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myTouch 4G - the best phone to date

I finally got the mytouch today and i wasnt sure sure what to expext. But now i know.... this baby is a BEAST. Fastest phone i have ever used. The processor blows away the competition, by far! Internet wise, the 4G yeilds 6.5 mbps up 1.4 down. Also this the first Android phone that has smooth multitouch. Not choppy, and no lag. Also dont let pictures of this phone fool you, it is sleek and sexy. I got the black one. I definitely recommend it if you need a new phone or are thinking about getting one. What do you guys think?

bijanian said:
I finally got the mytouch today and i wasnt sure sure what to expext. But now i know.... this baby is a BEAST. Fastest phone i have ever used. The processor blows away the competition, by far! Internet wise, the 4G yeilds 6.5 kbps up 1.4 down. Also this the first Android phone that has smooth multitouch. Not choppy, and no lag. Also dont let pictures of this phone fool you, it is sleek and sexy. I got the black one. I definitely recommend it if you need a new phone or are thinking about getting one. What do you guys think?
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I checked it out in the T-Mobile store this evening. Seemed nice, but the UI really ircked me. It felt laggy and bloated, often lagging between the app drawer and menus. The device has nice hardware, to be sure, but it'll need perma-root to really shine.
I'm trying to decide whether I want to buy a G2 or MT4G, depends which gets full root first, I think. Or if the N2 rumors turn out to be true.
I can confirm the HSPA+ speeds are pretty snappy though. In Phoenix, the '4G' network is live, and I got similar speeds to what you got in the TMO store.

I might have to get one of these to accompany my G2... I like what I am seeing so far

Blackman778g said:
I might have to get one of these to accompany my G2... I like what I am seeing so far
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I have a MyTouch 4G and a G2.. I find myself having a hard time deciding between the two. The MyTouch is so powerful but I love stock Android.. They are both awesome devices.
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stop using espresso overlay and install launcher pro instead! works great and is SUPER FAST in the mytouch 4g!

This is by far the sickest phone I have ever used.
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Launcher pro plus is the way to go! This phone is More snappy than my rooted souped up nexus

Yes, launcher pro plus adds to what is already a great phone.

bijanian said:
I finally got the mytouch today and i wasnt sure sure what to expext. But now i know.... this baby is a BEAST. Fastest phone i have ever used. The processor blows away the competition, by far! Internet wise, the 4G yeilds 6.5 kbps up 1.4 down. Also this the first Android phone that has smooth multitouch. Not choppy, and no lag. Also dont let pictures of this phone fool you, it is sleek and sexy. I got the black one. I definitely recommend it if you need a new phone or are thinking about getting one. What do you guys think?
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Damn man, only 6.5 KBPS lol.

i must agree... my only disappointment is sense :/ i guess I'm just old fashion
lol and i know everyone says luncher pro but I perfer all aspects of stock (ie gallery for example)

quierotacobell said:
Damn man, only 6.5 KBPS lol.
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LLOL i was thinking the same thing.

If you try the phone at the store, remember that people have been screwing the demo phones up. The one at the store was so full of junk that it crawled.
The one I bought has been flawless. Even with Sense, and I came from an N1!

ekinnee said:
If you try the phone at the store, remember that people have been screwing the demo phones up. The one at the store was so full of junk that it crawled.
The one I bought has been flawless. Even with Sense, and I came from an N1!
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I noticed this as well, and it irritated me, so I went through and started uninstalling crap.
Wish I'd installed LP to test it out, but didn't think of it until I got home.
Torn on the G2 to MT4G. Had my Droid 1 for a year now and I'm itching for something better.

Im loving these speeds
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oh yea and Sprint. i know a place you can take your battery drain and 4G fee
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Bateluer said:
I noticed this as well, and it irritated me, so I went through and started uninstalling crap.
Wish I'd installed LP to test it out, but didn't think of it until I got home.
Torn on the G2 to MT4G. Had my Droid 1 for a year now and I'm itching for something better.
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I always do factory resets on them.
I've had a G2, wasn't impressed with the weight, hinge or keyboard. Basically it was a fat N1 that felt a bit speedier. In comparison, this MT4G is great, super fast, the HTC keyboard is better than stock and the screen is accurate.
All total I've had a Sprint Hero, EVO, G2, Vibrant, and N1. This MT4G is tops by far.

ekinnee said:
I always do factory resets on them.
I've had a G2, wasn't impressed with the weight, hinge or keyboard. Basically it was a fat N1 that felt a bit speedier. In comparison, this MT4G is great, super fast, the HTC keyboard is better than stock and the screen is accurate.
All total I've had a Sprint Hero, EVO, G2, Vibrant, and N1. This MT4G is tops by far.
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The MT4G I played with seemed to only have Swype as a virtual keyboard option, which I didn't care for. On my Droid 1, I use the HTC-IME keyboard for those few times I use the on screen keyboard.
You've obviously had more Android phones than me. I'm looking to buy a new phone for myself for Christmas, should have plenty of options, but I don't see Verizon offering me what I want.
Edit - Seems to be plenty of AOSP builds for the MT3G, a good sign once permanent root is achieved.

Bateluer said:
The MT4G I played with seemed to only have Swype as a virtual keyboard option, which I didn't care for. On my Droid 1, I use the HTC-IME keyboard for those few times I use the on screen keyboard.
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Press and hold on an text input box and select "Touch Input" instead of Swype.

This is definitely T-Mob's best production to date by far. After release of the G2 with the bulk of the physical kb & funky hinge I'm so happy to see a great, sleek, sexy, beast of an Andriod phone on T-Mob.
Bravo to T-Mob & HTC!
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coming from the vibrant, i love the quickness of the phone along with how sharp it displays text.
S-amoled is great and all, but its pentile arrangement of pixels renders jaggy-looking text.

I like everything about it except for the following:
1. Genius button. Wish it was software mappable. They shouldn't force us to use it. Just give me a regular search button and then make it an option of what it does when you hold down on it.
2. Speaker starts crackling on loud setting.
3. Wish it wasn't locked down so we could get easy root and swap roms. That goes for all the new phones, really.

Captivate obsolete?

With all of the new "4g" phones att is showing at ces will our beloved captivates become obsolete less than a year after introduction?
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donharden2002 said:
With all of the new "4g" phones att is showing at ces will our beloved captivates become obsolete less than a year after introduction?
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Not hardly. The Captivate is still a beast to be contended with - and we can overclock our Captivates past 1.2GHz as well. The screen size is something we can't contend with but honestly I had the 4.3 inch Evo and switched to the Captivate and much prefer the 4 inch screen to the 4.3 inch one. I have big hands and still had difficulty typing on the Evo. I have no such problems with the Captivate and I can only imagine how much worse it is on a 4.5 inch screen. In terms of software updates though, it is possible we won't see Gingerbread now and most likely have 0% chance of Honeycomb without a community port.

I really doubt it, considering there is no such thing as TRUE 4g yet.

4g!? I would kill for 3g! They dont have 3g wide spread enough. Good luck finding 4g. Maybe if you are in New York or LA. Dont count on it in flyover country.
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ademarne said:
I really doubt it, considering there is no such thing as TRUE 4g yet.
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You sure about that?
http://www.coated.com/itu-indirectly-confirms-t-mobile-as-largest-4g-network/

EtherealRemnant said:
You sure about that?
http://www.coated.com/itu-indirectly-confirms-t-mobile-as-largest-4g-network/
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That doesn't mean it is true 4G...they just include HSPA+ in the mix now. At&T is still working on a 4G network while having HSPA+ capability. And since we own the Captivate, the T-mobile network doesn't really matter.

EtherealRemnant said:
You sure about that?
http://www.coated.com/itu-indirectly-confirms-t-mobile-as-largest-4g-network/
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Well that is news to me, i guess i stand corrected. Thanks for the article.
In early december LifeHhacker posted an article saying the ITU was not including HSPA+ in 4G, which is what I was basing my statement on. That being said, HSPA+ speeds are not what the ITU outlined as 4G speeds. ITU claimed that 4G was anything above 100Mbps on a mobile data network and 1Gbps on wifi, which HSPA+ has not reached or even come close AFAIK.

Google is going to release a phone manufactured BY Google with 4" dual core 1ghz 32gb hd w/ 8mp camera flash front face camera featuring an entire new Google network for all mobile & pc platforms.
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ninjuh said:
Google is going to release a phone manufactured BY Google with 4" dual core 1ghz 32gb hd w/ 8mp camera flash front face camera featuring an entire new Google network for all mobile & pc platforms.
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And how 'bout a source for this?

sclRanger said:
4g!? I would kill for 3g! They dont have 3g wide spread enough. Good luck finding 4g. Maybe if you are in New York or LA. Dont count on it in flyover country.
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That's why I like living in DFW. Dallas is home to at&t. Good 3g everywhere. And cause it's their home, probably the best 4g area.
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Which one makes the Captivate obsolete? It's obsolete only if 4G is something you want to use daily and is available to you. 3G is plenty fast enough for whatever my uses are without destroying my battery life.
Samsung Infuse serves the 4.5 inch crowd. I would never want a phone that big and there are plenty people with my same attitude.
HTC Inspire is a rebranded HTC Desire HD. Pretty much a 2010 phone which is at most equivalent but universally seen as lower on the Android chart.
Motorola Atrix is the only one I would give it to that would make the Captivate obsolete on AT&T. Very good specs all around.
It would seem like only the Motorola phone is making the Captivate obsolete so it isn't as doom and gloom as it seems. Nothing wrong getting beat by a single better phone after 6 months.

boborone said:
That's why I like living in DFW. Dallas is home to at&t. Good 3g everywhere. And cause it's their home, probably the best 4g area.
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We get great 3G in Denver too usually but some towers went out in my neighborhood in the past few weeks and its really sucked. Like 100Kbps down and 1.7Mbps up because of the tower overload on the downstream. I don't care though, they waived my entire bill for the month because of it. We have 8 towers in a 5 mile radius and 4 of them have been down since late November and another one went down yesterday. In my place in Aurora, where Sprint barely had a signal, at&t was getting 5Mbps down and 1.8Mbps up. Ironically now that I canceled Sprint and moved, I get 3 bars of 4G in my new house. :/

boborone said:
That's why I like living in DFW. Dallas is home to at&t. Good 3g everywhere. And cause it's their home, probably the best 4g area.
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You really base your residency on at&t coverage?

no idea if this renders the captivate obsolete or not but this is off www.yahoo.com page http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20110105/bs_nf/76777 they make mention of Motorola's Atrix 4 from AT&T

For those grandfathered in for the 3g unlimited data, will you actually dismiss the 3g unlimited to pay extra on the 4g?
Will we be forced to go 4g if you get a 4g phone? Can we still stay with the 3g unlimited plan if opted?
I don't really think a lot of ppl really need 4g, yet... And I tether a lot on my laptop.

Xstop said:
I don't really think a lot of ppl really need 4g, yet... And I tether a lot on my laptop.
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@boborone
ok....but you see my point. Are you going to give up your unlimited data for capped data on 4g?
With that much usage, do you have any complaints about the 3g bandwith? I'm sure for the average user, 3g is fine.
BTW 3day usage? Really? ..and I thought I was a porn freak... j/k

no way.
still a beast hardware wise and have a beautiful screen.
Nice size....good combination of being really thin but still having nice heft and not feeling cheap. Some people have to have the shiniest newest toys but for most this phone should have no problem staying relevant into 2012 for those who have it on 2 year contract.
of the phones mentioned in the line up the atrix was the only one that turns my head with its dual core processor. Camera is secondary for me on a phone so no biggie but was disappointed to see it was 5mp and not 8mp (i believe the atrix is/was the olympus which was originally rumored to pack the 8mp). The other interesting thing with the Atrix is they seem to be on the ball with marketing and some very interesting accessories (particular docking stations).
The only hitch i see right now with the Atrix is that its listed to come with 2.2 installed. I could be wrong but my understanding is that Froyo can't fully utilize the dual core processor so it may not provide any substantial benefit until updated to gingerbread and we all know how updates can go so who knows what beastly competitors may be out there by the time it can fully utilize its dual processor potential.
The other two phones mentioned were pretty uninspiring.
As sterile as IOS has been i am definitely interested to see what they do in 2011. I think they will be more agressive in the face of some of the monsters being pitted against the iphone. At the least i think we see some nice storage options 64gb or possibly larger which even with the sterile ios would be enticing for those who have a lot of media they want to pack on their device. While i don't think it will have widgets.....I do think they will finally give in and have a better notification system and customizable lock screen.
There will be a flurry of great phones hit in 2011 and while they may make the captivate less inspiring or impressive to users it certainly won't be obsolete. (i am off contract with my captivate so it will take something pretty special to make my lock in a new 2 year). At the speed things are going no device is likely to be at the top of the list for very long before the next best thing arrives.

I'd pay an extra ten bucks like sprint does. My wife who doesn't tether has done 1200 mb so far this month. Lots of down time at our jobs.
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boborone said:
My wife who doesn't tether has done 1200 mb so far this month.
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lol, that's awesome. After I showed my girlfriend all the **** she can do on the phone, wow, but yeah...I hate facebook now...

Newcomer to LTE

So I been hearing about LTE and how fast it is and I couldn't believe it, so got me a thunderbolt, I came from iPhone 4 on Verizon and the speeds of data is ridiculous , I feel like I don't have to connected on WiFi anymore if 4G works, I also have a nexus s 4G and I wish the phone would come to Verizon with LTE or at least the nexus s, 2 things I saw that I don't like about the TB are the screen (resolution could be better and putting ambled right next to it make it look wash out ) and camera (I can't believe the iPhone 4 still kick ass in the department ) , other then that really like the pho.e
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A couple of things if you wanted an AMOLED display, why not go with the droid charge? You still can for a modest restocking fee. And I will have to disagree with you on the camera. My fiance has an iphone 4 and its deceiving. The higher pixel density on iphone make photos look like they are clearer than the TB. But when you put them on a TV or a computer monitor you will find that the TB photos are sharper and more saturated. Not hating just suggesting.

Sweeny Russ said:
A couple of things if you wanted an AMOLED display, why not go with the droid charge? You still can for a modest restocking fee. And I will have to disagree with you on the camera. My fiance has an iphone 4 and its deceiving. The higher pixel density on iphone make photos look like they are clearer than the TB. But when you put them on a TV or a computer monitor you will find that the TB photos are sharper and more saturated. Not hating just suggesting.
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Yeah probably I ma take a few shots and compare them , I like ambled but Sammy has disappointed me in the past, idk but I'm scared gps not working properly so I got a thunderbolt I know I will get used to the screen is just went you put it side by side you can tell a big difference but other then that I'm happy with the phone
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I like the OLED screens on samsung, but no way is it a deal breaker between having the thunderbolt and the charge. Better screen or not, it doesnt make up for the other shortcomings of the charge. If you want a samsung phone, I would try to wait it out until probably the end of the year for the Galaxy S2.

yareally said:
I like the OLED screens on samsung, but no way is it a deal breaker between having the thunderbolt and the charge. Better screen or not, it doesnt make up for the other shortcomings of the charge. If you want a samsung phone, I would try to wait it out until probably the end of the year for the Galaxy S2.
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Ha ha no I don't want a Samsung phones, there phone builds feel cheap besides amoled and GPS is a hit or miss in various phones, I was just saying a better screen could have make this phone a phone of year ha ha but I like it a lot so I'm sticking with it
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jgalan14 said:
Ha ha no I don't want a Samsung phones, there phone builds feel cheap besides amoled and GPS is a hit or miss in various phones, I was just saying a better screen could have make this phone a phone of year ha ha but I like it a lot so I'm sticking with it
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Samsung for at least the near future, seems to be hoarding their OLED screens for only their phones, which sucks. I've heard rumors of an LTE Nexus S phone in the works (since there's already a CDMA one on sprint), but I have no idea which carrier will get it (since att and sprint are rolling out LTE very soon). Just noticed your signature says sent from a Nexus S. You probably knew it was built by samsung I assume, though obviously it followed standards set by google so it wasnt the typical samsung phone.

yareally said:
Samsung for at least the near future, seems to be hoarding their OLED screens for only their phones, which sucks. I've heard rumors of an LTE Nexus S phone in the works (since there's already a CDMA one on sprint), but I have no idea which carrier will get it (since att and sprint are rolling out LTE very soon). Just noticed your signature says sent from a Nexus S. You probably knew it was built by samsung I assume, though obviously it followed standards set by google so it wasnt the typical samsung phone.
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Well yeah I got a nexus s and TB, to make the switch from sprint to Verizon , nexus s is a good phone and the OS is controlled by Google , Samsung just gave them the HW they need it for it , and nexus s have problems sometimes with gps but not really as big as some other Sammy phones, and I wanted to get a nexus s with LTE but I don't think that's happening anytime soon so I think the thunderbolt is a better choice
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Look at this crazy speeds, that's like my home network speeds
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I've had it hit somewhere around 30mbps if I'm near a tower and conditions are right, but on average, it's somewhere between 15-20mbps for me.

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Look at this crazy speeds, that's like my home network speeds
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Use the website not the app. Should be getting anywhere from 18-22 down

I am excited to receive my Thunderbolt, hopefully tomorrow (Wed).
I was waiting for LTE to be delivered. But, I was also waiting to compare the HTC Sensation on TMobile before making a choice.
Overall costs and VZW's unlimited 4G were the deciding factor.
I had a Samsung Captivate on AT&T and was severely underwhelmed. the screen was nice, and I liked the carbon-look aliminum body. But the GPS issues, AT&T craptastic voice quality and data network dropouts in my area made me hand it back in only three weeks.
MY GF has an iPhone 4, and had 3 and 3GS before that. The camera on my old Nokia 5800 is only 3.2MP and takes much clearer pictures than her iPhone 4. She asks me to take pix with my non-data phone just because hers is pixellated beyond belief. And it is slow to acquire lock and take the picture.
I really hope to love the TBolt.

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Use the website not the app. Should be getting anywhere from 18-22 down
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Which website , speedtest.net sent me to the market app
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jgalan14 said:
Which website , speedtest.net sent me to the market app
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use speakeasy

Ok so here is my story first we were with att they sucked balls so we payed cancellation fee and moved to verizon and we got three lg revolutions we returned all three because the screen colors are nasty the screen looks like its made of yellow pixels and the battery and camera were just way to ****y. So next we got droid charges this is **** like the screen is nice but it scratches in a day ,the phone overheates after 5 minutes of use ( not overclocked) and would lose gps fast ,and it felt like a toy no kidding. So next we got thunderbolts had it for a week and love it No problems the screen is not as good but at least it dont scratch as fast and i like the thunderbolt because it has so much roms not like the lg where they have no roms or the charge where they have only debloated roms **** that ,Thunderbolt is king .
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At&t won't have a comparable lte network until 2013 and by then verizons will be farther ahead
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This I'd what I got
I ma stick with Verizon
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Ok so here is my story first we were with att they sucked balls so we payed cancellation fee and moved to verizon and we got three lg revolutions we returned all three because the screen colors are nasty the screen looks like its made of yellow pixels and the battery and camera were just way to ****y. So next we got droid charges this is **** like the screen is nice but it scratches in a day ,the phone overheates after 5 minutes of use ( not overclocked) and would lose gps fast ,and it felt like a toy no kidding. So next we got thunderbolts had it for a week and love it No problems the screen is not as good but at least it dont scratch as fast and i like the thunderbolt because it has so much roms not like the lg where they have no roms or the charge where they have only debloated roms **** that ,Thunderbolt is king .
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Yeah I was looking a development section and it reminds me of my og EVO ,
Listening to Google music is so.nice since is like not loading time
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Yup, nice having a faster connection on my phone than I do at home!

It's safe to say by now Tegra2 CPU owns Snapdragon 1.2

I have owned the G2X & Sensation also Atrix My sensation is by far the best looking device ever now before the Sensation got S-off I would find myself saying boy you just wait until we get roms this thing will fly like my g2x its funny boy was I wrong. I'm on the Senseless v1.2 Custom kernel and the Sensation is very fast now but still not on my g2x speed so I think its safe to say the Tegra2 is pretty much a better faster CPU period now I'm hoping and praying the upcoming roms and kernels prove me and US all wrong but as of now custom roms and s-off had done nothing to bring out this beast my Ayrix is now hitting 3700 quadrants. Time well let us know
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If you're using quadrant as evidence to prove that Tegra 2 is actually faster, you're standing on thin ice. Quadrant can easily be skewed with a few modifications.

I'm using the stick ROM with ADW EX and my Sensations UI is as fast as my G2X. I can also say that my Sensation has always been faster at opening and interacting with apps such as Google Maps which loads a lot faster on my Sensation. When it cones to the web browser there both eveb in terms of loading pages but my Sensation scrolls smoother. I actually like the looks of the G2X better but I mainly use the Sensation due to it loading and interacting with apps faster.
Just for information, my G2X is bug free.
Another piece of information. I have seen a difference with speed in the 4 Sensations I've used. I really don't know what it is but the second one I had was slow as hell. You must have a bad one because the Sensation should load stuff faster than the G2X.
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Why are there dozens of posts like this everyday?
Does it matter? Does seeing another phone with more powerful SoC immediately kill the battery of yours? Does having a faster SoC get you laid? Why does Quadrant matter? Does your phone require you to finish a Quadrant run before you can answer your phone everytime it rings? Because Quadrant is hardly a benchmark. Does your phone run slower than the G1? Does the Atrix run so much faster than the Sensation that makes it feels like a Razor? If yes, why bother, just dump the Sensation and use the Atrix. If no, why bother, since both phones are fast enough for everything a normal human would do on a phone for now.
Back to your question. No. First of all, Tegra 2 is not a CPU. It's a system on a chip (SoC). The processor cores in Tegra 2 are Cortex A9, and yes, they are more advance than the Scorpion cores in the Snapdragon, which falls roughly between Cortex A8 and A9. So CPU raw power alone, the Tegra 2 should be faster except in a few situations, because Scorpion's strength is floating point calculation and the Cortex A9 in Tegra 2 (but not necessarily other Cortex A9 SoC) lacks the NEON instruction sets.

I'd also like to add that you are comparing our performance to devices that have had more time for development and improvements. Give it time. The sensation devs will do their thing and although they might not be able to close the gap completely, I have faith that they will get us close.
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well the g2x is stockish android gingerbread which is fast.
The sensation has a ton of bloat with sense 3.0
When CM7 is optimized, the sensation will edge out the g2x.
Compare apples to apples br0.

Wait for cm7, sense is still on all roms.
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chisleu said:
well the g2x is stockish android gingerbread which is fast.
The sensation has a ton of bloat with sense 3.0
When CM7 is optimized, the sensation will edge out the g2x.
Compare apples to apples br0.
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No it won't. The a9 is just a better architecture. More cache, shorter pipeline, more efficient memory usage etc. If you overclock the scorpion 25% or so vs a9 it might be able to catch up. Amd and Intel had done research and they found that it doesn't make sense to use asynchronous cores as in most real world cases it didn't yield better battery life. They found it was better to use power gating to save power. Unfortunately qualcomm is company that makes majority of its net income from 20 year old patents so it is no surprise they made questionable decisions. They sunk all this money into the scorpion architecture and they have to use it as long as they did due to sunk costs. However Nvidia screwed up to not having 1080hp decoder or neon. At least I thought the adreno 220 would be a beast, but It doesn't seem to be much better than the 2 year old overclocked sgx540 on omap4430.
However I didn't buy the sensation just because of its SOC, but it is just a solid phone in terms on construction and you know xda will support it, and it isn't slow either. I wish HTC would switch to a better soc, but they are tied with qualcomm at the hip.

First off I own both phones... My wife's G2x is faster, but it's running stock android. Every phone I've ever owned running Sense is slower than stock Android...
It's not really comparable until we have a stock build of android running on the Sensation. Then compare.

magic_man said:
However I didn't buy the sensation just because of its SOC, but it is just a solid phone in terms on construction and you know xda will support it, and it isn't slow either. I wish HTC would switch to a better soc, but they are tied with qualcomm at the hip.
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The next generation of Qualcomm CPUs are coming soon and those will move from Scorpion to Krait. The Krait is based off of the A15 architecture from what I've read.

Heh, my Samsung Galaxy S II is better than your Sensation, G2x, or Atrix. Got Quadrant scores of 4k. Run Quadrant 3 times to see accurate score. Oh yeah I underclocked it too to 1GHZ. You won't find another fine device like this phone. Running on Revolution rom with bloatware removed.
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kotaro_14 said:
Heh, my Samsung Galaxy S II is better than your Sensation, G2x, or Atrix. Got Quadrant scores of 4k. Run Quadrant 3 times to see accurate score. Oh yeah I underclocked it too to 1GHZ. You won't find another fine device like this phone. Running on Revolution rom with bloatware removed.
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Epic troll?

Firstly, OP's English is terrible. No offence, but I had to put into notepad and punctuate it, just to understand what you were saying.
Secondly: the Sensation is on Sense, which definitely slows this phone done. I'd go as far as saying CM7 will be anything up to 2x as fast as Sense is.

Vandam500 said:
Epic troll?
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More likely looking for an ego boost because his phone gets better results on a benchmarking tool that's severely outdated.

Dude, here is a sensible test.
1:- install a vanilla ROM on all phones
2:- get all devices to use the same resolution
3:- get a sensible graphics test app like nenamark 2
4:- test the devices and check the score.
This is the only way u will have to test.which phone is better or which processor is better
Cheers
VIPER

I played my friend's Atrix 4G,that screen,that ui,haha,i can't help to laugh

Half the people on these forums must be those who buy guys cars based solely on HP figures /rolleyes

twomix9900 said:
Half the people on these forums must be those who buy guys cars based solely on HP figures /rolleyes
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LOL I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm on a VW forum (hence the avatar), and we had this SRT-4 owner try to troll us. We were all like "you can keep your 400 whp champ, we like our interiors lol". As to this thread, I don't think it's fair to say that either "owns" the other. They are pretty darn even.

aNYthing24 said:
More likely looking for an ego boost because his phone gets better results on a benchmarking tool that's severely outdated.
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Meh... Troll... Lol...
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The big Infuse 4G comparison thread

Hey folks.
I've seen several comparison threads on the Infuse around here. Although it's nice to compare the Infuse with other (newer) devices out there, a thread can derail very quickly or become a flame-fest.
That's why I thought of starting this comparison thread, which can be stickied and will be the ONLY comparison thread in General. Others will be closed.
Every pro and cons may be discussed, as long as we watch our language and play nice.
Discussion may start....
Now.

I'll start, cons:
NEED MOAR CORES!!!
...and more RAM... and a better GPS.
Pros:
Everything else!
Who agrees?

i completely disagree, batterylife is so-so as it is with the stock firmware, what would it be with another core to support? ram is not an issue if it is managed correctly, more ram just gives app developers an excuse to get lazy. try the 99tweaks mod in dev section and ignore the reported free ram, it is insignificant information.
gps, well we know samsung sux at that :/ it is wonky and has worse reception than my captivate (not to say it works worse, that would be a lie but my captivate can loc in places that my infuse can't it just takes longer and tracks like **** if agps is enabled)
needs 1080p recording, i think the gpu is marginal for that ability but i think if they had real talent in their software department it could be "possible" though i know it will never happen.

You also have to consider majority over minority. A large amount of people that pick up these phones don't know what "rooting" or flashing firmwares and all that can do. The average Joe will just minimize the app and keep going. They want to have a phone that works out the box without a need to jump through hoops.
Adding more to something already good is never a bad thing. Basically it would be a SGSII with a bigger screen, and last I checked it's probably one of the most popular phones on the market to this date.

Yall thinks it worth giving up the Infuse for the Nexus Prime when it hits the market in a few months??
im thinking of getting it, and giving the infuse to my mom - she needs the big screen..lol

the2rrell said:
Yall thinks it worth giving up the Infuse for the Nexus Prime when it hits the market in a few months??
im thinking of getting it, and giving the infuse to my mom - she needs the big screen..lol
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all up to you buddy. i think there is too much emphasis on hardware, yeah hardware is cool and benchmarks are cool but the infuse has raw capabilities that some tegra powered phones dont have in video playback.. like i said earlier there isnt much the phone can't do. but obviously the infuse is near the bottom of the barrel when it comes to 2011 phones as far as hardware goes. i would say pick up the next nexus and see if it tickles you a certain way, you will be assured that it will have the best firmware at any givven time. if the nexus doesnt do it for you then return it.

nascasho said:
I'll start, cons:
NEED MOAR CORES!!!
...and more RAM... and a better GPS.
Pros:
Everything else!
Who agrees?
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Hm...I disagree. My phone has been able to manage everything well with a single core, and RAM has never been an issue. (Maybe on stock, but then again, I flashed a ROM as soon as I got it so yeah)
And I don't get what the problem with GPS is. Maybe I live in a place where Sammy is er...I have no idea what to say but yeah. I live in New Jersey and I haven't had a GPS issue so far...

Dani897 said:
all up to you buddy. i think there is too much emphasis on hardware, yeah hardware is cool and benchmarks are cool but the infuse has raw capabilities that some tegra powered phones dont have in video playback.. like i said earlier there isnt much the phone can't do. but obviously the infuse is near the bottom of the barrel when it comes to 2011 phones as far as hardware goes. i would say pick up the next nexus and see if it tickles you a certain way, you will be assured that it will have the best firmware at any givven time. if the nexus doesnt do it for you then return it.
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yea, wont really know till i pick it up. Thats True.

It's crazy. I like some things about my infuse, I like some things about my thrill
I keep swapping back and forth between the two.
I no longer have any interest in the SGS2....but I do look forward to seeing what ATT does with LTE around Christmas

I have a HTC Sensation and an Infuse 4g and believe me battery consumption on Dual Core Sensation is annoying and i throw it away. Infuse has good battery life and does everything with a single core. My next phone will probably be a Galaxy Note depending on battery.

here is Infuse with 4.5 and galaxy S2 with 4.27" (<--look like 4 inches!").
phone size is only a little bigger, but your eyes will notice the HUGE screen different! if it' not 4.5, i dont want it!
update: try to look at each screen for 5 seconds, then you will see the HUGE screen different!
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Wait, you have both? Does the dual core and the extra 512megs of RAM make a difference?

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Wait, you have both? Does the dual core and the extra 512megs of RAM make a difference?
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i only noticed the galaxy S2 (dual core) boots up and loads webpages with flashes faster. other than that, i dont noticed that much different since i overclocked my infuse to 1.6Gzh with bedwa kernel.

Now when it comes to battery life on the GSII based on your normal use, would you say it was worse or same/similar?
Reason I'm asking is because I never really messed with a dual core android unit... yet, but was curious what real improvements they bring other than benchmarks.
I liked running my Infuse at 1.6Ghz, but could never find the right voltage to keep it going while maintaining a great battery life.
Btw, thanks for the input, kinda changed my perspective on DC phones a little.

nascasho said:
Now when it comes to battery life on the GSII based on your normal use, would you say it was worse or same/similar?
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battery life is about the same on both phones, after 8 hours at work,
I have about 20% battery left. I mostly surf the web while on break and lunchtime.
Now I underclocked the Infuse to 800mzh during work hours, after 8 hours I have about 40% left.

The Infuse is the first smartphone I've owned, I can only compare to other phones I've played with for a short time. I run the Infused 2.1.0 with 1.6 Infusion 1.1 kernel, and my Infuse is faster than many others. The battery life is great, I'm on my phone for about 4-5 hours talk time, and heavily use web, music and the occasional game. I can get a day and a half worth out of the battery before charging. If I dont use those, sometimes I can go 3 days. I dont see much difference with dual cores. If the phone was ran stock, yes, you can tell noticeable difference. I do wish it could record in 1080, but thats not that big of a deal. Never had a problem with GPS, or anything else I can think of.
Infused 2.1.0
Infusion GB Kernel 1.1
Is that an Infuse in my pocket
or am I just happy to see you?

Does anyone know of any place where you can actually use NFC?

Infuse
I have to say after being on my first Android Phone making the jump from WinMo to my Cappy and learning about Roms, tweaking and modding I was excited to make the next jump to the next Android phone. I had 30 days after purchase that I was going to use the Infuse and then make the transition to the SGSII for the bump in power and performance but sacrificing the minor screen downsizing. But after experiencing and reading many users inputs and advice I decided to hang on to the Infuse. I am finding the power is perfect for what I want and need (Mostly email, Text and web) I hardly use the GPS or maps (Currently Frozen in TIBU at the moment) and battery life is average or comparable to all others I have read about. I found that most user that get extraordinary long battery life is due to no SIM and WiFi only use, as I have done and got two days out of my battery before at the sacrifice of connectivity availability. But overall I think the infuse is comparable if not better phone than most and I would like to see more development and activity for this device even though its not the "Most Popular" phone on the block at the moment.

I just saw the sgs2 att comercial and gotta say it looks quite sexy. but ill wait and see things like Rom compatibility with the international version and final hardware specs. there were rumors that Samsung would use tegra2 chips in some markets. not really sure about that but hope that we get the Orion chip.
it may be better to wait for the galaxy s 3 or whatever comes next but the att gs2 does look good.

NeoS2007 said:
Hey folks.
I've seen several comparison threads on the Infuse around here. Although it's nice to compare the Infuse with other (newer) devices out there, a thread can derail very quickly or become a flame-fest.
That's why I thought of starting this comparison thread, which can be stickied and will be the ONLY comparison thread in General. Others will be closed.
Every pro and cons may be discussed, as long as we watch our language and play nice.
Discussion may start....
Now.
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Thank you Neo!!!!
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