want to do, then catch that as it reboots the very first time but pushing the down button and then up button of the volume controls, and then you can install the root (update.zip).... then if all is well you will be able to boot normally, and then go back and get into CWM and install the ROM of your delight.
Experts feel free to chime in so I don't mislead anyone. I wouldn't follow the above advice until an expert puts their AOK on it.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242241
Any Xoom any update BTW I had my mz601( Telstra ) on offical ics rooted by this method.

A Different "Root Jelly Bean" question

This might belong in the other "[Root] Jelly Bean" thread - I'll leave that to the moderators to figure out.
Can anyone vouch for the veracity of this method?
tutznet. com/ root-asus-transformer-tf700-android-41-jelly-bean. html (forgive the extra spaces - I'm too new to be able to post a URL.]
Honestly, I read all 39+ pages of that thread mentioned above, and I'm not confident I know what to do, and in what order, so I'm leery of trying it out. A noob like me can easily create an expensive brick if I screw it up. But this one seems sort of "plug-n-play" and is appealing for that reason. If you folks here validate it, I might try it out.

n4ogl said:
This might belong in the other "[Root] Jelly Bean" thread - I'll leave that to the moderators to figure out.
Can anyone vouch for the veracity of this method?
tutznet. com/ root-asus-transformer-tf700-android-41-jelly-bean. html (forgive the extra spaces - I'm too new to be able to post a URL.]
Honestly, I read all 39+ pages of that thread mentioned above, and I'm not confident I know what to do, and in what order, so I'm leery of trying it out. A noob like me can easily create an expensive brick if I screw it up. But this one seems sort of "plug-n-play" and is appealing for that reason. If you folks here validate it, I might try it out.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32293050&postcount=1
That would be a portion of the method laid out in the above thread...

n4ogl said:
This might belong in the other "[Root] Jelly Bean" thread - I'll leave that to the moderators to figure out.
Can anyone vouch for the veracity of this method?
tutznet. com/ root-asus-transformer-tf700-android-41-jelly-bean. html (forgive the extra spaces - I'm too new to be able to post a URL.]
Honestly, I read all 39+ pages of that thread mentioned above, and I'm not confident I know what to do, and in what order, so I'm leery of trying it out. A noob like me can easily create an expensive brick if I screw it up. But this one seems sort of "plug-n-play" and is appealing for that reason. If you folks here validate it, I might try it out.
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The instruction is assumed that you already unlocked and have custom recovery installed. If you provide your setup we can help.
1. Are you unlocked?
2. Do you have custom recovery installed like either twrp or cwm?
3. What os version you are running currently? I assumed you're on JB?

Thanks for the offer of assistance. I bought the TF700 on ICS, and immediately did the following (based on advice I hopefully gleaned correctly from this board):
- Factory Data Reset three times (by booting with the volume key held down, etc.), even wtih nothing personal done to it (like add my name as Owner, or install anything).
- Loaded the full update downloaded from the ASUS site and flashed (correct term?) accordingly. Those instructions, at least, I could figure out.
- Another FDR.
- Used as normal on the current version of JB. I believe it had a minor JB upgrade shortly after that, which I let it perform through the "You have an update" process.
As it sits, the TF700 works quite well for me, but I use Titanium Backup on my Droid Razr Maxx (for which I rooted using one of those "automated root" programs that worked well), and I'd like to use it here. And Root File Manager (also found on the Droid).
As a noob, the instructions for that other method (using CWM and SuperSU) look like they presume too much knowledge on my part of what to install and when, and I'm leery of creating an expensive brick. For example, there is something in there about "fastboot," but that is completely over my head.
buhohitr said:
The instruction is assumed that you already unlocked and have custom recovery installed. If you provide your setup we can help.
1. Are you unlocked?
2. Do you have custom recovery installed like either twrp or cwm?
3. What os version you are running currently? I assumed you're on JB?
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n4ogl said:
Thanks for the offer of assistance. I bought the TF700 on ICS, and immediately did the following (based on advice I hopefully gleaned correctly from this board):
- Factory Data Reset three times (by booting with the volume key held down, etc.), even wtih nothing personal done to it (like add my name as Owner, or install anything).
- Loaded the full update downloaded from the ASUS site and flashed (correct term?) accordingly. Those instructions, at least, I could figure out.
- Another FDR.
- Used as normal on the current version of JB. I believe it had a minor JB upgrade shortly after that, which I let it perform through the "You have an update" process.
As it sits, the TF700 works quite well for me, but I use Titanium Backup on my Droid Razr Maxx (for which I rooted using one of those "automated root" programs that worked well), and I'd like to use it here. And Root File Manager (also found on the Droid).
As a noob, the instructions for that other method (using CWM and SuperSU) look like they presume too much knowledge on my part of what to install and when, and I'm leery of creating an expensive brick. For example, there is something in there about "fastboot," but that is completely over my head.
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It's not that complicated, if you have someone leaded you. Again, I need you to answer the following question, so I can point you to the right direction; Do you plan to use custom rom/kernel? (if yes, you need to unlock your device, which void warantty) or you just want root?

buhohitr said:
It's not that complicated, if you have someone leaded you. Again, I need you to answer the following question, so I can point you to the right direction; Do you plan to use custom rom/kernel? (if yes, you need to unlock your device, which void warantty) or you just want root?
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All I want to do is root it. While I know there are some advantages to a custom ROM or Kernel, that's NOT what I forecast doing*. I plan to leave it on JB.
* = Caveat: Eventually ASUS will stop supporting this tablet, at which time I will probably look at custom ROMs if I still own it (and haven't EBay'd it).

n4ogl said:
All I want to do is root it. While I know there are some advantages to a custom ROM or Kernel, that's NOT what I forecast doing*. I plan to leave it on JB.
* = Caveat: Eventually ASUS will stop supporting this tablet, at which time I will probably look at custom ROMs if I still own it (and haven't EBay'd it).
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Since you already on JB, the only way you could root is to downgrade back to ICS (version .30). Here is general guide line:
1. Download full package firmware .30 from Asus site
2. Then use root tool to root,
3. Download and installed SuperSU to replace the old superuser
4. Download Voodoo OTA root keeper to preserve root (If you have a paid SuperSU version, you just have to click on "preserve root" and it automatically saved root for you).
5. Let the OTA upgrade to JB
6. Once done, use root keeper to restore root.
Here is the link to details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212

buhohitr said:
Since you already on JB, the only way you could root is to downgrade back to ICS (version .30). Here is general guide line:
1. Download full package firmware .30 from Asus site
2. Then use root tool to root,
3. Download and installed SuperSU to replace the old superuser
4. Download Voodoo OTA root keeper to preserve root (If you have a paid SuperSU version, you just have to click on "preserve root" and it automatically saved root for you).
5. Let the OTA upgrade to JB
6. Once done, use root keeper to restore root.
Here is the link to details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
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not true my friend
you can unroot without downgrading to version .30
just take a look in the general section there is a HOWTO
sent from my cutting board

jokapo said:
not true my friend
you can unroot without downgrading to version .30
just take a look in the general section there is a HOWTO
sent from my cutting board
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I think he's looking to ROOT, but not to unlock!

I rooted and unlocked allready on JB
sent from my cutting board

Could you share the steps/sequence (in detail, not like the way they are described in that 40+ page thread, which is (IMHO) sparsely)?
jokapo said:
I rooted and unlocked allready on JB
sent from my cutting board
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Might wanna try out this thread then http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969303

[Q]

Hi everyone
First off I would like to thank everyone who contributes on this board, I have been lurking for quite awhile even though I dont have any android devices, the reading is very interesting.
I have just got my first android device today delivered from BH Photo (I am in Australia) and have charged and powered it up. I have been reading on the forums about rooting and then unlocking. The android version appears to be 4.0.3 (ICS).
My questions are these:
Should I root this device and unlock the bootloader with ICS, then install TWRP and make a backup of it. Once this is done then update to JB? The firmware of the tablet is (I think this is right) IM74K:US_epad_9.4.5.26-20120720 and the kernel is 2.6.39.4 [email protected] #1
or
Update the device to JB then root it, but Im a bit confused with the unlocking part here what program is used to unlock the bootloader? Is it the Asus one? Also with rooting programs which one is more commonly used for both ICS and JB? Can I apply a manual update of JB using the Ausrtalian version instead of the US one.
Sorry for all the noob questions. I have read the index and after reading it still had some questions.
Thank you for your time

deathwalker01 said:
Hi everyone
First off I would like to thank everyone who contributes on this board, I have been lurking for quite awhile even though I dont have any android devices, the reading is very interesting.
I have just got my first android device today delivered from BH Photo (I am in Australia) and have charged and powered it up. I have been reading on the forums about rooting and then unlocking. The android version appears to be 4.0.3 (ICS).
My questions are these:
Should I root this device and unlock the bootloader with ICS, then install TWRP and make a backup of it. Once this is done then update to JB? The firmware of the tablet is (I think this is right) IM74K:US_epad_9.4.5.26-20120720 and the kernel is 2.6.39.4 [email protected] #1
or
Update the device to JB then root it, but Im a bit confused with the unlocking part here what program is used to unlock the bootloader? Is it the Asus one? Also with rooting programs which one is more commonly used for both ICS and JB? Can I apply a manual update of JB using the Ausrtalian version instead of the US one.
Sorry for all the noob questions. I have read the index and after reading it still had some questions.
Thank you for your time
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Welcome to the Community!
There are a few on-going threads regarding this same topic. You might want to read those and make sure you understand the lingo/jargon being used (like: fastboot, bootloader, Recovery, adb. etc) as well as what it's for before you start your hacking.
Some things to keep in mind
Currently to have Root access in JB, you need to get root in ICS then use OTA Keeper to maintain Root for JB update.
The Bootloader unlocker tool is from ASUS and needs to communicate with ASUS servers for it to unlock.
Unlocking the bootloader will void your warrenty. Make sure you have a good device before you do it.
You have a version of tablet (9.4.5.26) that is able to use NVFlash that can help recover your tablet during a soft brick.
You should use an update that is appropriate for your device. If it comes with US, stay with US. Installing an update for a different region might not cause problems but there is no guarantee. Best to avoid the possibility by staying with the region it comes with.
For some reading material, I think that my blog post might help give you some additional details. However, I highly suggest that it be used for research only until you are aware of exactly what you are trying to accomplish. Remember to ask questions if things are confusing or if you are wondering what needs to be done next. 'Tis better to ask and be delayed than to be over-eager and bricked.
Hope this helps you during your first steps of XDA Android hacking!

I just got my TF700 last week and I wanted cleanrom on it and this is the order of stuff I did:
1. Unlocked bootloader
2. Nvflash setup
3. Installed TWRP
4. Flashed official Asus update
5. I lost TWRP so I installed it again
6. Flashed cleanrom
Probably not the most efficient way, but it was easy to do and didn't take too long.

hong90 said:
I just got my TF700 last week and I wanted cleanrom on it and this is the order of stuff I did:
1. Unlocked bootloader
2. Nvflash setup
3. Installed TWRP
4. Flashed official Asus update
5. I lost TWRP so I installed it again
6. Flashed cleanrom
Probably not the most efficient way, but it was easy to do and didn't take too long.
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It's the most efficient way.

I have nothing to add except for the remark that NvFlash is key -- GET IT WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
I'm not even kidding here. It gives you 100% flexibility in doing whatever you wish (up- as well as downgrading, even the bootloader!) and provides a key benefit in recovering your device when that whale-sized piece of excrement hits the large ventilator running at top speed.

Thanks to everyone that has replied to my post. I have successfully rooted the tablet and unlocked the bootloader. Before I do anything else Im going to run NVflash and back it up. I have a quick question though. I have download NVFlash to my computer and extracted it. Do I need to copy it across to the tablet and then enter fastboot? I havent got an extenal sd card will it save the images to the tablet's hard drive?
Cheers
Deathwalker

i followed this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ypzUaKxvo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
i watched it before i actually did it once or twice to make sure i know what to do. you don't need an external sd card. following the fastboot steps will pull the files that you need onto the internal one in a folder

Last night I used NVFlash to make backup of the tablet. A big thank you to alienedd as I followed his blog and also the guide from androidmobi team and managed to get the img files done. Is there anyway to test bar for wiping the tablet?
Now all I have left to do is install OTA RootKeeper and TWRP, back up the existing tablet and then flash a custom ROM (Im thinking cleanrom)

You don't need OTA Rootkeeper anymore because you have unlocked you're bootloader. And custom roms like Cleanrom are already pre-rooted so after flashing the cleanrom you will have root anyway.